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My opinion is that the bluetooth audio quality on the HTC Desire is terrible!
When playing music, in most of the tracks I hear clicking/crackling noise when some frequency/dB/something else is reached.
To illustrate what I mean, I have uploaded an audio fragment in which you can hear a similar noise.
Download fragment (MP3) Warning! it's drum n bass
You can hear the sound at the very beginning and at around 6 seconds (and at the end). As if a tweeter (speaker for higher frequencies) get overloaded.
I don't know if it is related to the phone's hardware, (radio) firmware or the Android OS. I've tried different music players, radio firmwares and custom roms. I also enabled an equalizer for bt audio using DSPManager. Unfortunately, nothing helped
edit: Using current versions of DeFoST or OpenDesire (and maybe others), the bt sound quality is how it should be! Fixed for me, but I hope an update from HTC will do the same.
Btw, this crackling/clicking is not only related to the HTC Desire, I have heard it on more (non-android) phones that were connected to my bt audio setup (in car). Unfortunately I haven't been able to test other Android phones, but my old Nokia N82 and SE K800i always sounded clear.
My guess is that it's just a non-controllable system setting of Android to solve the problem, but I don't know where (config/settings files?) to search for BT audio settings.
Any ideas?
That's the typical audio quality of a mediocre A2DP device: give a try at a Sony Ericsson MW-600 headset, you'll see what an Hi-Fi Bluetooth device is.
@ngel said:
That's the typical audio quality of a mediocre A2DP device: give a try at a Sony Ericsson MW-600 headset, you'll see what an Hi-Fi Bluetooth device is.
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I'm running Defrost rom now and the sound quality is perfect, how it should be! So, it's not related to the audio device, or the default settings/drivers of the Desire are "too good" for my audio device (Pioneer BT unit @ car audio), which I think is not the case, since I also had this noise on my Logitech Pure-Fi.
@ngel said:
That's the typical audio quality of a mediocre A2DP device: give a try at a Sony Ericsson MW-600 headset, you'll see what an Hi-Fi Bluetooth device is.
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Actually I recently owned this headsert but the quality of the sound was still terrible. I thought it was a problem with the headset at first, but that is not the case. I returned it and bought a Jabra BT3030 and the problem still persists. Anyone know if this is actually a problem with the phone or is it software related? I can add that I don't hear these noises when streaming audio through e.g. the youtube app, only mp3 and it doesn't matter which player I use (I've tried loads).
I have the jabra dogtags, audio playback sounds exactly the same as when my headphones are plugged in direct (tested it several times, culd not tell the difference), except that I have a louder volume via the jabra, which is all good as I listen to drum and bass also. Mabey device fault?
It is software related. Using current DeFroST or OpenDesire roms (and maybe others), bluetooth audio is great
CONTACTMC said:
I have the jabra dogtags, audio playback sounds exactly the same as when my headphones are plugged in direct (tested it several times, culd not tell the difference), except that I have a louder volume via the jabra, which is all good as I listen to drum and bass also. Mabey device fault?
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well if it would've been device fault you'd think that I'd hear that noise through youtube streams as well.
But yeah as tutti-frutti stated it might be a software issue, which points me towards a root. But since I'd rather not root atm, anyone knows any other solution?
Might try a hard reset first and hope for the best. I will get back to you on that .
Thank you so much for describing my problem!!
I am currently downloading OpenDesire. Just in case that it does not work, where do i find DeFost??? I can't find it on the Market.
Thanks again!
I have Samsung Epic 4g.
nope Desire's Bluetooth audio quality is good in fact Awesome..!!
-May be the problem is not with the phone, its with Bluetooth head set you are using.
-My suggestion is to use Nokia or Motorola A2DP Stereo head phones
-I'm using Motorola motorkr S9 hd ,,,its awesome..!!
-Try this ,,it might work
harish.awe said:
nope Desire's Bluetooth audio quality is good in fact Awesome..!!
-May be the problem is not with the phone, its with Bluetooth head set you are using.
-My suggestion is to use Nokia or Motorola A2DP Stereo head phones
-I'm using Motorola motorkr S9 hd ,,,its awesome..!!
-Try this ,,it might work
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For me, it is an issue with my car, not headphones.
A little UP!
Having the same issues with a Nokia BH-504 headset. Music quality is poor with every Sense ROM (original, rooted, Sense HD, whatever), sound like the tweeters are overloaded.
Definetly not a problem with the headset, it sound perfect with HTC Legend.
Tried to switch to non-Sense ROM (DeFrost, OpenDesire, etc.). The quality is perfect, but music play stops every 1-2 minutes for a second. Very irritating. Anyone experienced this? Is this a problem with my Desire, should I send it for warranty? (Don't want to send without enough evidence, don't wanna be without a phone for weeks...)
Okay, update: Tested the new Gingerbread AOSP and still having these stops at 2-3 minutes. Very strange...
Anyone any idea? Can I debug the bluetooth transfer somehow? Logcat didn't really show anything... Can it be a fault of the phone?
Chapell said:
Anyone any idea? Can I debug the bluetooth transfer somehow? Logcat didn't really show anything... Can it be a fault of the phone?
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You need an sd r/w-buffer fix in kernel to stop that. I don't know if it comes with any senseless rom though. Maybe you could try the lite version of baadnewz hd rom.
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Ik Desire said:
You need an sd r/w-buffer fix in kernel to stop that. I don't know if it comes with any senseless rom though. Maybe you could try the lite version of baadnewz hd rom.
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Thanks, I'll look into it. But if that's the problem, it would affect music playback with wired headphones too, isn't it?
And with Sense ROMs I have the overloaded tweeter-like problem, but no stutters. With non-Sense ROMs I have beautiful audio quality but music stops for a second randomly.
Update: Checked Aura ROM with sdfix, no problem with stuttering, but still the overloaded high-frequency problem. Meanwhile I checked that this SD fix is available only for Sense ROMs because it's HTC's hacking, the AOSP versions have no SD problems.
Oh, good lord! I was nearly to believe that I'm some sort of audiophile!
I'm using Plantronics 903 with my Desire and sound quality is just OK (I'm using SENSE ROM, will try OpenDesire in a bit). However, I cannot say I was expecting more.
What funny is happened today: I paired my 903 with PC today - sound quality was nearly same like my Desire, then I noticed someting in Bluetooth Setting Panel of PC. There was a combo box which labeled as "Audio Quality" and it was at the "Low" setting. I switched it "High Quality" and reconnected the device and voila! The sound has been thousands of times better!
Now I'm wondering if such a switch is also available in Desire? Maybe not obvious, but a Kernel variable perhaps? Damn that I don't know a sh** about programming these devices :'(
EDIT : Funny - I think that setting was not of PC's, but Headset's! It's quite well right now! And I didn't even try OpenDesire yet!
Chapell said:
A little UP!
Having the same issues with a Nokia BH-504 headset. Music quality is poor with every Sense ROM (original, rooted, Sense HD, whatever), sound like the tweeters are overloaded.
Definetly not a problem with the headset, it sound perfect with HTC Legend.
Tried to switch to non-Sense ROM (DeFrost, OpenDesire, etc.). The quality is perfect, but music play stops every 1-2 minutes for a second. Very irritating. Anyone experienced this? Is this a problem with my Desire, should I send it for warranty? (Don't want to send without enough evidence, don't wanna be without a phone for weeks...)
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I have similar sound issues on non-sense roms. I believe it's mostly to do with range is just not quite as good as with sense based roms. I haven't had time to really figure out why yet.
Okay, so they replaced my Nokia BH-504 headset with a new one, still the same issue with Desire Sense ROMs but Legend Sense is still good. So it's not an issue with the headset (well, could be a general incompatibility problem, but I don't think so) Will check my laptop and a Gingerbread ROM on the Desire. Okay, conclusion after further tests with the replaced headset:
with Desire Sense ROMs: horrible quality in the high frequencies with every MP3.
with Desire non-Sense ROMs (OpenDesire, Gingerbred, etc): Good quality, but music play stops for a secons every 1-2 minutes.
with HP TouchSmart TM2 notebook: Quality problem AND music sutter BOTH
with HTC Legend original Froyo ROM: No problem
with Sony Ericsson X8: No problem
with HTC Touch HD: Quality problem
The headset has been replaced with a new one, same errors occur.
I have no idea what's wrong. I can't believe 2 phone's and a notebook's Bluetooth chip is faulty. So this could be an incompatiblity, hooray for great Bluetooth standard specification I should try a Nokia BH-905 and a Sennheiser MM400, will try them after buy (in the store!) and hand them immediately back if there will be a problem with them
Chapell, I have the same problem as you, with the Nokia BH-504 headset. So far the headset works great with the stock ROM, LeeDroid ROMs or just about any Froyo ROM. Gingerbread-based ROMs or Cyanogen nightlies, or any of the AdamG's Oxygen ROMS, on the other hand, they all have the same issue - every 90 seconds or so there is a glitch, the audio stream skips for half a second or so - very, very annoying keeps you from getting in the mood.
My observations: it is not SD card related, youtube video with the audio part streamd through the bluetooth headset also skips (also tried an SD read-ahead zip patch - no change); also, the glitch doesn't manifest using wired headphones; it has nothing to do with CPU spikes (the music player and the BT connection were the only open applications after a fresh ROM install); it has nothing to do with WiFi being on or off; it has nothing to do with 3G/2G network being active or not, or the GPS; using a different radio also doesn't help (scenario - radio X used with N.S.A. ROM -> no glitch; the same radio used with Oxygen 2.0 RC7 -> glitch)...
My guess - as noobish as it may be - is that this issue is related to some kind of buffering in the streaming process - I compared a few bluetooth configuration files in various ROMs, but couldn't figure any setting related to buffering or such.
If anyone could help, I would be very grateful!
Thanks for the info. If I understand correctly, you had no problems with BH-504 using Sense ROMs. So no high frequency distortion, nothing. This means that my phone is definetly faulty
However it seems the non-Sense skips are not unique for me. Strange, no one uses a BT headset with non-Sense ROMs or it could be a problem only with the BH-504?
I had both installed but started to get the force close issue where i couldn't start up anything. I then flashed back to stock ec05 with no root and now my audio sounds very bad through my headphones. It sounds "digitized". Sort of like the headphone aren't all the way in but they are. Headphones that are only stereo sound like that and headphones with a mic sound ok but lack bass and the volume is very very low. Is this a known problem after genocide or cyndicate or did i physically break my phone. Also I like to mention that I do irrigation systems for a living and dirt does get in my pockets so could that be the problem?
Since I've found Voodoo Sound, I've been aware of alternatives, such as PowerAmp. I never did try PowerAmp today, I must say, it does seem to blow Voodoo Sound of the water, not sure if this is just because of the equalizer, or if Voodoo is still a better option, or if its best to have both on.
As I understand it, PowerAmp is just offering a software optimized equalizer giving you that nice virtual experience of good quality music, while Voodoo Sound is supposedly tapping out the potential of the Wolfson Sound's Hardware.
Opinions and clarifications are much appreciated, do share if you know of something better, just spill your thoughts.
Feel free to include the Rom you prefer for music, the apk you prefer fo music, and what tweaks you're using for music, as well as the earphones/headphones you listen in with.
I'm setup this way:
Rom: CM9 Beta 1
Music Apk: Usually Stock CM9 Music, with DSP Manager uninstalled, atm trying PowerAmp though.
Tweaks: I have Voodoo Sound Plus, trying to listen to music with PowerAmp and Voodoo Sound on.
Listening through: In-ear Phones, Sennheiser CX300's.
Edit: *Disclaimer!* this is probably my third thread this year that is a semi-question asking for your opinions as well as general discussion.
To be on the safe side, I posted in Q&A to avoid getting *****ed at.
Shinydude100 said:
Since I've found Voodoo Sound, I've been aware of alternatives, such as PowerAmp. I never did try PowerAmp today, I must say, it does seem to blow Voodoo Sound of the water, not sure if this is just because of the equalizer, or if Voodoo is still a better option, or if its best to have both on.
As I understand it, PowerAmp is just offering a software optimized equalizer giving you that nice virtual experience of good quality music, while Voodoo Sound is supposedly tapping out the potential of the Wolfson Sound's Hardware.
Opinions and clarifications are much appreciated, do share if you know of something better, just spill your thoughts.
Feel free to include the Rom you prefer for music, the apk you prefer fo music, and what tweaks you're using for music, as well as the earphones/headphones you listen in with.
I'm setup this way:
Rom: CM9 Beta 1
Music Apk: Usually Stock CM9 Music, with DSP Manager uninstalled, atm trying PowerAmp though.
Tweaks: I have Voodoo Sound Plus, trying to listen to music with PowerAmp and Voodoo Sound on.
Listening through: In-ear Phones, Sennheiser CX300's.
Edit: *Disclaimer!* this is probably my third thread this year that is a semi-question asking for your opinions as well as general discussion.
To be on the safe side, I posted in Q&A to avoid getting *****ed at.
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Soo what's your question exactly? I use Voodoo Sound and Have Bass Boost on and set to sub bass, also will use Power Amp Eq and top that out so it sounds nice plus having a good set of head phones and all is good, what are you trying to figure out is my question.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Soo what's your question exactly? I use Voodoo Sound and Have Bass Boost on and set to sub bass, also will use Power Amp Eq and top that out so it sounds nice plus having a good set of head phones and all is good, what are you trying to figure out is my question.
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If it's really necessary to have both voodoo control and poweramp or of using both is an overkill, also looking for what others are setup, maybe things they've discovered on each to be better or worse, and what headphone earphones they use.
Hence the title, "voice your preference."
Shinydude100 said:
If it's really necessary to have both voodoo control and poweramp or of using both is an overkill, also looking for what others are setup, maybe things they've discovered on each to be better or worse, and what headphone earphones they use.
Hence the title, "voice your preference."
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its defiantly not an overkill it a helper to make better haha. But Running CM7 and using the Klipsch S4
Did you need to quote the op?.. no... its a given that your answering about the OP just sayin.
I'm not quite an audiophile but do enjoy my clear a crisp music. I'm running cm9b1 with my compiled samurai kernel. I use voodoo sound and have my amplifier "deal" at -5 instead of 10 and on bass boost I have it on standard with the db at 8 and the range at 80%.
I also use equalizer off the market have the paid version so I have one of my profiles in a V the left starts towards the top the 2nd is towards the middle and the middle is just shy of the bottom and the last two are similar to the first two if you catch my drift... it makes a V . Have the same deal on my laptop with beats audio the control is setup in a v like design... seems to be a sweet spot to me. Or at least my ears... I listen to a lot of metalcore.. usually their "screams" or dirty vocals aren't very clear but with setup I can hear it all.. with comprehension.
Oh and I have some 17$ phillips and they sound great.. =] have lasted me almost a year now... much longer than ANY headphones I've ever owned.. usually the part by the jack wears/ shorts out and its time for new ones.... not with these.
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I use poweramp and voodoo sound on cm9.
Why not?
CM9b1
Voodoo sound plus
Neutron Music Player
Earsonics SM3 IEMs
Sometimes Headstage arrow 3G portable amp when I can pry it out of my wife's hands
What you need to understand is that Voodoo Sound Control increases power to the device's built in hardware amplifier. This is where it's at. If you can't tell the sound quality difference between the software and hardware amplifiers, you probably shouldn't even use something like Voodoo Sound Control.
The Galaxy S models are among few devices available that have a configurable hardware amplifier. Typically, the volume rockers on phones control the software amplifier, while the hardware amplifier is locked to a single output. This is probably due to output limitations determined by the manufacturer in order avoid lawsuits involving inner ear damage, in the event of an immediate volume change (we're all familiar with Android's rather mediocre sound control quirks due to hardware fragmentation).
Try this:
- Disable Voodoo sound or set it back to default system values, and disable all sound modifications.
- Plug your phone into your car stereo or home speaker system with the 1/8" jack, and crank the volume on your phone all the way up, using Android's system media volume.
- Then, crank up your stereo. It probably sounds like balls.
Okay, now let's experiment with the hardware amplifier.
- Now back the media volume down a few notches to around 80%.
- Increase Voodoo Sound's amplifier controls to +2db or so, enable Hi-fi play, etc. Keep the media volume at around 80%.
- Turn up the volume on your stereo system again. I will be absolutely damned if you don't notice a difference.
PowerAmp's "pre amp" is just an additional software amplifier "boost." Although handy for increasing the volume on particularly quiet MP3 files, it will cause distortion in the same way any software amplifier will. If anything, you will want to lower "pre amp" a tad if you plan to increase the Android media volume to 100%, but in the end, the resulting distortion will always be proportional the the volume.
Props to the developer for Voodoo Sound. It really changed the way I listen to music. Before I buy my next device, I am going to make sure it will eventually be compatible with Voodoo Sound Control.
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What you need to understand is that Voodoo Sound Control increases power to the device's built in hardware amplifier. This is where it's at. If you can't tell the sound quality difference between the software and hardware amplifiers, you probably shouldn't even use something like Voodoo Sound Control.
The Galaxy S models are among few devices available that have a configurable hardware amplifier. Typically, the volume rockers on phones control the software amplifier, while the hardware amplifier is locked to a single output. This is probably due to output limitations determined by the manufacturer in order avoid lawsuits involving inner ear damage, in the event of an immediate volume change (we're all familiar with Android's rather mediocre sound control quirks due to hardware fragmentation).
Try this:
- Disable Voodoo sound or set it back to default system values, and disable all sound modifications.
- Plug your phone into your car stereo or home speaker system with the 1/8" jack, and crank the volume on your phone all the way up, using Android's system media volume.
- Then, crank up your stereo. It probably sounds like balls.
Okay, now let's experiment with the hardware amplifier.
- Now back the media volume down a few notches to around 80%.
- Increase Voodoo Sound's amplifier controls to +2db or so, enable Hi-fi play, etc. Keep the media volume at around 80%.
- Turn up the volume on your stereo system again. I will be absolutely damned if you don't notice a difference.
PowerAmp's "pre amp" is just an additional software amplifier "boost." Although handy for increasing the volume on particularly quiet MP3 files, it will cause distortion in the same way any software amplifier will. If anything, you will want to lower "pre amp" a tad if you plan to increase the Android media volume to 100%, but in the end, the resulting distortion will always be proportional the the volume.
Props to the developer for Voodoo Sound. It really changed the way I listen to music. Before I buy my next device, I am going to make sure it will eventually be compatible with Voodoo Sound Control.
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This. So much. Thank you for this educated post.
Hardware amplifier > software amplifier.
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I rely on voodoo sound to maximize my overall hardware output, especially getting that lower level ooompf that the phone generally lacks.
This is especially helpful when using a music player without any sound control- most notably Pandora.
Poweramp is my preferred mp3 player app, and has some nice tweaks I can make when I need to- like if a particular mp3 sounds dull I can turn the tone on or adjust the octaves. Overall I usually have the preamp turned up just to get more volume out of the device.
Definitely Max out voodoo. never completely Max out the phone's volume level, doing so causes distortion.
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Equalizer>Poweramp.. just saying works on all sounds on the phone not just the app.... helps make pandora listenable and my mp3's like a studio... or close to my laptop with beats =]
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Of course your going to get a ton of different opinions in this thread, everyones ears hear things different, so instead of arguing or denying what other people hear, I'll just give you my 2 cents.
I use Voodoo AND Poweramp together through a pretty cheap set of Skullcandy Titans listening to predominantly metal/punk/progressive music. Voodoo is mostly used by me to have a more fine tuned volume control, and to reduce/prevent distortion like so many have mentioned earlier. If you notice the stock volume control only has like 9 steps, where Voodoo can go up by 1-2 db at a time. This gives you alot more fine tuning possible with your volume level. I've found stock android steps are either too quiet, or too loud once I bump it a notch...
Oh and then theres the poweramp side, I just have always loved poweramp, even been a fanboy. Since the days of Android Music players where NOBODY had an EQ I've been using it with great success. I've tried the stock music player/EQ, PlayerPro, as well as 5-6 others I've only kept for a day or two, and my ears always take my back to poweramp. Other music players may tout the same features, but to me Poweramp just sounds better to ME personally. My best buddy has the same phone, same rom setup, and prefers Voodoo and stock music player though... again it's just a matter of what your ears like to hear.
glen_e said:
What you need to understand is that Voodoo Sound Control increases power to the device's built in hardware amplifier. This is where it's at. If you can't tell the sound quality difference between the software and hardware amplifiers, you probably shouldn't even use something like Voodoo Sound Control.
The Galaxy S models are among few devices available that have a configurable hardware amplifier. Typically, the volume rockers on phones control the software amplifier, while the hardware amplifier is locked to a single output. This is probably due to output limitations determined by the manufacturer in order avoid lawsuits involving inner ear damage, in the event of an immediate volume change (we're all familiar with Android's rather mediocre sound control quirks due to hardware fragmentation).
Try this:
- Disable Voodoo sound or set it back to default system values, and disable all sound modifications.
- Plug your phone into your car stereo or home speaker system with the 1/8" jack, and crank the volume on your phone all the way up, using Android's system media volume.
- Then, crank up your stereo. It probably sounds like balls.
Okay, now let's experiment with the hardware amplifier.
- Now back the media volume down a few notches to around 80%.
- Increase Voodoo Sound's amplifier controls to +2db or so, enable Hi-fi play, etc. Keep the media volume at around 80%.
- Turn up the volume on your stereo system again. I will be absolutely damned if you don't notice a difference.
PowerAmp's "pre amp" is just an additional software amplifier "boost." Although handy for increasing the volume on particularly quiet MP3 files, it will cause distortion in the same way any software amplifier will. If anything, you will want to lower "pre amp" a tad if you plan to increase the Android media volume to 100%, but in the end, the resulting distortion will always be proportional the the volume.
Props to the developer for Voodoo Sound. It really changed the way I listen to music. Before I buy my next device, I am going to make sure it will eventually be compatible with Voodoo Sound Control.
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Oh no, trust me, I do know what Voodoo Sound does, I did need a post like yours to confirm my speculation on Hardware Amp > Software Amp though. So far, after reading everyone's replies, I think I'm going to definitely continue to primarily use Voodoo Sound, and use an equalizer off the market, or poweramp's equalizer. Thank you all for taking the time to voice your setups and preferences. Much appreciated!
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Love the info this thread has provided, I have a pair of creative aurvana neodinium DJ headphones and without voodoo control they are generally too quiet to enjoy, however without proper EQ's I cannot listen to certain artists (kid cudi) without hearing craclkes and pops due to the limitations of the neodinium speakers.
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Love the info this thread has provided, I have a pair of creative aurvana neodinium DJ headphones and without voodoo control they are generally too quiet to enjoy, however without proper EQ's I cannot listen to certain artists (kid cudi) without hearing craclkes and pops due to the limitations of the neodinium speakers.
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Try messing with miui equalizer settings I have a great set up
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Cm9b1....run voodoo plus. Set of shure ec2's, a pretty ok car system, and a polk studio speaker home system with a nice denon amp. I think I killed my hearing back in high school, but I've realized now that a "clean" or pure source makes the best sound for me. I can't hear minute differences that well but I CAN usually tell.....good to bad. My old crappy mp3 player with cheap headphones compared to my epic with the shure's is obvious. But I can't really tell you why
I do need to do that software/hardware comparison though. And I've never used poweramp.....ill have to try it.
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Neutron + Voodoo Sound + Galaxy S + AKG 319
I actually usually turn my phone media volume to 100% and leave voodoo at -2db, ill try turning down my media and turning up voodoo
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Ok, I've read of 1-2 other people who've had this same issue. Tried contacting them with no results.
Issue: When on a BT call in my car, the person on the other line hears themselves speaking...i.e. echo. If I mute the microphone on my phone, it goes away...but obviously they can't hear me.
ROMs tried: Calk's v1.4 and AOKP Milestone 5. Flashed both twice; tried method of going to ODIN and loading stock EL29, rooting, adding CWM, then going to CM7.2 as well as the stock to EL26 and then flashing. Cleared data/cache/delvik cache multiple times.
Went back to EL29 stock and works great.
Any ideas of what I could do to fix? Really liked AOKP.
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Ok, I've read of 1-2 other people who've had this same issue. Tried contacting them with no results.
Issue: When on a BT call in my car, the person on the other line hears themselves speaking...i.e. echo. If I mute the microphone on my phone, it goes away...but obviously they can't hear me.
ROMs tried: Calk's v1.4 and AOKP Milestone 5. Flashed both twice; tried method of going to ODIN and loading stock EL29, rooting, adding CWM, then going to CM7.2 as well as the stock to EL26 and then flashing. Cleared data/cache/delvik cache multiple times.
Went back to EL29 stock and works great.
Any ideas of what I could do to fix? Really liked AOKP.
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My girlfriend complained about the same issue with my phone, and my "fix" was to lower the BT volume on the device, and max out the volume in the car, and she said the echo was gone.
If I did that I'd go deaf with the hang up beep in my car.
Glad to hear it's a little more widespread than I thought. Hopefully this gets fixed with newer releases of ICS.
Ok, going to ask what's most likely a stupid conceptual question:
For both my Calk's ICS 1.4 and the AOKP Milestone 5 installs I followed qbking's video's to the letter.
Now, to the best of my understanding, this ROMs come packed with a kernel such as FD26. However, you can load different kernel's such as the new FE07 which could very well affect my BT and potentially fix it (or not...)
So, to flash a new kernel, I'd have to use ODIN to install the EL26+CWM to get back to a GB recovery. From there I flash the new kernel, then reflash the ICS ROM.
Here's what I don't get...if the ROM comes packed with say the FD26 kernel, won't that overwrite the FE07 (or whatever) kernel I just flashed? What am I missing here?
Thanks!!! Really trying to see if my BT issue is something I can fix. Want AOKP back again, bad!!
chadillac3 said:
If I did that I'd go deaf with the hang up beep in my car.
Glad to hear it's a little more widespread than I thought. Hopefully this gets fixed with newer releases of ICS.
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Lol...it won't be so loud, at least, not for me it isn't.
I'm an over the road truck driver and the only time I experience this is if I, or the person I'm talking to is in a really poor service area, i.e. South Carolina anywhere on I-95. Other than that I never have echo, & I'm on the phone for hours & hundreds of miles at a time spanning multiple states.
So it's not a ROM problem, kernel or modem related maybe, but I'm usually running the latest modem & kernel & have been on Team Nocturnal's ICS Blend "The Goodness" since about version 1.5, we're on version 8.0 right now. That would lead me to believe it's also not kernel or modem related
Fwiw, I use a Blue Parrot BT250-XT+, or Planatronics BB903, or a Blue Parrot VXi2 Expressway.
Sent from my E4GT packed full of "The Goodness" of TNz Blend ICS on Tapatalk 2 Pro
So you're not using a vehicle's BT system but rather an earpiece?
The earpiece would not be an issue as the issue is the microphone on the phone is still on. So, over a car's stereo system it's plenty loud enough to feed into the phone. In a BT earpiece there wouldn't be enough volume to cause a problem.
I have not noticed this with any ics leak and my car built in bluetooth. My only complaint about bluetooth is that the volume is too low when streaming audio.
I know of three people from my searching who did...one person said they went to the latest version of CM9 and that fixed it...going to try this weekend.
chadillac3 said:
So you're not using a vehicle's BT system but rather an earpiece?
The earpiece would not be an issue as the issue is the microphone on the phone is still on. So, over a car's stereo system it's plenty loud enough to feed into the phone. In a BT earpiece there wouldn't be enough volume to cause a problem.
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I was using a vehicle one, that I installed myself.
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113BT300/Kenwood-KCA-BT300.html paired with http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113DDX512/Kenwood-DDX512.html?search=ddx512&tp=20217
I reduced the echo by lowering the BT volume during the call on the handset, and raising the volume on the car receiver.
I know, I know the thread title is BT echo with ICS ROMs...I am not running ICS, but for what it's worth, same issue here often, though NOT every call... I am running completely stock (still GB 2.3.6). Phone BT is paired with Motorola T215 that's clipped to the visor in my truck. ...and for me also, turning down the volume down a notch or two helps...In my case, I was actually thinking it is a feedback issue, where the other person hears their voice picked back up through the mic...that's why turning down the mic helps (or why they don't hear it when the mic is on mute)...
That would probably help, but what's weird is that adjusting the handset volume doesn't seem to affect my BT volume...at all.
I've always assumed it had to do with the BT module on the car.
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That would probably help, but what's weird is that adjusting the handset volume doesn't seem to affect my BT volume...at all.
I've always assumed it had to do with the BT module on the car.
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Really? That's weird. In my car, adjusting the handset volume affects the system volume coming out of the speakers.
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That would probably help, but what's weird is that adjusting the handset volume doesn't seem to affect my BT volume...at all.
I've always assumed it had to do with the BT module on the car.
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When I press the volume on the BT module, the phone will display "Bluetooth In-Call Volume" and adjust accordingly. Conversely, the phone will display the same when pressing the volume on the phone during a call. It could be relative to your BT module - if I understand correctly the BT module needs the Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) - as what allows for volume control via BT (as well as the play,pause,etc. on music over BT). Does your device support it?
I also found that if I slightly lower the visor, the sound doesn't "bounce" off the roof of the truck and helps not create echo as often, so I can turn the BT module volume up higher, if need be.
Just an FYI - when I used to plug a line from the headphone out from my HTC Hero to the truck stereo aux in , I would use the truck's speakers and the phone's mic...but there would definitely be echo issues if I cranked up the volume on the stereo...which of course let me to believe the similar issue occurs with my BT device and the phone itself because the mic is close to the speakers on the BT device.
Yep, module is AVRCP 1.3 compatible...which is part of the reason I like AOKP. Bitpool on the BT is set much higher than stock, and the metadata is transferred correctly. Everything is wonderful except for the damn echo.
What's weird is stock works totally fine; AOKP M5 had the echo, and Calk's 1.4 had an echo and static per my parents on their ground line and their ET4Gs. Wife's iPhone didn't seem to have the issue, so I wonder if it had processing built in to cut out the echo.
Going to try the latest versions of the ROMs to see if it magically fixes it.
Hi, only recently, when i plug-in my headphones, the audio comes out with lots of hisses, cracks and glitched sounds.
Every sound generated by the phone (ring tone, phone call, mp3, notifications) is accompained by random noises.
This happened only recently and I cannot figure out what the cause can be. Headphones are the same as always.
The problem doesn't occur when playing sounds trough the built-in speaker.
I tried to install different roms and revert back to stock, but the problem persist.
I guess now this will be a hardware issue?
Try googling it its one of the most common lg g3 problems temp fixes include restarts factory resets and if im not mistaken a diffrent kinda headphone with a slighlty differ plug its most def in the hardware
It's a problem with low impedance headphones. What worked for me was editing the mixer_paths.xml.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/crackling-hissing-sound-headphone-jack-t3131323/