So far I have always been running rooted stock ROMS. From what I read they tent to be very stable, the battery last longer, and do not lose some features (4G, HDMI) etc.
However lately, probably because of the apps I have installed, the phone is pretty slow, the memory on the phone is running out and does not work properly.
It is time for a complete wipe. However I am not the kind the person that change rom once a week. I would like something for the long term.
I have a few questions (feel free to answer to a subset of them):
1) I can I maximize the free space on the phone? On stock you can update a stock app (ex flash, acrobat reader, etc) but you cannot uninstalled. I was wondering if after the update, I have now the app taking twice as much space that is supposed to.
2) What is the best way to backup all the apps on the phone and restore them quickly, being able to chose what and what not? I am using Titanium Backup but it is not clear what is an installed app and what is system app. How do I guarantee that I do not lose the app data? I am trying to find a way that once I update the ROM I can configure/restore the apps that I want without having to spend hours on it. What I am afraid is to install/restore something that it is not going to work but it takes spaces on the phone. One of the thing I really want to keep is the email configuration (3 gmails account, 1 hotmail and the link with Facebook accounts).
3) I am using App 2 SD Free but there are some large apps that cannot be moved on the SD (gmail, facebook, qik, flash, maps, twitter, Google Music, G+, etc). Does any work around exist to save precious space on the phone?
4) Regarding stability, not bloated, and full features available on OTA (4G, Bluetooth, HDMI, etc) What is the best ROM? I was looking into Fresh Evo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20101297), Swagged Out (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258932), Sprint Updated 2.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321340), Clean Rom 1.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351890). I am leaning toward Fresh Evo because the author have been updating for a long time). Any suggestions?
Best,
Camicia
Camicia said:
So far I have always been running rooted stock ROMS. From what I read they tent to be very stable, the battery last longer, and do not lose some features (4G, HDMI) etc.
However lately, probably because of the apps I have installed, the phone is pretty slow, the memory on the phone is running out and does not work properly.
It is time for a complete wipe. However I am not the kind the person that change rom once a week. I would like something for the long term.
I have a few questions (feel free to answer to a subset of them):
1) I can I maximize the free space on the phone? On stock you can update a stock app (ex flash, acrobat reader, etc) but you cannot uninstalled. I was wondering if after the update, I have now the app taking twice as much space that is supposed to.
Use A2SD, in terminal type:
SU
a2sd cachesd
Moves your Dalvik Cache to the SD Card. Free'd up about 200+MB on mine
2) What is the best way to backup all the apps on the phone and restore them quickly, being able to chose what and what not? I am using Titanium Backup but it is not clear what is an installed app and what is system app. How do I guarantee that I do not lose the app data? I am trying to find a way that once I update the ROM I can configure/restore the apps that I want without having to spend hours on it. What I am afraid is to install/restore something that it is not going to work but it takes spaces on the phone. One of the thing I really want to keep is the email configuration (3 gmails account, 1 hotmail and the link with Facebook accounts).
It's actually very easy to tell which are user apps with TB. They're the ones in white text
3) I am using App 2 SD Free but there are some large apps that cannot be moved on the SD (gmail, facebook, qik, flash, maps, twitter, Google Music, G+, etc). Does any work around exist to save precious space on the phone?
4) Regarding stability, not bloated, and full features available on OTA (4G, Bluetooth, HDMI, etc) What is the best ROM? I was looking into Fresh Evo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20101297), Swagged Out (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258932), Sprint Updated 2.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321340), Clean Rom 1.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351890). I am leaning toward Fresh Evo because the author have been updating for a long time). Any suggestions?
MIUI, as long as you don't need 4G, everything else works and it's extremely stable. Other than a few times trying other ROMs, I've been using it as a Daily since June
Best,
Camicia
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Thank you for your answers. I have some follow up questions:
1)
Use A2SD, in terminal type:
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a2sd cachesd
Moves your Dalvik Cache to the SD Card. Free'd up about 200+MB on mine
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What is the quickest way to use terminal? Do I need the dev tools on my computer and put the phone in debug mode?
Where is the Dalvik Cache normally stored? I thought it was on RAM. Since it is a cache, I would expect that it changes often. Is it not going to wear out the sd card quickly?
2) The point is that I want to save also some system settings (ex: remembered password of wifis, browser history, sync settings, etc). Last backup save 203 items. It is going to be a pain to go thought one by one.
4) I looked at MIUI but I ruled it out because it does not support 4G. I use it every now and then.
Like you I was having some problems with my rooted stock (low phone memory, slow and some other performance issues).
I downloaded ROM Manager and then made a backup of my rooted stock. You can also do it manually by booting into recovery but ROM Manager is easier though some people will say is more prone to errors. Also download Titanium Backup or something similar and save all of the apps (both download and system apps).
Once I backed up my rooted stock ROM I then downloaded and installed the latest Cyanogenmod. As this does not have HTC Sense or bloatware I immediately got a significant amount of free space that handles all that I load.
One thing with Cyanogenmod 7.1, some people like myself will have freezing issues if you have less than 130 MB of free space on the phone. This is not a problem for me as I have more than that available. I chose Cyanogoenmod ROM over MIUI ROM as Cyanogenmod allows for 4G. Take a look though at all of the ROMs out there and decide for yourself.
I find that everything is running faster now and I no longer have the Bloat that Sprint put on the phone. You can also move more apps over to the SD Card freeing up more internal memory.
Apps like Flash and Adobe Reader can be downloaded from the Market and are updated just like any other app.
Good luck
Uhh, no to ROM Manager. It's known to cause problems.
The Terminal is an app. You use it on your phone.
AS for system settings, only a very few can be successfully moved from ROM to ROM. The only thing I backup is my Alarms. You don't have to do them one at a time, you know. Hit Menu, Batch and then you can do them en masse
Depending on how many apps you load on your phone you may want to re-partition your SD card if you have the space and create a 1-2 gig ext2 or ext3 partition to use for apps2sd. The main reason I rooted my EVO was because I constantly kept running out of space on my phone. I'm an app addict though and have been known to have up to 200+ apps on my phone before I re-flash it with another rom. With a 1.5 gig partition and apps2d, I have never run out of space for apps on my phone though If you do decide to re-partition your SD card you will need to completely backup your SD card to your PC first as it will wipe all data on the card. I have a 16 gig class 10card in my EVO and the speed is pretty good.
i would give energy sensation a go, i was using that rom as my daily it is really staple, great battery life and improves the video recording to 1080p HD as well as plenty of other little tweaks here and there....I am running ics-decks-pre-alpha7 which i am really liking only thing is you would have to be willing to give up your camera til a stable alpha or beta is released. I hope this helps...
I have been running the Sprint Updated 2.0 Final for a few weeks (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20631581 ). I also re-partition my SD card with 1.5Gb (if I remember well). So far everything is good except:
1) I have 99Mb free on the phone. I think the main reason is that I disinstall some of the Sprint Bloatware and haven't reinstall all the apps. However I started having problems when I had 60Mb available before the upgrade to this new ROM. So I am afraid that I am getting close :-/
2) Wifi Tether has problems. I am experience the problem here: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1288 .
The workaround with Barnacle alleviate the problem but beside being annoying that I have to start Bernacle first and then the Wi-Fi tether, it sometimes stop working (I think it is when I I use the 4G and the 4g connection is lost) and I have to go though the cycle again :-/
Best,
Camicia
Best ROM is probably team nocturnal's shooter, but everyone likes different stuff.
I sure my backup root to back up and restore apps
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I use my backup root I meant lol
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I think that one ROM that's 2.3.7 but they managed to get the ics launcher on it. My ***** runs it, so I forgot the name. Sorry I use a ns4g
Edit: it's by chadthegreat.
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Your *****?? nice.... <sarcasm>
Yes my *****. Because I think I could do better.
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Your *****?? nice.... <sarcasm>
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Im on Mikg v3.0 w. Less freedom kernel and its extremely stable smooth and complete im not sure if it has 4g (im on metro so only got 3g) i do reflash like crazy but this ROM has me pretty satisfied i havent flashed in a while u might lose a thing or two but nothing u cant live w. Out.
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If u want AOSP evo-deck-(gingerbread 2.3.7) only takes up 13mb of internal on initial boot 19mb after flashing gapps and its really stable too u might have to fix gps but thats the only issue i ran into (which is just a flashable zip if you do have to) and you can move the majority of apps to sd like CM it has a allow move to external option.
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Hello! I've had my HTC Incredible for a few months now, and only just decided to root my phone to the unrevoked3 method for root access.
I did this primarily because I'd like to overclock my phone to run faster, and I'd like to wirelessly tether it without paying any fees to Verizon.
My first question is -- what are the best ways to do that? I know there's a Wireless Tether for Rooted Users app, but I want to make sure I download the right one that won't get me charged by Verizon later down the road. Also, what is the best app for overclocking my Incredible?
I have a few other questions related to rooting my Incredible:
- How exactly does the root work with the SD card? It doesn't recognize it, so I'm assuming it think it is a part of the internal phone memory. Is there a way to see how much space I have left on it at all?
- After rooting, I lost a few apps and have had to re-download them. However, there are some apps that I can't, primarily those from the Amazon AppStore. How do I retreive those?
- Is there some sort of back-up software I can use to prevent the loss of apps in the future?
- What ROMs does everyone recommend I get? I've been looking at CM7, but you guys would know better -- any suggestions? EDIT: I do fancy Sense, but I'd be more than willing to replace it if something came along that looks even remotely good. I'm not that attached to it.
Thanks!
Search for "Wireless Tether" the top result is the one ya want... Has most downloads.
Put sd card reader in computer and copy any files to puter, then format in fat32. Now put apps back on card and put in phone. Apps should be back and you should see it now.
Dont mess with roms myself....
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ejsholly said:
Hello! I've had my HTC Incredible for a few months now, and only just decided to root my phone to the unrevoked3 method for root access.
I did this primarily because I'd like to overclock my phone to run faster, and I'd like to wirelessly tether it without paying any fees to Verizon.
My first question is -- what are the best ways to do that? I know there's a Wireless Tether for Rooted Users app, but I want to make sure I download the right one that won't get me charged by Verizon later down the road. Also, what is the best app for overclocking my Incredible?
I have a few other questions related to rooting my Incredible:
- How exactly does the root work with the SD card? It doesn't recognize it, so I'm assuming it think it is a part of the internal phone memory. Is there a way to see how much space I have left on it at all?
- After rooting, I lost a few apps and have had to re-download them. However, there are some apps that I can't, primarily those from the Amazon AppStore. How do I retreive those?
- Is there some sort of back-up software I can use to prevent the loss of apps in the future?
- What ROMs does everyone recommend I get? I've been looking at CM7, but you guys would know better -- any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Nils business sense z. Kernel built in will oc, very stable for me at 1.114 , also has wireless tether an wifi hotspot built in. Its a great rom.
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Titanium Backup will backup and restore all user installed apps. To restore apps from the Amazon market, it should be as simple as installing it and then re-downloading the apps in "My Apps".
As for ROMs, I'm fond of MIUI which is based on CM7 (I believe) and influenced by iOS. It is AOSP, but has its own unique lockscreen and app management. I've been running it since Nov. 2010 so I can't help you out any further. MIUI also has built in usb tether and hotspot, but I've never messed with either. Might mention if you are a fan of Sense or not for others to comment.
From what Ive seen overclocking doesnt offer much for our phones, only in the range of about 150-200 MHz which isn't really noticeable, but if you wanna do it knock yourself out!
As for ROMs I'd suggest Incredibly Re-engineered.
ejsholly said:
Hello! I've had my HTC Incredible for a few months now, and only just decided to root my phone to the unrevoked3 method for root access.
I did this primarily because I'd like to overclock my phone to run faster, and I'd like to wirelessly tether it without paying any fees to Verizon.
My first question is -- what are the best ways to do that? I know there's a Wireless Tether for Rooted Users app, but I want to make sure I download the right one that won't get me charged by Verizon later down the road. Also, what is the best app for overclocking my Incredible?
I have a few other questions related to rooting my Incredible:
- How exactly does the root work with the SD card? It doesn't recognize it, so I'm assuming it think it is a part of the internal phone memory. Is there a way to see how much space I have left on it at all?
- After rooting, I lost a few apps and have had to re-download them. However, there are some apps that I can't, primarily those from the Amazon AppStore. How do I retreive those?
- Is there some sort of back-up software I can use to prevent the loss of apps in the future?
- What ROMs does everyone recommend I get? I've been looking at CM7, but you guys would know better -- any suggestions? EDIT: I do fancy Sense, but I'd be more than willing to replace it if something came along that looks even remotely good. I'm not that attached to it.
Thanks!
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Give carbonite fusion v.5 a try, been very reliable and stable, some Roms you will run into random reboots but I can't say its happened yet with this Rom, I liked the stock kernal in this Rom but I liked seeing the higher number so I use a ziggy kernal overclocked to 1.229.
I'll give a random testimonial. Check out warm z twopointtwo Nightlies......they're very stable and do not have any problems. The look and feel of the UI is revamped to reflect the look of Android 2.3 and it uses sense 2.0 which allows for dock theming and more customizability......it comes with ziggys kernel preinstalled which has a different scheduler which helps your phone run smoother and slightly faster......all in all a great Rom
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In regards to Titanium Backup, you will need to d/l the app, and then buy the Pro version in the market. Costs a few bucks, but gives you access to all of the features. best part is that it puts the pro key on your SD card, so no matter what ROM you d/l, your first stop should be the market to re-d/l Titanium. it will see the pro key, and like that you can restore nearly every app. you backed up.
BTW, I'm a huge fan of Redemptive rEVOlution, killer ROM that is fast, stable, and gives great batt life.
I have a quick root noob question. If I get caught in a boot loop. When I go into recovery to upload a backup do I need to wipe data/cache/dalvik or just hit restore? If I restore I don't have to go through the setup process again do I?
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Always a good idea to wipe when flashing nearly everything. When you restore a backup, you do not need to do the setup again, even if you wipe first. You will go back to EXACTLY the state it was in when you backed it up.
Thanks. I want to try an app again that might have put me in a boot loop. Does anyone know if jrummy16 root tools or anim mod would work with nilsP business z Rom
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I have been doing the trial and error method for the past 6 days with roms, hopefully finally finding the one for me to stick with for a while. (otherwise my wife may either divorce me or start digging my grave in the backyard)
My question is how many Nandroid backups should I keep? I currently have three in the Nandroid folder I show through ES file explorer. Are these safe to delete all but the most recent? What is the easiest way to make a backup of my current rom?
You can delete old ones so long as you know you have a solid one on there. You can also move themto your computer / external HDD to save space as they can add up. I keep a good one handy and store some other ones for various reasons.
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Keep as many or as few as you want, or are limited by disk space.
If disk space is no concern, keep 'em all. For practical purposes, I'd keep the last 3 or 4. Append a meaningful description devoid of spaces to the bdes* directory name so you have some clue what's unique about that backup.
The most obvious feature of most roms is the way the UI is configured. Keep in mind, that using a third party launcher configured YOUR way, you can make almost any rom look like any other. Be more concerned with what's under the hood than pure appearance. I recently switched from the rom in my sig to cm7, but the UI is 99% unchanged because I'm using the same launcher I used in evio (adw ex). The difference is in the status bar, pull down, and most importantly battery life (better). ymmv
I have a good cm7 set up and a good mikefroyo set up. I always update the nandroid before I flash something new if the ROM im wiping out of is stable.
Thanks for the advice so far...I may need to move some to my PC soon until I upgrade to a bigger SD card....gotta get rid of 8GB card as with this phone I know I will want more space!!!
I have been running out of space lately, even with my CM7 a2sd+
Was considering getting another ROM which has data2sd, but luckily I found another way. A much better way.
There is a free app on the Android Market called simple2ext.
Now if you are running CM7 and have an ext4 partition, use this app to transfer all your apps, your davlik and cache (data is possible, but not recommended) to that ext4 partition, and your phone will think everything is still on phone memory. That means, yes, widgets can be used while they are installed on your SD. I now run 80% free phone memory
Well happy. I even donated the gold donation ($5) to the developer of simple2ext.
Thanks for the tipp. Will try it!
Klewe
In the thread for cyanogenmod 7 you find a nice thread for this program:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917377
There is also given another possibility, which i would prefer:
Legacy App2SD Addon Script
This is an absolutely priceless app! It has saved me the nightmare of constantly seeing the low memory warning. Now I can save as many apps to my Desire as I want!
Note: make sure you set your target destination for app downloads to internal. The app takes care of the rest for you.
Many thanks to the Dev
Excellent!
At some points I was thinking about throwing my Desire out the window. Now it's like a completely different phone.
It helps, but if u try another HBOOT, you will get more space without slowing the phone down. But its more risky
My handset is still lightning fast without another hboot
I think this is quicker, neater and easier for the same result
Personal preference though
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I'm running a stock, rooted Sense ROM (2.3.3) with Go Launcher (Sense kept re-launching every time I closed an app).
I have close to 140 apps installed, including the stock EVO apps, and 21 megs free. The low storage space alert is always in the notification bar.
My phone runs pretty slow: screen updates, opening apps, etc. Often, if I try to switch screens or go into settings, I have to wait... and wait.
This has been going on for months, and is constant - it never runs fast anymore.
I'm guessing it has to do with only having 21 megs available for apps? As far as what might be running in the background, in typical android fashion, if I open a task manager it will usually show eight to ten apps running. Apps I haven't used in days or weeks! Who knows why these apps are open.
Does anyone know of a thread or source for tracking down what might make these phones run so slow? Am I not allowed to have that many apps installed?
Well you say that you are rooted. So the first thing I would do is download Titanium backup from the market and "freeze" or uninstall all the sprint apps that you don't use. This will free up some space and help. Then go and find out about "V6 Supercharger". It is a script that will speed up your phone and stop the home screen from having to load every time. It's awesome.
Now if you are fully rooted, I would recomment flashing a new ROM. This will solve all of your problems at once. You can use titanium backup to backup all your apps and data then flash a ROM. Restore your apps, and use the V6 supercharger. It will be very zippy. I would recommend MikG for ya.
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I'm running a stock, rooted Sense ROM (2.3.3) with Go Launcher (Sense kept re-launching every time I closed an app).
I have close to 140 apps installed, including the stock EVO apps, and 21 megs free. The low storage space alert is always in the notification bar.
My phone runs pretty slow: screen updates, opening apps, etc. Often, if I try to switch screens or go into settings, I have to wait... and wait.
This has been going on for months, and is constant - it never runs fast anymore.
I'm guessing it has to do with only having 21 megs available for apps? As far as what might be running in the background, in typical android fashion, if I open a task manager it will usually show eight to ten apps running. Apps I haven't used in days or weeks! Who knows why these apps are open.
Does anyone know of a thread or source for tracking down what might make these phones run so slow? Am I not allowed to have that many apps installed?
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This should help you out.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386911
Thanks.
Rocket, I forgot to mention that I already had Titanium BU installed and had removed many of the Sprint bloatware (been using TBU ever since I rooted over a year ago).
Will check out V6 Supercharger, however, I still don't know if remaining storage space is related to a phone's system speed.
Diablo, I saw that thread a few days ago. I didn't read it in detail though, just skimmed it.
I guess I will read it in detail and try out all those suggestions. My main desire is to have 4G, wireless tether, and the camera all work. That prevents me from using some of the ROM's out there that break those features. Oh, and having it respond quickly.
Getting rid of those annoying "Low on storage space" messages would also be great, but I guess I'll have to wait till my next phone for that!
Have you tries partitionong your sd card and using darktremora apps2sd I have 140 apps installed and over 200 megs of internal memory left
tha23kidd said:
Have you tries partitionong your sd card and using darktremora apps2sd I have 140 apps installed and over 200 megs of internal memory left
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I installed Brads updated Sprint V3 beta 4 last week. It has DT baked in I think.
I have yet to partition, but now I have about 80 Meg's free and the system speed is back!
I guess internal free space does indeed affect system speed.
leebo said:
I installed Brads updated Sprint V3 beta 4 last week. It has DT baked in I think.
I have yet to partition, but now I have about 80 Meg's free and the system speed is back!
I guess internal free space does indeed affect system speed.
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Your best bet is to hit that thread and partition your sd card,its essential fo newer roms trust me and leave at least 32MB of swap when doing a partition.
I have the original KF and it's rooted to use CM10 rom. However, a lot of the apps are crashing / FCing frequently and I'm not sure if it's my KF dying or just the rom is too bloated. For example, when I use Chrome browser and use Tunein or Live365, the latter would crash a lot. Even in Chrome, the keyboard would sometime not respond or won't even display when I want to type something into the address bar. I tried Maxthon and it would complain about low memory even if it's the only app running.
I tried the following roms:
HellFire JB
CM10.1 / SGT7
SmoothRom (keep saying my apps can't be installed)
All of them are exhibiting the same problems. When I use EX Task Manager and close programs, only 150MB of memory is available afterward. So should I just give up and downgrade back to ICS?
Downgrade to ICS?...well if you hate having a somewhat decent battery life I would say that would be good lol. Seriously though....the issue with Chrome and the keyboard has been experienced by many users. In your process of wiping ROMs, have you ever wiped the SD card partition to clear everything out?
If you want more memory you might want to go back to GB because compared to JB and ICS, it is far more lightweight.
Yep. I did wipe the SD card and Android Secure last 2 times when I install the ROMs. I'll double check GB roms and see what are still available. There is really no point in battery life if the apps keep crashing, it's as good as a flash light at this point.
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it's as good as a flash light at this point.
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Best flashlight I ever saw! Lol.......by the way, how many apps do you actually have installed? Maybe tweaking the OOM settings would help?
In TWA_priv's ROM if you go to developer options and go top the bottom and find the apps section. Try unchecking kill background processes, and keep background activities set to 6. This MIGHT help, seemed to help with the chrome issue. That plus a full wipe
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From my own experience, I had an extremely laggy KF running cm10. I did a full wipe and am running twa's cm10.1 and its a world of a difference.
Here's what I did to help speed:
Full wipe (cache/dalvik/system)
Delete unused folders on sdcard
Flash twa_priv's cm10.1 & newest GApps
SetCPU to max OC
Install only necessary apps (I have ~60 apps total)
Keep as few apps open at a time
Both of the cm10.1 ROMS (twa's and hashcodes) are running very smoothly. Granted the KF is extremely limited by its RAM, try clean installing one of those ROMS and it may breathe new life into your KF! :good: