[Q] upgrade without losing root - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Good day! My wife has her phone rooted with the stock 4.54 ROM that was in her phone when I rooted it. Has anyone come up with a way to update her phone to the current 4.67 version without losing root?
I know that I can just get a rooted, stock 4.67 ROM and flash it, but that is going to freak her out...starting over, so to speak. I guess like a few others I'm waiting for a rooted 4.67 update for a 4.54 ROM. If anyone knows of anything that can help, it would be great. If I could just let her upgrade and then re-root it using revolutionary, I certainly would.
Thank you for your time.

Only option is to back everything up in titanium backup, mybackup root, ultimate backup pro or something similar flash a stock rooted rom and restore all the apps and data for contacts just sync to Google and SMS use SMS backup/restore from market
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nYdGeo said:
Good day! My wife has her phone rooted with the stock 4.54 ROM that was in her phone when I rooted it. Has anyone come up with a way to update her phone to the current 4.67 version without losing root?
I know that I can just get a rooted, stock 4.67 ROM and flash it, but that is going to freak her out...starting over, so to speak. I guess like a few others I'm waiting for a rooted 4.67 update for a 4.54 ROM. If anyone knows of anything that can help, it would be great. If I could just let her upgrade and then re-root it using revolutionary, I certainly would.
Thank you for your time.
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You could just do a nandroid, then wipe just cache & dalvik cache (I'd probably wipe boot and system too), then flash one of the stock rooted ROMs. That would preserve all the data, though it might cause some instability. But if it doesn't, you're golden. I might play around with actually putting together a rooted OTA zip, though I personally don't see a need for it. But that's a project for tomorrow.....

Thanks for the input, folks. I guess I'm going to go with the full backup of everything and flash the rooted stock. She'll just have to deal with it.
Have a great day!

Get Titanium or My Backup. She will lose call log and SMS. If this is an issue the get SMS backup. I flash a different ROM atleast twice per week and it is simple with Titanium. It usually puts every app back before I even open titanium. If something is missing you just go in and click restore.
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nYdGeo said:
Thanks for the input, folks. I guess I'm going to go with the full backup of everything and flash the rooted stock. She'll just have to deal with it.
Have a great day!
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So, per my post above, I was able to put together a rooted version of the OTA, but there are some restrictions on its use, unfortunately. It'll only work if you are currently rooted, and haven't removed any system apps. The OTA looks for each file that needs to be patched and if one is missing, it'll error out.
If you want to try it, let me know. All you have to do is flash it in recovery, actually. It's just like any other zip.

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[Q] 2.3 ota + root

ok my friend made me root his evo so he can tether while he went on vacation like 2 months ago. now he doesn't care if he is rooted or not and since the update is coming i figured i should ask this.
ok so ive googled, googled, and googled some more and i can't find a straitup f***ing answer to this. since my friend is rooted but still on the stock rom, if he accepts the 2.3 ots will he:
1. loose root and be stock on stock 2.3 rom
2. turn his pretty little evo into a fancy paper weight
just give me a 1 or 2 as a comment so i know whether or not to have him drive over and make me unroot it for him since he lives kinda far away and doesn't come often...
1. Lose root and be on 2.3
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^This guy.
But I am a bit confused myself. What exactly is edited in the android system so that we have root access?
If he's removed any system apps, he won't be able to accept the OTA. I've never personally had this problem because I've never tried, but I have heard of others experiencing issues.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
plainjane said:
If he's removed any system apps, he won't be able to accept the OTA. I've never personally had this problem because I've never tried, but I have heard of others experiencing issues.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
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he didn't delete any of the apps so...
Yeah but does he have a custom recovery? If he has cwm or amon ra I don't think the ota will flash.
if you cant live large, look big in the coffin!!!
Completely stock , accept the ota and loose root will be the only issue. Only if everything is untouched, no frozen apps or anything. Just tell him to sync his contacts and what not prior to.
UnrEVOked has some info on un-rooting and going back to RUU. I believe it's on their forever root page for EVO. Basically (don't quote me) they recommend getting a older stock Rom and flashing that before update.
Also you could go back to the nandroid you did of his stock setup... (you did a nandroid right?!) And then update which will cause you to lose root.
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monkeychef said:
^This guy.
But I am a bit confused myself. What exactly is edited in the android system so that we have root access?
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Read THIS. I hope that answers your question....
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His phone is bone stock except for root and amon recovery. No frozen apps no custom rom. So he should be fine?
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He'll be fine. He's just going to lose root and custom recovery.
A system upgrade is like a Windows upgrade. Totally reformats and installs the OS
Ok thanks
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Does the same apply if I have a custom kernel installed?
There have been cases where people have bricked their phones doing an OTA. Since a lot of things change and vary between ROMs, it is best to just unroot, and then accept the OTA.
Or, simply wait a day or two, someone will have a rooted version of the new OTA posted over in the development threads. Problems solved and avoided
the update will probably fail
i have a question. im on cm7 and i want to try the new gingerbread update, i have unrevoked forever. if i go back to a stock rom and remove my recovery can i get the ota?
You need to go back to stock recovery and you can get the OTA, as far as losing root, I had unrevoked forever and I was able to just flash a new recovery after it was done and I was fine. It didnt reformat anything nor will they have an update that reformats your data. I still had superuser installed. I tested this on 3.3 OTA back in the day, but there is no telling what HTC will do with each update. Now I use custom roms and just wait for my favorite devs the incorporate it into the rom. Best bet is to wait till the rooted update is on the forums and install that.
dr_acula_sxe said:
i have a question. im on cm7 and i want to try the new gingerbread update, i have unrevoked forever. if i go back to a stock rom and remove my recovery can i get the ota?
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So, what you're saying is that, if you get your phone back to how it was when you bought it and first took it out of the box, factory setup, can you get the official factory release for updating your factory set phone to the new factory released update??
Did you SERIOUSLY just ask that????
HipKat said:
So, what you're saying is that, if you get your phone back to how it was when you bought it and first took it out of the box, factory setup, can you get the official factory release for updating your factory set phone to the new factory released update??
Did you SERIOUSLY just ask that????
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im sure he means revert to an earlier nand backup and restore

4.53.651.1 install after revolutionary

Anyone else trying to update stock to 4.53.651.1 but it fails to install? If you take the ota after revolutionarys unlock I can not install the update. I believe this is due to the hboot version. Which seems to be how they got around the locking in he first place.
Also where is the ota on the phone? I want to pull it off the phone and try a re ruu and install it again.
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tnerb123 said:
Anyone else trying to update stock to 4.53.651.1 but it fails to install? If you take the ota after revolutionarys unlock I can not install the update. I believe this is due to the hboot version. Which seems to be how they got around the locking in he first place.
Also where is the ota on the phone? I want to pull it off the phone and try a re ruu and install it again.
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Have you checked Development section for the latest stock rom. Also why would you try to do an OTA after rooting. It may take away your root. Just wait it out or try a custom rom that probably has more than the stock 4.53 rom.
You rooted to get away from stock why go back when you now have options better than stock.
Rooted Stock Roms link here
Getting root back isn't a problem. I want a nandroid backup with the.latest. the original reason for me to root wasn't to run a custom Rom. It was to remove the extra bloatware.
But after being in the EVO for a few months now I am going to play with the other roms. I just wanted to see if the most recent update had any changes worth staying on stock.
I will most likely be going to cm7. Since that's what I have on my craptivate.
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tnerb123 said:
Getting root back isn't a problem. I want a nandroid backup with the.latest. the original reason for me to root wasn't to run a custom Rom. It was to remove the extra bloatware.
But after being in the EVO for a few months now I am going to play with the other roms. I just wanted to see if the most recent update had any changes worth staying on stock.
I will most likely be going to cm7. Since that's what I have on my craptivate.
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ok but still why unroot? Just download a rooted version and if you like remove the bloatware. going back to stock you loose options and gain bloat.
Stock rooted is better than Stock non rooted....all day everyday
The issue is your custom recovery, not custom hboot. Sprint OTAs depend on the stock recovery, which in layman's terms is a "fake" recovery. It can't be used by the user but the recovery knows what to do with the OTA packages.
Look around for a PC36IMG.zip of the stock Sprint recovery.img. I saw one the other day in the Dev section.
And the latest OTA is rootable, just to clear that up.
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Oh and to answer your where does it download question...I believe in /data/tmp or /data/local/tmp, but i am not 100% sure. It believe it would be in one of the tmp folders for sure though.
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[Q] Question about un-rooting & OTA....

Hello. I have seen a several different ways to go about un-rooting and ways to get the OTA. My question is, what is the best way to un-root and get 2.3.6? I am already rooted using bombaradier 3.5. I don't mean to make another thread about this again, but I am getting confused with all of the different postings and ways to go about this process. If someone could provide links to the most updated way to un-root and get 2.3.6, It would be a great birthday present for me. lol.
PS. I did get the OTA, but I froze it using Titanium. If that matters...
Thanks a Lot
Cleanest way is just to back up your apps with titanium backup, flash the stock rom, update, re-root, reinstall titanium and apps.
Or, just flash a new rom with update pre-installed and de-bloated.
allted said:
Cleanest way is just to back up your apps with titanium backup, flash the stock rom, update, re-root, reinstall titanium and apps.
Or, just flash a new rom with update pre-installed and de-bloated.
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I know of several users (including me) who just updated using Kies (and then rooted again via Odin). This is a no-wipe solution that requires re-root but old apps and data are preserved
My is rooted when i received the OTA update for 2.3.6. I did not unroot and let the update do their thing. After few minutes my SGS2 is 2.3.6 with working wifi calling. Note: Once you update you need to use the sim that came with the phone in order for wifi to work. Hope this helps.
dave2metz said:
Hello. I have seen a several different ways to go about un-rooting and ways to get the OTA. My question is, what is the best way to un-root and get 2.3.6? I am already rooted using bombaradier 3.5. I don't mean to make another thread about this again, but I am getting confused with all of the different postings and ways to go about this process. If someone could provide links to the most updated way to un-root and get 2.3.6, It would be a great birthday present for me. lol.
PS. I did get the OTA, but I froze it using Titanium. If that matters...
Thanks a Lot
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dave2metz said:
Hello. I have seen a several different ways to go about un-rooting and ways to get the OTA. My question is, what is the best way to un-root and get 2.3.6? I am already rooted using bombaradier 3.5. I don't mean to make another thread about this again, but I am getting confused with all of the different postings and ways to go about this process. If someone could provide links to the most updated way to un-root and get 2.3.6, It would be a great birthday present for me. lol.
PS. I did get the OTA, but I froze it using Titanium. If that matters...
Thanks a Lot
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Ummm, if you are using a custom ROM , trying to get the OTA could be very dangerous ... Better bet is just find an updated custom ROM and flash it ...
If you are going to go to stock, make sure you use Odin and not a "stock" rom. I was on Bombardier 3.5 and flashed Zedomax's stock rom with CWM, except the Synergy kernel stuck which caused a few problems. Then, I just flashed the 2.3.6 tar.md5 with Odin. Now everything is fine and I'm looking for a new ROM to flash.
DinkinFlicka said:
If you are going to go to stock, make sure you use Odin and not a "stock" rom. I was on Bombardier 3.5 and flashed Zedomax's stock rom with CWM, except the Synergy kernel stuck which caused a few problems. Then, I just flashed the 2.3.6 tar.md5 with Odin. Now everything is fine and I'm looking for a new ROM to flash.
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where can i get the 2.3.6... this happened to me also. and is there a video how to flash with odin..
need help asap
thanks
theres a you tube app thay someone made..its flashable too...im not cpu to send it..type unroot tmobile galaxy s2.....i hope it helps
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Will rooted stock rom with CWM get JB update OTA ok?

If my S3 is stock rom but rooted with cwm recovery loaded, will I be able to get the AT&T OTA JB update once it rolls out with no issues? I understand I might lose root, but is that it? I know it will be a couple more months, just want to be sure the phone will be able to get this with no issues when the time comes.
wiz4769 said:
If my S3 is stock rom but rooted with cwm recovery loaded, will I be able to get the AT&T OTA JB update once it rolls out with no issues? I understand I might lose root, but is that it? I know it will be a couple more months, just want to be sure the phone will be able to get this with no issues when the time comes.
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From what I understand, you need the stock recovery in place for OTA updates, otherwise they will fail. Which makes sense.
Ok that makes since, so closer to go time I can just put the stock recovery.img on there right?? Is it that simple?
wiz4769 said:
Ok that makes since, so closer to go time I can just put the stock recovery.img on there right?? Is it that simple?
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flash to stock via Odin, so yes...
-Ryan
Or you could just wait until the update drops and somebody posts a stock rooted version and update it through Odin.
Ok so have to flash the stock rom itself and not just the recovery. I have only really used an older Galaxy S1 to mess with flashing and stuff and never cared about the apps and everything, just would put a rom on there and when needed put it back to stock(borrowed it for a couple months). So if I do a titanium backup of apps+system data I can flash the stock rom, I assume root again and then restore the apps? let it update and Im done, or assuming the stock At&T JB rom is available on XDA I can just flash it on there, root and restore from titanium? Those are the 2 options if I want to stick with stock right?
wiz4769 said:
Ok so have to flash the stock rom itself and not just the recovery. I have only really used an older Galaxy S1 to mess with flashing and stuff and never cared about the apps and everything, just would put a rom on there and when needed put it back to stock(borrowed it for a couple months). So if I do a titanium backup of apps+system data I can flash the stock rom, I assume root again and then restore the apps? let it update and Im done, or assuming the stock At&T JB rom is available on XDA I can just flash it on there, root and restore from titanium? Those are the 2 options if I want to stick with stock right?
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Right, but it's not usually recommended that you install apps+data with TiBu; better to just install apps only.
-Ryan
Got ya, I do a backup with apps and data to be safe, but you can just restore apps only from that right?
wiz4769 said:
Got ya, I do a backup with apps and data to be safe, but you can just restore apps only from that right?
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You can. Though could also just let the Play Store redownload your apps for you.

[Q] Question Upgrading Rooted Device

So, I have a question on upgrading my G3.
I am currently permarooted using PurpleDrake. No TWRP. I'm currently running 10c.
Is it safe for me to run the OTA and upgrade to 10m as is? Or do I need to unroot first? If I have to unroot first can I use the Unroot option in SuperSU? Or do I have to reflash the stock ROM?
Thank you for your time.
Yaaar said:
So, I have a question on upgrading my G3.
I am currently permarooted using PurpleDrake. No TWRP. I'm currently running 10c.
Is it safe for me to run the OTA and upgrade to 10m as is? Or do I need to unroot first? If I have to unroot first can I use the Unroot option in SuperSU? Or do I have to reflash the stock ROM?
Thank you for your time.
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It all depends on if you have modded the system or not. ie: frozen any apps or removed any system files. If you have not then you can flash the stock recovery, run the OTA, then reflash TWRP. If you have modded the system then either undo your mods, or you can just flash the stock rom. For me I didn't fuss with making sure my system was perfect, I just flashed the stock 10c with flashtool, took the OTA to 10m, re rooted and then restored everything
Well, that's what I thought. I was hoping I wouldn't have to reflash stock. It always takes a couple hours. Then, after the reflash/upgrade; the backup/restore always seems to miss something; especially app data for some reason. Then after that, I have to go and readjust all my settings.
I guess I'll just wait for a major update. 10m doesn't seem to offer enough improvements to warrant the hassle.
Thank you for your reply.
Flash zone's 10m rom.
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