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hey guys,
I am a happy owner of the new HTC DHD (about 5 days now and never had problems like the sensor) and I love to listen to music on my phone, but when you listen you (kinda must) choose between SRS and Dolby mobile. I don't know what tecnical is better but (on the standard htc earphones) I like the SRS more (it's has more bass in my oppinion) but I was wondering what you guys think of it.
greetz, niels
(keep up the good work on developing!!)
Not using the bundled headphones but SRS is definitely my preference!!
If it sounds better with either of those on than just stock with no EQ, its sound quality must be truly terrible, and I'll await the GSMarena review with interest for objective measures.
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If it sounds better with either of those on than just stock with no EQ, its sound quality must be truly terrible, and I'll await the GSMarena review with interest for objective measures.
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I have to be honest and say that I was surprised at how poor the 'stock' sound quality was considering the marketing spiel regarding the Dolby/SRS enhancements. My cynical mind led me to the thought they purposely left the standard sound so unrefined as to make you laud the qualities of the Dolby/SRS enhancements!
i never used the stock earbuds but i can say for sure that with dolby mobile my music (hardstyle) sounds a lot better, i have really great bass!!
Are the headphones that come with it better than iphone/ipod headphones?
I'm don't want to walk around in public with my Sennheiser HD555s
I may have overstated the lack of quality of the enhancement free playback setting, tried it out a little longer today and it's not that bad. Guess listening to the enhanced sound constantly made it seem that way!
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If it sounds better with either of those on than just stock with no EQ, its sound quality must be truly terrible, and I'll await the GSMarena review with interest for objective measures.
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**Mod edit - insulting content removed***The sound quality with SRS on is EXCELLENT, the other modes are quite rubbish. I'm using Sennheiser HD 555's with a Auzentech Forte 7.1 soundcard with a very good headphone amplifier and the quality on DHD with SRS on is comparable to the computer, even when playing FLAC files.
E: Only with max volume the DHD clearly lacks the required power output to run the Sennheisers, but at that level you're seriously risking your ability to hear so it is quite sufficient in overall.
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**Mod edit - insulting content removed***The sound quality with SRS on is EXCELLENT...
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Ahum... I use the Shure SE 500 series - in my opinion the best earphone on the market today - but I have to say that SRS Wow HD (like Dolby) on the DHD is not an option for me. Although I like the surround effect, the bass is way (and I mean way) to loud. Pitty that there's not an option to change the bass setting (like there was/is on the good old WinMo devices).
I think SRS and Dolby really aren't an option for head- or earphones with a pronounced bass. HTC should look into this. The SRS/Dolby option on their WP 7 devices has the same problem btw.
For me the only option is the EQ ...
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Ahum... I use the Shure SE 500 series - in my opinion the best earphone on the market today - but I have to say that SRS Wow HD (like Dolby) on the DHD is not an option for me. Although I like the surround effect, the bass is way (and I mean way) to loud. Pitty that there's not an option to change the bass setting (like there was/is on the good old WinMo devices).
I think SRS and Dolby really aren't an option for head- or earphones with a pronounced bass. HTC should look into this. The SRS/Dolby option on their WP 7 devices has the same problem btw.
For me the only option is the EQ ...
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Yeah the DHD could use an EQ while SRS is enabled, but that doesn't change the fact that with my HD 555's the quality is excellent. The HD 555's have a very neutral sound so I think they are quite good for comparing amplifiers. Maybe SRS on the DHD originally outputs way more bass than it should, but on my headphones it sounds perfect, possibly because not enough power is output from the phone to make that over loud bass. I mean surely a fine headset requires way more power to run than two earplugs.
If HTC adds an EQ while SRS is enabled it will be perfect, but even if I don't it's still perfect for _me_.
I got SRS on, it has the most bass in my opinion, I use the Apple earphones for it.
I mostly listen Hardstyle, euro/harddance, and music like coldplay on my DHD, and SRS is definitely the best! my earphones even vibrate of the bass lol
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You should just shut up when you don't know what you're talking about. The sound quality with SRS on is EXCELLENT, the other modes are quite rubbish. I'm using Sennheiser HD 555's with a Auzentech Forte 7.1 soundcard with a very good headphone amplifier and the quality on DHD with SRS on is comparable to the computer, even when playing FLAC files. So please, just be quiet when you clearly don't know anything about it.
E: Only with max volume the DHD clearly lacks the required power output to run the Sennheisers, but at that level you're seriously risking your ability to hear so it is quite sufficient in overall.
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Wow, you're really aggressive and rude. You might want to check that attitude if you plan on being a member of the community here for any length of time.
I prefer the SRS over the Dolby Mobile, but I don't really like either that much.
The Dolby does some really weird things that make music sound completely different and artificial. It does wonders for bass, but at the risk of completely distorting the rest of the sound (particularly vocals).
SRS is a good "enhancer" of sound, but again it alters the music in a way I'm not really comfortable with.
Much prefer the Equaliser at this point.
Really like the Dolby Mobile because at the moment there are no seperate enhancements that match the atmospheric enhancements this gives when watching films or music Gives it depth IMO)
Still waiting for an Android Dev to attempt to transfer over Sony's "MegaBass" or "Clear Bass" enhancements.
my friend says SRS for music, Dolby for videos.
i tried both, and honestly they give unrealistic sound imo. i keep them off.
SRS is best for music
Umm where can I find these settings? Looked all over my phone, sorry for been noob!
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power amp is the way forward
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power amp is the way forward
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Maybe you can help me out here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867053
The question I have is specific to the Bass Boost feature.
When raising the level on the Bass Boost setting, shouldn't it increase the bass and not decrease it? .. I would think that using it in conjunction with the equalizer would yield awesome results but it just completely blows.
I've tried several options, Music FX (stock), Equalizer, Volume+ and DSPManager.
All act the same.
I come from a Nexus One where I used DSPManager through CM7 roms. The bass boost setting would actually BOOST the bass. Now, it just seems to lower the sound output level and doesn't really affect the bass in anyway at all.
I'm sure Im not the only one who sees this problem.
Is tehre a fix for this or is there something that I can do to help with this?
Please chime in with your comments.
thanks,
cchhat01
from what i read, bass boost doesnt work on ICS (yet)
....of course i could be wrong
volume+ bass boost works wonders
Boosting the bass ruins the sound. And I gotta tip my hat to TI for how awesome their sound chip is.
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English is not my native language.
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The question I have is specific to the Bass Boost feature.
When raising the level on the Bass Boost setting, shouldn't it increase the bass and not decrease it? .. I would think that using it in conjunction with the equalizer would yield awesome results but it just completely blows.
I've tried several options, Music FX (stock), Equalizer, Volume+ and DSPManager.
All act the same.
I come from a Nexus One where I used DSPManager through CM7 roms. The bass boost setting would actually BOOST the bass. Now, it just seems to lower the sound output level and doesn't really affect the bass in anyway at all.
I'm sure Im not the only one who sees this problem.
Is tehre a fix for this or is there something that I can do to help with this?
Please chime in with your comments.
thanks,
cchhat01
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ICS Music player has some problems, Bass Boost is one of them. It is working in reverse and the higher you put it up the more bass it cuts off. Don't use it if you need more bass.
Install another player with more control over EQ, bass, treble and cross bleed (poweramp, for example). I have been testing different players with some audiophiles and we are very impressed with the Galaxy Nexus! No noise or hiss.
Supercurio tested the Galaxy Nexus with analog headphone amp gain and it became totally black even with very sensitive in-ears!
i use volume+ with poweramp and it's awesome makes my $10 earphones sound like a $300 pair
supercurio's Voodoo sound not supported yet?
English is not my native language.
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supercurio's Voodoo sound not supported yet?
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Not yet. The Galaxy Nexus uses a chip from Texas Instruments and Voodoo uses the Wolfson Audio.
The Supercurio dev got a Galaxy Nexus and he's working on it.
From Supercurio:
[email protected] Yes after study I can tell #GalaxyNexus will receive some #VoodooSound improvements. Screen: not studied enough yet.
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Not yet. The Galaxy Nexus uses a chip from Texas Instruments and Voodoo uses the Wolfson Audio.
The Supercurio dev got a Galaxy Nexus and he's working on it.
From Supercurio:
[email protected] Yes after study I can tell #GalaxyNexus will receive some #VoodooSound improvements. Screen: not studied enough yet.
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I am not sure I need voodoo...seriously though,I totally lived on voodoo on my galaxy s and my transformer ,but the galaxy nexus sound chip blows everything out of the water....I fall in love with it and my klipsch s4 every morning!
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I am not sure I need voodoo...seriously though,I totally lived on voodoo on my galaxy s and my transformer ,but the galaxy nexus sound chip blows everything out of the water....I fall in love with it and my klipsch s4 every morning!
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I completely agree.
The Galaxy Nexus is a superb audiophile phone. When I plug my sennheisers and touch the play button (Poweramp, of course), the only thing I can say is WOW!
Not sure I agree with it being an audiophile phone, but it gets by. If you really want better bass, buy an external headphone amplifier (under $40) with a bass boost circuit. This may be more than some headphones can handles depending on the material. You can do lots with the built-in EQ on Winamp and Poweramp, though.
As most of you might already know the GN uses the TWL6040 DAC. It's performance is very good but it could be better. It can't compete with VoodooSound found on the Nexus S.
While we are awaiting for sound improvements from Supercurio, the awesome developer of VoodooSound, you guys might wanna check this app out.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skvalex.alsamixer&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5za3ZhbGV4LmFsc2FtaXhlciJd
ROOT and BUSYBOX Required!!!
I did not develop this app. so credits go to skvalex - the developer of this app.
For those of you that don't know what a AlsaMixer is - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsamixer
Once you install the app. open it and scroll down to TWL6040 Power Mode
and write High-Performance in the box then hit OK.
To increase the Headphone volume scroll down to Headset and write in the box 14 or 15 depending how loud you want it.
Also these volume settings seem to revert to the original once you pause the music so increase the volume while playing music and enjoy.
Would appreciate any input on how to make these setting stick.
Thank you for telling us about this but does this app actually make the sound better and not just louder?
My Galaxy S with voodoo sound really made the bass and other sings 1000 x better.
My Galaxy Nexus has NO bass at ALL.
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Thank you for telling us about this but does this app actually make the sound better and not just louder?
My Galaxy S with voodoo sound really made the bass and other sings 1000 x better.
My Galaxy Nexus has NO bass at ALL.
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Going from Low-Power to High-Performance should definitely increase the sound quality.
As far as Bass is concerned you are free to use the built-in software EQ. It's not as good as supercurio's hardware Bass implementation but it's all we have. Also there is DSP manager from CyanogenMod 9.
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Going from Low-Power to High-Performance should definitely increase the sound quality.
As far as Bass is concerned you are free to use the built-in software EQ. It's not as good as supercurio's hardware Bass implementation but it's all we have. Also there is DSP manager from CyanogenMod 9.
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Alright thanks!
if this app really increase the sound, then we should analyse what it does and include the changes in a rom
or are there already some roms that include the changes made by the app
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My Galaxy Nexus has NO bass at ALL.
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The bass from my Nexus is making me deaf, I kid you not.
Using DSP manager and a pair Klipsch X10, I'm getting insane bass.
Hmmm well headset level 14 seems to be exactly the same as stock and 15 does increase it a bit but can't compete with voodoo sound.
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How does this compare in just using Volume+ ?
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Hmmm well headset level 14 seems to be exactly the same as stock and 15 does increase it a bit but can't compete with voodoo sound.
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I'm not sure what headphones are you using but for me 14 is definitely louder then stock while 15 would probably damage my ear drums
What setting makes it increase the speaker volume?
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What setting makes it increase the speaker volume?
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Haven't tried for speaker. Still looking into it.
I think Volume+ is the best...actually makes the speaker louder and higher quality depending on the settings used. I'll try this to see how it is though.
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Beautiful, really just wanted the HP mode from voodoo anyway.
Very-high dynamic range of 104 dBA is achieved when using the system clock input and DAC path high-performance (HP) mode.
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I'm not sure what headphones are you using but for me 14 is definitely louder then stock while 15 would probably damage my ear drums
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I guess you've never used voodoo sound. Probably shouldn't bother then since you think this can damage your ear drums. I use Klipsch image S4A headphones. My Fascinate is the only thing that can put them to their limit.
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Beautiful, really just wanted the HP mode from voodoo anyway.
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WHat do you mean and whats dynamic range?
Zacisblack said:
I guess you've never used voodoo sound. Probably shouldn't bother then since you think this can damage your ear drums. I use Klipsch image S4A headphones. My Fascinate is the only thing that can put them to their limit.
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You're kidding! I barely decided to upgrade from my Nexus S with VoodooSound cause I didn't know how the Galaxy Nexus would sound. On my (late) Nexus S I never increased the VoodooSound HP Amp past 0 dB. And the GN set to 15 it's past that.
How loud do you want it?
I think stock is below level 10. And level 11 is comfortably loud enough for me (using Sony NUDE-EX earbuds). 14 is 15 are insane levels for sure, but probably necessary with big-ass power-hungry headphones.
Thanks MFire for the tip. This indeed a good experiment that shows the potential of our device. This means supercurio might help us out here for a permanent fix (I hope so)
Overall, I find the external speaker is the one that needs alot more improvement rather than the headset.
This really confuses me...the whole voodoo sound thing.
So, I've worked for year for a company that produces DACs for audiophiles and professionals.
What you want in a DAC is for the audio to be EXACTLY the same as what was recorded. You want bit transparency, and you want the music to sound exactly as the musician intended it to be.
Adding in DSPs, and adding "more bass" pollutes the sound if you ask me. Is that what voodoo is doing??
The default for headphone is '9', it tells you when you want to change it.
Thanks for the find though! This would have to do until Voodo Sound comes, only if it has set on boot that would be perfect.
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This really confuses me...the whole voodoo sound thing.
So, I've worked for year for a company that produces DACs for audiophiles and professionals.
What you want in a DAC is for the audio to be EXACTLY the same as what was recorded. You want bit transparency, and you want the music to sound exactly as the musician intended it to be.
Adding in DSPs, and adding "more bass" pollutes the sound if you ask me. Is that what voodoo is doing??
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NO! That's not what Voodoo is doing. It bypasses the Samsung drivers to assure the sound comes directly from the DAC. The bass thing is just off topic, we're looking for the clean sound that you described .
Hi everyone!
I feel the need to create a post here as my mail & twitter accounts are filled with "Please support Galaxy Nexus" requests, pressuring me everyday.
My goal here is not to generate expectations or start teasing but to give answers I can give.
So!
What I'll do and what I'll not do on Galaxy Nexus:
Won't do:
Voodoo Sound:
Yea, I know, I said a few weeks ago I might add Galaxy Nexus in Voodoo sound but eventually that won't be the case for several reasons.
- Galaxy Nexus audio quality potential is good but not quite as good as what I target.
- Galaxy Nexus audio codec, TI TWL6040 has no DSP, which means:
Parametric EQ
Stereo enhancements
Advanced recording presets using Dynamic Range Compression
Using hardware: those cannot be done.
Its the signature and exclusive features of Voodoo Sound and what matters to me.
I know devices with WM8994 tend to become old compared to the latest generation but I don't care.
Sound quality stay just as excellent and class-leading, that's what's important no matter how many new devices are released each week.
Will do:
Voodoo LOUDER:
That's why I created this different app, in order to host useful audio mods/hacks even if they don't reach the quality and features I require for Voodoo Sound.
Things I'll implement here:
- Analog headphone amplifier control, with perfect OS integration and automatic optimal setup for the best audio quality results.
If there are a few dB left to squeeze at maximum output level, the biggest interest here is the opposite: with optimizations for sensitive headphones & in-ear.
I'll implement a few more things but you'll see it by yourself.
Where there will be no compromise, its about usability, seamless experience, automatic optimal settings and most importantly no custom kernel requirements (only root)
This is why it require more work (and more time) than random hacks but eventually its of course worth it as I'm sure it will become one of the app you'll use daily.
Wi-fi screen-off fix:
Wi-fi is terrible with several routers (loosing every packet as soon as the screen turns off) and that has to be fixed.
I started working on it as well but as usual, I target a patching & flashing free solution.
Too soon to comment:
Screen color rendering customization and calibration − long term project unifying most Super AMOLED and LCD Samsung flagships.
General
- no ETA. It's done when it's done.
- Don't count on anything before it's actually released. Some part can be very challenging due to constrains (compatibility, no flashing) and might be impossible, or possible, or take months.. I'm sure you see what I mean
I say that because if the devs I try to publish look like simple apps, they depend on crazy hacks, doing things not how it was supposed to. So there's always research and challenges behind and it the outcome can be better but also worse than expected.
Thank you! Voodoo louder has definitely made my Galaxy S II sound better. Can't wait
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I'm pretty stoked to see where this goes!
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thanks! the galaxy nexus desperately needs a volume boost and a screen mod.
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thanks! the galaxy nexus desperately needs a volume boost.
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You're asking about speaker or earpiece during call, right?
Because in its stock configuration it already has one of the loudest headphone output level on market.
OMG! Supercurio, I love you!!!!
you made it in the SGS..., now with GNEX... thanks for your job and your time...
mmm voodoo color for GNEX please... IMO is very needed like in the SGS
best regards
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You're asking about speaker or earpiece during call, right?
Because in its stock configuration it already has one of the loudest headphone output level on market.
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headphone out, bluetooth and earpiece are fine, its the speaker that's lacking. my lg optimus p500 is louder, im using volume+ right now to make the speaker louder but even with the max volume boost it not even as loud as my Atrix without any mods.
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If there are a few dB left to squeeze at maximum output level, the biggest interest here is the opposite: with optimizations for sensitive headphones & in-ear.
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Yes! Exactly what I need! Hate relying on stupid software eq to tune down the overly high volume!
Thanks in advance.
I will be following this very closely! Thank you Francois.
Swyped from my Galaxy Nexus
This has made my day. We really appreciate you supercurio! I dont care what you charge for another voodoo app. I'm here to support your work so make the price worth your hard work
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No DSP! Seriously! Texas Instruments were the first (ever) to produce a DSP and the didn't implement one in their OMAP 4 platform? I find that hard to believe.
What I most miss from the Nexus S with VoodooSound is the awesome stereo crosstalk. I don't suppose you can do something about that...
Other then that the TWL6040 is already pretty damn good IMO.
We appreciate your work and hope for further releases.
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headphone out, bluetooth and earpiece are fine, its the speaker that's lacking. my lg optimus p500 is louder, im using volume+ right now to make the speaker louder but even with the max volume boost it not even as loud as my Atrix without any mods.
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I quote any word. Headphone is very low. i'm using volume+ at 15 level, but even with this dangerous level call, media audio is not even as loud as other devices.
Supercurio for me you must concentrate on headphone.
Thanks for you work
Hope to use soon this mod.
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Yesssssssssssssss
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I quote any word. Headphone is very low. i'm using volume+ at 15 level, but even with this dangerous level call, media audio is not even as loud as other devices.
Supercurio for me you must concentrate on headphone.
Thanks for you work
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i am using aokp and headphone output is very high.. listening at only 1/4 volume with my westones.
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i am using aokp and headphone output is very high.. listening at only 1/4 volume with my westones.
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Even 1 bar of volume is too loud with my westone
Thanks !
I never hear my ringtone in my pocket, and shakes either with my GN.
Thanks Supercurio! Especially excited about the wifi fix, that's about the only thing that's really bothering me. Glad to hear you're working on a fix! Good luck with it all...
On my Fascinate I could use DSPManager to mess with the sound effects when streaming bluetooth audio.
Will that not be possible on my GNex? If so, HUGE bummer. Im not sure if that had anything to do with Voodoo Sound on the Fasci or if DSPManager just isnt working correctly in ICS yet.
Thanks.
-Chris
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I second that!
Because of the ridiculously loud volume, I am still carrying my Cowon with me every day.
Just came from the S3 and loving this phone .....except for the audio. The sound is a bit boomy and not as crisp as the S3. Tried DSP enhancements on Player Pro but no good.
Are there any software mods or apps without root to improve the audio quality?
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Acid mod!
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sandshrimp said:
Just came from the S3 and loving this phone .....except for the audio. The sound is a bit boomy and not as crisp as the S3. Tried DSP enhancements on Player Pro but no good.
Are there any software mods or apps without root to improve the audio quality?
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^^Acid mod
dsp manager
beats audio
or try a market app called music volume eq
that my frnd actually works
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^^Acid mod
dsp manager
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or try a market app called music volume eq
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Starting the rooting process. Will try those mods. Just hope its not a hardware issue.
Thanks
Just installed the Beats Mod off the market and it helps tremendously.
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He wants crispness, not artificially added bass that distorts the actual music. Stop recommending beats for clarity. I can't believe how horribly marketed Bests is to the point where people actually believe it produces studio quality sounds. If anything, Bests will make the sound even MORE boomy, which OP says he doesn't want.
OP, have you tried Poweramp? Its a great music player, I find the EQ adjustments there to be better than DPS manager. You can use some of the presets if you don't want to manually adjust them.
What headphones are you using? It helps to know what you have this connected to; the clarity issue may be there.
I don't use my phone to listen to music, but I haven't had any clarity issues the times I decided to test some songs on it here and there. I already have a Rockboxed Sansa clip that's portable enough that I don't particularly care about saving space by having my phone play music as well.
Acid mod causes a few problems with audio. At least the one I flashed. It made my speakerphone button during calls mute them even after ending them and a reboot was required. I feel it might have been the build.prop edits causing this but I didn't bother checking.
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He wants crispness, not artificially added bass that distorts the actual music. Stop recommending beats for clarity. I can't believe how horribly marketed Bests is to the point where people actually believe it produces studio quality sounds. If anything, Bests will make the sound even MORE boomy, which OP says he doesn't want.
OP, have you tried Poweramp? Its a great music player, I find the amp adjustments there to be better than DPS manager. You can use some of the presets if you don't want to manually adjust them.
What headphones are you using? It helps to know what you have this connected to; the clarity issue may be there.
I don't use my phone to music, but I haven't had any clarity issues the times I decided to test some songs on it here and there. I already have a Rockboxed Sansa clip that's portable enough that I don't particularly care about saving space by having my phone play music as well.
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See the thing is, its my OPINION!! I can recommend Beats but he does NOT have to use it. In MY phone it produces a really good quality without too much bass. Some speakers in some phones may be different. Sorry for touching a nerve on the Beats mod but its an opinion.
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Doing some research for you, I'll test out a little myself. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noozxoidelabs.eizo.rewirepro&hl=en Noozcoidelabs seems pretty decent so far, but you may need a lot of adjusting to get it to sound the way you want it to. I'll test it a little more and give you my opinion on it.
Looking more into it, does anyone know what Beats audio mod actually does to the sound? I was under the assumption and previously saw it simply slapped on a pre EQ'd sound signature that gave the overly bassy sound the Beats headphones give out; but looking into it, it doesn't seem like anyone is really sure what it does other than "makes things sound better"
Anyone know what it actually tweaks? From a technical standpoint. If it's not just an EQ slapped onto your sound system-wide then I'm not sure what it's doing. I can try it myself to test how it sounds, but I'm skeptical due to Beats being notoriously bass heavy and the marketing technique being to throw out buzz words and use celebrities to give the illusion to ill informed customers that you're actually getting the best quality you can find for you cash. They do spent a lot in designing things to look pretty though.
Spoiler: Monster is the company that makes Beats, that same company that tried to sell you $100 4 foot HDMI cables back when HDTVs were coming out and becoming more affordable. They always do this kind of marketing to lure in suckers to buying their overpriced products that don't actually give the quality people are marketed to believe.
Edit: Still testing Noozxoide, it does a lot for sound stage, and clarity. Setting the Surrouundsound ES Processor to the highest levels makes it a bit off, but picking Studio or Studio II works just fine for it. Don't go too wild with the tweaks, keeping them at moderate seems to give the best results. I'm still tweaking around with it.
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See the thing is, its my OPINION!! I can recommend Beats but he does NOT have to use it. In MY phone it produces a really good quality without too much bass. Some speakers in some phones may be different. Sorry for touching a nerve on the Beats mod but its an opinion.
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It's nice to have an opinion, but looking at it from a technical standpoint the sound produced from it can still be inferior even if you think it isn't. I'm sorry I touched a nerve on your opinion by trying to give the OP advice from a non-opinionated standpoint. Regardless if someone thinks a pair of $300 Beats cans offers the best sound; looking at the specs it's easy to see that they're outperformed by headphones that are at a fraction of their price.
If the OP asked for a sweet gaming rig and you told him to get a horrible GPU that would have difficulty handling many modern games; and said "well it worked for me, and the games look just fine to me" that'd be accurate as an opinion, but it wouldn't be accurate from a technical standpoint at all. You may find the 9 FPS to be better than the 60 FPS he'd get elsewhere, but it doesn't mean that it's a good recommendation. If I went against your recommendation, pointed out the flaw in why it was a bad recommendation, and then provided an alternative that would better suit his needs, it'd be pointless to backlash at me. Telling him your pre-built Dell works wonders for you in your gaming endeavors doesn't help lead him in the right direction if it isn't what he's looking for.
Of course he doesn't have to use it, but if he's asking what to use and everyone is telling him the same thing; of course he's going to give it a shot. I'm trying to save him some time by giving him insight into alternatives. If he asks what my alternatives do, I'll give him specific details so he can come up to a conclusion on his own.
Your speakers on your phone? Are you using your phone speakers to listen to music? I'm pretty sure the manufacturer is using the same speakers on all of our phones if we're all using the Sprint LGOG. Are you using the Sprint LGOG? That aside, you're most likely not going to get good music quality from the built in speakers regardless of what tweaks you do.
Although I did more research on the Beats audio mod after my post. It doesn't modify sound in the way I previously believed it did, but at the same time I don't know how it modifies sound, so I for now I'll withhold any thoughts on it since anything I say about it at this point will be opinionated. If it really did just throw in the Beats EQ signature system wide, then even if you think it sounds more clear, it wouldn't be more clear. Since it doesn't, I have no idea if what it does actually does improve sound quality anymore. Given Dr.Dre's previous track record with audio "enhancement," I'm skeptical to even give it a shot. If I learn what it actually does and how, I'd be able to provide better insight into it. I'll do my own individual tests on it after, but for now my focus is elsewhere.
See GPU won't change across the boards, that's invalid. Speakers on the other hand CAN sound different. My wife and I both had brand new iPhone 5's from sprint, my speaker sounded clearly better than hers. The point I'm making is there could be something physically wrong with his speaker because first, the sound quality on mine after using the Beats Mod (not the headphones) is clearly better. Comparing a piece of silicone (gpu) to a physical speaker is not a good comparison. The Adreno 320 are going to perform 99% the same on all the LG Optimus G phones, the speaker may vary upwards to 15-20% difference from what I've gathered by comparing a few of our phones.
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Regardless, we gave our advice for the OP and we should quit before this turns into a flame war. I recommended Beats because it didn't just add bass and you said to stay away from Beats because of their popularity and the fact that they are too marketed and overpriced (which has nothing to do with the mod). But goodluck OP and try a few different mods.
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the speaker may vary upwards to 15-20% difference from what I've gathered by comparing a few of our phones.
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I can't imagine what would cause such a discrepancy if LG is using the same hardware in all of their phones. The only thing I could think of would be physical damage to the speakers altering its sound performance. I don't see how comparing a GPU is too different. They're both physical parts manufactured with set specs. II doubt LG has a batch of different speakers they're using, or that their speakers are being made differently. I'd assume they're all uniformly assembled, with uniform parts.
If you're comparing headphones, you look at their specs just as you would for computer parts. A pair of Sony MDR-V6's should sound the same across the board unless you have a faulty pair. Any difference in sound between them would more than likely be caused by burn in rather than them simply sounding different despite being made of the same things using the same methods.
Regardless, you're most likely not going to get studio sound quality and clarity from the built in speakers anyway, so I was assuming OP was talking about making it sound better with headphones. Even if he is talking about the speakers, any changes with audio should affect the phone system-wide and be useful for both the built in speaker and external headphones.
I'm not trying to provoke a flame war, but I see nothing wrong with discussing the differences between audio modifications on the device. Debating =/= flaming, it's only flaming when the discussion devolves into what's essentially just a bunch of posters throwing ad hominems at each other.
Indeed it is up to OP to decide, but the best way to decide is to have more information.
Well I've given my personal advice. So good luck OP. Hopefully you don't have a borked speaker bud.
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With any audio mod, the output has to be tuned to the output device. You could have a $10K audio rig and if it's not tuned to your speakers or headset it can sound like junk. Even if it is tuned, your audio source has an affect on quality as well. Tuned $10k rig + 15kbps source = garbage.
Change the speakers/headset/source and the game starts all over again. This doesn't even take into consideration the environment or how everybody hears things differently. This still doesn't address that issue that not all devices reproduce sound the same and not all audio mods are created equal.
If I can find it, there was a write up where a Beats Audio phone was run through a spectrum analyzer. Straight from the jack or matching Beats headphones it looked good but try a set of Sennheiser headphones and garbage quality.
Which is why it would be better to have an audio mod where you can adjust and tweak things more to your liking. Using something that has a lot of options to tweak may be a little intimidating, but in the end it's the best way to get the most out of your sound experience. If you can find a spectrum analyzer that'd be great.
Edit: Looked it up more, it seems my initial assumptions were correct. Most sources are telling me "'Beats Audio' is a branded equalizer that boosts the bass, among other things."
Essentially this could be done with any EQ. If it's just their own bass heavy EQ thrown over, then that doesn't exactly boost clarity and may actually drown the sound in bass (listen to a nice piano piece with bass turned up and hear how muddy it gets). As of now I've only found one source that stated it does something different, but hasn't stated what exactly it does, while every other source points to it being a preset EQ.
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Wasshoi, you are correct. The beats audio software is no more than preset compression, eq, and delay. All these combined alter the source material. These same settings can be achieved through any audio manager if those settings are available and adjustable. However, beats claim that it will be heard "as the artist intended" is a complete farse. In order to listen to music as the artist intended you would need to utilize software that gave a completely flat frequency response with no compression or "widening" affect which is created by phase cancelation and stereo delays.
As Loki said above, even with a flat frequency response in a device, headphones also have hyped or altered frequency responses (usually show on higher end head phone packaging). So if you bump up 5k by 10db to compensate for insane amount of low end on your beats headphones and listen to the same track on a different pair of flat headphones. The second pair would sound thin and tinny as a result of the increases level of 5k not because of the lack of low end.
I really love Ac!d v5 because the noxide manger that is flashed allows you to mix the affected signal with the original using a parallel processing technique that gives you the best of both dry and affected signal. However, i was able to get the same results with beats mod that Loki included in imperium 2.0.1.
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I'm curious to know why they got rid of Dolby from ics to jb
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I'm curious to know why they got rid of Dolby from ics to jb
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Dolby is something they probably paid a licensing fee for. Just like Beats. Maybe the contract was up. That is just a wild guess though.
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I installed Jellylifeless ROM that came with Beats. The audio is 10X better than before. The boomy went away with Bluetooth streaming, though it seems to still be there with 3.5 audio jack. No matter. I use the Bluetooth audio streaming and am satisfied with the output. Much better than the S3 now.
Have to say that I was never a big fan of Beats Audio mods on the S3. But this one sounds great.
Thanks for the all advice.
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I installed Jellylifeless ROM that came with Beats. The audio is 10X better than before. The boomy went away with Bluetooth streaming, though it seems to still be there with 3.5 audio jack. No matter. I use the Bluetooth audio streaming and am satisfied with the output. Much better than the S3 now.
Have to say that I was never a big fan of Beats Audio mods on the S3. But this one sounds great.
Thanks for the all advice.
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lol im on lifeless n didnt even realize it! i have tried almost all audio mods on my sgs2 (before upgrading) and awesome beats/beats audio if n e thing made it slightly more clear (could be placebo effect) but second the person who mentioned nooz! its awesome. try it! and acid audio does have issues with certain devices.. and to the person that mentioned dolby.. its still lingering in some audio mod i cant remember right now. possibly sony xloud and clear audio soundmod with walkman player? could be wrong.. as far as without roit, i think there are a few (volume+) but they just make the phone sound louder by increasing volume but still stock sounding if not worse.. it does also depend in the audio file your listening to, your headphones or whatever your listening to it on and even the device itself
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