Hey guys,
I'm not allowed to post in the development forum yet. So putting my question here.
I've been using the virtuous sense Rom on my desire z since past couple of months and just love it. No other rom has come close to its smoothness and usability. I wanted to know whether the development on this rom has been stopped or is the team planning to update it anytime soon.
Will really appreciate if someone has any info.
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I'm not affiliated with the virtuous team, but I don't think there will be any relevant updates in the foreseeable future. The rom is based on official ota updates for the desire z, similar to g-lite. It's, as I understand it, basically only a stripped down and optimized version of the last ota update, with things such as 4-way reboot options added.
So any future updates first require a new ota update, which I'm unsure if we'll ever see. Since we finally got the gingerbread update and at least as far as I know there haven't been any announcements concerning a possible Sense/ICS update.
Thanks. Well I was kinda hoping they put in some bits and pieces of sense 3.0 or make it even more faster.
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[Q] Android 2.3 "Gingerbread" official, will developers bring it to Droid Incredible?
With Android 2.3 "Gingerbread" finally announced and rolling out to NEXUS ONE users as of today, will the XDA developer community be porting the OS to our Droid Incredible's? I wonder how long it will take HTC to roll out 2.3.
Will we see one?
I also must know. I presume that CyanogenMod will come first and that Sense with 2.3 may take longer to be ported.
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ThugEsquire said:
I also must know. I presume that CyanogenMod will come first and that Sense with 2.3 may take longer to be ported.
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If my memory serves me correctly, 2.2 was announced in May and we saw it on Droid Incredible July 31st
I am a noob to these forums and this seemed the best place to ask considering it is a Q&A forum. Considering the G2 is a stock android device how hard would it be to make a stock gingerbread ROM for it? Are any devs out there working on it? Is teamdouche working on CM v7 based on 2.3? I have been looking around for any inclination of this but have seen none whilst other devices get gingerbread ported over/compiled for them. Just want to know the status (or hopefully an ETA) on a Gingerbread ROM for the G2. If I posted this in the wrong place or this has been posted before my apologies.
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I don't know if it's out yet, mang... but I'm sure that once it is, it'll be a hot commodity. The modding community is absolutely amazing and I think they seriously need to be hired by some of the mobile companies out there. Their work is fantastic.
well nobody can make a rom or anything until the source code is released...and that hasnt happend yet. as soon as the nexus s comes out (which is this week) then the source code will be extracted from gingerbread and itll be able to be used. right now we just had a SDK file, and that really isnt used for anything but looks. mainly used for themes and such.
Then why does the EVO have a full working ROM for gingerbread? I believe the DESIRE and the HD2 also have it going.
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There isn't a working gingerbread ROM for the EVO, it's just FroYo with some parts ripped from 2.3. Gingerbread will be released in a couple of days along with the Nexus S, after which the AOSP will be ported to existing devices - but it'll still be a few days, if not weeks until something stable comes out.
I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
My apologies for my ignorance. I thought they were actual 2.3 builds considering the XDA posted list says "devices running gingerbread". So absolutly nothing can happen with gingerbread until a device with gingerbread (nexus S) comes out?
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Cyanogen will not port it to the G2until 2.3 is released for the G2.
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My apologies for my ignorance. I thought they were actual 2.3 builds considering the XDA posted list says "devices running gingerbread". So absolutly nothing can happen with gingerbread until a device with gingerbread (nexus S) comes out?
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Not a problem, you were just asking
All we have running Gingerbread right now is the android emulator, from which we can pull apk's and libs, but most of them need tweaking to get them to work on FroYo. Plus I don't know if the market works on Gingerbread.
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Cyanogen will not port it to the G2until 2.3 is released for the G2.
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Is that an actual statement from teamdouche/cyanogen or just from studying release behavior in the past? When you say release you mean T-mo pushes it as an OTA correct, I know someone on here will "release" 2.3 long before T-mo stamps it for approval.
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Not a problem, you were just asking
All we have running Gingerbread right now is the android emulator, from which we can pull apk's and libs, but most of them need tweaking to get them to work on FroYo. Plus I don't know if the market works on Gingerbread.
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So at the moment there is no actual gingerbread (save for the reveiw models floating around phonedog,mobileburn,etc are unboxing) out just froyo with the modified characteristics of gingerbread? Pardon the question if it seems silly, most of the comment went over my head.
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I'll bet we have a ported ROM before New Years, usually a huge release like this gets all the attention of the devs. Especially since with perm-root, s-off and several stable 2.2 ROMs, the devs don't have all that much to work on atm.
Team Villain were working on one, but it became clear that there was going to be no way to make Audio work until AOSP is out so its on hold until then.
and without audio a phone is useless, no ringing, no sound in calls, no music etc etc
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Team Villain were working on one, but it became clear that there was going to be no way to make Audio work until AOSP is out so its on hold until then.
and without audio a phone is useless, no ringing, no sound in calls, no music etc etc
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Definatley looking forward to it when Villain gets their hands on the source code. I bet T-mo's is going to be ladened with the same bloatware that their 2.2 install on the G2 had.
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Well atleast we have the themes for now, that will hold me over for a couple weeks but not to impressed by the nexus s enough to shell out $520 I might just buy vibrant when functional gingerbread port is out allot cheaper and almost same phone well close anyway.
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Honestly I would wait if your shelling out any money for anything samsung just placed a MASSIVE order for tegra 2's today which hints at dualcore phones sometime in q1 or Q2 next year hopefully. Wait for the qualcomm dualcore and nvidia dualcore wars to begin.
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Anyone know roughly how long it takes google to drop the source in aosp after the sdk is released?
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Cyanogen will not port it to the G2until 2.3 is released for the G2.
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Highly doubt that's true. I came from a CDMA Hero running CM6 RC1 (Froyo) and as most of us know, the lower end devices (such as the Hero), never got an official 2.2, yet there was a fully functional, highly stable CM6 out for it.
Which ran magnificently BTW.
Ah yeah, those seem to be more like proof of concept. Once a retail version of handsets start coming out with Gingerbread, as well as the source code, I imagine we'll start seeing custom ROMs based off it.
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Honestly I would wait if your shelling out any money for anything samsung just placed a MASSIVE order for tegra 2's today which hints at dualcore phones sometime in q1 or Q2 next year hopefully. Wait for the qualcomm dualcore and nvidia dualcore wars to begin.
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Thats all i needed to hear...samsung should'nt getanybody money with their softaware build qaulity and support
Gingerbread doesn't seem to be very promising though, what's with all this hype around it?? The update seems pretty piss poor to be honest. Nothing much.
I know this has been asked in the past and the answer was no since HTC hadn't released any 2.3 based updates.. but now there has been one outside of N.America, I was curious to know if anyone had taken up the cause for our phone? I know somethings would be missing for our device, but couldn't they be adopted/edited from the HD or froyo Sense Like previous ROMs?
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The answer still would be no.
I was hoping for a more defined answer.. possibly with a little explanation?
We see Roms ported from other devices constantly.. hell that's where half the Roms start.. as a port from another phone.. HD Sense (or new sense depending on Rom) is a port from another phone.. and iirc the phone that got the 2.3 sense was a foreign version of the HTC HD2 which would make it even easier wouldn't it
Edit: see http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-huashan-gingerbread-dump-with-sense/ for more info
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Devs only port roms if there is a massive cry out for them. Also, I more or less read the whole thread and it seems that devs are having trouble with porting it. HD2 is WM 6.5 so it already is completely different. I don't know. Ask a dev why. Just wait till q2 when Desire gets official update.
Sense would have to be re-written to work with 2.3 and it's far too much of a ballache, it's not as simple as taking 2.3 and putting Sense from 2.2 on top of it. Better to wait on the Desire S ROMs to leak and just port it to the Desire
I think you guys are understanding this wrong... THERE IS a gingerbread official release with Sense according to the XDA news story.There is even a full dump of it in that thread.. I was asking if anyone had looked into building a desire Rom based on it.
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mikeandjaimie said:
I think you guys are understanding this wrong... THERE IS a gingerbread official release with Sense according to the XDA news story.There is even a full dump of it in that thread.. I was asking if anyone had looked into building a desire Rom based on it.
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i def see it being ported to roms. everything always does. and leedroid recently announced he wasnt releasing a update for leedroid 2.3d until 2.3 with sense was released. he recently posted there should b a update in the next 2-3 days. posts below that signified a gingerbread sense release. id like to see how the 2 will work together b4 i update thou
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i def see it being ported to roms. everything always does. and leedroid recently announced he wasnt releasing a update for leedroid 2.3d until 2.3 with sense was released. he recently posted there should b a update in the next 2-3 days. posts below that signified a gingerbread sense release. id like to see how the 2 will work together b4 i update thou
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When you say there should be an update in the next 2-3 days, there is no way HTC will release Gingerbread with Sense 2.3 to the HTC Desire, HD and Z before the Desire S is released in the UK. And after that it will still be some time to let the exclusive features of the new Incredible, Desire S and Wildfire S to take off? Otherwise what would be the point in the new phones, everyone would just wait for a software update right? Personally i'm still running a branded Orange Froyo ROM, the second an official build of Gingerbread with Sense 2.3 is released i'll de-brand and jump on that.
So I heard Desire is officialy dead. Is it really official or just a rumor?
I heard it was a zombie sucking out the brains of other "smartphones"...
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So I heard Desire is officialy dead. Is it really official or just a rumor?
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If u mean about the official updates, that is possible, as gingerbread should be the final android version that htc gave us..maybe some minor security fix later eventually..but we will still have cm and miui that will give us the latest android version available of course
Well minor GB updates should be possible. I mean, it's not like complete overhaul like 2.2 -> 2.3 was.
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Well minor GB updates should be possible. I mean, it's not like complete overhaul like 2.2 -> 2.3 was.
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i don't know about minor updates..because they didn't release the ota for all user (and they will not do that in future), its only an ruu for devs..
I doubt any updates will come our way. That would really be too much to ask. I think that Desire will be discontinued soon enough anyway.
When i wanted to buy my Desire, Vodafone Romania was out of stock. When asked when will a new shipment arrive, they've told me that the device is listed as End Of Life and no new ones will be brought. They have since removed it from their website/on-line market.
IMO, there will be no further updates for the Desire, either OTA or RUU.
Yea sad but true. A more than 1,5 year old phone is around EOL. Htc need their customers to move on to newer more profitable phones.
edit: also just checked. Almost any store i can think of have taken it off their product list.
Yep it has been discontinued.
Its on the HTC website. I doubt they would remove it off that.
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I have also checked on several local stores near mhome, they do not provide any new Desire ...not anymore...
I guess this is it...
But how long the custom ROM will provide support/update to our Desire
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But how long the custom ROM will provide support/update to our Desire
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I have saved lots of Roms, themes, Apks, Hboots and mods so whenever the Desire Devs move on I still have plenty to play with. Sometimes nostalgia is good.
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I have saved lots of Roms, themes, Apks, Hboots and mods so whenever the Desire Devs move on I still have plenty to play with. Sometimes nostalgia is good.
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and what u will do? play with old things?
no, the solution is cm and miui...they will give us the latest android version available untill the hardware can support it..so maybe more than 1 year at least (android 2.5?)
As long as the Nexus One gets new updates, be it Ice-Cream sandwhich or even the next Android iteration that comes after it, I'm sure the dev's will continue to cook us new roms up to a point where it is no longer possible.
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zombrainy said:
As long as the Nexus One gets new updates, be it Ice-Cream sandwhich or even the next Android iteration that comes after it, I'm sure the dev's will continue to cook us new roms up to a point where it is no longer possible.
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There is no need to cook and porting when dev can build it from the source
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Yep it has been discontinued.
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think it'll drop to £89 then?
With all the custom ROMs about I think the desire will plod on for some time yet
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Rumours about android 5.0 are starting to spread and I'd thought to make a discussion topic about it here.
Google says android 5.0 is more optimized than Jellybean. Thus so it can also run well on devices with 512 ram.
We havent seen that kind of android since gingerbread.
Now we all know HTC left our One V hanging regarding Jellybean, of course there are Jellybean ROM developers but it would be nice if HTC hooked us up.
Even though HTC might not roll the update for Key Lime Pie out to our One V's, I am still very curious how this version of android would run on our devices.
Let me know what you think by commenting below,
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I thought 4.3 jb was gonna be announced. I'm positive though that HTC won't upgrade us at all. So custom Rom development is the only way we would get klp when google announces and finishes it.
The hero CDMA can run jb (after being dropped at eclair) so so I'm sure our phones will run 4.3 and 5 unofficially.
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whoshotjr2006 said:
I thought 4.3 jb was gonna be announced. I'm positive though that HTC won't upgrade us at all. So custom Rom development is the only way we would get klp when google announces and finishes it.
The hero CDMA can run jb (after being dropped at eclair) so so I'm sure our phones will run 4.3 and 5 unofficially.
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To be honest I'm not sure HTC would revisit old devices but like you said, there'll be unofficial ways. It's like I got my A3333 Wildfire running CM10.