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Terrible battery life

Can't make it through the day on a single charge, and to make matters worse, where my iPhone used to climb 50% in less than an hour, the desire charges at a glacial pace. Screw froyo, do something about the battery life, HTC.

Vlad_M said:
Can't make it through the day on a single charge, and to make matters worse, where my iPhone used to climb 50% in less than an hour, the desire charges at a glacial pace. Screw froyo, do something about the battery life, HTC.
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so you're using froyo and your desire can't make it through a day?

I think he means he thinks HTC should concentrate on sorting the battery life and not on pushing out Froyo.
But tbh with heavy use my Desire lasts around 24 hours to maybe 36 tops on a full charge and also charges quickly through mains (not throught usb on pc that's slow).
I think he has a bad battery or is using a crap rom. Or has brightness on full, wifi on all day and bluetooth too.

I think "heavy usage" is a relative term. My wife and I both have the same phone, and are experiencing the same problems, so I don't think it's a case of a bad battery. My brightness is on auto, yes, wifi is on all the time however isn't this the point - so that the phone can use wifi for data when in a know network?
The phone is not rooted, therefore using the stock ROM.

Vlad_M said:
I think "heavy usage" is a relative term. My wife and I both have the same phone, and are experiencing the same problems, so I don't think it's a case of a bad battery. My brightness is on auto, yes, wifi is on all the time however isn't this the point - so that the phone can use wifi for data when in a know network?
The phone is not rooted, therefore using the stock ROM.
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*#*#4636#*#* in Phone, goto Battery History, then select Partial Wake Usage in the top drop down box, if anything is going above a very tiny blue bar, check it out.

Android system has quite a significant blue bar representing it. Now what?

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Android system has quite a significant blue bar representing it. Now what?
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There are loads of "tweaks" you can make to improve battery life of your handset... you can try the following and it should make a huge difference for you, and result in longer battery life span:
1. Lower screen brightness. Go to Settings -> Sound & display -> Brightness. Slide the brightness switch to the left to lower it or check the "Automatic brightness" box to let the phone use its sensors to adjust the screen according to the ambient light. You can also find dedicated screen brightness widgets in Android Market.
2. Turn off 3G, WiFi, GPS, and Bluetooth when you don't need them. The easiest way to manage these wireless radios is to use the Settings widget preinstalled on your phone. Tap the + button on your home screen -> Widget -> Settings. Once your chosen widgets are on any of your home screens, a simple tap turns each one on/off. You can also use "Power Control" widget found in home screen -> Widget -> Power Control. There are other widgets that do this in Android Market (e.g. SwitchPro), but these are already preinstalled and they're a nice-looking set.
3. Disable WiFi and 3G network notifications. Go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Wi-Fi settings. Uncheck the Network notification box so your phone isn't constantly scanning and looking for open networks to tell you about. For 3G, go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile Networks.
4. Disable "always on" mobile data. This is one of the biggest battery savers. Go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks. Tap "Enable always-on mobile data" to uncheck the box. I haven't found a negative consequence of disabling this feature, as Gmail and other apps/functions still work perfectly.
5. Turn off background data. If you're not using Google services, go to Settings -> Accounts & sync and uncheck the Background data box so that applications cannot sync, send, and receive data whenever they want to.
6. Lower the screen timeout interval. The phone's screen can be set to automatically turn off when you don't interact with it for a predetermined amount of time: 15 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute, 2 minutes, 10 minutes, or never. Depending on what you're doing, a too-short interval can become annoying (especially if you didn't disable your lock screen), so choose wisely.
7. Manually turn off the screen when not in use. Since the screen timeout function ensures that the phone's screen will turn off (unless you have it set to "never turn off"), it can be tempting to put the phone down when you're done using it and just let the screen turn off by itself. Instead, give the power button at the top of the phone a quick push to turn it off manually.
8. Turn off auto-sync. Go to Settings -> Accounts & sync -> Auto-sync.
9. Change auto-sync frequency (Weather, News, Stocks, Twitter, etc). If you don't want to turn off auto-sync, you can adjust how frequently data is retrieved/updated. The settings vary depending on the app (and some don't offer the setting at all), but it's generally found in the same place: Settings -> Accounts & sync. Select an account from the list and then tap "Account settings" to change the sync frequency.
10. Disable wireless network location services when not needed. Go to Settings -> Location -> Use wireless networks. Note that this (or one of the other options) needs to be enabled if you want to see and/or use your location in apps like Maps.
11. Turn off window animations. To turn it off, go to Settings -> Sound & display -> Animation -> No animations.
12. Don't use a live wallpaper. Use a static wallpaper instead.
13. Use a dark wallpaper. Some say that dark wallpapers are more energy efficient than light wallpapers. Others say it doesn't make any difference. Either way, there's no harm in using a dark wallpaper so you may as well do it.
14. Change WiFi sleep policy. This may sound counter-intuitive, but leaving WiFi on when the phone isn't being used and the screen is off is actually better than letting it sleep. When WiFi sleeps, 3G wakes up to sync, get email, and retrieve other data. 3G will eat up more battery than WiFi, so go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Wi-Fi Settings. Press the Menu button and tap Advanced, then Wi-Fi sleep policy. Choose "Never" from the pop-up menu.
15. Monitor your running services (or consider using a task killer). Just because Android 2.1 is supposed to an intelligent operating system that will manage your running apps for you doesn't mean it will always do things the way you want them to be done.
You can take matters into your own hands by going to Settings -> Applications -> Running services, where you can view what your phone is doing and manually stop certain activities. You can also download a third-party task killer from Android Market and kill selected apps to free up some resources and potentially save some power. Task killers are a polarizing topic in the Android community, so tread lightly when looking for recommendations or asking for help with them.
16. Choose your home screen widgets carefully. Widgets that need access to the internet to update information (e.g., Facebook, Twitter, Engadget, Slacker Radio, Weather, Stocks, News, Mail) can suck up a lot of juice if not managed well, so choose them carefully and set their sync/update frequencies to a reasonable interval.
17. Disable notification lights. This may not be practical if you're someone who really needs/wants to know when something happens on your phone when you're not looking, but for everyone else, feel free to turn off those notifications. Go to Settings -> Sound & display -> Notification flash and uncheck all the boxes.
18. Turn off phone vibration. If the ringer is on, why do you need the phone to vibrate? You're already in a loud environment that drowns out the ring; answering the call won't quiet your surroundings so you can hear what the person at the end of the line is saying.
And if your phone is set to silent, then an incoming call should be silent. Yes, the buzzing vibration may not be disruptive as your ringtone, but people still hear it.
So go to Settings -> Sound & display -> Phone vibrate and turn it off.
19. Turn off audible touch tones. In Settings -> Sound & display, uncheck Audible selection and turn off Audible touch tones.
20. Turn off haptic feedback. Once you get the hang of typing on the phone's on-screen keyboard, you can turn off the haptic feedback that was turned on by default. Go to Settings -> Language & keyboard -> Touch Input -> Text input -> Vibrate when typing.
You can disable haptics in other areas of the system by going to Settings -> Sound & display -> Haptic feedback.

Hi,
Had major battery problems before.
It seemed media was always running and draining battery.
This weekend i bought a new microsSD card an that somehow solved all my issues.
Migt be that something on my sd card was causing the power drain.
Try formating the sd card with pc and the insert it again in phone.

Peculiar. I have a perfectly standard Desire, nothing modified and get a day easily. I do have Juice Defender enabled (easy mode)

Sometimes I am just wondering ... We need to turn off so much in order to get decent battery life
I am watching the new iPhone 4 announcement ... it has much better hardware and very good battery life (10 hours video playing!).

MasDroid said:
4. Disable "always on" mobile data. This is one of the biggest battery savers. Go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks. Tap "Enable always-on mobile data" to uncheck the box. I haven't found a negative consequence of disabling this feature, as Gmail and other apps/functions still work perfectly.
5. Turn off background data. If you're not using Google services, go to Settings -> Accounts & sync and uncheck the Background data box so that applications cannot sync, send, and receive data whenever they want to.
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So with these two off, my Exchange and Gmail will still sync?

Vlad_M said:
So with these two off, my Exchange and Gmail will still sync?
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Yes, disabling the Background Data will affect the auto sync to Google.

I think Im seeing light at the end of the tunnel...
I hated the batterylife when I first got the Desire. I disabled everything, no live wallpapers, no automatic updates, only couple widgets etc. I barely managed one day.
NOW after several weeks of usage, guess what. I am using automatic brightness, live wallpapers (starfield), News widget and Friends stream updating every hour, GMAIL. I surf some, read emails, play game or two, bit of GPS and Copilot, calls and txts... and I get through about two days!
I think the battery gets better with time!

On the South African forums where we discussed the phone everyone complains that it starts off bad, but after about a week the battery life is much much better....I am but 5 days in, and it's better, but let's see how much it improves.

MasDroid said:
Yes, disabling the Background Data will affect the auto sync to Google.
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Can you elaborate on that? What is auto sync to Google if not gmail?

Vlad_M said:
Can you elaborate on that? What is auto sync to Google if not gmail?
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Well, if you have an unlimited data plan, then you might as well leave auto-sync and background data on.
Autosyncing allows for push e-mail with gmail.
If you try switching off auto-sync and background data, it means that you will not get the notifications in real-time from Facebook, for example, and on the drag down menu, and other similar things.
I have tried turning off background data, and not noticed any ill effects... I still get my push gmail etc....
EDIT: actually, turning off Background Data will stop push email happening as there's no data connection, or a periodic pull of email happening again, because of no background connection.
I guess it's a bit of a tradeoff really - connectivity vs battery life.

so far i have to say the battery is far worse than the HD2 with a good rom and radio but maybe its somthing to do with the fact this is new to me and i am playing more

The above statements read very contradictory.

Vlad_M said:
The above statements read very contradictory.
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over all with both phones running with same kind of stuff updating the HD2 useing xanny's evo rom 2.2 with radio 2.11 eats far less battery than the desire even though the HD2 has a 1240 mah battery and desire a 1400 mah but the my desire is new so i playing lots more but i am quite sure at the moment on even terms the HD2 set up i have will last far longer on one charge than my stock desire.

gogol said:
I am watching the new iPhone 4 announcement ... it has much better hardware and very good battery life (10 hours video playing!).
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Apple says the iPhone 4 is rated at 7 hours of 3G talk.
HTC says the Desire is rated at 6.5 hours of 3G talk.
Not much of a difference in paper.
Still, let's see how thing will go in practical use.
In every day life, I know many people that charge their iPhone (3GS) 2 times every day. Now that sucks even more.

[Q] Cyanogen Radios Widget

Has anyone else noticed that the radios widget is no longer in Cyanogens 7.0.2.1? This is the widget that you can toggle the radios off and on in. I use this quite a bit as I do WiFi in my house, have Wimax at work and I trvel very heavily so I use airplane mode quite a bit.
-Don

dtabbs said:
Has anyone else noticed that the radios widget is no longer in Cyanogens 7.0.2.1? This is the widget that you can toggle the radios off and on in. I use this quite a bit as I do WiFi in my house, have Wimax at work and I trvel very heavily so I use airplane mode quite a bit.
-Don
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I have that widget on my home screen right now, running CM7.0.2.1 it is called power control, and you just long press on the home screen, choose widget, and power control, then you choose which controls you want.

Its still there.
Settings > CM Settings > Interface > Notification Power Widgets
Scroll down to mobile data [3G], Wimax is your 4G, and Wifi toggle AP [hotspot]

Muellersirch said:
I have that widget on my home screen right now, running CM7.0.2.1 it is called power control, and you just long press on the home screen, choose widget, and power control, then you choose which controls you want.
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Thanks, don't know why I could not find it previously.
-Don
P.S. This is BS that I have to wait five minutes to edit a post. can't do a ninja edit that way...

No problem man.

Nuisances: List Yours...

Mine in decreasing order of annoyance:
Decreased 3G/4G/WiFi reception comparing to previous phone (EVO 4G).
Touchwiz:
Full charge sound.
Contacts not prioritizing contact pictures from FB/Twitter/Skype over Google.
Dialpad is convoluted (too many steps to make a call) and fugly.
Lockscreen. Ewww.
Bottom touch buttons backlight shuts off 2-3 seconds after screen is touched (should be longer).
Power button on side of phone.

You know you can change the background on your lockscreen in settings. Still not the best lockscreen available but there are plenty of options in the market. you can change the duration of the backlight for the bottom buttons in display settings under "touch key light duration".
akarol said:
Mine in decreasing order of annoyance:
Decreased 3G/4G/WiFi reception comparing to previous phone (EVO 4G).
Touchwiz:
Full charge sound.
Contacts not prioritizing contact pictures from FB/Twitter/Skype over Google.
Dialpad is convoluted (too many steps to make a call) and fugly.
Lockscreen. Ewww.
Bottom touch buttons backlight shuts off 2-3 seconds after screen is touched (should be longer).
Power button on side of phone.
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Can't help you with most. But in settings/ display you can adjust the display timing for what Samsung refers to as Touch Keys.
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Devi0124 said:
You know you can change the background on your lockscreen in settings. Still not the best lockscreen available but there are plenty of options in the market. you can change the duration of the backlight for the bottom buttons in display settings under "touch key light duration".
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Also, the location of the power button will be updated in new roms...

"1. Decreased 3G/4G/WiFi reception comparing to previous phone (EVO 4G)."
Can this be fixed with updates? I really hope so, that is my only issue with the phone currently.

Mine in decreasing order of annoyance:
Decreased 3G/4G/WiFi reception comparing to previous phone (MoPho).
LED is blue or red, thats it (tried diferent options incl. apk's... all to no avail).
No landscape mode for TW
Speaker full volume / clarity at said full volume is good, but speaker does strain infrequently and is not as loud as MoPho's (barely but still noticeable)

Wow, thanks for the bottom key tweak. Overlooked that one.
My complaint about the lockscreen is the plainess and lack of features it possesses. Sense simply blows TW away at the moment.

Yeah, Sense is plenty better, but TW isn't that bad, other than the lock screen.....and the way they have it set up to select your widgets.....but it's okay.
DITTO tho on the data, that's a biggie. I'm returning mine because of this. I need data, I use it more than the phone, lol

1. The vibration when I received a text was insanely too long, but I can't figure out how to adjust the pattern.
2. 4G keeps going to sleep while I'm streaming music with the display off, and I have to wake the phone to get the music to start streaming again.
Nothing else is really bothering me right now. Except I'd like a better lock screen.
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akarol said:
Wow, thanks for the bottom key tweak. Overlooked that one.
My complaint about the lockscreen is the plainess and lack of features it possesses. Sense simply blows TW away at the moment.
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Yeah but bloated down the RAM.... Wait till a port or AOSP or use.a launcher... I never use touchwiz or sense or blurr on any of the phones I have
My only nuisance is your avatar
Lost quite.a bit of money on yesterdays game
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akarol said:
Wow, thanks for the bottom key tweak. Overlooked that one.
My complaint about the lockscreen is the plainess and lack of features it possesses. Sense simply blows TW away at the moment.
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I suppose if you like 1gb+ roms, sure.
Touchwiz is incredibly easy to theme. I'm sure there will be an 8 lockscreen mod port soon.
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Lack of airplane mode in the shade pull-down. My office has zero reception, so need to rely on Google voice during office hours.
Will probably use anycut to put an airplane-mode shortcut on the homescreen.

Biggest ones for me right now concern the dialer:
- No instant-call button on the dialer's Favorites or Contacts tabs - you have to tap the name, then call on the second screen. On stock Android it has a phone icon right there at the right side of each name's field. No clue why they'd go and remove that, it's extremely useful.
- No way to turn off the huge photos next to people's names - I always turned those off on stock to make it just a list of names with the phone icon on the right - it showed a lot more names per screen that way. Again, no idea why a feature like that gets removed.

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Biggest ones for me right now concern the dialer:
- No instant-call button on the dialer's Favorites or Contacts tabs - you have to tap the name, then call on the second screen. On stock Android it has a phone icon right there at the right side of each name's field. No clue why they'd go and remove that, it's extremely useful.
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If you swipe your finger right to left over their name it calls them. If you swipe left to right it brings you into messaging. I actually like it more than the stock call buttons. Keeps the contacts menu more clean imo.

First. I am rooted so there is a possibility it is the rooted Kernel that is doing this... but maybe not as it is radio related.
Twice today lost signal on the golf course (and in addition to phone signal lost data so my GPS Golf App wasn't usable when I needed it for distance to the green)... but couldn't get the phone to trigger signal back on even if I put the phone in Airplane Mode (both times) and back out. Also tried turning roaming off and on.
Both times I HAD to turn the phone completely off and then back on. When it came back on I had 4 bars (but had previously been unable to connect).
Not good...

When I was playing with the phone @ the sprint store I noticed that airplane mode option pop up if i hit the power switch while in phone mode.
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Lack of airplane mode in the shade pull-down. My office has zero reception, so need to rely on Google voice during office hours.
Will probably use anycut to put an airplane-mode shortcut on the homescreen.
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deputydon said:
If you swipe your finger right to left over their name it calls them. If you swipe left to right it brings you into messaging. I actually like it more than the stock call buttons. Keeps the contacts menu more clean imo.
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No biggie, as I'm sure all that try will find out, but he means your "other left" and "other right" (as my father used to say as I was growing up), i.e. the swipe directions described are actually the opposite directions.
Cheers!

jake21 said:
When I was playing with the phone @ the sprint store I noticed that airplane mode option pop up if i hit the power switch while in phone mode.
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AWESOME, thanks. Don't know how I forgot that!

When I'm texting with Swype, the language switches to Espanol all the time because the language button is right next to the comma button.
It's really annoying, any way to turn it off?

I can't for the life of me figure out how to keep the screen from turning off while the phone is plugged in. Its usually under settings>applications> development> keep screen on while charging..
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data 3g toggle help?

To save battery I like to have my data off & only turn it on when checking smthn. Is there a widget /app that gives me access to turning it on directly on my home screen instead of going through settings etc... ?

psixichka said:
To save battery I like to have my data off & only turn it on when checking smthn. Is there a widget /app that gives me access to turning it on directly on my home screen instead of going through settings etc... ?
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Data Enabler. Works great and has a widget!

Data switch works awesome also. Just place the icon on one of your screens and hit on our off and toggles off and on.
Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Touch.

Unamed rom has it in the notification bar

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Unamed rom has it in the notification bar
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Does it have the 4g hotspot? And can I use diff themes with it( confused as to how I use themes)?
Tia

Yea and there are a few themes in the appropriate section.

What would be ideal is a simple toggle widget that you press once and it turns off 3G and turns wifi on all with one press. That would make switching from 3G to wifi super quick and easy.

cds0699 said:
What would be ideal is a simple toggle widget that you press once and it turns off 3G and turns wifi on all with one press. That would make switching from 3G to wifi super quick and easy.
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Tasker will let you make that script, and thousands of others as specific and awesome as you can make them

[Q] Shortcut to toggle my data off? (ATT Note 2)

My GF has the infuse 4g and if you hold the power button down a few seconds it pops up with the options to put it in plane mode, power off, etc. but it also allows you to shut off the data plan. I am being very cautious with my data plan and turn it off quite often when im not using the phone. I was hoping for a quicker means to toggle it off/on like via the power button, or the scrollbare at the top of the screen when you drag the top of the screen down.
Any way to add this capability so I dont need to keep hitting settings and data usage?
Thank you

if you flash a rom with 15 toggle mod it comes with it in the status bar.
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Or if you want a stock solution, use the widget Favorite Settings. It has the data usage button on there so you could just click it and take you straight to data usage to turn it off.

I haven ever flashed the roms or any of that before so I would need to go through and learn how to do it. but my main concern with those is that I would lose my tv-out functionality if I go to a different Rom from what I hear.
Thanks for the feedback
It would be cool to have it in the scroll bar if possible.
For now I have D/L'ed the "data enabler" app and put it on my home screen.

Or you can add the Settings widget 1x1 and select Data Usage. This gives you a 2 click solution to turn mobile data on/off.
I really hate the fact that the toggle isn't in the drop down menu. Makes me think ATT is resorting to methods of confusing is customers in order to nickel and dime us.
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