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Every rom I see by that team is always a alpha version I have yet to see a fully completed rom by that team.
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Yes they do? How about cm 7?
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Yes they do? How about cm 7?
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or CM6, CM5 etc...
A better question would be is a rom ever complete? There will always be bugs that are found that do need to be fixed just like Android in general it's never really "done" there are always updates to it that fix things.
What gingerbread rom do they have for our phone. Looking to try them out.
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What gingerbread rom do they have for our phone. Looking to try them out.
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Well you do realize that our phone is CDMA, Proprietary code is not available for some of the hardware which greatly increases the time it takes to develop our phones ports.
If you like the idea of a Complete CyanogenMod you should grab an international GSM phone preferably a stock AOSP device. You will have a "complete" rom alot faster than you ever will with a sprint device.
The OG epic only became officially supported not long ago.
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What gingerbread rom do they have for our phone. Looking to try them out.
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There is no "official" GB rom from CM for this phone. Rootzwiki has an "unofficial" CM7.1/2 that's no longer supported however. We are getting "official" CM9 and the Alpha 1 is in the Dev section.
Lol wut? Is this your first android device?
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Lol wut? Is this your first android device?
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Lol
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cidica said:
There is no "official" GB rom from CM for this phone. Rootzwiki has an "unofficial" CM7.1/2 that's no longer supported however. We are getting "official" CM9 and the Alpha 1 is in the Dev section.
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I was told that the Alpha 1 wasn't official.?
There are at least 3 or 4 Cyanogenmod attempts for our phone, isn't that a set team that always develops or can anyone attempt a Cyanogenmod? Don't understand how there can be multiple Cyanogenmod ROMs for our phone?
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There are at least 3 or 4 Cyanogenmod attempts for our phone, isn't that a set team that always develops or can anyone attempt a Cyanogenmod? Don't understand how there can be multiple Cyanogenmod ROMs for our phone?
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I think you mean to say there are multiple AOSP-based (original ICS w/o Touchwiz) ROMs for our phone.
Sbrissen and Darchstar are currently working on CM9 for our phone.
T.C.P. has released AOKP, Gummy, and Codename Android for our phone.
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There are at least 3 or 4 Cyanogenmod attempts for our phone, isn't that a set team that always develops or can anyone attempt a Cyanogenmod? Don't understand how there can be multiple Cyanogenmod ROMs for our phone?
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Anyone is free to take the CM code and build their own ROM. That's the beauty of open source. All they ask is that such derivative builds are labeled as kangs or otherwise make note that they are using CM9's codebase.
Anyone can become a member of CM if they do good work such as committing bug fixes to the project and take a role in supporting CM on a particular device
Darchstar's build should be considered the "official" CM9 build for our phone. He's part of the CM team. However, until he or others are able to build a working kernel from source for the E4GT and not use Samsung's we won't have a truly CM9 build.
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Every rom I see by that team is always a alpha version I have yet to see a fully completed rom by that team.
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No rom is complete without official ice release.. they don't even have source for our phones yet for ics. Therefore it cannot be completed.. plus kudos to the person who said it will never be complete based off of bugs plus there are always ways to improve a rom regardless; of how "complete" it is.. would you want a dev to make a rom then never update it? They can't make it official until everything is working..
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Nothing is ever finished in android
Notice the carriers always pushing fixes. ICS will probably be updated within a month after official drops.
Just the nature of the beast.
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Android has become more and more complex to develop for (both in terms of skill and computing power), and the true developers (not including people who just modify existing roms) have become more spread out across devices.
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I noticed there are two separate forums for Android development for the Note II.
Why is that? What does 'Original Android' mean in this context?
I have frequented other device forums but have not come across these two separate forums for any device (that I have used).
From what I've seen that refers to original rooms and mods built for/from the note 2 as opposed to ports from other devices
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I believe the android development section is meant for stuff based on the Samsung software, where original android development is meant for the stuff that isn't based on the Samsung software, like cyanogenmod.
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The thing is,what ever you create from scratch goes into original android Dev section while whatever you develop my modifying existing source/code goes into android development
For example:cyanogen mod being build from scratch and a kernel build from scratch goes into original android dev section while custom roms depending on Sammy stock roms cm sources or kernels depending already existing custom kernel sources goes into android development
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Thanks for the replies guys!
I guess its a new thing XDA is implementing since other devices (that I have owned) do not have this distinction; all the ROMS are released under one forum.
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Thanks for the replies guys!
I guess its a new thing XDA is implementing since other devices (that I have owned) do not have this distinction; all the ROMS are released under one forum.
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Actually, this is a practice that has been going on for a year or so, it started with the Samsung S2, and spread to other popular devices.
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Hi
I like testing new Roms to discover new UI, features,.... But for several weeks the development of new Roms is almost dead (many roms already exist, the new section of Galaxy S 4, Note 8.0...)
Of course I thank all developpers who worked and still work for the Note II section!!! :good:
I had a look at AT&T Note II section and it seems that several Roms don't exist for N7100 International. I'm not a developper but I already saw a few threads about porting roms and it seems that it does't require a lot of time... As a reminder I'm not a developper
Everybody has a lot of things to do but if some developers could port AT&T remaining roms to N7100 section it would be AWESOME!!!
I hope that my suggestion is the beginning of new threads
Thank you.
What's the point? We have plenty of awesome ROMs that they don't - and I don't think we're missing out on anything.
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What's the point? We have plenty of awesome ROMs that they don't - and I don't think we're missing out on anything.
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That's not my point of view. I'm very glad to see the good work of each developper.
If you compare with themes for CM10.1 based roms, even if 20 themes already exist I will also be happy to discover one more theme.
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That's not my point of view. I'm very glad to see the good work of each developper.
If you compare with themes for CM10.1 based roms, even if 20 themes already exist I will also be happy to discover one more theme.
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Themes are not the same though. If you have already ROMs which offer exact same functions and more, what's the point of other ROMs? It's fun to try out, but it's not necessary at all. As in not worth porting.
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Themes are not the same though. If you have already ROMs which offer exact same functions and more, what's the point of other ROMs? It's fun to try out, but it's not necessary at all. As in not worth porting.
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Of course.. I didn't check all remaining Roms from AT&T section. It was only a suggestion
why dont u people try to build an AOSP rom instead ofa CM....coz probably cm is sumthing that is modifications made to AOSP....and even the touchwiz ui is modified AOSP so if we can have a AOSP build itll probably be easier for us to build these roms..
...if sum one is ready to help me learn about building roms from source ill sure try making CM's and AOKP and paranoid and what not
is better but its based on AOSP.....its like imagine AOSP as a stock rom and CM as a custom rom...wait why imagine..its actually like that....so the basic idea is to improve performance...where CM show up...but whats the base CM uses??...its AOSP....so if we have a perfect AOSP which is obv possible...coz Samsung wouldn't be able to build TouchWiz withouta base...for obv reasons...so why not try building an AOSP first and then continuing with CM
do u even know whatcha sayin?
tl;dr
Here's some math:
No sources = no base
No base = no sources
No sources = no cm
No cm = no aosp
So unless you try to find a way to make those proprietary sources available then I'd suggest doing some research.
Also even if you tried you'll fail, we have the best devs for sgy working hard for that goal and we're honestly not making good progress. Well except for percy and his cm9 and psycho's cm7 but still a long way from "stable as stock".
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My information might not be correct. A friend of mine told me this.
See cm is made by aftermarket developers keeping in mind that it can support lot of different phones.
On the other hand aosp was made for nexus phones so they don't give a damn that it works on other phones or not. They are just selfish lol.
So building pure aosp is tougher compared to cm. Cm has modifications on aosp to support different phones.
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My information might not be correct. A friend of mine told me this.
See cm is made by aftermarket developers keeping in mind that it can support lot of different phones.
On the other hand aosp was made for nexus phones so they don't give a damn that it works on other phones or not. They are just selfish lol.
So building pure aosp is tougher compared to cm. Cm has modifications on aosp to support different phones.
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Naman...we haven't tried making AOSP yet so we cant just confirm this and it cant be that it was made for nexus only coz its an open source project so they must have probably kept in mind that many dev's will try to have it on different devices ..... the Gingerbread that our SGY uses is nothing but a custom rom of the aosp which we call as stock....
for obv reasons...samsung would not have made their own android os right...they have used google sources....the point is...the time dev's have spent on making CM if would have been focused on AOSP we might just have a build close enough to psycho's work!
and what ive learned or i might be wrong in this that psycho used aosp's sources for the fixes....Maybe wrong about this...i just read it somewhere here!.....and as our device has the largest community of awesome dev's why not we try the AOSP thing out??
we cant just conclude without trying...can we??......some months back people were like we wont have a CM....we have a working CM7 and CM9 which are working pretty fine except for the driver bugs....same way,we might just end up having an AOSP...
another hope to Young GT-S6310. need a great developers to make it true
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My information might not be correct. A friend of mine told me this.
See cm is made by aftermarket developers keeping in mind that it can support lot of different phones.
On the other hand aosp was made for nexus phones so they don't give a damn that it works on other phones or not. They are just selfish lol.
So building pure aosp is tougher compared to cm. Cm has modifications on aosp to support different phones.
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Maybe you should see this. www.cyanogenmod.org/about
And also about android opensource project. Google gives aosp source to all manufacturers as part of aosp allience/programme which they further modify. And first phone running android was not nexus to say that they don't give damn about other devices. And the number of devices running CM is still very low.
Like I said, a friend told me about it.
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If we get a set of experienced Devs who want to help out we might get aosp
Also if stock is like a custom aosp
That means our phone must support AOSP!!
Only need some experience Devs :sly:
As i said its all about aosp....just need sum1 to teach me these sources and setup stuff....i would like to start working on it as soon as possible!
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Our devs are already experienced :sly:
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Our devs are already experienced :sly:
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he is trying to tell we need dev's who have experiance compiling source roms not dev's who are great with adding tweaks and theming the our samsung stock rom's.....source compiling is far different from the rom i made or many of the roms available in our threads....
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he is trying to tell we need dev's who have experiance compiling source roms not dev's who are great with adding tweaks and theming the our samsung stock rom's.....source compiling is far different from the rom i made or many of the roms available in our threads....
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There are very less people or maybe no one who has source development experience.
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There are very less people or maybe no one who has source development experience.
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i know...thats the reason ive been looking around google for sumthing that could get me some help .........its hard i guess ill have to take percy's help :?
How about making thread "all devs come here please help us to compile cm for our device" in another device board? Lol jk
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How about making thread "all devs come here please help us to compile cm for our device" in another device board? Lol jk
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Veru funny dude! ( --..-- )
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Reynaldi said:
How about making thread "all devs come here please help us to compile cm for our device" in another device board? Lol jk
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Really bro?._.
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I am new here.......
Don't be rude and hit thanks
Device : Samsung Galaxy Y
ROM : Hyperion 8 pre gm alsa build 0.2
KERNEL : Savie's
I say start saving money for a new phone.
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I say start saving money for a new phone.
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sorry naman but why buy a new phone? we have lots of roms and kernels. also we can oc the device to 1.25ghz and have a gpu. this is the best phone for a developer. even if it ends up bricking or lost, no regrets since a low cost phone. lets just finish what we started. perseverance is the key man.
sorry but i am not flaming you, i am a big fan of yours and i love the kernel
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sorry naman but why buy a new phone? we have lots of roms and kernels. also we can oc the device to 1.25ghz and have a gpu. this is the best phone for a developer. even if it ends up bricking or lost, no regrets since a low cost phone. lets just finish what we started. perseverance is the key man.
sorry but i am not flaming you, i am a big fan of yours and i love the kernel
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man.. they are just stock based roms.. everyone is upgrading these days, android 4.3 has been released and you are still on 2.3.6. Which makes you guys really outdated..
Kernel? yeah there are huge number of kernels here but if you notice that most of em have same features See other phones like nexus 4. They have whats called "real" kernel development.
Pico which is 1k more expensive is 100 times better than this phone and you also know it. Why not buy that? I sold my Y for 3.5k and another 3k can buy you a arm7 phone. Which wont get outdated for another year atleast..
Hey guys.
I've recently started getting into building AOSP bases ROMs for our I9190/I9195 devices (sorry I9192 users. Somehow I find it difficult to trust those who have two separate phone numbers).
Anyway- a lot of people seemed to like his Carbon JB ROM, myself included. Would it be worth my time building Carbon JB from source and uploading nightly/ as regular as I can?
Bit of a lame question, but I need to know if anyone would actually be interested before I go setting up a new workspace and initialize the Carbon git.
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First of all I'd like to thank prox for his time and effort, carbon is a nice rom but I prefer pac. That said the more roms the better
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Hey guys.
I've recently started getting into building AOSP bases ROMs for our I9190/I9195 devices (sorry I9192 users. Somehow I find it difficult to trust those who have two separate phone numbers).
Anyway- a lot of people seemed to like his Carbon JB ROM, myself included. Would it be worth my time building Carbon JB from source and uploading nightly/ as regular as I can?
Bit of a lame question, but I need to know if anyone would actually be interested before I go setting up a new workspace and initialize the Carbon git.
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i would very appreciate it if someone can keep this rom alive.
You can try to build Carbon and Pacman ...that would be awsome
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i would very appreciate it if someone can keep this rom alive.
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+1
Forget PAC ROM, focus on carbon if that's what you want to do. When you're comfortable with it maybe try aokp :sly:
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Want to know how to boost your devices performance and battery life? See my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495269
im still here, but i dont own this device anymore. but i can make carbon with cyanogenmod's m1. i updated serrano3gxx with latest changes and uploading it right now. serranoltexx coming soon. and i also try to get slimkat branch kk aka Android 4.4 working on s4 mini devices. so lets see i can make it or not
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im still here, but i dont own this device anymore. but i can make carbon with cyanogenmod's m1. i updated serrano3gxx with latest changes and uploading it right now. serranoltexx coming soon. and i also try to get slimkat branch kk aka Android 4.4 working on s4 mini devices. so lets see i can make it or not
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That's all great.
Many thanks.
Where do you put the new roms because the elder threads are all closed now?
And please do a full port of the (new) slim rom.
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That's all great.
Many thanks.
Where do you put the new roms because the elder threads are all closed now?
And please do a full port of the (new) slim rom.
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new roms will be in my d-h account, is visible on carbon thread. just look in folder.
but slimkat build failed because of build errors. i will wait a little that slim team is ready for build. then i will try again.
@proxuser
Sad to see you go man, you really made xda worth while, was really looking forward to your 2.0 ghz kernel, dont know if there will be any developers up for the challange.
Thanx
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Is the version of carbon with upload date 2013-10-31 going to be the last version?
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and i also try to get slimkat branch kk aka Android 4.4 working on s4 mini devices. so lets see i can make it or not
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This would be a sick way to say goodbye to s4 mini
+1 for new carbon roms
lucky this thread is created in general section...cant post reply on proxuser thread because of new account...
nevertheless, its great to see someone taking the effort to continue developing roms for s4 mini. I thought im gonna be stuck with the latest carbon rom from proxuser until i buy a new phone
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Hey guys.
I've recently started getting into building AOSP bases ROMs for our I9190/I9195 devices (sorry I9192 users. Somehow I find it difficult to trust those who have two separate phone numbers).
Anyway- a lot of people seemed to like his Carbon JB ROM, myself included. Would it be worth my time building Carbon JB from source and uploading nightly/ as regular as I can?
Bit of a lame question, but I need to know if anyone would actually be interested before I go setting up a new workspace and initialize the Carbon git.
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Hi, I9192 users are mostly those who have different jobs or working in different country’s that is why they have two sim card and not because they cheat there partner, therefore they need most help and understanding, and if You can try to build Carbon for I9192 than you can prove you can do it all.
carbon built on 3.11.2013
s4 mini i9195 serranoltexx download is ready
i9190 serrano3gxx is uploading now..
i will reopen carbon thread until someone take it from me..
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Hi, I9192 users are mostly those who have different jobs or working in different country’s that is why they have two sim card and not because they cheat there partner, therefore they need most help and understanding, and if You can try to build Carbon for I9192 than you can prove you can do it all.
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I agree, we have 2 sims for work/personal, most of us, at least. I left my i9000 with cm because I had to carry a dumbphone also for work...
Not about proving something, but more about helping... We with i9192 are very dissapointed that there's no alternative to stock rom
It seems people are interested!
Proxuser seems to have made it clear in this thread that he'll still be giving our devices some dev-attention. Thanks for that, Proxuser.
I9192 Users: I was just kidding about the dual sim malarkey, it'd be great to see your devices getting some attention. I'll compile a Carbon/Pure CM-10.2 ROM for your device soon. I'll need testers, since I don't own the device. I do feel however, that people are gonna start to lose interest in ROMs which aren't based on Android 4.4 or above.
Just to be clear- I'm just a compiler. Proxuser is the one for developer consultation.
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I9192 Users: I was just kidding about the dual sim malarkey, it'd be great to see your devices getting some attention. I'll compile a Carbon/Pure CM-10.2 ROM for your device soon. I'll need testers, since I don't own the device.
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I'm available for dummy testing your i9192 builds
I cooked some stockmod for personnal use but can't wait for real stuff !