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Samsung are beginning to roll out the fix for the volume bug. https://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/140471495288823808
Any more info, like a date, when to expect the update?
Oh, wait, it's Samsung, so it will arrive "anytime soon", which means "by the end of November", which actually means "maybe November, but definitely in December"...
Nice, I should have my Nexus by Tues or Wednesday then.
Interesting it's a radio update, not Android or anything lower level.
How will the fix be delivered? direct to the handset via update or USB?
Too bad they don't seem to have a link to it.
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How will the fix be delivered? direct to the handset via update or USB?
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OTA to the handset.
Once someone gets the OTA - they can pull it from a logcat and get the URL - then anyone can download apply without waiting for their IMEI to be flagged to receive the update.
Hm, but this doesn't seem to be an official Twitter account / Website of Samsung.
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Hm, but this doesn't seem to be an official Twitter account / Website of Samsung.
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It isn't. But they have good sources.
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Interesting it's a radio update, not Android or anything lower level.
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How do you know it's radio only update?
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How do you know it's radio only update?
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because it's referencing an increment to the baseband version, and not mentioning anything about an Android version number.
that being said, we don't know what's going to happen yet...
let's see.
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How do you know it's radio only update?
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Because the name of the update is the name of the baseband,not Android.
I am pretty sure it will be more than just the radio, P3Droid tweeted on the 22nd about ICL52 and Adnroid 4.2 with a new baseband.... When though Samsung??!!
We were told the ICL53b update contained the fix, no mention of the baseband version. I can try to get more info but its a holiday weekend here so no idea if i will be able to reach him.
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I am pretty sure it will be more than just the radio, P3Droid tweeted on the 22nd about ICL52 and Adnroid 4.2 with a new baseband.... When though Samsung??!!
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surely its google, not samsung... as a Nexus it is pure android so will come straight from Google and not via samsung
Whyt_e said:
surely its google, not samsung... as a Nexus it is pure android so will come straight from Google and not via samsung
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As has been proven the bug occurs when the phone is in the bootloader, so it's nothing to do with Android.
The patch needs to be at a hardware level, so it will be firmware update. That comes from Samsung, not Google.
It might be the case that the patch for this particular problem was developed by Samsung but it'll still be released by Google not Samsung. So we are waiting for both but ultimately it'll be Googles decision when to push it. At least that's my understanding of the update process of a Nexus phone.
some people in this thread need to remember a few things:
1) Nexus handsets are made as a collaboration between Google and whoever the chosen manufacturer is.
2) Google push all unbranded Nexus updates, not the manufacturer.
in the case of this update, it will likely be pushed as an update to Android anyway - I have never seen a baseband change come through to an Android handset without it being with an incremental update to Android.
I've got to the stage when I don't care who does what - all I want is an update so that the phone is usable. I suspect many early adopters think the same.
I agree mate. I don't care if apple make the fix. For me this weekend staying in London my phone was unusable in certain parts. Grrrrrrrr
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@SamsungSupport: @Zeon45 Sorry about that! The update to your device was pushed by Google. Please contact them for further info. Thanks, ^jc #GalaxyNexus
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And the update was what? A version change? Volume bug fix?
The volume fix, I'm still on 4.0.1 it just changed from D to F.
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The point is if Samsungs twitter is correct my non yakju Nexus gets updated by Google rather than Samsung.
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According to Samsung Sweden it is google pushing out the updates BUT samsung has to review the updates and do quality control for local carriers first so I guess it depends on what the nature of the update is if it's going to be delayed or not.
We have yakjuxw here aswell.
This comes from their facebook page though and they have been saying all kinds of crap there before so not sure if it's like that or not but it sounds like they had researched it better this time so it can be correct.
Guys.. it really doesn't matter what your device is you are going to get updates no matter what..
Not everyone gets updates at the same time no matter what so there isn't a point in worrying about it..
I wouldn't even bother listening to a company's twitter feed. They usually don't know the details (or anything for that matter...)
joshnichols189 said:
Guys.. it really doesn't matter what your device is you are going to get updates no matter what..
Not everyone gets updates at the same time no matter what so there isn't a point in worrying about it..
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Precisely. Considering there are staggered rollouts for OTAs anyways, there's a good chance you'll get your update to your "Samsung" phone before "Google" phones lol. It really doesn't matter. Nexus is a Nexus.
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According to Samsung Sweden it is google pushing out the updates BUT samsung has to review the updates and do quality control for local carriers first so I guess it depends on what the nature of the update is if it's going to be delayed or not.
We have yakjuxw here as well.
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This. All updates are pushed by Google, whether you are running yakju, or a localized build. However, as Snoemannen said, the first non-yakju OTA's will generally tend to come out later than the first yakju OTA's, as Samsung reviews them. This is not to say that if you have a yakju build, you will get your OTA before a non-yakju build - only saying that the first yakju update will come before the first non-yakju update. Now, as long as that first person grabs the update URL, then we all should have updates quickly!
It's time to stop yakking about all these different builds and be happy that Google will get you all the updates.
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It's time to stop yakking about all these different builds and be happy that Google will get you all the updates.
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I thought this was a discussion board, where we are supposed to... discuss things.
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I thought this was a discussion board, where we are supposed to... discuss things.
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Just sayin' all the worries about the builds were overblown.
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Just sayin' all the worries about the builds were overblown.
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Look, everyone wants to be the first to get the latest-and-greatest version. Period. What we are trying to do is facilitate that.
I like Android more than iphone but at least with iPhone you usually know some of the fixes that are in the works.
I don't know if a radio fix is coming with the next OTA update
I don't knonw when (if) I'll see an update for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus - I'm pretty sure I will but who is to say 100% other than Verizon or Android - tons of rumors like the 4.04 update and the 4.05 update etc but nothing concrete.
I suppose I'm kind of *****in but I'm also pretty sure they could make ALL of their clients happier if they released SOME info. E.g. a radio fix is in the works... or we'll have 4.04 for Verizon customers within 2 months - anything is better than nothing even if they don't' go into tremendous specfics.
Just my opinion of course.
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I like Android more than iphone but at least with iPhone you usually know some of the fixes that are in the works.
I don't know if a radio fix is coming with the next OTA update
I don't knonw when (if) I'll see an update for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus - I'm pretty sure I will but who is to say 100% other than Verizon or Android - tons of rumors like the 4.04 update and the 4.05 update etc but nothing concrete.
I suppose I'm kind of *****in but I'm also pretty sure they could make ALL of their clients happier if they released SOME info. E.g. a radio fix is in the works... or we'll have 4.04 for Verizon customers within 2 months - anything is better than nothing even if they don't' go into tremendous specfics.
Just my opinion of course.
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We can always wish, but it has never been that way for any other device, so why would it change now?
Ive often wondered why they cant give us generic montly statements or something. Put an intern on it or something. 5 min of time once a month from an intern would be so easy.
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I like Android more than iphone but at least with iPhone you usually know some of the fixes that are in the works.
I don't know if a radio fix is coming with the next OTA update
I don't knonw when (if) I'll see an update for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus - I'm pretty sure I will but who is to say 100% other than Verizon or Android - tons of rumors like the 4.04 update and the 4.05 update etc but nothing concrete.
I suppose I'm kind of *****in but I'm also pretty sure they could make ALL of their clients happier if they released SOME info. E.g. a radio fix is in the works... or we'll have 4.04 for Verizon customers within 2 months - anything is better than nothing even if they don't' go into tremendous specfics.
Just my opinion of course.
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I feel the same way.
RogerPodacter said:
Ive often wondered why they cant give us generic montly statements or something. Put an intern on it or something. 5 min of time once a month from an intern would be so easy.
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That would be fantastic. Even if it said this month - update coming in June - that would be better than me hoping I might find a rumor that might seem credible. Then I'd know where to get genuine news relating to my device on MY carrier.
I am a looong time nexus user and I dont wish this anymore because I know it wont happend. Google works this way.
The only more or less "sure" thing is that when they say that it will be released in a couple of week is because it is already deployed in most employees devices for a long test and it will in fact be released in 2-3 weeks.
Google works this way because they don't have a ETA for when things are complete.
That's like saying telling CyanogenMod that you want more communication between them and the users so that they can post a timeline on when RC1/RC2 will be complete etc.
Things are just done when they're done.
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Ive often wondered why they cant give us generic montly statements or something. Put an intern on it or something. 5 min of time once a month from an intern would be so easy.
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Because...when something goes wrong, and they do not make their timeline, people would throw a fit, even more than they do now.
As others have mentioned, expecting any sort of ETA is completely unreasonable.
But honestly, this whole upgrade experience has been pretty underwhelming for two reasons: lack of communication and very slow speed. The volume bug -- a completely show-stopping bug -- took two weeks for a fix. I highly doubt it would take Apple that long to issue a software fix for such a serious bug. Sorry to bring Apple into the discussion, but it's true.
Not to mention that it's taken Google FIVE months to get NFC to be fully functional...
At the end of the day, having relatively quick updates of stock Android will probably keep me with Nexus devices, but an advertised and guaranteed monthly status update? That would be a killer USP. The silence between 4.0.2 and 4.0.4 was absolutely terrible.
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I like Android more than iphone but at least with iPhone you usually know some of the fixes that are in the works.
I don't know if a radio fix is coming with the next OTA update
I don't knonw when (if) I'll see an update for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus - I'm pretty sure I will but who is to say 100% other than Verizon or Android - tons of rumors like the 4.04 update and the 4.05 update etc but nothing concrete.
I suppose I'm kind of *****in but I'm also pretty sure they could make ALL of their clients happier if they released SOME info. E.g. a radio fix is in the works... or we'll have 4.04 for Verizon customers within 2 months - anything is better than nothing even if they don't' go into tremendous specfics.
Just my opinion of course.
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Yes it sounds great, but it would just make things worse.
People would be exponentially more angry if they gave progress reports and they didn't go where people wanted. They'd complain even more because they'd know it wasn't fixing the way they wanted it to be fixed. And as soon as they promise a timetable and are unable to deliver, all hell would break loose. Either that, or they give a timetable too far in the future to keep from hurting themselves, and people complain the timetable is too far out.
Google and Verizon aren't just sitting on their asses doing nothing. They're working. Its downright insulting saying that Google isn't working hard on these updates. Just be patient ffs.
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Yes it sounds great, but it would just make things worse.
People would be exponentially more angry if they gave progress reports and they didn't go where people wanted. They'd complain even more because they'd know it wasn't fixing the way they wanted it to be fixed. And as soon as they promise a timetable and are unable to deliver, all hell would break loose. Either that, or they give a timetable too far in the future to keep from hurting themselves, and people complain the timetable is too far out.
Google and Verizon aren't just sitting on their asses doing nothing. They're working. Its downright insulting saying that Google isn't working hard on these updates. Just be patient ffs.
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Agreed. Also with Google (or the manufacturer doing updates) it has to be approved by the carrier UNLESS you're using the GSM model of Galaxy Nexus which is independent of any carrier.
This is from a news article I read yesterday,
“HTC has delivered a ROM to us however it is still having issues the reason that other sensation types have the update without issue and ours did not come out that way is because every ROM must be adapted to the hardware of the device because we use a different radio than other providers and also have applications such as wifi calling it also has to be compatible with those. What the HTC rep told you is most likely correct because once a ROM is delivered we have 2 weeks to test it and then approve it or send it back they then have 4 weeks to fix the bugs and return it back to us, where we are exactly in that process I do not know but that is how a ROM is delivered to the customer.
The original ROM was not delivered to us in November, we started testing it just recently but I think it has been longer than 2 weeks so at this point HTC most likely has the ball.
You bought a phone and it has been announced that you are getting ICS you have every right to know what’s going on with it and when you can see these awesome features. I did go into a lot of detail about how a ROM gets to the end user (you guys) but that wasn’t to point fingers only so you would have a better understanding of why you don’t have it yet, the bottom line is the Sensation has T-Mobile’s and HTC’s name all over it and both companies want to make you proud to be a Sensation owner so we are working as fast as we can to deliver it but also want to make sure that it stands up to your expectations.”
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tl;dr it says that, the ROM that HTC made didn't meet T-Mobile's expectations and has to be fixed by HTC... then sent to T-Mobile to test the ROM equalizing MORE delay
I know OP has Verizon, but that's kind of your fault for using Verizon. We all know how it is when it comes to Verizon and keeping a tight control over their phones. I personally don't consider Galaxy Nexus (LTE) to be a "Nexus" device. It comes bloated with VZW apps, Verizon has to approve the update by Google, Factory images are no longer uploaded, etc.
Kind of off-topic but I'd love to see the idea of Google buying T-Mobile USA from Deutsche Telekom (owners of T-Mobile USA) then we would never have to worry about carriers trying to keep a tight grip on their phones. Not to mention then tight integration between Google services such as Google Voice would be tightly integrated between the carrier and Google services. Just a dream of mines.
Oh lord. Not another 'The Verizon Nexus is not a Nexus device' comment.
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adrynalyne said:
Because...when something goes wrong, and they do not make their timeline, people would throw a fit, even more than they do now.
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But I'm not asking for an eta or timeline. Just something like "here's what we're doing this month, or even this quarter."
adrynalyne said:
Oh lord. Not another 'The Verizon Nexus is not a Nexus device' comment.
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Yea, everyone knows true Nexus devices only come with half the storage space and only on less desirable carriers.
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Yea, everyone knows true Nexus devices only come with half the storage space and only on less desirable carriers.
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Ah, my bad
I'm gonna guess the OTA will come with the white 16 gig version on April 5th, and that the white Gnexs will come with 4.0.5 loaded. Just a hunch. The rumors have been early April, so on Thursday or that weekend is my guess.
Well, I don't know about everyone else, but my "fake" Nexus has had 4.0.4 for a long time now. I've seen 2 updates since I bought my Nexus (fairly early after release). Not EVERY update comes via OTA. The Nexus line has ALWAYS been like this. At any rate, my 3 month old "fake and unsupported" Nexus has already seen more updates than my Vibrant ever did.
As far as GSM users complaining over updates, shut up. Your phones didn't need the updates that Google implemented for the CDMA version. I don't want fixes for a phone that isn't mine. I don't want Google releasing something that isn't ready. Radio issues are up to Samsung and the carrier, not Google. Stop whining about Google. Stop thinking Google is the hold up. Google isn't the hold up. Samsung is the hold up. If you have a CDMA version, blame Samsung and Verizon. If you're GSM, place the blame where it largely belongs, on Samsung.
For some reason 80% of people on this forum seem to think that Nexus means that you get an update every month or something like that. Like we should be on 4.1.7 by now or something like that. It's the most insanely retarded community I think I've ever seen in my life.
As a member of the choir and a Verizon customer for12 years
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Keep preaching.
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Yea, everyone knows true Nexus devices only come with half the storage space and only on less desirable carriers.
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Verizon is a less-desirable carrier for me. Just sayin'.
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I like Android more than iphone but at least with iPhone you usually know some of the fixes that are in the works.
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and since when do you know about iphone updates before release? Apple is the most secretive tech company ever. They only comment on issues when they get really out of hand and media goes all over it (like the recent address book privacy issues or the better known antennagate).
iOS does have private betas though, which is kinda the equivalent of aosp for android in terms of release schedules. aosp 4.0.4 >>> 8 months >>> oem 4.0.4 updates
Why am I waiting on VZW for 4.0.4? I understood (or misunderstood) the Nexus line to get their updates directly from Google. This played a significant role in my decision to go with the Galaxy Nexus. So, what changed? I'm sure the Nexus One got updates direct from Google...didn't it? Also, I noticed a couple VZW branded uninstallable apps preloaded on it...why is there ANYTHING non-Google preloaded if it's "Pure Google?"
Man, I must have misunderstood something.
Because you are too lazy to root your phone?
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miketoasty said:
Because you are too lazy to root your phone?
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+1. Root it & put 4.0.4 on it yourself. Eff vzw.
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There wasn't a CDMA Nexus One, so yes it got its updates from Google.
This is actually nothing new, nothing has changed. Its been the exact same with the NS4G on Sprint. Verizon has closed-source radio code that they have to add themselves and test before sending it out. THAT is why you're waiting for Verizon.
As for the apps, just disable them and stop crying. Its the same deal, if a phone is gonna be on Verizon it's gonna have those apps.
If it bothers you that bad, buy a GSM model.
This has been argued/explained at length in many threads, blogs, podcasts and posts.
CDMA Nexii are slightly different. They get updates sent from Google to the carriers(ie Sprint and Verizon). GSM Nexii on the other hand, get updates directly from Google. It was known for a while now that this was the case, which means you didn't do your research.
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Because you are too lazy to root your phone?
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Shouldn't have to.
Anyway, it's clear that VZW is incapable of responsibly having a Nexus phone in their lineup. I hope they don't get one ever again unless Google manages to get some leverage on them like Apple does.
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Anyway, it's clear that VZW is incapable of responsibly having a Nexus phone in their lineup. I hope they don't get one ever again unless Google manages to get some leverage on them like Apple does.
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Apple doesn't have any special leverages over carriers for OS updates when compared to the Nexus. They need Verizon's proprietary code and testing just as much. They need the same with AT&T and Sprint.
We just don't get any leaks on iOS updates, and Apple only releases an iOS update when its ready for everyone. They don't release iOS earlier for their unlocked models because they want to release it for everyone at once. It'd be the exact same deal if Google held the update for everyone and didn't push it till Verizon was done.
And you're right, he shouldn't have to root his phone. If he wants to wait he can wait and he'll get the OTA when its pushed to everyone on the Verizon model. Rooting isn't the only way to get the OTA. It does come w/o rooting if you wait.
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Shouldn't have to.
Anyway, it's clear that VZW is incapable of responsibly having a Nexus phone in their lineup. I hope they don't get one ever again unless Google manages to get some leverage on them like Apple does.
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Like mentioned earlier VZW still customizes android with radios and bloatware. So despite the newest Google android releases for GSM deices VZW still tinkers with the latest version goes through a testing phase then pushes it to end users eventually. The beauty of a Nexus phone is user freedom to customize and use roms with ease. Quit waiting on Big Red, take your phone back flash the latest software yourself.
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Like mentioned earlier VZW still customizes android with radios and bloatware. So despite the newest Google android releases for GSM deices VZW still tinkers with the latest version goes through a testing phase then pushes it to end users eventually. The beauty of a Nexus phone is user freedom to customize and use roms with ease. Quit waiting on Big Red, take your phone back flash the latest software yourself.
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VZW doesn't customize anything. The bloatware is just like 2-3 apps that are Verizon apps.
Radios are handled by Samsung.
Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't a true 'nexus' device. People will debate with me but honestly it isn't,
1) No images flashed to 4.0.4 (they are archived on Google's website to 4.0.2 now but won't be updated).
2) Carrier has to approve update.
If you want the true Nexus feeling, get the GSM model of the phone.
If you don't want to root / flash your phone, then don't complain about not getting 4.0.4. GSM users have to wait for the OTA as well unless they root and manually flash. You can manually flash 4.0.4 OTA on VZW as well.
But GSM will get it first because they dont have to be approved.
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VZW doesn't customize anything. The bloatware is just like 2-3 apps that are Verizon apps.
Radios are handled by Samsung.
Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't a true 'nexus' device. People will debate with me but honestly it isn't,
1) No images flashed to 4.0.4 (they are archived on Google's website to 4.0.2 now but won't be updated).
2) Carrier has to approve update.
If you want the true Nexus feeling, get the GSM model of the phone.
If you don't want to root / flash your phone, then don't complain about not getting 4.0.4. GSM users have to wait for the OTA as well unless they root and manually flash. You can manually flash 4.0.4 OTA on VZW as well.
But GSM will get it first because they dont have to be approved.
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what you stated here and was really my trying point is that veriosn needs to approve the software including the 2 to 3 apps and radios before the push to users ... i don't think anyone can deny that verison's version isn't true nexus
the only real nexus's are the Yakju/Takju builds ... which any gsm version could be converted to
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VZW doesn't customize anything. The bloatware is just like 2-3 apps that are Verizon apps.
Radios are handled by Samsung.
Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't a true 'nexus' device. People will debate with me but honestly it isn't,
1) No images flashed to 4.0.4 (they are archived on Google's website to 4.0.2 now but won't be updated).
2) Carrier has to approve update.
If you want the true Nexus feeling, get the GSM model of the phone.
If you don't want to root / flash your phone, then don't complain about not getting 4.0.4. GSM users have to wait for the OTA as well unless they root and manually flash. You can manually flash 4.0.4 OTA on VZW as well.
But GSM will get it first because they dont have to be approved.
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They are updating what binaries they can provide, so don't be so sure they won't be updating images. Your definition of a true Nexus and mine differ.
VZW Galaxy Nexus still gets updates directly from Google. It just has to be put under review/testing from Verizon before it gets pushed.
Plus, who actually depends on the OTA? You're on XDA after all.
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zephiK said:
VZW doesn't customize anything. The bloatware is just like 2-3 apps that are Verizon apps.
Radios are handled by Samsung.
Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't a true 'nexus' device. People will debate with me but honestly it isn't,
1) No images flashed to 4.0.4 (they are archived on Google's website to 4.0.2 now but won't be updated).
2) Carrier has to approve update.
If you want the true Nexus feeling, get the GSM model of the phone.
If you don't want to root / flash your phone, then don't complain about not getting 4.0.4. GSM users have to wait for the OTA as well unless they root and manually flash. You can manually flash 4.0.4 OTA on VZW as well.
But GSM will get it first because they dont have to be approved.
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The radios are handled by Qualcomm/Verizon. It's a "true" nexus device. It meets all the criteria. Just because it gets a .0.1 revision update a week later (or whatever it was) doesn't mean ****. Seriously? Gonna cry of a couple small bug fixes? As to the CDMA binaries not being available, talk to Qualcomm, they made most of the binaries/radios.
You may not have to wait much longer. Vzw started to push 4.0.4 (Imm76K) last week.
It's in the Vzw Dev forum if you don't want to wait and don't mind unlocking and rooting
You guys are really proud of rooting your phone. Sounds like you need something bigger in your life. I ask a few questions and suddenly I'm lazy & crying. Really, if this is big enough to get upset over, then you need to lay off the internet a little. Go find something worth getting upset over.
No one is upset. In the time it took creating this thread and replying to posts, you could have rooted and been on 4.0.4. I think that's the point everyone's trying to convey.
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meganame said:
You guys are really proud of rooting your phone. Sounds like you need something bigger in your life. I ask a few questions and suddenly I'm lazy & crying. Really, if this is big enough to get upset over, then you need to lay off the internet a little. Go find something worth getting upset over.
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No need to meet harshness with harshness.
Its obvious you're upset about this whole thing or you wouldn't have created a thread about it. You need to just decide what's important to you, read up on it, and if you find you don't want to "wait for Verizon" then I'll tell you again to buy a GSM model.
keith.mcintyre26 said:
No one is upset. In the time it took creating this thread and replying to posts, you could have rooted and been on 4.0.4. I think that's the point everyone's trying to convey.
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Ah, well those words conveyed it better.
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No one is upset. In the time it took creating this thread and replying to posts, you could have rooted and been on 4.0.4. I think that's the point everyone's trying to convey.
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Not really helping... I think what he's trying to get people to understand is that he shouldn't have to root to get the OTA. And all people on XDA do is say "shut up noob, just root your ph0n3".
OP, whether you like it or not this thread is going to turn into a nasty, nasty flame war in a couple pages. Sorry.
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Not really helping... I think what he's trying to get people to understand is that he shouldn't have to root to get the OTA. And all people on XDA do is say "shut up noob, just root your ph0n3".
OP, whether you like it or not this thread is going to turn into a nasty, nasty flame war in a couple pages. Sorry.
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Its true.
They should really stress the fact that XDA is a development site and not Verizon support forums.
Seriously though, you came on XDA and posted this thread. You could've rooted, unlocked, and flashed 4.0.4 by now.
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martonikaj said:
Apple doesn't have any special leverages over carriers for OS updates when compared to the Nexus. They need Verizon's proprietary code and testing just as much. They need the same with AT&T and Sprint.
We just don't get any leaks on iOS updates, and Apple only releases an iOS update when its ready for everyone. They don't release iOS earlier for their unlocked models because they want to release it for everyone at once. It'd be the exact same deal if Google held the update for everyone and didn't push it till Verizon was done.
And you're right, he shouldn't have to root his phone. If he wants to wait he can wait and he'll get the OTA when its pushed to everyone on the Verizon model. Rooting isn't the only way to get the OTA. It does come w/o rooting if you wait.
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Apple most definitely has leverage over carriers. If they didn't, you'd see bloatware on subsidized iPhones & updates being pushed at different times. Leaks don't matter because Apple makes their beta iOS builds readily available to those enrolled in the iOS development program.
A lot of fandroids don't want to admit that there ARE benefits to being a control freak, especially when you're one of the richest and most famous companies in the entire world. Apple doesn't order VZW around, but you can be damn sure that VZW doesn't order Apple around either. VZW telling Apple what changes they want made to the OS? LOL, not going to happen.
I received an OTA software update with build number IMM76Q. Has anyone else received it?
Get us a logcat before installing please.
945kb...
Hmm.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Must be the gimping of the search bar
NeoMagus said:
Must be the gimping of the search bar
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My exact thoughts!!
Yeah. 949 kb is tinyyyyy. I can't believe Verizon would be this quick about an update Google has been working on for a week and released a day or two ago! But no..... a somewhat major software revision has to take 2 months. I realize the fact that it is only a very, very small update, and it doesn't change any major software/radio stuff... but still. You know what would be cool? If verizon pushed out software updates (i.e 4.0.4, 4.1) clean at first, then follow up with a second update on the radios.
Lol nice "screenshot".
martonikaj said:
Lol nice "screenshot".
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Next generation screenshot.
El Madhatter said:
I received an OTA software update with build number IMM76Q. Has anyone else received it?
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Did you manage to get the file name for us yet?
If you've already installed it, the easiest way would be to look through the log files in /cache with a text viewer and look for a file name ending in .zip.
Thanks!
Wierd, even verizons support site doesn't have this update listed. http://support.verizonwireless.com/system_update/galaxynexus.html. Normally they list the update a few days before roll out on that site. Unless they really had to rush to get around the ban. Curious what's in this update, or if its real.
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Wierd, even verizons support site doesn't have this update listed. http://support.verizonwireless.com/system_update/galaxynexus.html. Normally they list the update a few days before roll out on that site. Unless they really had to rush to get around the ban. Curious what's in this update, or if its real.
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As was mentioned, it is probably the disabling of the "local search" feature of the search bar.
martonikaj said:
Lol nice "screenshot".
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Its the screen shot of all screen shots... Aero Shot ... comes in Jellybean lol
-Google
If anyone else gets the OTA, please post the filename here so I can update randomphantasmagoria.com. Thanks!
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As was mentioned, it is probably the disabling of the "local search" feature of the search bar.
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Yeah, i know thats what it probably is. Verizon just always puts out a pdf on the support sites of their phones no matter how minuscule the update is. Like one that turned off the initial 4g free tethering last year said something like "enables 4g tethering plans" or something like that. Oh you tricky VZ...
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Yeah, i know thats what it probably is. Verizon just always puts out a pdf on the support sites of their phones no matter how minuscule the update is. Like one that turned off the initial 4g free tethering last year said something like "enables 4g tethering plans" or something like that. Oh you tricky VZ...
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Definitely very weird that VZW wouldn't have updated the support PDFs. They update those things religiously when there's an OTA.
I hope this IMM76Q update isn't another IMM30B where someone accidentally pushes it to a few devices, shuts it off, and it fades into the ether, leaving anyone who applied the update stranded.
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Yeah. 949 kb is tinyyyyy. I can't believe Verizon would be this quick about an update Google has been working on for a week and released a day or two ago! But no..... a somewhat major software revision has to take 2 months. I realize the fact that it is only a very, very small update, and it doesn't change any major software/radio stuff... but still. You know what would be cool? If verizon pushed out software updates (i.e 4.0.4, 4.1) clean at first, then follow up with a second update on the radios.
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Technically, the updates come from Google. Since this update has nothing to do with aspects that would be specific to carrier use they probably didn't involve Verizon in this one.
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Technically, the updates come from Google. Since this update has nothing to do with aspects that would be specific to carrier use they probably didn't involve Verizon in this one.
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As far as I'm aware, that's not an option. I believe VZW has to test and approve every single OTA that goes out to a phone on their network, regardless of how small or whether there is anything carrier-specific in it.
Apple is the lone exception to this rule. Verizon lets them do whatever the hell they want with the iPhone and iPad.
I spoke to a verizon tech rep this week---he said there was an update pending and suggested it was more about a radio fix. However, I'd take that with a grain of salt
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As far as I'm aware, that's not an option. I believe VZW has to test and approve every single OTA that goes out to a phone on their network, regardless of how small or whether there is anything carrier-specific in it.
Apple is the lone exception to this rule. Verizon lets them do whatever the hell they want with the iPhone and iPad.
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That's very unfortunate then.
It's probably just an update regarding the whole patent situation