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Check out the drop tests
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/17/wa...xy-s-ii-take-three-nasty-drops-onto-concrete/
I've already dropped mine three times and it still looks good.. mind you I have no case for it..
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One my first drop i got 2 big scratches
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You could take the audio from the first drop and loop it for the rest of the video and no one would know the difference.
OT: It's nice that it's resilient since my phone is always naked. I'm sure I'll drop it eventually...
There may be something else going on...
Granted, it doesn't have glass on the front and back like the iPhone, but I wouldn't expect the screen to be better than the iPhone's, in terms of impact resistance.
This may be a bit like the Mythbuster's episode, where they were trying to scale up that office chrome-ball executive toy up to the scale of wrecking balls...
Scaled up from small chrome balls to larger all steel balls, the experiment worked beautifully. When they scaled up to full-size however, they just used steel discs, and poured concrete on either side to simulate balls. And the experiment failed.
Why?
Steel is dense, and doesn't absorb energy. Concrete, apparently, does. Called "damping" in the audio world, they make special adhesive asphalt mats to stick to car sheet metal to absorb and "damp" vibrations in the panels
Although it's no Nerf phone, I'm thinking the SGSII's all plastic construction inside absorbs energy better than the aluminum and glass chassis on the iPhone.
And if it hit the screen, I think it would shatter like the iPhone. The difference here is, our screen is fully surrounded by plastic, where the iPhone screen is a fully exposed slab of glass rising above the aluminum antennas (sides of the phone). And back also. So, on a drop, there's more chance of actually impacting the glass.
Obviously having less glass to break helps, but the iPhone screen is more likely to break from a direct impact than the Samsung screen. iPhone's are known for being fragile, while Samsung uses Gorilla Glass which is known to be very durable by comparison. (I don't know if Apple uses any sort of special glass, or if the 4S is any different than it's predecessors.)
Why it's more resilient doesn't really matter though. At the end of the day, dropping your E4GT is far less likely to set you back repair costs than dropping your iPhone.
iPhone 4 uses gorilla glass, on both sides. That's why it shatters so easily... it resists scratches, but that process of increasing that strength makes it less flexible and shatters easier. That's the trade off of gorilla glass.
I've heard rumors the SGS glass uses gorilla glass, but you hear that rumor on any fan forum about every phone coming out by any manufacturer.
I'd believe it if there was one thing from Samsung saying that.
Iphone 4S - 140g.
SGS 2 - 116g.
I dropped mine a couple times. Then a few days later I noticed my screen was cracked. Its up on the top left corner and really hard to even notice.
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iPhone 4 uses gorilla glass, on both sides. That's why it shatters so easily... it resists scratches, but that process of increasing that strength makes it less flexible and shatters easier. That's the trade off of gorilla glass.
I've heard rumors the SGS glass uses gorilla glass, but you hear that rumor on any fan forum about every phone coming out by any manufacturer.
I'd believe it if there was one thing from Samsung saying that.
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As far as I was aware the iPhone uses Gorilla Glass ONLY on the front of the iPhone and NOT on the back which is why we see so many more cracked backs than fronts.
And Samsung HAS made it clear the SGS and SGSII use Gorilla Glass. It's been widely publicized and confirmed.
Iphone doesn't use Gorilla Glass.
Gorilla Glass is both scratch resistant and shatter resistant.
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As far as I was aware the iPhone uses Gorilla Glass ONLY on the front of the iPhone and NOT on the back which is why we see so many more cracked backs than fronts.
And Samsung HAS made it clear the SGS and SGSII use Gorilla Glass. It's been widely publicized and confirmed.
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I'll give you widely publicized, lol. But none of it officially. THAT would make it "confirmed'.
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Iphone 4S - 140g.
SGS 2 - 116g.
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both fall at the same rate, but force on iPhone from pavement is slightly larger.
Doesnt make much of the difference, the difference is the iPhone has less protected glass on both sides
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TurboFool said:
As far as I was aware the iPhone uses Gorilla Glass ONLY on the front of the iPhone and NOT on the back which is why we see so many more cracked backs than fronts.
And Samsung HAS made it clear the SGS and SGSII use Gorilla Glass. It's been widely publicized and confirmed.
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I dont see any Apple product listed
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
geolemon said:
iPhone 4 uses gorilla glass, on both sides. That's why it shatters so easily... it resists scratches, but that process of increasing that strength makes it less flexible and shatters easier. That's the trade off of gorilla glass.
I've heard rumors the SGS glass uses gorilla glass, but you hear that rumor on any fan forum about every phone coming out by any manufacturer.
I'd believe it if there was one thing from Samsung saying that.
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A little searching and you can find countless people that have checked with Samsung or Sprint directly. Samsung's on site explicitly states the SGSII has it: http://www.samsung.com/africa_en/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=27702. So does Corning: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list. It's not quite proof the E4GT has it though, but it's about as sure as you can be without seeing it on Samsung's site.
I see a lot of mixed information about the iPhone glass. Supposedly Apple claims it has Gorilla Glass on the back and front (I don't see it on their site), but many people think it may have regular glass on the back because there's a much higher rate of shattering the back glass compared to the front. It looks like it may be a custom glass that's similar to Gorilla Glass but falls short. In fact, the iPhone 4 is advertised on Apple's site as having an aluminosilicate screen. The wording on the iPhone 4S page is almost identical and neither type of glass is specifically mentioned, leading me to think it's not Gorilla Glass.
Regarding shatter resistance, there is no trade off. It most certainly does not shatter easier. Nowhere will you find that statement corroborated.
At the end of the day though, the iPhone seems to have a well documented history of fragility in comparison to known Gorilla Glass equipped smartphones. So far, the E4GT seems far more durable.
PS ilostmypistons: it says right on that page it's not a comprehensive list. And Apple is exactly the type of company I would expect to hide the 'technical' details. So that means the page can't be trusted completely.
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iPhone 4 uses gorilla glass, on both sides. That's why it shatters so easily... it resists scratches, but that process of increasing that strength makes it less flexible and shatters easier. That's the trade off of gorilla glass.
I've heard rumors the SGS glass uses gorilla glass, but you hear that rumor on any fan forum about every phone coming out by any manufacturer.
I'd believe it if there was one thing from Samsung saying that.
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thing is most brands of device do use Gorilla Glass...not all advertise it, the GG website gets updated every now and again to include it...it's not that expensive...and I don't get what the big deal is. It still shatters easily and sand can still scratch it so I need a screen protector, so, I don't really take claims of something supposedly having Gorilla Glass being all that unbelievable. Additionally I believe they sell the same exact formula hardened glass, likely for less, under a different moniker.
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geolemon said:
iPhone 4 uses gorilla glass, on both sides. That's why it shatters so easily... it resists scratches, but that process of increasing that strength makes it less flexible and shatters easier. That's the trade off of gorilla glass.
I've heard rumors the SGS glass uses gorilla glass, but you hear that rumor on any fan forum about every phone coming out by any manufacturer.
I'd believe it if there was one thing from Samsung saying that.
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There are videos of a guy using his car key to try and scratch his Samsung Galasy SII screen. This phone DOES have Gorilla Glass.
The predominant reasoning for this on the interwebz was because of the 'curve' of the screen. I never did understand if this was the concave curve of the screen from top to bottom or the convex curve of the screen around the edges. (you know...the one that makes dry screen protectors bubble up around the edges if they are not a few mm smaller)
HOWEVER,
This morning, Anandtech released their review of the Nokia Lumia 800. That phone has both macro and micro curves (I've held the N9 with the same glass) and that glass is Corning Gorilla glass!
I understand that Gorilla glass can be scratched with a material hard enough etc.,etc. I just want to point out, it doesn't seem to be a technological limitation that keeps Gorilla Glass from our phones.
Below is the incomplete link:
Anandtech.com/show/5266/nokia-lumia-800-review-nokias-brave-new-foray-into-wp7/6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLC61JxsJQ
And what will you do with the information about why it doesn't have gorilla glass? It doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have it.
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I thought the screen was made of a tough glazing by Corning but not Gorilla glass. I treat this almost the same as my Motorola stuff but I did case the back of it because it's like paper. I'm much more worried about the back than the screen.
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It's funny cuz you can't scratch any phone screen ever with keys...
I managed to scratch mine within days of getting it. I'm not sure how, but it's rather frustrating. It would be nice if it remained pristine for at least a few weeks...
My GN has a hair line scratch that can be seen at an angle on a black screen. Its a bit annoying since im OCD but compared to my Epic 4G and the abuse that one went through its kinda sad.
Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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I thought the screen was made of a tough glazing by Corning but not Gorilla glass. I treat this almost the same as my Motorola stuff but I did case the back of it because it's like paper. I'm much more worried about the back than the screen.
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I did hear that Corning has a new product out called 'Lotus glass'.....but the primary feature of that product (if I remember right) was large scratch resistant touch screen surfaces like TVs etc. I think there may be some physical limitation that keeps gorilla glass from being used on devices much larger than a laptop. Lotus glass was supposed to solve that.
But you're right, I KNOW the rest of the case is going to scuff. With or without a case. Just give it six months. Unless you go the polymer skins route.
Anyways......It isn't about what you're going to do with the information now. It was just interesting that the main reason cited as behind why Gorilla glass (and search ANY forum for the clamor behind the Gnex not having it) does not appear to be true.
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Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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I literally LOL'ed!
A few months back I said the hell with screen protectors on my Droid Incredible. I knew I was getting a new phone soon anyway. The incredible has gorilla glass, and it is now covered with a bunch of tiny little scratches. No glass is scratch proof, it's all in how you treat it. If you have a desk job and you are careful with you phone, you probably won't scratch it up too bad. If you work construction, you may still mess it up with an otter box.
If the nexus had gorilla glass there would still be threads about scratches on the screen. We probably went from a 95% chance that you won't scratch your screen to a 91% chance you won't scratch the screen with this new glass. If you don't buy it, look at most phones with gorilla glass that are not handled carefully and you'll see scratches.
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Glass is still glass. You can make it slightly stronger, but at the end it's still glass. Treat your large touchscreen phone well and you won't have problems.
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Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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I've Lol'ed so hard that my wife woke up
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Why does it matter what type of hardened glass it has? Do you know for a fact that the glass they went with for the galaxy nexus scratches easier than gorilla glass, or do you just know the gorilla glass "name" so you like to utter it like a monkey?
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Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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LOL m8 Loved your explanation
GinoSylum said:
A few months back I said the hell with screen protectors on my Droid Incredible. I knew I was getting a new phone soon anyway. The incredible has gorilla glass, and it is now covered with a bunch of tiny little scratches. No glass is scratch proof, it's all in how you treat it. If you have a desk job and you are careful with you phone, you probably won't scratch it up too bad. If you work construction, you may still mess it up with an otter box.
If the nexus had gorilla glass there would still be threads about scratches on the screen. We probably went from a 95% chance that you won't scratch your screen to a 91% chance you won't scratch the screen with this new glass. If you don't buy it, look at most phones with gorilla glass that are not handled carefully and you'll see scratches.
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Exactly! It all comes down to the user.
You scratched up an Incredible with Gorilla Glass, and I personally have had various phones w/o Gorilla Glass and I never use cases or screen protectors and they were all in mint condition when I passed them onto someone else.
So moral of the story, focus less on what brand the glass is and more on how you protect your phone.
Yup.. When I took care of my Incredible it was always in perfect shape. Then I stopped giving a crap when the Nexus was announced and I knew I was switching. Gorilla glass or not, scratches showed up.
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Ive never used a screen protector with my INC2 and tried hard as hell to be very careful with it but some how I got a small scratch in it within 3 weeks. I'm not sure how much less or more the GN screen is but I'm trying to avoid using a screen protector on it all because I love the naked feel.
You know what happened the last time I talked up Gorilla Glass on a Droid RAZR?
The guy I was talking to took the RAZR, banged it as hard as he could on the desk corner, and cracked/powdered the screen. "Not so tough," he said.
Moral of this story is you, the user, can protect your phone far better than any manufacturer.
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Everything is about $$.
Nexus has a few extra things that probably push it's cost higher, so they are likely going with an unbranded version, in order to keep the cost down enough.
I'm sure the screen is pretty costly in itself, while the Note is same resolution and tech - it's bigger so probably easier to make.
I read in many specification.. as you all know latest phones are having the GORILLA GLASS.. but why not in Galaxy nexus ?
Is this phone is a scratch resistant... ??? Or just a screen which will get scratches ?
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its scratch resistant to anything except sand and diamonds, anything which is stronger than glass will scratch it. even on Gorilla Glass.
It has reinforced glass- not quite as hard as Gorilla glass, cheaper, and possibly due to the curved screen. I hear it does scratch.
I would recomend a wet apply screen protector always, regardless of the quality/type of glass.
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I would recomend a wet apply screen protector always, regardless of the quality/type of glass.
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yea i have scratch resistant with it... bt still got confused... so nw m cleared it.. Thank you everyone
sashusmom said:
It has reinforced glass- not quite as hard as Gorilla glass, cheaper, and possibly due to the curved screen. I hear it does scratch.
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The nexus does scratch. Save yourself the headache and spend $2 on some screen protectors. Dry fit. Just use em til they get scratched and drop another one on and keep going. Cheap insurance IMO
Hi. I looked for previous threads but wasn't able to find any...so sorry if this is a duplicate.
I saw on the web that various opinions were around on whether the Gnex needs a screen protector. I watched the key test as well on YouTube. Can anyone confirm if this screen is good enough to not require a protector?
Thanks all.
jeffreynothing43 said:
Hi. I looked for previous threads but wasn't able to find any...so sorry if this is a duplicate.
I saw on the web that various opinions were around on whether the Gnex needs a screen protector. I watched the key test as well on YouTube. Can anyone confirm if this screen is good enough to not require a protector?
Thanks all.
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Obviously not scratch proof. No gorilla glass. Yes to the arguably "reinforced" glass. As long as you don't put your phone in with keys, coins, etc...you should be fine. I don't use a screen protector or case on mine and so far I only have a few nicks from light drops.
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Obviously not scratch proof. No gorilla glass. Yes to the arguably "reinforced" glass. As long as you don't put your phone in with keys, coins, etc...you should be fine. I don't use a screen protector or case on mine and so far I only have a few nicks from light drops.
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Watch out for sand, I'm pretty sure that's what scratched mine
There is no scratch proof glass on phones. Even Gorilla Glass scratches against things like sand.
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Well gorilla glass is not much more than Cornings branded version of the hardened glass found on any phone including the GN. It is as resistant as any phone, but as it's still glass, it's likely that it will scratch. Personally mine has a bunch of tiny scratches(had it since launch). I bet they are caused by sand, and they are no better or worse than my previous phone with gorilla glass.
Whether you need a screen-protector is a question of whether you will be more annoyed by the protector or the tiny scratches. But it is likely that you will get tiny scratches.
My experience:
Galaxy Skyrocket with Gorilla glass: 1 1/2 years without a single scratch.
Galaxy Nexus: scratched in the first month.
Get a screen protector. These screens are pretty soft. It will easily scratch just from being in your pocket.
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I've had mine for about 15 months, and I try to be careful with the phone. But try as I may, things happen. My glass is still crystal clear and free of any visible scratches, but there are multiple spots on the bezel around the glass that are scratched and pitted. I don't use any screen protectors or a case.
tdf666 said:
Get a screen protector. These screens are pretty soft. It will easily scratch just from being in your pocket.
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no it wont. just being in your pocket will NOT scratch the screen. however, if you have some sand in there or something harder than glass, it will scratch it.
i have had my phone for 14 months now, NEVER had a screen protector on it. and i JUST got my first scratch and i believe it was from a grain of sand on my thumb. i spend a LOT of time at the beach in Feb and March (live in Florida ) and its my only guess as to how it happened.
if you are careful, you should be OK without one....but getting one is probably a good idea if you are around sand a lot.
Yes it scratches
- wore out your welcome
Got mine at launch, no screen protector and no major scratches. There are a couple MINOR ones but nothing that can bee seen without careful inspection. I don't abuse the phone but I also don't baby it. I have used a holster and had it in my pocket. Go naked you will be fine if you don't abuse it.
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There is no scratch proof glass on phones. Even Gorilla Glass scratches against things like sand.
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Common misconception: Gorilla glass is not scratch resistant. If anything, slightly shatterproof.
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Common misconception: Gorilla glass is not scratch resistant. If anything, slightly shatterproof.
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The misconception is what exactly a "scratch" is. A layer of glass is actually removed and cannot be "fixed". Anything will scratch if rubbed against an abrasive with a greater hardness.
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The misconception is what exactly a "scratch" is. A layer of glass is actually removed and cannot be "fixed". Anything will scratch if rubbed against an abrasive with a greater hardness.
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Agreed. My comment was just to reinforce the fact that unlike popular belief, gorilla glass is not at all scratch resistant but rather shatterproof. Not so much as an entire "layer".
Does tab s have gorilla glass? I don't see it on Samsung website. Thanks.
Found the answer myself: no gorilla glass on tab s.
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kliu888 said:
Found the answer myself: no gorilla glass on tab s.
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Are you for sure on that? I'm asking cause I know the Samsung Rep (over mobile devices) at Best Buy pretty well, and that was one of the first things I asked him when I went to look at this. He didn't flinch - assured me it was gorilla glass. He could obviously be dead wrong - but I'd also like to see specs definitively saying it isn't. I'll drop by and ask again as well - this is something I'd like to be sure of - because I don't think gorilla glass always has to have that plastic type feel that came on the Tab 7 8.3 a year and a half ago. I'd just like to know either way. .
I asked a best buy rep. Specs only list what it has, not what it has not. It's a good selling point so if it has one it would make sense for Samsung to list it in specs. On the other hand, if it doesn't have gorilla glass, they are definitely not going to say "Sorry, no gorilla glass" in the specs. But I hope the best buy guy was wrong.
Gorilla Glass has probably resulted in more scratched screens than non Gorilla Glass for one simple reason. It gives the user a false sense of security. While Gorilla Glass may protect against keys or coins scratching your tablet, it provides no protection at all against the #1 cause of screen scratches - grit.
Gorilla Glass has a hardness of 8 while grit (i.e. sand) has a hardness of 9. That means it WILL scratch Gorilla glass and quite easily. This is one reason you should always blow on your screen before wiping it. Regardless many people do not install screen protectors because they feel Gorilla Glass will protect them. It won't.
The moral of the story is - buy a high quality screen protector and install it. It is your only 100% assurance of keeping your beautiful screen in pristine condition.