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The predominant reasoning for this on the interwebz was because of the 'curve' of the screen. I never did understand if this was the concave curve of the screen from top to bottom or the convex curve of the screen around the edges. (you know...the one that makes dry screen protectors bubble up around the edges if they are not a few mm smaller)
HOWEVER,
This morning, Anandtech released their review of the Nokia Lumia 800. That phone has both macro and micro curves (I've held the N9 with the same glass) and that glass is Corning Gorilla glass!
I understand that Gorilla glass can be scratched with a material hard enough etc.,etc. I just want to point out, it doesn't seem to be a technological limitation that keeps Gorilla Glass from our phones.
Below is the incomplete link:
Anandtech.com/show/5266/nokia-lumia-800-review-nokias-brave-new-foray-into-wp7/6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLC61JxsJQ
And what will you do with the information about why it doesn't have gorilla glass? It doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have it.
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I thought the screen was made of a tough glazing by Corning but not Gorilla glass. I treat this almost the same as my Motorola stuff but I did case the back of it because it's like paper. I'm much more worried about the back than the screen.
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It's funny cuz you can't scratch any phone screen ever with keys...
I managed to scratch mine within days of getting it. I'm not sure how, but it's rather frustrating. It would be nice if it remained pristine for at least a few weeks...
My GN has a hair line scratch that can be seen at an angle on a black screen. Its a bit annoying since im OCD but compared to my Epic 4G and the abuse that one went through its kinda sad.
Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
3devious said:
I thought the screen was made of a tough glazing by Corning but not Gorilla glass. I treat this almost the same as my Motorola stuff but I did case the back of it because it's like paper. I'm much more worried about the back than the screen.
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I did hear that Corning has a new product out called 'Lotus glass'.....but the primary feature of that product (if I remember right) was large scratch resistant touch screen surfaces like TVs etc. I think there may be some physical limitation that keeps gorilla glass from being used on devices much larger than a laptop. Lotus glass was supposed to solve that.
But you're right, I KNOW the rest of the case is going to scuff. With or without a case. Just give it six months. Unless you go the polymer skins route.
Anyways......It isn't about what you're going to do with the information now. It was just interesting that the main reason cited as behind why Gorilla glass (and search ANY forum for the clamor behind the Gnex not having it) does not appear to be true.
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Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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I literally LOL'ed!
A few months back I said the hell with screen protectors on my Droid Incredible. I knew I was getting a new phone soon anyway. The incredible has gorilla glass, and it is now covered with a bunch of tiny little scratches. No glass is scratch proof, it's all in how you treat it. If you have a desk job and you are careful with you phone, you probably won't scratch it up too bad. If you work construction, you may still mess it up with an otter box.
If the nexus had gorilla glass there would still be threads about scratches on the screen. We probably went from a 95% chance that you won't scratch your screen to a 91% chance you won't scratch the screen with this new glass. If you don't buy it, look at most phones with gorilla glass that are not handled carefully and you'll see scratches.
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Glass is still glass. You can make it slightly stronger, but at the end it's still glass. Treat your large touchscreen phone well and you won't have problems.
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Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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I've Lol'ed so hard that my wife woke up
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Why does it matter what type of hardened glass it has? Do you know for a fact that the glass they went with for the galaxy nexus scratches easier than gorilla glass, or do you just know the gorilla glass "name" so you like to utter it like a monkey?
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Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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LOL m8 Loved your explanation
GinoSylum said:
A few months back I said the hell with screen protectors on my Droid Incredible. I knew I was getting a new phone soon anyway. The incredible has gorilla glass, and it is now covered with a bunch of tiny little scratches. No glass is scratch proof, it's all in how you treat it. If you have a desk job and you are careful with you phone, you probably won't scratch it up too bad. If you work construction, you may still mess it up with an otter box.
If the nexus had gorilla glass there would still be threads about scratches on the screen. We probably went from a 95% chance that you won't scratch your screen to a 91% chance you won't scratch the screen with this new glass. If you don't buy it, look at most phones with gorilla glass that are not handled carefully and you'll see scratches.
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Exactly! It all comes down to the user.
You scratched up an Incredible with Gorilla Glass, and I personally have had various phones w/o Gorilla Glass and I never use cases or screen protectors and they were all in mint condition when I passed them onto someone else.
So moral of the story, focus less on what brand the glass is and more on how you protect your phone.
Yup.. When I took care of my Incredible it was always in perfect shape. Then I stopped giving a crap when the Nexus was announced and I knew I was switching. Gorilla glass or not, scratches showed up.
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Ive never used a screen protector with my INC2 and tried hard as hell to be very careful with it but some how I got a small scratch in it within 3 weeks. I'm not sure how much less or more the GN screen is but I'm trying to avoid using a screen protector on it all because I love the naked feel.
You know what happened the last time I talked up Gorilla Glass on a Droid RAZR?
The guy I was talking to took the RAZR, banged it as hard as he could on the desk corner, and cracked/powdered the screen. "Not so tough," he said.
Moral of this story is you, the user, can protect your phone far better than any manufacturer.
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Everything is about $$.
Nexus has a few extra things that probably push it's cost higher, so they are likely going with an unbranded version, in order to keep the cost down enough.
I'm sure the screen is pretty costly in itself, while the Note is same resolution and tech - it's bigger so probably easier to make.
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Is it true that the screen of gnex does not have gorilla glass and is not protected and it only got Oleophobic coating?
Is it scrachable?
Yes, it don't have gorilla glass but it has an other kind of fortified glass. The oleophobic coating don't protect the screen. It only let it stay cleaner and make it easier to remove fingerprints.
Of course it is scratchable. Like every other glass, including gorilla glass. It is just way more scratch resistant than unfortified glass.
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yeah...but i heard that it is easier for the gnex to get scratched than other devices like s2 or the sensation...is it true?
No, that's not necessarily true. If you look up "Galaxy Nexus Scratch Test" you will find tons of videos and reviews about it. Just because it isn't Gorilla Glass doesn't mean it's not just as resistant (or even more-so by that matter)... GG is just a brand name that everyone creams their pants over, not necessarily better than a no-name brand... (same concept applies to pharmaceutical drugs )
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Unfortunately, Nexus screen is more vulnerable then other Samsung products.
Fortunately, there are procectors to solve the problem.
Hi. I looked for previous threads but wasn't able to find any...so sorry if this is a duplicate.
I saw on the web that various opinions were around on whether the Gnex needs a screen protector. I watched the key test as well on YouTube. Can anyone confirm if this screen is good enough to not require a protector?
Thanks all.
jeffreynothing43 said:
Hi. I looked for previous threads but wasn't able to find any...so sorry if this is a duplicate.
I saw on the web that various opinions were around on whether the Gnex needs a screen protector. I watched the key test as well on YouTube. Can anyone confirm if this screen is good enough to not require a protector?
Thanks all.
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Obviously not scratch proof. No gorilla glass. Yes to the arguably "reinforced" glass. As long as you don't put your phone in with keys, coins, etc...you should be fine. I don't use a screen protector or case on mine and so far I only have a few nicks from light drops.
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Obviously not scratch proof. No gorilla glass. Yes to the arguably "reinforced" glass. As long as you don't put your phone in with keys, coins, etc...you should be fine. I don't use a screen protector or case on mine and so far I only have a few nicks from light drops.
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Watch out for sand, I'm pretty sure that's what scratched mine
There is no scratch proof glass on phones. Even Gorilla Glass scratches against things like sand.
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Well gorilla glass is not much more than Cornings branded version of the hardened glass found on any phone including the GN. It is as resistant as any phone, but as it's still glass, it's likely that it will scratch. Personally mine has a bunch of tiny scratches(had it since launch). I bet they are caused by sand, and they are no better or worse than my previous phone with gorilla glass.
Whether you need a screen-protector is a question of whether you will be more annoyed by the protector or the tiny scratches. But it is likely that you will get tiny scratches.
My experience:
Galaxy Skyrocket with Gorilla glass: 1 1/2 years without a single scratch.
Galaxy Nexus: scratched in the first month.
Get a screen protector. These screens are pretty soft. It will easily scratch just from being in your pocket.
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I've had mine for about 15 months, and I try to be careful with the phone. But try as I may, things happen. My glass is still crystal clear and free of any visible scratches, but there are multiple spots on the bezel around the glass that are scratched and pitted. I don't use any screen protectors or a case.
tdf666 said:
Get a screen protector. These screens are pretty soft. It will easily scratch just from being in your pocket.
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no it wont. just being in your pocket will NOT scratch the screen. however, if you have some sand in there or something harder than glass, it will scratch it.
i have had my phone for 14 months now, NEVER had a screen protector on it. and i JUST got my first scratch and i believe it was from a grain of sand on my thumb. i spend a LOT of time at the beach in Feb and March (live in Florida ) and its my only guess as to how it happened.
if you are careful, you should be OK without one....but getting one is probably a good idea if you are around sand a lot.
Yes it scratches
- wore out your welcome
Got mine at launch, no screen protector and no major scratches. There are a couple MINOR ones but nothing that can bee seen without careful inspection. I don't abuse the phone but I also don't baby it. I have used a holster and had it in my pocket. Go naked you will be fine if you don't abuse it.
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bpyazel said:
There is no scratch proof glass on phones. Even Gorilla Glass scratches against things like sand.
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Common misconception: Gorilla glass is not scratch resistant. If anything, slightly shatterproof.
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Common misconception: Gorilla glass is not scratch resistant. If anything, slightly shatterproof.
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The misconception is what exactly a "scratch" is. A layer of glass is actually removed and cannot be "fixed". Anything will scratch if rubbed against an abrasive with a greater hardness.
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The misconception is what exactly a "scratch" is. A layer of glass is actually removed and cannot be "fixed". Anything will scratch if rubbed against an abrasive with a greater hardness.
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Agreed. My comment was just to reinforce the fact that unlike popular belief, gorilla glass is not at all scratch resistant but rather shatterproof. Not so much as an entire "layer".
Does tab s have gorilla glass? I don't see it on Samsung website. Thanks.
Found the answer myself: no gorilla glass on tab s.
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kliu888 said:
Found the answer myself: no gorilla glass on tab s.
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Are you for sure on that? I'm asking cause I know the Samsung Rep (over mobile devices) at Best Buy pretty well, and that was one of the first things I asked him when I went to look at this. He didn't flinch - assured me it was gorilla glass. He could obviously be dead wrong - but I'd also like to see specs definitively saying it isn't. I'll drop by and ask again as well - this is something I'd like to be sure of - because I don't think gorilla glass always has to have that plastic type feel that came on the Tab 7 8.3 a year and a half ago. I'd just like to know either way. .
I asked a best buy rep. Specs only list what it has, not what it has not. It's a good selling point so if it has one it would make sense for Samsung to list it in specs. On the other hand, if it doesn't have gorilla glass, they are definitely not going to say "Sorry, no gorilla glass" in the specs. But I hope the best buy guy was wrong.
Gorilla Glass has probably resulted in more scratched screens than non Gorilla Glass for one simple reason. It gives the user a false sense of security. While Gorilla Glass may protect against keys or coins scratching your tablet, it provides no protection at all against the #1 cause of screen scratches - grit.
Gorilla Glass has a hardness of 8 while grit (i.e. sand) has a hardness of 9. That means it WILL scratch Gorilla glass and quite easily. This is one reason you should always blow on your screen before wiping it. Regardless many people do not install screen protectors because they feel Gorilla Glass will protect them. It won't.
The moral of the story is - buy a high quality screen protector and install it. It is your only 100% assurance of keeping your beautiful screen in pristine condition.
So Google chose to go with Dragontail Glass rather than Gorilla Glass... How is it standing up? Is it worth it to get a tempered glass screen protector with it? And which Dragontail Glass is it, regular, X or Pro?
I haven't used a screen protector in years, mostly carry it in my shirt pocket and pants pocket by itself with nothing else, and haven't had any noticeable scratches or issues with the screen... I did order a simple Ringke Fusion case, but is a tempered glass screen protector really needed anymore?
I guess it is personal preference.
I still always use a tempered glass screen protector on my phones. I don't feel like they negatively affect the way I interact with the screen and Dragontail/Gorilla glass will still scratch. I also think it helps protect the screen if the phone is dropped. So for me, there is no downside and plenty of upside.
I put one on my XL as soon as it was unboxed. It actually has a crack in the screen protector right now - I think due to the fact that the phone flexes a little. I bought a box of 4 protectors, but I simply haven't had a chance to replace it yet. I'm not sure that whatever caused the screen protector to crack would have been enough to crack the phones screen if I didn't have the protector on it (I doubt that it would have - as I think it happened while the phone was in my pocket) but certainly having the screen protector on the phone helped strengthen the phone and prevented it from flexing as much as it would have without one.
Same hardness as the gorilla glass so if you weren't having scratching problems with naked gorilla you wont have problems with this screen. It does score lower than gorilla on bending break tests, there is a specific name for that test but I don't recall it. At an rate that isn't helped with glass screen protectors so you should be able to continue your naked ways without concern. I'm with you BTW, haven't used one in years and haven't had any problems.
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Same hardness as the gorilla glass so if you weren't having scratching problems with naked gorilla you wont have problems with this screen. It does score lower than gorilla on bending break tests, there is a specific name for that test but I don't recall it. At an rate that isn't helped with glass screen protectors so you should be able to continue your naked ways without concern. I'm with you BTW, haven't used one in years and haven't had any problems.
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Yeah, I've never had scratch issues before... Even after 2 years the screen is basically perfect. Thanks for confirming my hopes.
Like krabman said, it's the same hardness as Gorilla Glass. It might not be as likely to survive a drop as GG though.
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