So, my first android phone was a droidx..and I just upgraded to the GN on Verizon. I am just now starting to learn what things on my droidx were "extra" stuf with "blur" apparently, and not baked into android...since I have never had a vanilla android device to compare it with until now.
So my issue. Apparently Blur had something added that would autoconvert video that you record to an acceptable size/resolution to go through as an mms message. Example: I take a 45 second clip at 720p of something. When i go to send it MMS, droidx would say you have to cut the video down to 30 seconds (which it would let me pick with a slider), then it would auto-shrink it, then attach to MMS, and send though just fine.
Sooooo....apparently vanilla android doesn't have this capability baked in? If I do the same thing as above, it simpyl says the video is beyond the limit...can't find any option to ACTUALLY edit it to make it within the limit.
so it appears I would have to know ahead of time when I go to take a video that I will want to MMS it at some point, and make sure and take that video at the lowest video settings and manually make sure I keep it short???? Or am I missing something?
If this is correct, can anyone point to an app that can take the place of what my droidx did...basically let me convert existing video on the fly so I can send as MMS...without hurting the original video of course??
I looked around, tried handcent (I like the stock texting app and really don't want to replace it)...but same thing, it wants me to retake the video using crap settings...not send an existing one recorded at 720p+
I CAN'T be the only person that actually does MMS video a lot?? And please, no suggestions on dropbox, etc. etc. I have people that aren't going to deal with that...they want a damn MMS video fast and quick for certain projects and I can't believe Android 4.0 might still lack a feature that other phones have been able to do since 2008??
Thanks.
Try using Movie Studio in ICS to edit the video to a sendable size.
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Try using Movie Studio in ICS to edit the video to a sendable size.
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I actually did not know that app existed lol. However, no..doesn't appear to help. I selected the lowest resolution (something like 860X480) and "low" quality...and it still produced a file size of 2MB for a 26 second clip and I got a "video can not be added" message when i tried to MMS it.
Thanks though, nice to know that app is built in.
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easiest way is to go into messaging app and click attach at the top. choose capture video. this will give you a countdown (1 min) for your size restriction so you don't have to think about it. also, you might have to turn off wifi to get it to send properly.
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artvandelay440 said:
easiest way is to go into messaging app and click attach at the top. choose capture video. this will give you a countdown (1 min) for your size restriction so you don't have to think about it. also, you might have to turn off wifi to get it to send properly.
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Thank you...that at least tells me how to make sure i am capturing a video in the proper format for MMS.
This still leaves a GAPING hole. I have to decide before I video something whether i want quality...or MMS...something I never had to have a trade-off on with my droidx, or my wife's iphone for that matter!!! I want to be able to record something my daughter does in 1080p...and then MMS it, or part of it, to a family memeber....just like i did EVERY OTHER DAY on my droidx.
Really? millions of cell phone users and I am the only one that uses MMS video?
i didnt think it was possible to send 1080p mms. that would put a big strain on vz infrastructure loads. it was possibly converting your droidx videos for mms without explicitly saying so, but i could be mistaken.
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artvandelay440 said:
i didnt think it was possible to send 1080p mms. that would put a big strain on vz infrastructure loads. it was possibly converting your droidx videos for mms without explicitly saying so, but i could be mistaken.
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It DEFINITELY was..that's my point, this phone doesn't and I need to find a way to do that.
Otherwise I would need to record everything twice...once in HD to store for keeping and once again in crap-mode to MMS to someone.
If my daughter is taking her first steps, do I record in **** mode so I can MMS it...or 1080p to keep and then it's stuck on my phone until i can physically go drive to another state to show her grandparents who can't even spell dropbox or youtube.
EDIT: I realized my first sentence wasn't clear. when I say it "definitely was", I am agreeing with the statement "maybe the droidx was converting the videos first"...and was NOT implying that my droidx was in fact SENDING 1080p MMS video.
I'm sure there are sending limitations with this as well but larger than the MMS limitations, but is attaching the video to an email instead of MMS'ing it an option? I know this doesn't answer your MMS question, but perhaps it's an alternative until you find something acceptable for your use.
Not saying you're wrong, but I would be really surprised if the DX was sending HD videos over MMS without some handwaving (ie, transcoding to smaller size/quality) being done. The limitation isn't time, it's size and regardless of what medium you use to record HD video with (be it an actual camera, DX or the gnex), HD video isn't small and subsequently isn't meant to be sent over MMS in all honesty.
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I'm sure there are sending limitations with this as well but larger than the MMS limitations, but is attaching the video to an email instead of MMS'ing it an option? I know this doesn't answer your MMS question, but perhaps it's an alternative until you find something acceptable for your use.
Not saying you're wrong, but I would be really surprised if the DX was sending HD videos over MMS without some handwaving (ie, transcoding to smaller size/quality) being done. The limitation isn't time, it's size and regardless of what medium you use to record HD video with (be it an actual camera, DX or the gnex), HD video isn't small and subsequently isn't meant to be sent over MMS in all honesty.
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Maybe I should clarify since it sounds like i have come across wrong. my droidx DID NOT send HD video in MMS...what it did was allow me to SHRINK ON THE FLY video i took at 720p so that I COULD send it MMS. Obviously the MMS message it sent was of standard MMS quality/size.
With the nexus I appear to have no option to transcode automatically to fit MMS limitations like I did on the Droidx....that is my issue. Even If I could find a 3rd party app that handled this seamlessly...which I can't find...I would be okay.
As far as emailing, I have a 30 second clip at 720p and it is 28 MB...so the email app says the clip is too big as well...again, with no option to shrink it for me (which I wouldn't expect since I never had that on my droidx either).
My friends Incredible performs the same as my droidx did, so clearly HTC/Motorola are either adding this in and it STILL isn't part of vanilla android, or it's broken in ICS...or it was removed between gingerbread and ICS (most likely being that the blur/sense/etc. add it)
Either way, I can't believe nobody has written an app to do this functionality, since I assume ROMS based off AOSP also don't have this....and the fact that cleary it is possible to do since phones with skins have been doing it for years.
Yeah this is an annoyance of mine as well, thanks for making this thread
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Yeah this is an annoyance of mine as well, thanks for making this thread
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LOL...doesn't seem to be much of an answer for us though.
Looks like you have been through many more android phones than me. has the nexus been the only one that doesn't seem to have this feature for you?
maybe your best bet is to link a dropbox folder between you and the other person (if you primarily get/send mms with one person, like a spouse) then upload your HD video and tell the other person to watch it. that's how my wife and i do HD video of our young kids.
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maybe your best bet is to link a dropbox folder between you and the other person (if you primarily get/send mms with one person, like a spouse) then upload your HD video and tell the other person to watch it. that's how my wife and i do HD video of our young kids.
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Thanks, but this is a little stupid to have to do...and doesn't work very well when you just want to randomly send a video to a friend or to someone at work when I am on a project.
just a suggestion.
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As I recall, this was a MotoBlur function on the DroidX, and wasn't in AOSP ROMs... For the GNex, unfortunately, I don't see any free apps that will shrink video on the market... but if recording the video at SD (480) is still too large and it means that much to you, I guess you could buy one of the apps on the market that shrinks video (some specifically for MMS).
Examples:
Video Compressor
Video Message Shrinker
VidTrim Pro
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As I recall, this was a MotoBlur function on the DroidX, and wasn't in AOSP ROMs... For the GNex, unfortunately, I don't see any free apps that will shrink video on the market... but if recording the video at SD (480) is still too large and it means that much to you, I guess you could buy one of the apps on the market that shrinks video (some specifically for MMS).
Examples:
Video Compressor
Video Message Shrinker
VidTrim Pro
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THANK YOU!
This is what I was looking for, some options! I agree that this function appears to have been a motoblur add-in, but since that was my first android it REALLY spoiled me.
Everything Else, I love the unskinned GN MUCH better.
I will look at those apps, I don't care if I have to buy an app...just as long as it would allow me to accomplish this goal...since sending MMS video like this is almost a daily routine now at work, and at home.
Anyone else with some app options...pay or not..let me know. Looking for something as easy as possible...a 1-click sort of solution.
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LOL...doesn't seem to be much of an answer for us though.
Looks like you have been through many more android phones than me. has the nexus been the only one that doesn't seem to have this feature for you?
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Yeah, it was a bump with words...
Um, I got it to work briefly on the G1 just after cupcake and on Cyanogenmod, but it would default to slideshows with audio when the people finally did receive the file (yet still show as a perfectly fine video on my end); then Google "fixed" the issue by removing the feature for an update or two, and I don't think auto-video-cropping for MMS ever was present, the G1 had only a 3MP camera- and it was the same "too large" story on my N1 and beyond. I haven't had it able to send since, although I never really tried it with my Atrix (which should have had the Blur functionality). I will keep searching for a usable app though...
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Yeah, it was a bump with words...
Um, I got it to work briefly on the G1 just after cupcake and on Cyanogenmod, but it would default to slideshows with audio when the people finally did receive the file (yet still show as a perfectly fine video on my end); then Google "fixed" the issue by removing the feature for an update or two, and I don't think auto-video-cropping for MMS ever was present, the G1 had only a 3MP camera- and it was the same "too large" story on my N1 and beyond. I haven't had it able to send since, although I never really tried it with my Atrix (which should have had the Blur functionality). I will keep searching for a usable app though...
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I downloaded video trim pro, and it looks like it could accomplish this, but during the transcoding it just stops before 100% and leaves you with a corrupt file.
The developer has a comment in there saying that the operating system might close the app for using too many resources, I have emailed him to see if there is a way to get around that...cause if so it looks like this is the best option I will have.
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Currently most Mms.apk's have a max size of 1MB. Anything over that gets insanely compressed as you all know. The stock one is even worse.
I'm thinking of doing one with a max size of 2 or 3MB since that's around the size of most of our pictures. Hopefully I can take even more slack off the compression (no promises on that one yet, haven't found it's hiding spot).
Anyone interested? I'm going to do it anyway just figured I'd see the interest level here before making a new thread for it. Also, any other ideas/suggestions are welcome.
Id be interested. Im tired of having to run a different rom just to get some features someone could mod.
Handcent has the option to increase the size limit to 5mb which is what i use and it works great. It says Evo only but it works fine on my phone been using it for a long time now. But if you can get the stock messing app to that limit i will use it. Handcent sends portrait photos sideways bcuz of samsungs crappy way of determining orientation. When sending portrait photos is the only time i send thru stock app cuz it sends correctly but quality is destroyed
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Handcent has the option to increase the size limit to 5mb which is what i use and it works great. It says Evo only but it works fine on my phone been using it for a long time now. But if you can get the stock messing app to that limit i will use it. Handcent sends portrait photos sideways bcuz of samsungs crappy way of determining orientation. When sending portrait photos is the only time i send thru stock app cuz it sends correctly but quality is destroyed
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But the thing is handcent for me is spotty. Very spotty.
Well I'll be starting the work and testing on it after this weekend. Yes, Handcent is nice but as stated it can be spotty and not work sometimes. I don't think the max size needs to be at 5MB, 3MB should be enough but I don't see any harm in setting it a 5 just in case.
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Well I'll be starting the work and testing on it after this weekend. Yes, Handcent is nice but as stated it can be spotty and not work sometimes. I don't think the max size needs to be at 5MB, 3MB should be enough but I don't see any harm in setting it a 5 just in case.
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this would be great!
(I hate handcent!)
I hate handcent as well lol.
Idk what u guys mean by spotty. I didn't think handcent needed a signal lol.. But i look forward to ur work when its done! I'll be able to send pics taken in portrait mode straight not sideways, plus no horrible compression
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Spotty as in sometimes it wont send the pic even though it is saying it is.
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Spotty as in sometimes it wont send the pic even though it is saying it is.
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Ah ok. I think i had that issue when a update came out. I fixed it by messing with an option that disabled the stock messenger. Once i enabled it back the problem went away instantly. I stick with handcent bcuz the stock app is ugly and the horrible compression it does. Maybe OP can give the stock app a make over? Lol
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How can I make a favorites page in the phone app? It's a bummer having to scroll through 200 contacts when I frequently use only 8 on a daily basis.
Does anyone know of a good notes application similar to the iPhone one? I used Gmail sync on the iPhone (so my notes are saved) and just need a no hassle way to save text quickly.
Can I somehow get a few of the Samsung apps back? I suppose the only thing I really miss at this moment is the voice recorder...
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How can I make a favorites page in the phone app? It's a bummer having to scroll through 200 contacts when I frequently use only 8 on a daily basis.
Does anyone know of a good notes application similar to the iPhone one? I used Gmail sync on the iPhone (so my notes are saved) and just need a no hassle way to save text quickly.
Can I somehow get a few of the Samsung apps back? I suppose the only thing I really miss at this moment is the voice recorder...
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To add favorites (they appear on the 3rd tab in the Phone app), open their contact and click the Star up in the top-right corner.
That's a negative on samsung apps. Go find a voice recorder in the market.
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Does anyone know of a good notes application similar to the iPhone one? I used Gmail sync on the iPhone (so my notes are saved) and just need a no hassle way to save text quickly.
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The "best" note app is EverNote
Can I somehow get a few of the Samsung apps back? I suppose the only thing I really miss at this moment is the voice recorder...
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I've been using Easy Voice Recorder for quite a while now (though the free version has a recording limit of something like 1 hour). It even includes a widget for instant recording. Give it a try. The S3 with noise cancellation makes for an excellent recording device. I've dubbed its audio tracks over video and after a little audacity post-process you'd be hard-pressed to tell it wasn't recorded on a pro microphone.
None of the Samsung apps will be coming to CM or AOKP, because their fangs are sunk too deep into the touchwiz framework itself and can't stand alone.
Thanks for the detailed reply. EverNote seems like it will let me record audio and also attach some text with it, which will be ideal for song demos while I'm working out the lyrics. If that doesn't work I'll give EVR a try.
Who knows, I may end up going back to TouchWiz once the official Jelly Bean update is out, but I'm really enjoying CM in the meantime.
hello all, just wanted to see if anyone has had any experience with webcam/secuity apps and if they had any recommendations or tips. basically im wanting to take one of my extra android phones so i don't have to use my s3 and put it in my window aimed to my front yard. id really like to have it record constantly through the entire night over my wifi and save to one of my pc's. something is tearing my yard up at night, either the lil neighborhood kids or animals or an army of mole crickets. i don't wanna go the motion route incase it is mole crickets that is why im looking to go the record entire night avenue. any suggestions on an app that seems to fit the build would be greatly appreciated. thanks
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http://www.junauza.com/2012/02/video-surveillance-apps-for-android.html?m=1
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hello all, just wanted to see if anyone has had any experience with webcam/secuity apps and if they had any recommendations or tips. basically im wanting to take one of my extra android phones do i don't have to use my s3 and put it in my window aimed to my front yard. id really like to have it record constantly through the entire night over my wifi and save to one of my pc's. something is tearing my yard up at night, either the lil neighborhood kids or animals or an army of mole crickets. i don't wanna go the motion route incase it is mole crickets that is why im looking to go the record entire night avenue. any suggestions on an app that seems to fit the build would be greatly appreciated. thanks
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There's one app that completely turns your phone's camera into a webcam, i had one where the cable had to be connected but now a days might even be wireless. Something like this might work for you. Then have your computer record the webcam feed using a recording software like manycam or Cyberlink or something like that.
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You know what, there are a lot of cool apps like the one i posted. here is the entire search list i did on the play sstore.
It's not going to work. Any phone camera won't pick up enough light in the dark to get a clear picture. The easiest way is to buy a webcam and USB extension cord and just use the computer.
Another method is to make a Skype name like dkdhsbj18374 and set it to auto accept video chat. That's for survelliance from a remote location. You can also start the Skype video and use a screen recorder on your PC. Still the quality will be garbage in low light though.
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[/COLOR]You know what, there are a lot of cool apps like the one i posted. here is the entire search list i did on the play sstore.
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i do appreciate the first set of info u gave. would you happen to remember the app name you were referring to? as for the play store search list thanks but i had already tried that approach only to find so many and it seems as if the user comments never correctly reflect the apps rating. that's why i figured it would be good to ask here and get a more xda-ish recommendation as we seem to hold way higher standards than average joe in the market with a comment like " f#c#kn sucks! Fc on ny G1" or "eh, its ok. best freakin app ever! FTW!" but thanks for your help.
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i do appreciate the first set of info u gave. would you happen to remember the app name you were referring to? as for the play store search list thanks but i had already tried that approach only to find so many and it seems as if the user comments never correctly reflect the apps rating. that's why i figured it would be good to ask here and get a more xda-ish recommendation as we seem to hold way higher standards than average joe in the market with a comment like " f#c#kn sucks! Fc on ny G1" or "eh, its ok. best freakin app ever! FTW!" but thanks for your help.
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hahah yeah thats true! I blame the market, they dont allow you to type a lot.
But i cant remember the exact name, not to mention the quality was horrible. This was maybe like 4 years ago when i had my Touch pro 2. But i just downloaded DroidCam last night and its freaking awesome. Love the option to have the light on, plus the quality is phenomenal!
Just tested out IPWebcam and its really cool. Best feature: being able to turn screen off and still use it. Its browswer based, you can put the URL into a media player and stream the contents, or you can right click and click save as to record the contents. Live latency is really horrible but might be because of my wifi. But once its recorded its all synced up. Actually am going to use this to see into places i normaly cant, like when working on my car Thanks for having me discover this
Camera and lighting issues aside, iSpy will do time lapse recording on a schedule (very configurable), and it is free so long as you don't need their online features (remote access, sms/email alerts upon motion detection, etc). It has by far the most options of any PC based surveillance software I've found.
I feel really silly having to ask this question, but for the life of me I can't seem to find the option to change the resolution for images taken with the camera. I found the option to change the resolution for videos, but not for still images.
In camera settings there are crop options for Wide (16:9), Regular(4:3) and Square (1:1). I would expect to find options for resolution around here too, but I just don't see any options.
Grasping at straws, I thought perhaps it could be the sharpness slider under image adjustments, but that's not it.
What am I missing?
Thanks.
You cannot. Only with google camera app. Stock is automatically set at 4MP
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You cannot. Only with google camera app. Stock is automatically set at 4MP
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Really? Thanks for the answer. At least I don't feel as foolish now, for not being able to find an option that doesn't exist.
But short of installing a different app, what are people doing if they just want to snap a quick picture to send via MMS? That's actually how I discovered the limitation, as the picture I took and tried to send via MMS wouldn't transmit as it was too large for my carrier (Verizon) at over 2 Meg. I love the phone, but that seems like a pretty silly limitation.
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Really? Thanks for the answer. At least I don't feel as foolish now, for not being able to find an option that doesn't exist.
But short of installing a different app, what are people doing if they just want to snap a quick picture to send via MMS? That's actually how I discovered the limitation, as the picture I took and tried to send via MMS wouldn't transmit as it was too large for my carrier (Verizon) at over 2 Meg. I love the phone, but that seems like a pretty silly limitation.
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I believe it's because no one would really want to send anything smaller. As for MMS limitations, use Textra or another app that automatically makes the pictures smaller.
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I believe it's because no one would really want to send anything smaller. As for MMS limitations, use Textra or another app that automatically makes the pictures smaller.
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I actually do use Textra. Apparently I had the setting for MMS size my carrier would allow set incorrectly. Thanks for the tip on that.
But I've got to disagree with your assessment that no one would want to send anything smaller than a 1.5 to 2.5 meg image. For the vast majority of simple snapshots that people are sending back and forth to view on phones and on Facebook, etc., there's no need for that kind of resolution. There are lots of reasons, including saving storage space and bandwidth, that people might want to capture images at a lower resolution. Not having the ability to do that just seems like a silly limitation of the software.
Thanks again for your help.
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Really? Thanks for the answer. At least I don't feel as foolish now, for not being able to find an option that doesn't exist.
But short of installing a different app, what are people doing if they just want to snap a quick picture to send via MMS? That's actually how I discovered the limitation, as the picture I took and tried to send via MMS wouldn't transmit as it was too large for my carrier (Verizon) at over 2 Meg. I love the phone, but that seems like a pretty silly limitation.
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I actually do use Textra. Apparently I had the setting for MMS size my carrier would allow set incorrectly. Thanks for the tip on that.
But I've got to disagree with your assessment that no one would want to send anything smaller than a 1.5 to 2.5 meg image. For the vast majority of simple snapshots that people are sending back and forth to view on phones and on Facebook, etc., there's no need for that kind of resolution. There are lots of reasons, including saving storage space and bandwidth, that people might want to capture images at a lower resolution. Not having the ability to do that just seems like a silly limitation of the software.
Thanks again for your help.
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I agree with all of that but 4MP uses 2mb? Basically nothing. The same could be said for a phone with 16MP which is waaay to much storage and data.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...nced-messaging-to-make-texting-more-powerful/
T-Mobile announced today that they are releasing the new Advanced Messaging capabilities to about a dozen devices, presumably the G3 is one of them. The features would include read receipts, seeing when others are typing, sharing high-res photos and videos, near real-time chat, and support across any device and network.
I haven't looked at anything about it yet, but I assume that it shouldn't be too difficult to port it over to the G3. It is likely just some APN modifications and a couple APKs and files.
I cant wait
Subscribing just in case the apk magically appears here, I've hunted high and low for it even on Galaxy Grand Prime T-Mobile demo phones and trying to update them and still see nothing but messages app.
Just a update...
lobo4806 said:
it's not an app. its a technology. the SMS app devs are the ones who need to add the feature. t-mobile wont have an app for this. do you even read bro?
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Which makes sense why an app hasnt shown up yet.
Ohh yea Falcon SMS is already supporting RCS,.
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Ohh yea Falcon SMS is already supporting RCS,.
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Does it really? Just downloaded the app and don't see any of the features..
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Does it really? Just downloaded the app and don't see any of the features..
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Some other user said that on the XDA Article just paraphrasing them, I believe Falcon has intentions of doing so, but right now it's still just a newborn baby it hasn't even gotten wide spread yet, RCS that is but it's barely even on one major phone right now. So we still got a good way to go first.
I really do hope RCS-SMS Messaging takes lead, for my friends who don't use messengers like FBIM or Kik and WhatsApp, I honestly hate using the painfully slow old and outdated sms, waiting nearly 30 mins sometimes for one sms to get delivered is ridiculous to me and due for a change.