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[Q] 2.3 ota + root

ok my friend made me root his evo so he can tether while he went on vacation like 2 months ago. now he doesn't care if he is rooted or not and since the update is coming i figured i should ask this.
ok so ive googled, googled, and googled some more and i can't find a straitup f***ing answer to this. since my friend is rooted but still on the stock rom, if he accepts the 2.3 ots will he:
1. loose root and be stock on stock 2.3 rom
2. turn his pretty little evo into a fancy paper weight
just give me a 1 or 2 as a comment so i know whether or not to have him drive over and make me unroot it for him since he lives kinda far away and doesn't come often...

1. Lose root and be on 2.3
posting & replying from my EVO 4G

^This guy.
But I am a bit confused myself. What exactly is edited in the android system so that we have root access?

If he's removed any system apps, he won't be able to accept the OTA. I've never personally had this problem because I've never tried, but I have heard of others experiencing issues.
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plainjane said:
If he's removed any system apps, he won't be able to accept the OTA. I've never personally had this problem because I've never tried, but I have heard of others experiencing issues.
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he didn't delete any of the apps so...

Yeah but does he have a custom recovery? If he has cwm or amon ra I don't think the ota will flash.
if you cant live large, look big in the coffin!!!

Completely stock , accept the ota and loose root will be the only issue. Only if everything is untouched, no frozen apps or anything. Just tell him to sync his contacts and what not prior to.

UnrEVOked has some info on un-rooting and going back to RUU. I believe it's on their forever root page for EVO. Basically (don't quote me) they recommend getting a older stock Rom and flashing that before update.
Also you could go back to the nandroid you did of his stock setup... (you did a nandroid right?!) And then update which will cause you to lose root.
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monkeychef said:
^This guy.
But I am a bit confused myself. What exactly is edited in the android system so that we have root access?
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Read THIS. I hope that answers your question....
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His phone is bone stock except for root and amon recovery. No frozen apps no custom rom. So he should be fine?
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He'll be fine. He's just going to lose root and custom recovery.
A system upgrade is like a Windows upgrade. Totally reformats and installs the OS

Ok thanks
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Does the same apply if I have a custom kernel installed?

There have been cases where people have bricked their phones doing an OTA. Since a lot of things change and vary between ROMs, it is best to just unroot, and then accept the OTA.

Or, simply wait a day or two, someone will have a rooted version of the new OTA posted over in the development threads. Problems solved and avoided

the update will probably fail

i have a question. im on cm7 and i want to try the new gingerbread update, i have unrevoked forever. if i go back to a stock rom and remove my recovery can i get the ota?

You need to go back to stock recovery and you can get the OTA, as far as losing root, I had unrevoked forever and I was able to just flash a new recovery after it was done and I was fine. It didnt reformat anything nor will they have an update that reformats your data. I still had superuser installed. I tested this on 3.3 OTA back in the day, but there is no telling what HTC will do with each update. Now I use custom roms and just wait for my favorite devs the incorporate it into the rom. Best bet is to wait till the rooted update is on the forums and install that.

dr_acula_sxe said:
i have a question. im on cm7 and i want to try the new gingerbread update, i have unrevoked forever. if i go back to a stock rom and remove my recovery can i get the ota?
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So, what you're saying is that, if you get your phone back to how it was when you bought it and first took it out of the box, factory setup, can you get the official factory release for updating your factory set phone to the new factory released update??
Did you SERIOUSLY just ask that????

HipKat said:
So, what you're saying is that, if you get your phone back to how it was when you bought it and first took it out of the box, factory setup, can you get the official factory release for updating your factory set phone to the new factory released update??
Did you SERIOUSLY just ask that????
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im sure he means revert to an earlier nand backup and restore

4.53.651.1 install after revolutionary

Anyone else trying to update stock to 4.53.651.1 but it fails to install? If you take the ota after revolutionarys unlock I can not install the update. I believe this is due to the hboot version. Which seems to be how they got around the locking in he first place.
Also where is the ota on the phone? I want to pull it off the phone and try a re ruu and install it again.
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tnerb123 said:
Anyone else trying to update stock to 4.53.651.1 but it fails to install? If you take the ota after revolutionarys unlock I can not install the update. I believe this is due to the hboot version. Which seems to be how they got around the locking in he first place.
Also where is the ota on the phone? I want to pull it off the phone and try a re ruu and install it again.
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Have you checked Development section for the latest stock rom. Also why would you try to do an OTA after rooting. It may take away your root. Just wait it out or try a custom rom that probably has more than the stock 4.53 rom.
You rooted to get away from stock why go back when you now have options better than stock.
Rooted Stock Roms link here

Getting root back isn't a problem. I want a nandroid backup with the.latest. the original reason for me to root wasn't to run a custom Rom. It was to remove the extra bloatware.
But after being in the EVO for a few months now I am going to play with the other roms. I just wanted to see if the most recent update had any changes worth staying on stock.
I will most likely be going to cm7. Since that's what I have on my craptivate.
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tnerb123 said:
Getting root back isn't a problem. I want a nandroid backup with the.latest. the original reason for me to root wasn't to run a custom Rom. It was to remove the extra bloatware.
But after being in the EVO for a few months now I am going to play with the other roms. I just wanted to see if the most recent update had any changes worth staying on stock.
I will most likely be going to cm7. Since that's what I have on my craptivate.
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ok but still why unroot? Just download a rooted version and if you like remove the bloatware. going back to stock you loose options and gain bloat.
Stock rooted is better than Stock non rooted....all day everyday

The issue is your custom recovery, not custom hboot. Sprint OTAs depend on the stock recovery, which in layman's terms is a "fake" recovery. It can't be used by the user but the recovery knows what to do with the OTA packages.
Look around for a PC36IMG.zip of the stock Sprint recovery.img. I saw one the other day in the Dev section.
And the latest OTA is rootable, just to clear that up.
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Oh and to answer your where does it download question...I believe in /data/tmp or /data/local/tmp, but i am not 100% sure. It believe it would be in one of the tmp folders for sure though.
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[Q] upgrade without losing root

Good day! My wife has her phone rooted with the stock 4.54 ROM that was in her phone when I rooted it. Has anyone come up with a way to update her phone to the current 4.67 version without losing root?
I know that I can just get a rooted, stock 4.67 ROM and flash it, but that is going to freak her out...starting over, so to speak. I guess like a few others I'm waiting for a rooted 4.67 update for a 4.54 ROM. If anyone knows of anything that can help, it would be great. If I could just let her upgrade and then re-root it using revolutionary, I certainly would.
Thank you for your time.

Only option is to back everything up in titanium backup, mybackup root, ultimate backup pro or something similar flash a stock rooted rom and restore all the apps and data for contacts just sync to Google and SMS use SMS backup/restore from market
We are legion, for we are many

nYdGeo said:
Good day! My wife has her phone rooted with the stock 4.54 ROM that was in her phone when I rooted it. Has anyone come up with a way to update her phone to the current 4.67 version without losing root?
I know that I can just get a rooted, stock 4.67 ROM and flash it, but that is going to freak her out...starting over, so to speak. I guess like a few others I'm waiting for a rooted 4.67 update for a 4.54 ROM. If anyone knows of anything that can help, it would be great. If I could just let her upgrade and then re-root it using revolutionary, I certainly would.
Thank you for your time.
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You could just do a nandroid, then wipe just cache & dalvik cache (I'd probably wipe boot and system too), then flash one of the stock rooted ROMs. That would preserve all the data, though it might cause some instability. But if it doesn't, you're golden. I might play around with actually putting together a rooted OTA zip, though I personally don't see a need for it. But that's a project for tomorrow.....

Thanks for the input, folks. I guess I'm going to go with the full backup of everything and flash the rooted stock. She'll just have to deal with it.
Have a great day!

Get Titanium or My Backup. She will lose call log and SMS. If this is an issue the get SMS backup. I flash a different ROM atleast twice per week and it is simple with Titanium. It usually puts every app back before I even open titanium. If something is missing you just go in and click restore.
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nYdGeo said:
Thanks for the input, folks. I guess I'm going to go with the full backup of everything and flash the rooted stock. She'll just have to deal with it.
Have a great day!
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So, per my post above, I was able to put together a rooted version of the OTA, but there are some restrictions on its use, unfortunately. It'll only work if you are currently rooted, and haven't removed any system apps. The OTA looks for each file that needs to be patched and if one is missing, it'll error out.
If you want to try it, let me know. All you have to do is flash it in recovery, actually. It's just like any other zip.

[Q] updaing my evo4g with OTA's and revolutionary

Quick noob question.
I rooted with unrevoked a while back and have been very happy.
Currently:
And. version 2.2
software 3.70.651.1
Hboot: 2.10.0001
Just wanted to update to the most recent OTA as I'm fine with running the stock ROM. Just wanted control over sprint bloatware and free wifi tether.
Do I need revolutionary and do I need to run each update in order or can I simply update via the most recent OTA (rooted OTA of course) and it be all inclusive of the changes throughout the preceeding updates?
Thanks for any help with my basics!

taywings55 said:
Quick noob question.
I rooted with unrevoked a while back and have been very happy.
Currently:
And. version 2.2
software 3.70.651.1
Hboot: 2.10.0001
Just wanted to update to the most recent OTA as I'm fine with running the stock ROM. Just wanted control over sprint bloatware and free wifi tether.
Do I need revolutionary and do I need to run each update in order or can I simply update via the most recent OTA (rooted OTA of course) and it be all inclusive of the changes throughout the preceeding updates?
Thanks for any help with my basics!
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Yeah never except an official ota.
You run the risk of losing root or bricking your precious evo. Its fine to flash an updated rooted ota over your 2.2. Also the official latest updates are apparently a pain in the ass to root (so I'm told).
There a couple devs that are pretty quick at pushing out the rooted ota's in the dev section. Just flash those to keep your control of your sprint bloat and not have the worries of rooting again.
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First, do NOT take an OTA if you are rooted, never.
Second, since you are rooted, there is no need to re-root, as long as you update the correct way. Just download a stock rooted rom for the latest ota in the dev section, and flash it like any other rom. That way you stay rooted, and are updated.

that im not sure about that, this will def work just bare with me ill get ya hooked up. put this file (evorec)in your c:
http://db.tt/RFKLNzlS
make sure its not zipped after you dl... open cdm type this in order.
cd\evorec you will get this evorec> then type in this.....
fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-supersonic-v3.11.img
it will force install recovery .i just tested this 3 times so i know it will work. inside the folder is ra 2.3 and 3.11 img. also the flash command i posted (you must be in fastboot for it to work). if you want to use 2.3 just change the numbers only in the flash command. if for some reason you cant dl the whole evorec file. copy all the contents make a evorec folder yourself and place it in c: follow the steps after that.
NOT OP

sitlet said:
First, do NOT take an OTA if you are rooted, never.
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Okay, a little late for me as well...in same boat as OP. I currently have it downloaded, when I try to install I get an exclamation in a triangle and a blue android. But, fortunately I can reboot and get back to my set-up. Is there a way to clear the download from my system/status bar?

[Q] Can I apply the 4.1 OTA update after root?

Sorry if this has been asked before and I missed it when searching, but on this sprint galaxy s3, can the OTA update be applied successfully after being rooted?
I ask because I just got one for my girlfriend and she wanted me to root it so that she can use the wifi tether program. And out of the box it was still on 4.0.4. I successfully rooted it with out any problem using the tool kit. And now it's prompting for the update every day, which is getting annoying to her. I told her to hold off till I can find a clear answer.
I know I can get a 4.1 rom and flash that now that it has cwm recovery on it if the update is a no go. Its just a manner of getting her to decide on which one she likes.

You can update but you can not use the normal OTA that she is getting the notification for if she has a custom recovery installed. The good thing is that, if you receive the notification and tell the phone to update it will fail and then stop nagging you for a while.
There are a few ways to go about updating if you want to. You can replace the stock recovery and then update. You can also manually apply the update (the update in in a ZIP in the cache folder). Move the update from cache to your sdcard and then flash it from CWM. This will only work if you are strictly stock (i.e. no modified or removed system files).

http://androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390135922294523494 flash in cwm/twrp. No wipe. This is a modified version of sprints update without the system checks

Cant say it enough. I have updated the normal ota way with root. Mine and my wifes as well

Thanks folks. Went ahead and had her run the ota and it was successful and she still has root.
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billard412 said:
http://androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390135922294523494 flash in cwm/twrp. No wipe. This is a modified version of sprints update without the system checks
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Muchas garcias Billiard. This will be so much easier than trying to restore all the bloatware apps!