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Rhodium in USA?

Is Touch Pro 2 / Rhodium available in USA? or Will it be available soon??
If yes, which service provider / region?
Thanks Ahead

ash3012 said:
Is Touch Pro 2 / Rhodium available in USA? or Will it be available soon??
If yes, which service provider / region?
Thanks Ahead
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yep should be available in the US officially june/july latest august! pretty sure that t-mobile will one of the front runners with it as the mda vario v as its called in uk is due for release soon. dont think you have long to wait

Is the Sprint version not rumored to be launching in mid June (i really want it to be) ?

LordLugard said:
Is the Sprint version not rumored to be launching in mid June (i really want it to be) ?
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The ATT version was rumored to have launched a couple of weeks ago (as per the ancient-looking leaked ATT docs)
Hopefully they'll all be out soon.

I don't understand why the companies can't tell us what phones and when they are going to come out.
I actually need this device for my work. I know I could get a touch 1, but with the 2 "rumored" to be out really soon, I figure I should wait. I don't have a problem waiting, but I would like some hard dates from these companies so I can actually plan and know.
Funny thing is, I'm with Tmobile right now, but their 3G is way too limited where I live now. Sprint, Verizon, and ATT are much better with their advertised 3G in my area. I have no probs switching, but who is gonna get it?
If this was just waiting for a toy, I could care less. But it will make my work at least 10 times more efficient with the use of all the features of this device.
Does anyone know a way to get a rock solid answer from these companies?

Baffler said:
I don't understand why the companies can't tell us what phones and when they are going to come out.
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Does anyone know a way to get a rock solid answer from these companies?
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They get around to it when they get around to it, but there is an actual reason why it seems to take so long.
Although people like us knew about the Touch Pro2 and its design and specs very early on, and even though some Europeans are already using it, the truth is it still flies under the radar for the average consumer. The carriers and manufacturers like this, because they still have stock of the original Touch Pro, and if everyone knew the Touch Pro2's release was imminent, no one would finish buying up the Touch Pro 1s (IMO, there's still a segment that would want the TP1 over the TP2, but I think most carriers disagree with me and that's what really matters on a decision to announce and give solid dates) because they, like you, would wait for the TP2.
This isn't idle speculation on my part, the impulse to conceal the next model is a well-established business practice based on knowledge of the Osborne effect (although the origins may be semi-mythical, the effect does happen under the right circumstances).
Besides this, launching a device successfully is complicated. Announce a date and then have to delay it, then everyone gets pissed and the device/carrier gets a worse rep than if they don't announce but still end up with the same launch date. There's really very little upside to getting precise information out there as early as possible.

fortunz said:
Although people like us knew about the Touch Pro2 and its design and specs very early on, and even though some Europeans are already using it, the truth is it still flies under the radar for the average consumer. The carriers and manufacturers like this, because they still have stock of the original Touch Pro, and if everyone knew the Touch Pro2's release was imminent, no one would finish buying up the Touch Pro 1s (IMO, there's still a segment that would want the TP1 over the TP2, but I think most carriers disagree with me and that's what really matters on a decision to announce and give solid dates) because they, like you, would wait for the TP2.
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So true. A coworker of mine just bought the FUZE (TP1) because he had no idea that the TP2 was coming to AT&T (or even existed for that matter).
P.S. He's was PISSED when I told him!

Hamburg said:
So true. A coworker of mine just bought the FUZE (TP1) because he had no idea that the TP2 was coming to AT&T (or even existed for that matter).
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Heck, most of the AT&T store sales crew don't even know it's coming until it appears on their inventory one day! They are very

Thanks friends !
Its true that these service providers hide the arrival details of new models. But the fact that frustrates me more is these buggers change names of models - like Rhodium is called by at least 4 other names including Rhodium, MDA Vario V etc. Is it must to create confusion among consumers?
Why can't there be a single name for a product (or 2 names at the most - one Project name - like Rhodium and other Trade Name - like Touch Pro 2)??

Welcome to Product Marketing at its best

http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=24379
check out this site for US guys. says expected june 10th for generic model

shingers5 said:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=24379
check out this site for US guys. says expected june 10th for generic model
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That's still only EDGE-functional though, correct?

jonnyp4l said:
That's still only EDGE-functional though, correct?
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ya its a euro model. no confirmed announcements on US variant yet! hope ya guys get it for your region to enjoy the full benefits of this amazing handset! it is that good. can't wait to use wm6.5 on it

fortunz said:
They get around to it when they get around to it, but there is an actual reason why it seems to take so long.
Although people like us knew about the Touch Pro2 and its design and specs very early on, and even though some Europeans are already using it, the truth is it still flies under the radar for the average consumer. The carriers and manufacturers like this, because they still have stock of the original Touch Pro, and if everyone knew the Touch Pro2's release was imminent, no one would finish buying up the Touch Pro 1s (IMO, there's still a segment that would want the TP1 over the TP2, but I think most carriers disagree with me and that's what really matters on a decision to announce and give solid dates) because they, like you, would wait for the TP2.
This isn't idle speculation on my part, the impulse to conceal the next model is a well-established business practice based on knowledge of the Osborne effect (although the origins may be semi-mythical, the effect does happen under the right circumstances).
Besides this, launching a device successfully is complicated. Announce a date and then have to delay it, then everyone gets pissed and the device/carrier gets a worse rep than if they don't announce but still end up with the same launch date. There's really very little upside to getting precise information out there as early as possible.
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A very logical response....D*mmit!!
Guess I'm gonna have to be patient and hope for sooner rather than later. If there ever was a time for an insider to come out with some info.....

shingers5 said:
ya its a euro model. no confirmed announcements on US variant yet! hope ya guys get it for your region to enjoy the full benefits of this amazing handset! it is that good. can't wait to use wm6.5 on it
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I'm not sure this wouldn't fall under the Geneva Convention's guidelines of torture.

What I am really afraid ...

Windows Phone 7 Series ... phone ... will NOT be released on the same time for the whole world.
Meaning, it will be first released in the United States .... Just like Zune
Meaning, for the rest of the world, we will have to wait longer (3 months? 6 months? 1 year? more?) ...
To anyone who is attending MWC ... Can you ask this to Microsoft? Or gather any info link to an answer / confirmation? ...

gogol said:
Windows Phone 7 Series ... phone ... will NOT be released on the same time for the whole world.
Meaning, it will be first released in the United States .... Just like Zune
Meaning, for the rest of the world, we will have to wait longer (3 months? 6 months? 1 year? more?) ...
To anyone who is attending MWC ... Can you ask this to Microsoft? Or gather any info link to an answer / confirmation? ...
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Microsoft said Christmas 2010. They released WinMo 6.5, a minor release, everywhere worldwide in October 2009. There's no reeason to think they wouldn't release this major new 7 version worldwide.

Yep, plus this is not something you get on CD or DVD, you get it on your phone so they release it to all manafactureres at once. it's up to the manafacturer to sell @ this location or not

HTC releases all their new phones to the world first and six months later we get them here in the US,
It is only right when a US company releases something " we " should get it first for a change

I don't know, but I do remember an HTC rep saying that. That would be weird though, because HTC almost always releases their new phones in every country but the US first (very, very annoying).

Fdo35 said:
I don't know, but I do remember an HTC rep saying that. That would be weird though, because HTC almost always releases their new phones in every country but the US first (very, very annoying).
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Don't feel to bad, Canadians sometimes don't even get the Device at all....

Australia is pretty bad in getting new devices as well... Oh wells, a trip to Hong Kong should suffice.

You should feel lucky; Can u imagine living here in Brazil, paying a high import tax which makes a simple U$ 600 gadget become as expensive as U$ 1200.
HTC lauched here its "latest" gadget: the new HTC Diamond. (It makes me laught)
Nothing like a trip vacation to get everything in US or Europe.

Orange UK Froyo!!!!!

Sim only customers might already have this.
Contract customers to get notification in the next 2 weeks.
Sorry if its a repost but I'm too excited to search the forum.

From what source have you heard this.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

hi,
Don't want to be rude, but without source this post is useless.

Judge584 said:
hi,
Don't want to be rude, but without source this post is useless.
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+1
plus I got no orange ROM anymore

not beening funny here but why is it,that every day someone comes out with a new rumour, fact unbranded desire will get there updates well before branded handsets, and iam looking at least a 3 week wait if iam lucky.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/34139/htc-froyo-update-delays-explained
read that guys
that was posted 18 hours ago so from the sounds of it we aint gonna get 2.2 officially for a while.

Yup, but it also sais
Indeed, he suggests that the updates are going quicker than could be expected: "I don’t think you’re going to see that really long six month, seven month lag, like you saw in the updates from 1.5 to 2.1, simply because it’s a less severe change.
"Switching from 2.1 to 2.2, they made a lot of tweaks, but they didn’t make any gigantic changes, so it should be a much swifter process".
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Nekromantik said:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/34139/htc-froyo-update-delays-explained
read that guys
that was posted 18 hours ago so from the sounds of it we aint gonna get 2.2 officially for a while.
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Site's keep selectively quoting this interview it's annoying.
He specifically stated this as well:
"the updates are going quicker than could be expected: "I don’t think you’re going to see that really long six month, seven month lag, like you saw in the updates from 1.5 to 2.1, simply because it’s a less severe change."
EDIT// Ah you beat me.

he also said before christmas so could take them as long as November.

I was checking about 3g signal outage and asked the call centre person on the off chance.
Lady on the phone said I shall receive a text in the next 2 weeks.
So my source is an Official orange representative in the phone function department
I got her to confirm that I was talking about the 2.2 release for desire.
Still could be b/s but if that's the case I was out and out lied to.
I wasn't hassling her so it wasn't a lie to shut me up. I posed the question at the end of a pleasant conversation about signal outages.

olly you cant believe all that you hear from customer service folks, memory serves me well, dident one customer service say we will have it by the 23rd of june? that turned out to be b/s , ive not been a andriod owner that long but one thing ive learnt is always take what you read on here with a pinch of salt.

$5 says the cs rep thought you were talking about the 2.1 u1 update...
I am actually impressed with the total lack of interest many of the cs departments I´ve had contact with actually has for the products they support. Most of the cs departments actually know less than the average techsavvy customer.
-KJ

david632 said:
olly you cant believe all that you hear from customer service folks, memory serves me well, dident one customer service say we will have it by the 23rd of june? that turned out to be b/s , ive not been a andriod owner that long but one thing ive learnt is always take what you read on here with a pinch of salt.
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I can see no reason for her to have lied
If I was gobbing off saying that orange a sh*t and that they take ages to release updated roms, then fair enough. Fob me off with a lie to make me go away.
but I wasn't and this was a zero stress call.
the 23rd june one said there is 'an' update coming this time I have been categorically told about a 2.2 update for desire.
The other bit of info I forgot to pass on was that I was told that this will be a two part update.

How could Orange possibly have a timeframe in place when HTC hasn't even finished the Generic ROM?

neoKushan said:
How could Orange possibly have a timeframe in place when HTC hasn't even finished the Generic ROM?
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Well the only way we can find out if this is true or false is to wait 2 weeks
So if there's nothing by the 21st of July then she lied, but if there is then happy days

who would want a orange branded ROM anyways ha ha

Yeah is true no link no truth to the story.... orange need to put it on there site or something

Whether it's true or not, you'll get a Froyo + Sense rom whenever you get it. I guess it's fun to speculate, but meh

I can say 100% and dont doubt me, I have my sources, that this is very inacurate, as of yet Orange have no word on a froyo update, HTC has not published anything publically or on a coporate level.

Might text my mate who's a manager at one of the Orange call centers - see what he says...

Nodo - due out today or not?

Plenty of people had been postulating that Nodo would be released today, but I do vaguely recall seeing an article on Monday saying it would be out "next week".
Anyone got any ideas?

I'm still waiting/looking for my first update. I guess I don't need it if the new one comes out considering all previous patches are supposed to be rolled into it.

The rumors have all been for today, with the exception of one that said yesterday was the day. The only official word from MS has been "first two weeks of March," which means we still have 6 more days to wait until they end up being made into liars.

No specific date set yet officially. My advice is don't get excited until Microsoft officially announces it or people start getting it. Whichever comes first. I just can't see it coming out without an officially announcement first.

Let us hope for the sanity of some that it comes out today. What ever happened to patience is a virtue?

The official word was "early March" so it could be anytime between today and next week. No one really knows, the March 8th date was a rumour.

Given that device-specific 7389 ROMs have started to appear (HTC Mozart and Trophy at least) I get the feeling that something is imminent. Just how imminent is, of course, another matter....

I got the update thing today, dunno if it pre NoDo or NoDo, don't have any data cables at school :/

brondum said:
I got the update thing today, dunno if it pre NoDo or NoDo, don't have any data cables at school :/
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which phone do u have? which carrier ?

You guys need to all calm down ! Unless you can post (from a certified Microsoft site) that they have said the update is on so and so date ,then just chill, this reminds me of the oil situation in the US with speculators , the more intense the debate the higher the prices get and of course none of them have a clue whats really going on !
The update will come , does it not perform well without it , copy/paste is that the biggest complaint ? have it on my iphone and have never used it , custom ringtones, if your on this forum , obviously you know (or should know) how to create custom ringtones by now!
This forum gives you all the information needed for any number of phones and disciplines , read /learn and move on!

FishFaceMcGee said:
The rumors have all been for today, with the exception of one that said yesterday was the day. The only official word from MS has been "first two weeks of March," which means we still have 6 more days to wait until they end up being made into liars.
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hahaha LMAO

I want the update for bug fixes and application loading speed improvements..
Honestly don't care about copy/paste..
Hopefully it comes soon.
it would suck for the HTC 7 Pro on sprint to be released on March 20th and leave the rest of us stuck without the update.

TOA Duck said:
hahaha LMAO
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LMAO what?

Vintage144 said:
You guys need to all calm down ! Unless you can post (from a certified Microsoft site) that they have said the update is on so and so date ,then just chill, this reminds me of the oil situation in the US with speculators , the more intense the debate the higher the prices get and of course none of them have a clue whats really going on !
The update will come , does it not perform well without it , copy/paste is that the biggest complaint ? have it on my iphone and have never used it , custom ringtones, if your on this forum , obviously you know (or should know) how to create custom ringtones by now!
This forum gives you all the information needed for any number of phones and disciplines , read /learn and move on!
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LMAO X2
Finally told us someone what we need :-D
And if we do not feel that we have this "need" than what?
You will come over and bomb aour country?

Still nothing here with Focus on At&t as of 10:17am EST

Using the HTC Euro update in the dev forum, gold card installed to O2 HD7 in UK, and first impressions are there are slight improvements overall, few extra animations and email flagging (unless i messed that before), copy & paste works well, haven't noticed that apps load any quicker.
More an overall polish than anything revolutionary - that'll come october!

Microsoft, if they're smart, should be aware of the March 8 rumour, and should publicly address it. "not true", "sort of true", "we're not sure". Even a "we're not sure when" would satisfy people, like myself. It at least would show they've got their finger on the pulse and have half a clue of what's going on.
And just like above, I want it for performance upgrades, I couldn't care less about copy/paste.

FishFaceMcGee said:
LMAO what?
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LMAO about your statement about them lieing
again
the red prt in the quote

Okay now tell me if this is a lie:
"I will be home by 5." You leave work at the same time you normally do but there is an accident on your regular route. You get home at 5:27. Do you consider yourself a liar? Probably not.
Let us not get on Holy. A big problem I have with humanity on the net is we are all overly critical towards others because we are just a screen name.
Apple claimed there was no Death Grip and in order to throw smoke and mirrors at the loyal customers they announced at the beginning of July 2010 that they would be shipping white iPhone 4s at the end of July. Now that is a bold-faced lie. And even bolder since it happened during a damage-control P.R. spectacle.
So they said they would have an update in February and it is March. Your phone is not unuseable no matter what picture you try to paint. We sometimes get places late. We sometimes finish our work late.
STS (stop the stupidity)

nicksti said:
Okay now tell me if this is a lie:
"I will be home by 5." You leave work at the same time you normally do but there is an accident on your regular route. You get home at 5:27. Do you consider yourself a liar? Probably not.
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Oh gosh...did MS have a road accident?

what's the deal with Google/Samsung?

[NOTE] this is in regards to the US release
now that the other 2 "competitors" are out on shelves(RAZR & Rezound), Google/Samsung have no reason to continue to keep us in the dark about the actual release date. sure, we've heard about stores getting accessories now & verizon employees undergoing training on the phone.. but still.. what the heck. obviously they know the phone's going to sell well, so....
p.s. the whole possibility of it coming out on 'Black Friday' wouldn't look good for them considering it's THE day of deals so we'd expect it to be like 1/2 off that day or something.
thoughts?

i demand things now like a spoiled child! </sarcasm>

maybe they have problems with the delivery of the components and dont know if they can afford to bring it out globally on one exact date or something. and they surely dont want to delay a release-date.

appears they can't/won't commit to one either.
eric b

When you put together moneyhats(verizon) plus first generation hardware (LTE) and something so volatile (android) you get a huge mess.

Every day I dont hear anything about this phone it makes me want it less and less since there are other phones right now that are on gingerbread that will most likely get the upgrade to ICS in the future.

They'll release it when its ready. You think they would prefer releasing it before its ready then get 1000's of complaints from people that things are broken?
Google/Samsung have no reason to continue to keep us in the dark about the actual release date.
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Actually, they do. They can wait and tell us whenever they choose. We're not entitled to receive any info from them prior to release.
Chill out. You'll get the phone soon enough. Geez.

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They'll release it when its ready. You think they would prefer releasing it before its ready then get 1000's of complaints from people that things are broken?
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They already have a release date for UK and Canada, plus a few other places, so it's READY! It's not so much that we want it today (that would be nice). We just want a freaking DATE! And I don't care about the VZW LTE model, make them wait if it's not ready. HSPA+ is ready to go!

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They already have a release date for UK and Canada, plus a few other places, so it's READY! It's not so much that we want it today (that would be nice). We just want a freaking DATE! And I don't care about the VZW LTE model, make them wait if it's not ready. HSPA+ is ready to go!
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There is a release date for Canada? What day is it?

upyouratrix said:
They already have a release date for UK and Canada, plus a few other places, so it's READY! It's not so much that we want it today (that would be nice). We just want a freaking DATE! And I don't care about the VZW LTE model, make them wait if it's not ready. HSPA+ is ready to go!
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Well its pretty clear that the release of the HSPA+ version to the US has something to do with the VZW model, whether it's Verizon having an exclusivity, or Google not wanting to release until Verizon has released as part of a contractual obligation, or something to that effect.
Its not wild to assume the VZW model is slightly behind in development from the HSPA+ version.
Look, I don't think its right either, and its clear that they could physically be able to launch the HSPA+ version in the US on Thursday morning, but something else may be holding it up.