When you connect Wifi and you see the wifi bars and a 4G HSPA signal being received, is the 4g radio doing work?
Freezing My Account in Ti backup for some reason negates this, but I don't know why it does or what it solves. Just that theres no more "4G" when connected to wifi. Unfreeze to check data balance.
Yeah, I don't know what the issue is exactly. I never had that problem with my Vibrant, but my G2X was a lot worse than my SGS2.
Freezing MyAccount doesn't do anything IMO since we all have the same issue after freezing it.
My work around if it starts happening is turning off wifi- wait about a min- then turn it back on and that usually take 4G away. Or simply turn of data. Lucky for us we have toggles that do that.
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Use 2 x battery app or juice defender. Both will turnt
of data automatically when you cut on wifi so you can save some power and data usage
Is there any reason to upgrade/purchase Juice Defender? Or is the free app doing it's thing?
tiguy99 said:
Use 2 x battery app or juice defender. Both will turnt
of data automatically when you cut on wifi so you can save some power and data usage
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Why would you want to turn data off when connected to wifi? You won't get text messeages...
(And btw, Tasker can do this as well as about 1,000 other things.)
teh_lorax said:
Why would you want to turn data off when connected to wifi? You won't get text messeages...
(And btw, Tasker can do this as well as about 1,000 other things.)
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Data has nothing to do with text messaging.
verboten said:
Data has nothing to do with text messaging.
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Correct. Data off you can still send/ receive txt msg.
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mettleh3d said:
When you connect Wifi and you see the wifi bars and a 4G HSPA signal being received, is the 4g radio doing work?
Freezing My Account in Ti backup for some reason negates this, but I don't know why it does or what it solves. Just that theres no more "4G" when connected to wifi. Unfreeze to check data balance.
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My account only works over cell data, which is why you are seeing that 4G icon. Pretty annoying "feature".
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Why would you want to turn data off when connected to wifi? You won't get text messeages...
(And btw, Tasker can do this as well as about 1,000 other things.)
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Lol, like other's have said, txt has nothing to do with data. If that were the case, how did old school flip phones with no data manage to pull off texting?
GideonX said:
My account only works over cell data, which is why you are seeing that 4G icon. Pretty annoying "feature".
Lol, like other's have said, txt has nothing to do with data. If that were the case, how did old school flip phones with no data manage to pull off texting?
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My account is a useful app, but only when I choose to use it. [/ciq. paranoia]
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My account only works over cell data, which is why you are seeing that 4G icon. Pretty annoying "feature".
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Wouldn't data usage be necessary for your simcard to communicate with the network and give you exact account info?
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I don't have the My Account app on my phone, at all, and no CIQ, but this still happens.
It happened earlier today when I was in the Android Market. It's rather annoying.
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I don't have the My Account app on my phone, at all, and no CIQ, but this still happens.
It happened earlier today when I was in the Android Market. It's rather annoying.
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Its pry your sim communicating with the market in order to log you into your acct... Same thing when you use the "my account" app.
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Correct. Data off you can still send/ receive txt msg.
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That's true but, you cannot sent mms. I call t-mo and they
told me in order to be able to send & receive mms, you have to
Have on the signal. If the data is off, no mms.
I usually just use advanced task killer when this happens, seems to work
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Ok so I flashed the deodexed (Whitehawkx version) stock rooted T-Mobile update with wificalling. I was super excited for it to be released blah, blah, blah then I went to send an mms. No go. Just hung. So I figured it must be because I'm on a deodexed rooted rom. I asked friend (thanks doc) who had just updated using the T-Mobile method to tey sending an mms while on wificalling. No dice. I'm wondering how many of us have this problem. It seems to be a T-Mobile issue, but I'm no dev. Just a big fan.
Thanks
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It seems to work for me but it takes forever to send the images/media - unless the phone finally decided to use edge to sent the message while still connected to wifi calling. Though, I assumed once it's connected to wifi calling, it only uses wifi. Can anyone confirm this?
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It seems to work for me but it takes forever to send the images/media - unless the phone finally decided to use edge to sent the message while still connected to wifi calling. Though, I assumed once it's connected to wifi calling, it only uses wifi. Can anyone confirm this?
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I can't answer that for sure. Hmm maybe I don't give it enough time, for me and doc it doesn't send until right after we disconnect from wifi. Thanks for the feedback.
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This is a problem with the Wifi calling feature. It disables MMS and does this on multiple phones. I had this same problem on my Mytouch 4g as well.
There is a response from a Tmobile employee on the Tmobile support boards for wifi calling and the G2 which says http://support.t-mobile.com/message/4487.
This is normal. WiFi Calling registers through your wifi and disables the mobile networks to do so. Some T-Mobile apps have the ability to temporarily force a GPRS connection to verify you. The only away to avoid this is to disable or turn off WiFi Calling.
This is also why calls drop when leaving your wifi network's signal range. It needs to disconnect and re-register on the T-Mobile network.
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i have a gs2 in one hand and a mt4g in the other. wifi calling on on both. the gs2 sends instantly without ever connecting to data, the mt4g connects to data and takes ~10 seconds to send. maybe depends on things like your router or something.
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i have a gs2 in one hand and a mt4g in the other. wifi calling on on both. the gs2 sends instantly without ever connecting to data, the mt4g connects to data and takes ~10 seconds to send. maybe depends on things like your router or something.
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Mms? Crazy. I have a mytouch4g also and did the same thing and the mytouch4g sent and gs2 not at all. Haha. Oh well thanks.
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Mms? Crazy. I have a mytouch4g also and did the same thing and the mytouch4g sent and gs2 not at all. Haha. Oh well thanks.
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the reasom i suggest it being router is that at work on company wifi, cant send or receive mms w/wifi calling on. at home it sends no problem, and here on the hospital wifi it sends fine also, idk
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the reasom i suggest it being router is that at work on company wifi, cant send or receive mms w/wifi calling on. at home it sends no problem, and here on the hospital wifi it sends fine also, idk
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I'll check at some diffferent places to see what's up. I appreciate the info.
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I'll check at some diffferent places to see what's up. I appreciate the info.
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Did you update your baseband to the most recent one. That could be a problem.
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Killbynature said:
Did you update your baseband to the most recent one. That could be a problem.
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No, but the other person who had the problem did update everything including the baseband and he had the issue.
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Mine will not mms on wifi either. It doesn't even send once you get back on cell. It just says sending. My vibrant was the same way!! Fck! Annoying!
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Mine will not mms on wifi either. It doesn't even send once you get back on cell. It just says sending. My vibrant was the same way!! Fck! Annoying!
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Yeah I'm not too thrilled either since it worked on sensation and mytouch4g and mytouch4g slide. What gives?
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the reasom i suggest it being router is that at work on company wifi, cant send or receive mms w/wifi calling on. at home it sends no problem, and here on the hospital wifi it sends fine also, idk
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You need to remember that the firewall settings are different from place to place. As an example I use a Cisco router at home and WiFi calling will connect but I could not hear the person on the other end initially. I had to look at what the router was doing, figure out what the firewall was blocking and unblock it.
It's likely the firewall at your work is letting some, but not all of the necessary traffic through. You could ask the IT guys if they can look and see what their firewall is blocking from your phone and ask them if they'll unblock it... They may or may not want to help and they may use the information to completely block your phone from being able to connect to the tmobile servers on the other side.
Is there an app that I can download somewhere or is this something that someone could throw together for use with the Nexus?
I work right outside of Tmobile service area. I usually get about a bar or 2, on a good day. I rarely ever use the phone, didnt even realize these things could make calls anymore!
Anywho, I had an Amaze which had wifi calling and the call quality would be crystal clear over wifi calling and did wonders for saving battery.
Any help would be much appreciated!
I was disappointed to find out also that it was unavailable on the GNex and from what I read on it it's near impossible to port it over.
An alternative may be a combo of Google Voice & Groove IP, I use that combo on my Moto Xoom Tablet and it work fine.
OK so maybe I don't understand how groove IP works....but when I make a call over wifi the phone is still looking for a mobile signal. While I was in the call the phone showed one bar or service. So at that point isn't the lack of cellular signal still going to eat away at my battery?
I suppose grove is made more for a situation where you have no service at all? I tried putting the phone in airplane mode and make a call that way which does work.....but then your screwed with the texts......ugh....FML! Ha.
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OK so maybe I don't understand how groove IP works....but when I make a call over wifi the phone is still looking for a mobile signal. While I was in the call the phone showed one bar or service. So at that point isn't the lack of cellular signal still going to eat away at my battery?
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Heres a screenshot showing one bar even when I am on wifi within a call over groove. If i remember correctly when wifi calling was being used on the Amaze, the mobile signal would be turned off completely.
Hopefully with the One S out now we'll be able to get wifi calling? Anyone heard any progress on that?
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Hopefully with the One S out now we'll be able to get wifi calling? Anyone heard any progress on that?
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Hopefully we've got something coming....if so my battery will last for ages!
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Download "Viber". This is an OTA/WIFI calling app. Also dl "phone + WIFI on/off" widget. Both available in the market.
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Viber requires both parties to have the app installed if I'm not mistaken. I think that is unrealistic.
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wifi was never crystal clear on the t989
that is why we left tmobile it would cut out swell groove should work fine why dont you disable data then turn wifi on and link up tjat way it will work like a charm i promise
I'm not sure I follow you too well. I'm still a noob. Would you care to elaborate on that.
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Try the Vonage app. You can make calls over Wifi and data the other person does not need to have the Vonage app to receive calls. It's only good for making outbound calls on Wifi or data. (Doesn't count against mins either) If you receive a call it goes through regular cell service and bucket of mins. You can make calls to any where in the US for free. Right now you can use up to 3,000 mins a month for free to make calls. (Promo with no end date set)
But in order to receive calls the radio would have to be left on or else they will go directly to voicemail right. Which means I would have to leave the radio on.....so once again I would have low reception leading to eating up better. But anyways I think you maybe mistaken....vonage app says the other person must have the app. FML! Ha.
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Sometimes at home can't get damn 3g signal. So I got wifi how do I send messages using wifi???? ****'s very annoying.
Text is a voice service it doesn't use data at all. If you can't text making/receiving phone calls must be hard at your home as well. Over wifi Google voice or a similar app from the play store would be your best bet
Yes, you can. The best way to do it would be Google Voice, but there are other apps out there capable of it. The way the carriers handle it (in this case Sprint) is over the network... GSM or CDMA. 3g is always an extension of the mobile voice network... this is why you typically cannot make calls and browse the web while on 3g (although Sprint has found a way to defeat this with the Viper and the Evo LTE, though a second chipset). 4g runs on a different band than 3g does, which means it doesn't affect your calling / text capabilities.
I know that is more info than you asked for. The long and short of it is that you need an app designed to run on Wifi, rather than mobile data, but it is possible.
+1 for google voice. I even use it to text from my Nook which doesn't even have 3g.
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I put mine in airplane mode when I'm home and used voice for everything
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G voice.. or complain to sprint and get a airave and hook it up to your wireless router and have signal in your house .. or get roam control (assuming your rooted) and roam when your home and use your wifi for your data needs and sure youll be fine since wont need to worry about sprint and data roaming
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G voice.. or complain to sprint and get a airave and hook it up to your wireless router and have signal in your house .. or get roam control (assuming your rooted) and roam when your home and use your wifi for your data needs and sure youll be fine since wont need to worry about sprint and data roaming
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I have to use roam control and wifi at my house. I spend most my time in my game room in the basement and.my sprint service sucks down there. But I get perfect signal roaming.
You guys reading?
If you can make a call at home you can text brother
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You guys reading?
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Uh, slvrap1 already stated this in so many words above. We're discussing workarounds now. And yes, Google Voice is the easiest way to go if you're using an Android phone.
A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
You never make a phone call or transmit SMS messages over EVDO, it is a data only connection protocol..
This is why SMS are limited to a certain number of characters, because they are actually a hack of the control channel in 1xRTT communications...
Simplified version:
REAL SMS is a hack of the control channel between cell phone and tower. It has nothing to do with a data connection so it can not be transmitted via EVDO, WIFI or any other data connection...
Note: When I state REAL SMS that is because services like google voice and others are all VOIP connections that use data connections to transmit messages and phone conversations... There is character limit in VOIP texting but they impose it because you can send it to a REAL SMS and that has character limitations built in..
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A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
You never make a phone call or transmit SMS messages over EVDO, it is a data only connection protocol..
This is why SMS are limited to a certain number of characters, because they are actually a hack of the control channel in 1xRTT communications...
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Correct. Texting has nothing to do with 3g. You can find an app that can use 3g or wifi to text o stead of the network. This is what my friend uses on AT&T so they don't have to pay for text messages. They use the network.
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Correct. Texting has nothing to do with 3g. You can find an app that can use 3g or wifi to text o stead of the network. This is what my friend uses on AT&T so they don't have to pay for text messages. They use the network.
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That actually just sends the message via the data connection to a server, which then relays that into the carrier's system and is then transmitted to the recievers phone via the 1xRTT control channel... They aren't actually texting a phone, they are sending an instant message to a server that then knows how to convert and relay that into a text message.
Note: I use 1xRTT because we are on a CDMA2000 system... for AT&T, T-Mobile and other GSM it works on their *2g* voice connection... I forgot what it is called at this moment...
Use roam control at home, Verizon probably covers you better. 1x roaming is free other than your minutes
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Sometimes at home can't get damn 3g signal. So I got wifi how do I send messages using wifi???? ****'s very annoying.
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Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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numus said:
A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
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I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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tt281gt said:
I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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Do you happen to be connected to wifi?
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Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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More likely when you moved you connected to a less loaded tower, being connected to wifi was just a coincidence.
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I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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Well if you are connected to WiMAX or Wifi.. yes you can make a phone call and surf the web at the same time.. If you are on EVDO, the only way that is possible is if you have 2 cell phones... One to surf the web and one to make calls
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Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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Your experience is only coincidental... It is physically impossible because the SMS system is built on the 1xRTT control channel... It has nothing to do with the data connection in any way shape or form... It is a hack on the tower identification and protocol transmission channel.
It is like if you take out a frozen piece of meat, turn on the microwave and leave the piece of meat outside the microwave (never put it in the microwave) and claim the microwave is defrosting the meat...
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Are you reading? He obviously cant text at home.. he did say 3g but probably doesnt know what HES talking about.. i think its safe to say hes getting NO signal since he is unable to send text messages.. thus want other options to send text messages which people are giving.. he doesnt care how the network works and how it uses 1xrtt and not his 3g radio.. he just wants optiong to improve him sending messages at home which no matter how we put it, theres only a few options we've already determine which is 1: google voice or other voip messaging app. 2: using roam control to make sure he has signal to send it regularly while roaming. 3: can get airrave and hook up to his wifi at home to bost his signal inside of the house. 4: leave his house and go walk around til he can send one lol 5: someone said theres apps which allow you to send it over data which then gets converted in the tower and sent as normal.. good luck OP! Probably already found a way just wanted to try and get the thread back on topic for ya lol
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Are you reading? He obviously cant text at home.. he did say 3g but probably doesnt know what HES talking about.. i think its safe to say hes getting NO signal since he is unable to send text messages.. thus want other options to send text messages which people are giving.. he doesnt care how the network works and how it uses 1xrtt and not his 3g radio.. he just wants optiong to improve him sending messages at home which no matter how we put it, theres only a few options we've already determine which is 1: google voice or other voip messaging app. 2: using roam control to make sure he has signal to send it regularly while roaming. 3: can get airrave and hook up to his wifi at home to bost his signal inside of the house. 4: leave his house and go walk around til he can send one lol 5: someone said theres apps which allow you to send it over data which then gets converted in the tower and sent as normal.. good luck OP! Probably already found a way just wanted to try and get the thread back on topic for ya lol
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Google voice will only allow you to text over your google voice phone number... If you use google voice to manage your SMS and text using your phone number, it will still send it via SMS (1xRTT control channel) and will fail There is no alternative when you want to use your actual phone number except for utilizing the sprint web tool.. log into your account and send a text message from the web tool.\
Note: I am one of those people that will correct wrong information if i see it, even if it doesn't 100% pertain to the original post. IMHO it is the only way to ensure people don't start repeating the wrong information and exponentially make it harder to teach people the correct answer.
Does any sort of app exist? I'm rooted and for battery saving purposes, would it not be a good idea to switch to 2g automatically when the screen is off for more than a minute? Then when the phone is woken up switch back to 3g?
I'm not talking about turning data off completely as this would stop whatsapp messages coming through.
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Does any sort of app exist? I'm rooted and for battery saving purposes, would it not be a good idea to switch to 2g automatically when the screen is off for more than a minute? Then when the phone is woken up switch back to 3g?
I'm not talking about turning data off completely as this would stop whatsapp messages coming through.
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Dont know if it helps but I just made this post a few hours ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765911
Not sure if that's what you need though.
It uses mobile data though... For 2g and 3g I'll try to create a new app for that
But for now yeah that's what I have
Would Tasker not be able to do that?
(I've only used it a few times recently but sounds within its capabilities)
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Would Tasker not be able to do that?
(I've only used it a few times recently but sounds within its capabilities)
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It is built using tasker.
I tried to use Tasker for this but not sure how to configure it. Anyone successfully configure please share the steps..
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I tried to use Tasker for this but not sure how to configure it. Anyone successfully configure please share the steps..
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if you turn off the 3g while the screen is off, you wont receive any emails is this correct?
2g... Data is data. Psst, you can watch Youtube without 3g!
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Hi
kevz65 said:
Does any sort of app exist? I'm rooted and for battery saving purposes, would it not be a good idea to switch to 2g automatically when the screen is off for more than a minute? Then when the phone is woken up switch back to 3g?
I'm not talking about turning data off completely as this would stop whatsapp messages coming through.
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It's not that simple and probably not worthwhile. 2G and 3G on standby are pretty close in terms of power usage, the only time you usually find an advantage with 2G is where the 3G signal is weaker, so less power is used keeping in touch with the 2G tower. If you fix the phone to 2G, you also save some power if moving around as the phone is only talking/listening to 2G cells, and less likely to be swapping about. When you have "auto" selected and you are moving around the phone has to monitor both 2G and 3G cells to be ready to make a handover decision, so that is extra power.
If you have the phone constantly dropping 2G to go to 3G when you turn on the screen, then back again, that all takes extra power to negotiate with the cells. Also if you get a phone call and the phone switches to 3G, this will drop all connections when the setting is changed, as you can only have a smooth handover when the phone is in "auto" mode and has already established a handover strategy.
Then you need to factor in data usage. When any applications sync while your phone is in standby (screen off) if on 2G that sync is going to take longer, and the longer it takes the longer your phone has to stay awake to wait for it to happen, and the radio is on longer transmitting, so more power is used than there might have been on 3G.
The net effect of such a setting is likely to use more power overall.
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I just updated my phone to 5.0.1 and now there the data won't turn off on WiFi. It still does turn off when toggled, but then MMS can't be received. How should I fix this?
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It's always done that the 4g is still connected to do things like SMS.
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It's always done that the 4g is still connected to do things like SMS.
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but it shouldn't always be lit up like that. it should grey out after awhile.
Unfortunately you have to turn off mobile data. Just called Verizon about this.
It use to be greyed out, but now it's white as if it's on. Could be an oversight when they created the update. When I'm connected to wifi, it is rarely active.
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I believe it stays active for the advanced calling option. Even if you don't enroll in the option it keeps the 4G active by default to "watch" for calls. Just a way for the vzw devs to be lazy by leaving it "active" all the time instead of being triggered by opting in to the advanced option
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