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HTC AMAZE got their Wifi Calling Update OTA Today....

what about us......

We always get the short end of the stick
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We've got the better phone anyways. lol.

babymatteo said:
We've got the better phone anyways. lol.
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Having owned both, we really do have the better phone.

I'm going to ask this, but I'll probably be killed with insults, anyway whats the big deal with wifi calling? I have unlimited phone calls, so how come everyone is so jazzed about wifi calling?
Just Curious, I have used wifi calling before on my old Vibrant and when I was talking on my phone in the house it was great, then walk out to my car and drive somewhere it would drop the call because the phone switched from wifi to network. Thats just not going to work for me.

tonebone said:
I'm going to ask this, but I'll probably be killed with insults, anyway whats the big deal with wifi calling? I have unlimited phone calls, so how come everyone is so jazzed about wifi calling?
Just Curious, I have used wifi calling before on my old Vibrant and when I was talking on my phone in the house it was great, then walk out to my car and drive somewhere it would drop the call because the phone switched from wifi to network. Thats just not going to work for me.
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Wifi calling is for people who have bad reception in their home, office etc. I personally do not care for this feature because I have great reception just about everywhere I go.
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Not for nothing but the amaze came out first.. lets chill..

tonebone said:
I'm going to ask this, but I'll probably be killed with insults, anyway whats the big deal with wifi calling? I have unlimited phone calls, so how come everyone is so jazzed about wifi calling?
Just Curious, I have used wifi calling before on my old Vibrant and when I was talking on my phone in the house it was great, then walk out to my car and drive somewhere it would drop the call because the phone switched from wifi to network. Thats just not going to work for me.
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and i believe wifi calling still uses your minutes. just to clear things up, there are other apps like google voice that doesn't uses minutes over wifi.

tonebone said:
I'm going to ask this, but I'll probably be killed with insults, anyway whats the big deal with wifi calling? I have unlimited phone calls, so how come everyone is so jazzed about wifi calling?
Just Curious, I have used wifi calling before on my old Vibrant and when I was talking on my phone in the house it was great, then walk out to my car and drive somewhere it would drop the call because the phone switched from wifi to network. Thats just not going to work for me.
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Wow. Thats what Wifi calling is for...using your wifi's signal to make phone calls. Very useful for others that have weak phone signal at home.

Not to mention good on battery. It turns off the radio chip when its in use as well.

The amaze needs all the help it can get.
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jordanishere said:
The amaze needs all the help it can get.
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I Agree
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Teo032 said:
and i believe wifi calling still uses your minutes. just to clear things up, there are other apps like google voice that doesn't uses minutes over wifi.
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It doesn't if you have Tmobile add the "free" wifi calling feature onto your account.
I'm just sayin!

i have ****ty service in tucson regardless of where i am lol, wifi calling is an INTEGRAL feature.....it is making this phone very hard to use!

PJcastaldo said:
Not for nothing but the amaze came out first.. lets chill..
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they have the same release day?

[BOUNTY(?)] WiFi calling

Not really sure how to properly start a bounty thread, and direction is appreciated. Also don't know if this is even possible as I know porting wifi calling has proven to be nearly impossible on other devices, e.g. Nexus S. However, doesn't hurt to ask and I know it was done on Nexus One. Am using Galaxy Nexus on TMo, if that makes any difference.
Really, desperately need wifi calling for reception purposes in my apartment. Left TMo's Galaxy S2 for the Galaxy Nexus, love everything about it except lack of reception in home.
I know I can utilize Google Voice, but I need to be able to use my TMo number for both incoming and outgoing calls as well as texts, and not interested in porting my mobile number to Google.
I'm willing to fork over $100 for working wifi calling, if anyone is up to the challenge... if even possible...
Also, if anyone has alternate suggestion (not Google Voice, something that utilizes TMo mobile number, would be GREATLY appreciated!!

If this is possible that would be awesome. But I believe UMA is strictly a tmo thing
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I use Groove IP app exclusively for calls, both over wifi and 3G/HSPA+. I am on the T-mobile $30/unlimited data/100min plan, so it is a must for me. It works great! and only a few bucks on the market. You will need a Google Voice account, and to set it to ring Google Talk, and maybe a little other setup, but it is pretty simple.

Tubes6al4v said:
I use Groove IP app exclusively for calls, both over wifi and 3G/HSPA+. I am on the T-mobile $30/unlimited data/100min plan, so it is a must for me. It works great! and only a few bucks on the market. You will need a Google Voice account, and to set it to ring Google Talk, and maybe a little other setup, but it is pretty simple.
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Thanks for suggestion but I really need my TMo mobile number to work, and I'm not looking to port it to GV...

lp1527 said:
Thanks for suggestion but I really need my TMo mobile number to work, and I'm not looking to port it to GV...
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I will match whatever contribution you make. I want to see the WiFi calling in the ways of the HTC Glacier (MT4G)...

Verizon has a network extender that plugs into your home internet connection. It gives you a cell signal in your house and routes it over the internet back to Verizon. There is no monthly fee just a charge of the device. $250 i think. Maybe TMo has a similar device.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell

pharpe said:
Verizon has a network extender that plugs into your home internet connection. It gives you a cell signal in your house and routes it over the internet back to Verizon. There is no monthly fee just a charge of the device. $250 i think. Maybe TMo has a similar device.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell
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GSM, on T-Mobile
But thanks for the suggestion...

pharpe said:
Verizon has a network extender that plugs into your home internet connection. It gives you a cell signal in your house and routes it over the internet back to Verizon. There is no monthly fee just a charge of the device. $250 i think. Maybe TMo has a similar device.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell
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TMo does have a signal booster device, but it cannot be implemented in shared-wall structures (i.e. apartment buildings). Also, have many places, such as family homes, with lousy in-door coverage where wi-fi calling makes all the difference in the world.

i called tmo last month i fact complaining of a low signal in my town home. they sent me a signal booster for free.. from 1 bar downstairs to now 5 bars

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i called tmo last month i fact complaining of a low signal in my town home. they sent me a signal booster for free.. from 1 bar downstairs to now 5 bars
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That's awesome! Unfortunately they're not allowed in apartment buildings so won't help me.
I desperately need wi-fi calling!!!

lp1527 said:
That's awesome! Unfortunately they're not allowed in apartment buildings so won't help me.
I desperately need wi-fi calling!!!
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Yeah, the cops might hall you off!

lp1527 said:
That's awesome! Unfortunately they're not allowed in apartment buildings so won't help me.
I desperately need wi-fi calling!!!
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Who's going to stop you..?
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jyames said:
Yeah, the cops might hall you off!
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Who's going to stop you..?
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Well I'm not scared of the signal booster police!
Unfortunately they check your address to verify. NO, I don't know if/how they can verify ALL shared wall structures, but for someone like me with "Apt. 5J" attached to my address it's not difficult. The issue is you need to register your address in case of emergency, as 911 cannot definitely and accurately determine your address if making a call using signal booster. So the issue is that if a neighbor picks up your signal without knowing and makes an emergency call, 911 may not be able to identify address. I know it's a long shot but it's not MY rule. And afaik, you cannot lock the signal to exclude others as you can with wifi.

jyames said:
Yeah, the cops might hall you off!
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Oh, and hall = haul when referring to carrying someone away. Just saying

I think the booster is tied to your cell account... so you might have a fun surprise.
The wifi calling was awesome but ultimately its property of T-Mobile and doesn't work on ICS. T-Mobile must update it before even attempting to porting it over.
CM team has used it a ton. Maybe they'll implement it in their CM9 rom. But I suspect they'll be busy just ironing out the bugs for a while.
Plus T-Mobile is doing away with wifi calling as we know it. I BELIEVE they're implementing a new system and probably going to charge for it.
Hopefully T-Mobile gets this working on some ICS (Nexus?) when it releases.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer

player911 said:
I think the booster is tied to your cell account... so you might have a fun surprise.
The wifi calling was awesome but ultimately its property of T-Mobile and doesn't work on ICS. T-Mobile must update it before even attempting to porting it over.
CM team has used it a ton. Maybe they'll implement it in their CM9 rom. But I suspect they'll be busy just ironing out the bugs for a while.
Plus T-Mobile is doing away with wifi calling as we know it. I BELIEVE they're implementing a new system and probably going to charge for it.
Hopefully T-Mobile gets this working on some ICS (Nexus?) when it releases.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer
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You're correct that wifi calling is very proprietary to T-Mobile and from what I understand (I'm not a developer whatsoever), is extremely difficult to impossible to port. I've been watching them try it on Nexus S since its release a year ago.
Unfortunately T-Mobile won't make it available to a non-branded TMo phone so unless Galaxy Nexus is released directly by TMo (which I doubt will happen), it won't happen even when they update it for their own ICS devices.
ALso, TMo did in fact change the implementation of their wifi calling- it's already been released on new devices such as TMo Galaxy S2 and HTC Amaze. However they are not and will not be charging for it (in fact they've again enabled free calls that don't use plan minutes when calling on wifi), it has just changed the way it's handled (better performance). Little to no noticeable change to end users.
Would be great if CM team get it working on Galaxy Nexus!
Good thoughts, thanks!

lp1527 said:
You're correct that wifi calling is very proprietary to T-Mobile and from what I understand (I'm not a developer whatsoever), is extremely difficult to impossible to port. I've been watching them try it on Nexus S since its release a year ago.
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The problem on the Nexus S has nothing to do with the Wifi Calling app (which is actually made by Kineto), the problem is the radio interface layer (from Samsung) which is a binary blob. It does not support what the Wifi calling software requires to work (authentication calls mainly). Kineto blames Google for not "requesting" this feature from Samsung.
Getting the Kineto app up and working was really not that difficult. The only thing that needed to be changed was an audio library because the constructor was changed from Froyo to Gingerbread. That had nothing to do with the Kineto/Wifi calling software other than it used that constructor.
lp1527 said:
Unfortunately T-Mobile won't make it available to a non-branded TMo phone so unless Galaxy Nexus is released directly by TMo (which I doubt will happen), it won't happen even when they update it for their own ICS devices.
ALso, TMo did in fact change the implementation of their wifi calling- it's already been released on new devices such as TMo Galaxy S2 and HTC Amaze. However they are not and will not be charging for it (in fact they've again enabled free calls that don't use plan minutes when calling on wifi), it has just changed the way it's handled (better performance). Little to no noticeable change to end users.
Would be great if CM team get it working on Galaxy Nexus!
Good thoughts, thanks!
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I believe there is also a hardware component to it now (SIM based).
If anyone wants to try this I can give you the necessary info to get started.

krohnjw said:
The problem on the Nexus S has nothing to do with the Wifi Calling app (which is actually made by Kineto), the problem is the radio interface layer (from Samsung) which is a binary blob. It does not support what the Wifi calling software requires to work (authentication calls mainly). Kineto blames Google for not "requesting" this feature from Samsung.
Getting the Kineto app up and working was really not that difficult. The only thing that needed to be changed was an audio library because the constructor was changed from Froyo to Gingerbread. That had nothing to do with the Kineto/Wifi calling software other than it used that constructor.
I believe there is also a hardware component to it now (SIM based).
If anyone wants to try this I can give you the necessary info to get started.
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Well you clearly know much more than I do about it! Like I said, I'm absolutely no dev and have only 'average' knowledge of these things. Thanks for the info! Any idea if the GN has what would be necessary to make it happen?

I use my own asterisk box, but I'm sure a pbxes account would work for you. Just use the built-in sip client on the galaxy nexus.
https://www1.pbxes.com/index_e.php

nomisunrider said:
I use my own asterisk box, but I'm sure a pbxes account would work for you. Just use the built-in sip client on the galaxy nexus.
https://www1.pbxes.com/index_e.php
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Checked out the link but I still have NO clue what this is ... can you elaborate please? Thanks!

Tmobile wifi calling?

Can Tmobile wifi calling be enabled on the GSM Gnex? If it is not natively available, I see that Tmo' just released the official ICS ROM for the Sensation and I am hoping the libs are the same and can be ported!

Anyone?

I wanted to bump this to see if anyone has new info. It has been a while, so my fingers are crossed!

no it doesn't work on the nexus I tried to port it but nothing unfortunately I only got it to work on my sensation with cm9 not the nexus tho
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You'll never see T-Mobile WiFi calling on the GNex. Sorry.

martonikaj said:
You'll never see T-Mobile WiFi calling on the GNex. Sorry.
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If Tmobile ever sells the device we absolutely will see that functionality, however I am hoping someone else can figure out a way to get it working in the mean time.

webmaster said:
If Tmobile ever sells the device we absolutely will see that functionality, however I am hoping someone else can figure out a way to get it working in the mean time.
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T-Mobile won't ever sell the device. That's the main reason why. Add in the fact that it's extremely hard to port the functionality to non-T-Mobile handsets and I wouldn't ever expect WiFi calling on the GNex.

[T-Mobile version] WiFi Calling feature

I don't own a GS3 but I am just curious if the WiFi Calling feature is a standalone app or if it is built into settings like on the One S. I saw one of the universal roms had the feature and just curious on the method to get it ported to a universal based rom.

Crkr said:
I don't own a GS3 but I am just curious if the WiFi Calling feature is a standalone app or if it is built into settings like on the One S. I saw one of the universal roms had the feature and just curious on the method to get it ported to a universal based rom.
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it is built into the phone.

From my understanding, it is a T-mobile exclusive. It has been ported to other devices in the past. I love my wifi Calling..

MMakoto said:
it is built into the phone.
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K thanks, just didn't know if they were treating all new phones/updates this way or not.

Crkr said:
K thanks, just didn't know if they were treating all new phones/updates this way or not.
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Far as I know, T-Mo, Cincinnati Bell and Rogers Canada are the only N. American carriers that have wifi-calling. It's also now free if you sign up for the free version -- doesn't even come out of your minutes. But, you have to ask for it.

scrannel said:
Far as I know, T-Mo, Cincinnati Bell and Rogers Canada are the only N. American carriers that have wifi-calling. It's also now free if you sign up for the free version -- doesn't even come out of your minutes. But, you have to ask for it.
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True. But you cant be on the monthly plans.

scrannel said:
Far as I know, T-Mo, Cincinnati Bell and Rogers Canada are the only N. American carriers that have wifi-calling. It's also now free if you sign up for the free version -- doesn't even come out of your minutes. But, you have to ask for it.
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Cincinnati Bell costs $10 extra for the wifi calling. http://www.cincinnatibell.com/wireless/features/feature/fusion-wifi/

Tmobile on verizon note 3

I have a verizon note 3. I am on tmobile now. Using a jelly bean rom, I have everything working except for wi fi calling? Anyone know how to get it? or how to load a tmobile rom on the verizon note 3?
I tried loading a tmobile rom but the wifi would not connect?
Thanks,
Kevin

trpfn03 said:
I have a verizon note 3. I am on tmobile now. Using a jelly bean rom, I have everything working except for wi fi calling? Anyone know how to get it? or how to load a tmobile rom on the verizon note 3?
I tried loading a tmobile rom but the wifi would not connect?
Thanks,
Kevin
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Unless I'm way off here, Verizon uses cdma where tmibile us gsm. How is your Verizon note even working on T-Mobile to begin with?
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trpfn03 said:
I have a verizon note 3. I am on tmobile now. Using a jelly bean rom, I have everything working except for wi fi calling? Anyone know how to get it? or how to load a tmobile rom on the verizon note 3?
I tried loading a tmobile rom but the wifi would not connect?
Thanks,
Kevin
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I'm using my phone on Tmobile right now. I just need mk2 radios to get lte to work same time as receiving calls. And correct answer.
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suckmikehawk88 said:
I'm using my phone on Tmobile right now. I just need mk2 radios to get lte to work same time as receiving calls. And correct answer.
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verizon note 3? which rom are you running?

Correct apns*
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Correct apns*
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where you able to get wifi calling? do you have a link to the rom you used?
thanks

Verizon has world phones, that have some GSM capabilities, they also have SIM cards, because LTE is GSM tech and SIM is part of LTE specs, so yeah it should work at least on some frequencies. The only ROM that has WiFi calling, as far as I know is T-mo. There was some guy claiming he loaded pretty much all different ROM's he could get into his Note and it worked, but don't remember details, do search maybe in International Note 3 forum and see if T-mo is mentioned. Not sure if you care, but right now loading ROM's could trigger Knox flag, so maybe research this before hand and I have a feeling soon we may have some new breakthrough, when loading any ROMS is no problem, but not sure if Knox flag can ever be reversed, once tripped, there is no way for now.
BTW I'm not sure if you're aware, once you have WiFi calling, you can call home from around the World on WiFi for free. Don't let other people call you, but you can make free international calls home as long as you're on WiFI. It does not work for local calls. That is outside the new international calling plan T-mo has.

My Verizon Note 3 worked somewhat on T-Mobile
I had my Verizon Note 3 functional on T-Mobile for about a week but ended up buying a used T-Mobile Note 3 after having random service issues. With the correct APN settings on the V Note 3, 4G worked and I was able to browse just fine but the phone was not reliable. Quite often after making a call, it would switch away from 4G (sometimes to Edge) and would take minutes to re-establish a reliable data connection on 4G. During this time, whether it was possible to make another call was a hit or miss. Even when it said 3g, or Edge, calling was sometimes not possible. Usually I would wait a while before trying again. Data was in and out at times. I was on the latest official Android release: 4.4.4. And other users with T-Mobile phones were not having similar issues in the same location so I know it was not location specific.
I thought about downgrading to another rom and rooting, then enabling LTE band 4, but I wasn't sure that would fix the service-related issues. Now with the T-Mobile version, I have zero service problems. We had a similar experience on T-mobile with a Verizon Galaxy S5 and after getting the T-Mobile version, the problems were fixed.
So, IMO, the V Note 3 does work on GSM networks like T-Mobile. How reliable it works compared to the other Carrier specific models is debatable.