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Hello developers,
A thread has been created to help to make the honeycomb functional.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025263
Please share your knowledge and let's make this sweet.
**The thread goes for both the GSM and CDMA versions
This is why I think it was a silly idea to split GSM and CDMA forums, they could have clearly been separated by peoples eyes and tags. Now we have to mess about going back and forth instead of having everything in one topic/forum
TheATHEiST said:
This is why I think it was a silly idea to split GSM and CDMA forums, they could have clearly been separated by peoples eyes and tags. Now we have to mess about going back and forth instead of having everything in one topic/forum
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it would be wise to create another forum, this time with mixed topics from both, like this case
ellokomen said:
it would be wise to create another forum, this time with mixed topics from both, like this case
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Indeed, Or just scrap the splitting of GSM and CDMA altogether.
A dedicated HoneyComb forum would be a good idea though.
Now we have 4 hc threads going its bound to get confusing
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Now we have 4 hc threads going its bound to get confusing
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Maybe that's why Spacemoose1has released the third build with a purportedly easier install, and getting no comments whatsoever
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TheATHEiST said:
Indeed, Or just scrap the splitting of GSM and CDMA altogether.
A dedicated HoneyComb forum would be a good idea though.
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I'd prefer a dedicated honeycomb forum.
I find the forums much better now.... as a euro gsm tab owner I no longer have to sift through all the non-relevant info for gsm tab topics and I'm sure cdma users have similar views.
So we have *another* honeycomb thread that just links us to another Honeycomb thread? Jesus. This GSM/CDMA split was a bad decision.
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GANJDROID said:
So we have *another* honeycomb thread that just links us to another Honeycomb thread? Jesus. This GSM/CDMA split was a bad decision.
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I don't think it was a bad choice, I just think people are to lazy to open up more than 1 tab at a time in their browser. I don't have any problems keeping track of various threads in various forums... that's what the subscribe button is for! I do think that this and it's attached thread are a very bad idea, considering we have a GSM and a CDMA post already in place to track the development. There (shortly) wont be a need to cross-check between CDMA and GSM platforms, because they will become their own entities... they just are not at the moment. (At least not in the Honeycomb realm)
Everyone in the HD2 forums thought separating them as they are now was going to be bad... but jesus, with 7 OS's on one device, that'd be ridiculous...
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I don't think it was a bad choice, I just think people are to lazy to open up more than 1 tab at a time in their browser. I don't have any problems keeping track of various threads in various forums... that's what the subscribe button is for! I do think that this and it's attached thread are a very bad idea, considering we have a GSM and a CDMA post already in place to track the development. There (shortly) wont be a need to cross-check between CDMA and GSM platforms, because they will become their own entities... they just are not at the moment. (At least not in the Honeycomb realm)
Everyone in the HD2 forums thought separating them as they are now was going to be bad... but jesus, with 7 OS's on one device, that'd be ridiculous...
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the purpose tf link to the other thread is to attract the GSM Devs to the HC thread, it is not a GSM or CDMA division here, many GSM devs don't check that CDMA often so this link-thread is for gather everyone in one place.
we had 2 or 3 HC threads but none was purely for general development, so this one is for that.
ellokomen said:
the purpose tf link to the other thread is to attract the GSM Devs to the HC thread, it is not a GSM or CDMA division here, many GSM devs don't check that CDMA often so this link-thread is for gather everyone in one place.
we had 2 or 3 HC threads but none was purely for general development, so this one is for that.
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No, this one is to point people to that one and that one is just a copy of information available on the other two... It's redundant.
Trust me, GSM devs are checking all the forums... If not, than they are cruddy devs.
btyork said:
I don't think it was a bad choice, I just think people are to lazy to open up more than 1 tab at a time in their browser. I don't have any problems keeping track of various threads in various forums... that's what the subscribe button is for! I do think that this and it's attached thread are a very bad idea, considering we have a GSM and a CDMA post already in place to track the development. There (shortly) wont be a need to cross-check between CDMA and GSM platforms, because they will become their own entities... they just are not at the moment. (At least not in the Honeycomb realm)
Everyone in the HD2 forums thought separating them as they are now was going to be bad... but jesus, with 7 OS's on one device, that'd be ridiculous...
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I guess that is true, but that's xda for ya! People don't like searching.
We have Specemooses update thread, the CDMA and GSM rom threads. This thread and the thread this links to are unnecessary IMHO.
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btyork said:
No, this one is to point people to that one and that one is just a copy of information available on the other two... It's redundant.
Trust me, GSM devs are checking all the forums... If not, than they are cruddy devs.
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yeah, I get it.
Once it reaches a week, and everyone notice it, I will delete this link-thread
1. Any rom posted must be listed in a Roms sticky for each device.
2. Any kernel used or posted must be posted also in a Kernel sticky for each device.
3. Any updates to either must be updated in said sticky.
4. Sticky posts should be maintained to be current, not up to date as of a year ago. Look at Desire HD sticky, it suggests to go to the complete desire hd info thread, and it is current as of last May.
5. MD5 or other checksums for all!
It is hard to find the CURRENT version of a kernel, or radio because there is no kernel section, and the radio/ril threads do not have all the radios/ril in the OP. Yes I search, yes I read, in fact I read many threads every day, but it is difficult to figure out where the right or newest version is if they aren't all together. It has become a big mishmosh of information. The mods try to keep posts relevant to thread, but they need to help implement a better structure for the actual files.
This isn't a bash against mods, so calm down, just a suggestion to improve the site for everyone and reduce the number of garbage posts that exist because of disorganization.
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You are right
your right
nice thinking man
There is a general naming convention used in most forums. If something is out of date or in need of attention in your device specific forum, please contact your FSM.
Absolutely right bro. Thanks for jotting it down.
Wouldn't it be easier to have subforums for kernels, roms, mods etc?
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If only xda actually used ur ideas than this would be an even more beast app
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It's really about consistency and an easy way to find the information you're look for. I think a WIKI along with editable lists would be much more maintainable than a single thread to represent very different things. And then have discussions go on in the background.
Having discussions over new roms and [ROM], [KERNEL], [HBOOT] and [etc] releases in the same subforum leads to a confusing experience. Not to mention many different subforums per device, and seeing users posting questions to not so relevant forums (or not having permission to post to the right forum). The user experience is quite aggravating, actually...
But I don't think Forums are an easy way to handle discussions, anyhow. Once you get to more than a few pages in a thread, it becomes hard to track all the information that's going on, even though it's all available publicly.
It would be nice if posts that were 'thanked' were shown with higher priority vs. the ones that weren't. Or maybe something a la reddit with its upvotes (but that has its own set of problems too).
shurane said:
It's really about consistency and an easy way to find the information you're look for. I think a WIKI along with editable lists would be much more maintainable than a single thread to represent very different things. And then have discussions go on in the background.
Having discussions over new roms and [ROM], [KERNEL], [HBOOT] and [etc] releases in the same subforum leads to a confusing experience. Not to mention many different subforums per device, and seeing users posting questions to not so relevant forums (or not having permission to post to the right forum). The user experience is quite aggravating, actually...
But I don't think Forums are an easy way to handle discussions, anyhow. Once you get to more than a few pages in a thread, it becomes hard to track all the information that's going on, even though it's all available publicly.
It would be nice if posts that were 'thanked' were shown with higher priority vs. the ones that weren't. Or maybe something a la reddit with its upvotes (but that has its own set of problems too).
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The latter system of thanked posts is in testing in the galaxy nexus forums right now
pulser_g2 said:
The latter system of thanked posts is in testing in the galaxy nexus forums right now
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What about having subforums for kernels roms(like aosp/sense) etc?
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idea
I think we need a separte part of forum for our samsung galaxy s plus 9001 no insead of samsing galaxy s 9000
so this is my idea LOL
right on point. i think some re-structuring would help to make things better! Thanked!
I am all for devs getting more standards imposed on how they post but shouldnt all posters have more standards.Recently when mods tried to impose standards on the general posting population they didnt think they needed to follow any rules.
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I think we need a separte part of forum for our samsung galaxy s plus 9001 no insead of samsing galaxy s 9000
so this is my idea LOL
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I agree with this one but this has been already answered by one of the modes - no green light from the XDA mgmnt for the sep. section for i9001.
We need a site mirrored on this site except with no comments, just the basic skeleton. Newbies can start there, answer and ask any questions and developers can choose to respond to stupid questions if they wish. This site will be a time trial site where spammers and the developmentally challenged can be routed out early on. Existing members will fear being sent to the kinder garden site and so will also follow the rules etc.
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A lot of great ideas that would help people actually find what they are looking for before they post the dame question that has been answered. If those q&a could just be moved up to the OP or to an asked and answered OP for the Rom......
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I wish we could really +1 posts, and also, when someone quotes our message in a reply, that the quoted poster can be notified. Many times I'm looking for an answer that may come days later, but I'll never know if there are hundreds of messages a day.
+1 and -1 with sortatiton option would be the best thing. That would help to find most useful info in threads really quick.
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What about linking a thread by category or handset vendor? For example, thread "Xperia Mini Pro active development" will be placed in "android development" category and "Sony Xperia" category. Both are the same thread. It's not a clone thread, but lonking thread, so one thread is original and another thread is a linked thread points to original thread (just like 'ln -s' in linux). So everyone can browse it from any category they used to be.
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XDA is a great source of information for all phones. In the past there were sometimes seperate forums for different versions of the same phone. I understand they are all Nexus phones however the issues for Verizon Nexus owners don't necessarily occur with people using a European Nexus and vice versa. There are many things in common but I really wish there had been a Verizon Nexus forum as welll. I should have posted this 6 months ago.
I'd love to be able to go to the Verizon thread and instantly see when there was information about firmware updates, fixes for mic issues, fixes for radio issues, tweaks specific to the Verizon Nexus...
Maybe if enough of you requested it it might happen... I know on the sgs2 forum they split the development sub into two but that was because a couple of devs who were also moderators liked to put themselves on a pedestal and look down from above
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It'd be a plus for sure but the search works pretty well on this forum. Ultimately I can live without a separate forum.
I think it would be a great sub forum within Galaxy Nexus forum, IF it actually contained useful information. Lots of trolls and rumor mills out there with nothing but speculation. If it were created and filled with garbage, than there is no point.
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boe said:
XDA is a great source of information for all phones. In the past there were sometimes seperate forums for different versions of the same phone. I understand they are all Nexus phones however the issues for Verizon Nexus owners don't necessarily occur with people using a European Nexus and vice versa. There are many things in common but I really wish there had been a Verizon Nexus forum as welll. I should have posted this 6 months ago.
I'd love to be able to go to the Verizon thread and instantly see when there was information about firmware updates, fixes for mic issues, fixes for radio issues, tweaks specific to the Verizon Nexus...
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Its not needed for General.
And considering there are no firmware updates, radio fixes, mic fixes, or Verizon specific tweaks, it would be a dead one if it did exist.
PS- Mic problem doesn't appear to be on the phone end.
I like'r the way it is now. :good:
As long as the VZW development is separate, I'm fine.
I like the general meeting ground for all us GNex owners.
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All that matters is separate development forums. There's way too much overlap in the general discussion between device that it'd be a waste to separate them and have a ton of duplicate posts.
People with CDMA phones would just post everything in their forum and GSM would do the same. We'd then have to move/merge threads constantly instead of just allowing the few carrier-specific threads to float around in the same forum.
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People with CDMA phones would just post everything in their forum and GSM would do the same. We'd then have to move/merge threads constantly instead of just allowing the few carrier-specific threads to float around in the same forum.
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I agree that a separate forum would be much worse than what exists today, but that doesn't mean there is no room for improvement. I got my Gnex on July 3, so I'm relatively new, and have been doing a A LOT of reading. The biggest problem I see with regard to having a common forum for general discussion is that more often than not, people don't indicate whether they're referring to the CDMA model or the GSM model. Sometimes this can be gleaned from the discussion if there's mention of LTE or HSPA or possibly a carrier, but it's rarely stated clearly.
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I agree that a separate forum would be much worse than what exists today, but that doesn't mean there is no room for improvement. I got my Gnex on July 3, so I'm relatively new, and have been doing a A LOT of reading. The biggest problem I see with regard to having a common forum for general discussion is that more often than not, people don't indicate whether they're referring to the CDMA model or the GSM model. Sometimes this can be gleaned from the discussion if there's mention of LTE or HSPA or possibly a carrier, but it's rarely stated clearly.
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Yeah it is pretty frustrating whey there is a thread about radio signal issues and someone chimes in they don't have that problem - OK - are you on Verizon? No, I'm on a GSM nexus - than that isn't an apples to apples comparison.
Whine whine whine
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Hi all,
In an effort to reduce the clutter of the General subforum we will be closing any "What's your favorite xxxxxx?" threads in General and ask that you please continue discussions here. Thank you for helping keep this section more organized and apologize for any inconvenience.
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So... What pre-paid service are you guys using?
So... What pre-paid service are you guys using?... Price? your satisfaction level, and any other issues... I'm thinking of switching to the new AT&T $60 plan but am worried about the data speeds.
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So... What pre-paid service are you guys using?... Price? your satisfaction level, and any other issues... I'm thinking of switching to the new AT&T $60 plan but am worried about the data speeds.
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In the US I used the T-Mobile/Wal-Mart plan for $30/month
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So what was your favorite "What's your favorite _____ ?" thread ? :cyclops:
Favorite launcher - TSF Shell (the animations, widgets, and overall look is awesome)
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So what was your favorite "What's your favorite _____ ?" thread ? :cyclops:
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*sigh... *
I hate to be the first one to say this, but I think this thread is worthless. It's obviously not doing much good and how could it possibly reduce clutter? It's going to be a jumbled thread of favorites that is near impossible to make sense of. Not to mention that it's completely dead...
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I hate to be the first one to say this, but I think this thread is worthless. It's obviously not doing much good and how could it possibly reduce clutter? It's going to be a jumbled thread of favorites that is near impossible to make sense of. Not to mention that it's completely dead...
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I agree. Locking all other threads and just making a new one doesn't reduce clutter, it just makes it worse. How about if the moderator(s) just reopen the other threads because they were fluid and in great discussion. Then delete this thread.
This thread is pointless IMHO. It's dead and ended up jumbled.
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Or just be grateful a thread of this is even in place, where it can all be closed down....as realistically "What is your favorite.....so on....so on" is off topic type & worthless discussions anyway, to which there is an Off Topic forum well in-place....
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I hate to be the first one to say this, but I think this thread is worthless. It's obviously not doing much good and how could it possibly reduce clutter? It's going to be a jumbled thread of favorites that is near impossible to make sense of. Not to mention that it's completely dead...
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I agree. Locking all other threads and just making a new one doesn't reduce clutter, it just makes it worse. How about if the moderator(s) just reopen the other threads because they were fluid and in great discussion. Then delete this thread.
This thread is pointless IMHO. It's dead and ended up jumbled.
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Or just be grateful a thread of this is even in place, where it can all be closed down....as realistically "What is your favorite.....so on....so on" is off topic type & worthless discussions anyway, to which there is an Off Topic forum well in-place....
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Damn that's a lot of "thanks"! Wow.
Judge Joseph Dredd said:
Or just be grateful a thread of this is even in place, where it can all be closed down....as realistically "What is your favorite.....so on....so on" is off topic type & worthless discussions anyway, to which there is an Off Topic forum well in-place....
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Is it? As far as I see, there isn't a specific d2att Off Topic thread, and as is said quite often, not all phones are created equal even of the same model. So why should we use a "broad spectrum" Off Topic thread for things that we want to know will work well on our specific device?
Please forgive if I'm out of line, but that is my opinion and I think a lot of people will agree with me.
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Is it? As far as I see, there isn't a specific d2att Off Topic thread, and as is said quite often, not all phones are created equal even of the same model. So why should we use a "broad spectrum" Off Topic thread for things that we want to know will work well on our specific device?
Please forgive if I'm out of line, but that is my opinion and I think a lot of people will agree with me.
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There shouldn't be any off topic for any devices. As I see it, XDA is a development site, not a social network or a place to chat or vent. There is already an off topic section, found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=261 which I think is more than enough for this site. The off topics only further clutter threads and important information and off topics, IMHO, are pointless.
That's just me though. If it were up to me I'd close them all and just stick to development and Q&As... Maybe that way members would at least read OPs and rules Lol....
But that's just me
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Honestly, the only threads in this section should concern the AT&T SAMSUNG GALAXY S3. There are general Android sections on XDA.
I also posted this to the Pixel Forum here.
Right now on XDA we have separate forums for the Pixel and Pixel XL. For the first time (that I can think of) we have two identical Android phones in two sizes. I don't know how popular iPhones forums are on XDA but they don't have separate forums for the regular and plus versions. There isn't iPhone forums on XDA.
It seems like both Pixel and Pixel XL forms already have topics covering both devices. What are your thoughts on combining forums?
Added a poll.
I can't even find the Pixel Phone forum on here. Do you mind linking the main forum so I can find it. Thanks.
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MichaelMcC said:
I can't even find the Pixel Phone forum on here. Do you mind linking the main forum so I can find it. Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel
It is just pixel. It seems fairly dead over there for the phone just being announced. Maybe most of them are in the XL forum.
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Right now on XDA we have separate forums for the Pixel and Pixel XL. For the first time (that I can think of) we have two identical Android phones in two sizes. I don't know how popular iPhones forums are on XDA but they don't have separate forums for the regular and plus versions.
It seems like both Pixel and Pixel XL forms already have topics covering both devices. What are your thoughts on combining forums?
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Combine
While much of the content will be the same, I can see a reason for the separate forums. Accessories will be different sizes. ROMs will have to have some sight differences as well. While accessories and ROMs should be labeled for the appropriate version, some people won't pay attention and cause themselves pain which they will then in turn blame everyone else for.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel
It is just pixel. It seems fairly dead over there for the phone just being announced. Maybe most of them are in the XL forum.
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I ordered the Pixel, but I am here cause you guys seem more active and its the same phone
also, the Galaxy Tab Pro series has a combined xda forum, for the 8", 10", and 12" sizes
#UNITY
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Yes.
There will be some hw differences, projects won't be cross compatible for the most part. They want to avoid noobs breaking their stuff
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I can't even find the Pixel Phone forum on here. Do you mind linking the main forum so I can find it. Thanks.
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All you have to do is use search bar and type Google Pixel there are too. We should not have them combined different motherboards different roms and roots when released. not the same devices
That's a tough choice. I would say merge them but keep the development subforums separate.
Maybe, you should wait for an "iFixit" (or equivalent) evaluation of what is realy inside...
btw; do you have any idea of kernel version : 3.18 or 4.x (new concept without new kernel = pixel (?!)).
These two phones are identical in everything except screen size. The forums should be merged.
Forums should be merged.
Should be easy to use a prefix in the thread title so everyone knows.
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These two phones are identical in everything except screen size. The forums should be merged.
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well, not exactly.
one has FHD screen, other has QHD (obviously different size as well)
different battery capacity.
It looks like more than 80% of the votes are interested in consolidating the forums. It looks like the concerns would be separating Accessories and Development. Some expressed this could be resolved with separate areas for each device or requiring tags.
@MikeChannon you are the Moderator for the Pixel and Pixel XL forums. Could you weigh in on this? Is this possible to do?
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It looks like more than 80% of the votes are interested in consolidating the forums. It looks like the concerns would be separating Accessories and Development. Some expressed this could be resolved with separate areas for each device or requiring tags.
@MikeChannon you are the Moderator for the Pixel and Pixel XL forums. Could you weigh in on this? Is this possible to do?
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Well I'm the site Forum Admin.
The Moderators for these phones are:
Stephen
SynisterWolf
Sloth
Magnum_Enforcer
Mike
MikeChannon said:
Well I'm the site Forum Admin.
The Moderators for these phones are:
Stephen
SynisterWolf
Sloth
Magnum_Enforcer
Mike
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Thanks Mike!
@Stephen
@SynisterWolf
@Sloth
@Magnum_Enforcer
It looks like since the thread was bumped a few more No than Yes votes were cast. What are the moderators opinion on this? If this isn't possible or Mods decide this isn't a good idea please close\lock the thread as needed.
If you voted No would you vote Yes if some criteria was met? Example: Separate Development sections for each device. Please share your opinion.
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Thanks Mike!
@Stephen
@SynisterWolf
@Sloth
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It looks like since the thread was bumped a few more No than Yes votes were cast. What are the moderators opinion on this? If this isn't possible or Mods decide this isn't a good idea please close\lock the thread as needed.
If you voted No would you vote Yes if some criteria was met? Example: Separate Development sections for each device. Please share your opinion.
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I'll bring this up with the forum moderators for this forum and see what they think. My personal view is, the Pixel XL and Pixel phones should get a lot of traffic, based on the previous phones, I think 2 forums are warranted. We could get confusion when people are asking questions in the Q&A section for example regarding which phone they ware wanting support for etc. Also we would need to find out if the ROM's have different basis as well, if they did then it would almost certainly need two forums.
Agree with @Stephen ...but there are a few caveats that we need to look at first and unfortunately that can't be done until some development begins. First, are there any nuances in the architecture that differentiate the X from the XL? On the front face, only the display and battery are different, but as we all know that doesn't mean the rest is identical. Maybe there is something buried deep in the kernel or a line in one of the props that may seem miniscule, but throws everything out of wack.
Something that we can possibly look at in the future would be combination, but with some restructure. What I mean here is that we can have the Guides/News, Accessories, Themes/Apps/Mods and QA sections combined, but separate the X and XL Development sections from one another. That will make sure that if you are just asking a general question or need a guide, you can look in the combined section. But if you are looking for a specific ROM build, you will have to go into your specific arena.
Ultimately, we need to get devices in hand and a better analysis of the system dumps that we currently have. Those will tell the tale.
Oh and someone said something about the Search Bar. That made my day. I think that I have to log off now since my keyboard is soaked with my tears of laughter and I don't want to short it out and have to explain why to IT.