safe to delete? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have been doing the trial and error method for the past 6 days with roms, hopefully finally finding the one for me to stick with for a while. (otherwise my wife may either divorce me or start digging my grave in the backyard)
My question is how many Nandroid backups should I keep? I currently have three in the Nandroid folder I show through ES file explorer. Are these safe to delete all but the most recent? What is the easiest way to make a backup of my current rom?

You can delete old ones so long as you know you have a solid one on there. You can also move themto your computer / external HDD to save space as they can add up. I keep a good one handy and store some other ones for various reasons.
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Keep as many or as few as you want, or are limited by disk space.
If disk space is no concern, keep 'em all. For practical purposes, I'd keep the last 3 or 4. Append a meaningful description devoid of spaces to the bdes* directory name so you have some clue what's unique about that backup.
The most obvious feature of most roms is the way the UI is configured. Keep in mind, that using a third party launcher configured YOUR way, you can make almost any rom look like any other. Be more concerned with what's under the hood than pure appearance. I recently switched from the rom in my sig to cm7, but the UI is 99% unchanged because I'm using the same launcher I used in evio (adw ex). The difference is in the status bar, pull down, and most importantly battery life (better). ymmv

I have a good cm7 set up and a good mikefroyo set up. I always update the nandroid before I flash something new if the ROM im wiping out of is stable.

Thanks for the advice so far...I may need to move some to my PC soon until I upgrade to a bigger SD card....gotta get rid of 8GB card as with this phone I know I will want more space!!!

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[Q] Just rooted HTC Incredible, have a few questions.

Hello! I've had my HTC Incredible for a few months now, and only just decided to root my phone to the unrevoked3 method for root access.
I did this primarily because I'd like to overclock my phone to run faster, and I'd like to wirelessly tether it without paying any fees to Verizon.
My first question is -- what are the best ways to do that? I know there's a Wireless Tether for Rooted Users app, but I want to make sure I download the right one that won't get me charged by Verizon later down the road. Also, what is the best app for overclocking my Incredible?
I have a few other questions related to rooting my Incredible:
- How exactly does the root work with the SD card? It doesn't recognize it, so I'm assuming it think it is a part of the internal phone memory. Is there a way to see how much space I have left on it at all?
- After rooting, I lost a few apps and have had to re-download them. However, there are some apps that I can't, primarily those from the Amazon AppStore. How do I retreive those?
- Is there some sort of back-up software I can use to prevent the loss of apps in the future?
- What ROMs does everyone recommend I get? I've been looking at CM7, but you guys would know better -- any suggestions? EDIT: I do fancy Sense, but I'd be more than willing to replace it if something came along that looks even remotely good. I'm not that attached to it.
Thanks!
Search for "Wireless Tether" the top result is the one ya want... Has most downloads.
Put sd card reader in computer and copy any files to puter, then format in fat32. Now put apps back on card and put in phone. Apps should be back and you should see it now.
Dont mess with roms myself....
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ejsholly said:
Hello! I've had my HTC Incredible for a few months now, and only just decided to root my phone to the unrevoked3 method for root access.
I did this primarily because I'd like to overclock my phone to run faster, and I'd like to wirelessly tether it without paying any fees to Verizon.
My first question is -- what are the best ways to do that? I know there's a Wireless Tether for Rooted Users app, but I want to make sure I download the right one that won't get me charged by Verizon later down the road. Also, what is the best app for overclocking my Incredible?
I have a few other questions related to rooting my Incredible:
- How exactly does the root work with the SD card? It doesn't recognize it, so I'm assuming it think it is a part of the internal phone memory. Is there a way to see how much space I have left on it at all?
- After rooting, I lost a few apps and have had to re-download them. However, there are some apps that I can't, primarily those from the Amazon AppStore. How do I retreive those?
- Is there some sort of back-up software I can use to prevent the loss of apps in the future?
- What ROMs does everyone recommend I get? I've been looking at CM7, but you guys would know better -- any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Nils business sense z. Kernel built in will oc, very stable for me at 1.114 , also has wireless tether an wifi hotspot built in. Its a great rom.
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Titanium Backup will backup and restore all user installed apps. To restore apps from the Amazon market, it should be as simple as installing it and then re-downloading the apps in "My Apps".
As for ROMs, I'm fond of MIUI which is based on CM7 (I believe) and influenced by iOS. It is AOSP, but has its own unique lockscreen and app management. I've been running it since Nov. 2010 so I can't help you out any further. MIUI also has built in usb tether and hotspot, but I've never messed with either. Might mention if you are a fan of Sense or not for others to comment.
From what Ive seen overclocking doesnt offer much for our phones, only in the range of about 150-200 MHz which isn't really noticeable, but if you wanna do it knock yourself out!
As for ROMs I'd suggest Incredibly Re-engineered.
ejsholly said:
Hello! I've had my HTC Incredible for a few months now, and only just decided to root my phone to the unrevoked3 method for root access.
I did this primarily because I'd like to overclock my phone to run faster, and I'd like to wirelessly tether it without paying any fees to Verizon.
My first question is -- what are the best ways to do that? I know there's a Wireless Tether for Rooted Users app, but I want to make sure I download the right one that won't get me charged by Verizon later down the road. Also, what is the best app for overclocking my Incredible?
I have a few other questions related to rooting my Incredible:
- How exactly does the root work with the SD card? It doesn't recognize it, so I'm assuming it think it is a part of the internal phone memory. Is there a way to see how much space I have left on it at all?
- After rooting, I lost a few apps and have had to re-download them. However, there are some apps that I can't, primarily those from the Amazon AppStore. How do I retreive those?
- Is there some sort of back-up software I can use to prevent the loss of apps in the future?
- What ROMs does everyone recommend I get? I've been looking at CM7, but you guys would know better -- any suggestions? EDIT: I do fancy Sense, but I'd be more than willing to replace it if something came along that looks even remotely good. I'm not that attached to it.
Thanks!
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Give carbonite fusion v.5 a try, been very reliable and stable, some Roms you will run into random reboots but I can't say its happened yet with this Rom, I liked the stock kernal in this Rom but I liked seeing the higher number so I use a ziggy kernal overclocked to 1.229.
I'll give a random testimonial. Check out warm z twopointtwo Nightlies......they're very stable and do not have any problems. The look and feel of the UI is revamped to reflect the look of Android 2.3 and it uses sense 2.0 which allows for dock theming and more customizability......it comes with ziggys kernel preinstalled which has a different scheduler which helps your phone run smoother and slightly faster......all in all a great Rom
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In regards to Titanium Backup, you will need to d/l the app, and then buy the Pro version in the market. Costs a few bucks, but gives you access to all of the features. best part is that it puts the pro key on your SD card, so no matter what ROM you d/l, your first stop should be the market to re-d/l Titanium. it will see the pro key, and like that you can restore nearly every app. you backed up.
BTW, I'm a huge fan of Redemptive rEVOlution, killer ROM that is fast, stable, and gives great batt life.
I have a quick root noob question. If I get caught in a boot loop. When I go into recovery to upload a backup do I need to wipe data/cache/dalvik or just hit restore? If I restore I don't have to go through the setup process again do I?
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Always a good idea to wipe when flashing nearly everything. When you restore a backup, you do not need to do the setup again, even if you wipe first. You will go back to EXACTLY the state it was in when you backed it up.
Thanks. I want to try an app again that might have put me in a boot loop. Does anyone know if jrummy16 root tools or anim mod would work with nilsP business z Rom
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[Q] nandroid & radio questions

Hi,
Apparently I have to rack up 10 posts before I can post a reply to ianmcquin's Visionary/gfree thread (THANK YOU, that was SO easy!). So I thought I'd ask a few questions. I'm sure it's been answered somewhere but searching has been kind of pathetic. And I need the posts anyway. I managed to get this far with the help of XDA. I figured this would be the best place to start asking questions.
I've rooted my G2 and flashed a couple of Cyanogen roms with clockwork. I'm now switching between stock Froyo and CM 7.0.3. I've done a few nandroid backups and played with Titanium a little.
What exactly does a nandroid backup backup? I know it doesn't do the SD card, although I think it will do the App2SD part if you have any apps moved to your SD card. I assume the radio gets backed up and restored, what about the recovery and the bootloader?
Is there really that much difference between flashing a radio zip and using fastboot to install an img file? Does a radio really make much difference for GPS, WIFI or bluetooth; or are they completely unrelated?
I guess that's enough for now. Thanks to everyone here for sharing your experience.
-LDB
A nandroid does a full system back, so it backs up your rom, apps and settings exactly as they are. so if you were to flash a new rom and you didn't like it you can restore your nandroid and your phone would be back exactly the way it was before you did the Nandroid.
The safest way to flash radios is using fastboot from your pc. But I always use the PC10IMG.zip method and have never had any problems. Just be careful and read the instructions. But the general rule of thumb is don't change your radio unless you are having wifi/signal problems.
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What did you do with your original rom? Did you back it up with recovery? If so that's a nandroid.
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Hey guys,
@ cj: I'll throw some thanks your way because there was some useful info in there (at least after the edit).
@ spas: I have an analogy for you: You're driving around downtown San Francisco and you stop to ask me where the Golden Gate Bridge is. Are you going to thank me when I answer 'In San Francisco'?
Sorry if I seem like an A55 but your questions were answered in my original post and I thought I made it pretty obvious that I know what a nandroid backup is. These kind of answers are what make searching a PITA. You spend a bunch of time constructing a detailed search and somewhere in the first five pages is a bit of wisdom. Problem is your likely to give up before you can get through all the crap! Don't take it personally. It's a pet peeve of mine, I have issues!
a nandroid backup will back up the following items:
-boot image
-recovery image
-/system partition (in its entirity, settings/app data included)
-/data partition (in its entirity, settings/app data included)
-/cache partition
-sd-ext in the event that you have configured a2sd (which, on a side note, is entirely useless on the vision as far as I'm concerned)
it does not back up:
-radio
-hboot/bootloader
when restoring a nandroid backup, your phone, with the exception of the radio and hboot you have installed at the time of the restore, will revert to the exact state it was at when you created the backup.
if you've rooted recently, you probably have engineering hboot and can therefore utilize fastboot to flash radio images (and whatever else). to be honest, I find the PC10IMG.zip update method to be easier, but that's just me... either method takes only a few steps and is [for the most part, assuming you check md5sums and don't do anything silly] very safe to perform.
as cj stated, however, unless there is a specific need, there's no reason to flash a new radio. it's a combination of mishaps that can cause things like gps and wifi to break, and it's usually rom-related.. in my experience, a change in radio is a more common remedy for fixing battery drain issues [read: reception issues, ie switching between network architectures too often] than anything else.
hope that helps.
Yea you do seem like and ass..ASS. sorry I didn't follow your rules for answering your question which google could of done for you had you of actually tried.
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Wow,
Thanks for taking the time to post such a complete answer. I was thinking about flashing a radio just to find out if it stuck. I knew someone here could answer my question though.
Why do you think a2sd is useless, if you don't mind elaborating?
Thanks again, I'll be clicking the button in a second.
-LDB
spas,
Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I probably could have been nicer about it, like I said: I have issues. And lets face it, if I seem like one I probably am one.
Only six more to go, I guess I owe you something.
-LDB
why I think a2sd is useless for vision (and not just vision, almost all of the new mid to high end devices coming out):
the three biggest "advantages" (increased storage space for apps, and swap/compcache for freeing up more ram) of a2sd are no longer advantageous...
-we have plenty of internal storage now. people are creating 1024mb ext partitions on phones that already have at least 1024mb of internal storage... to this, I say:
-swap/compcache, in my experience and I imagine for most everyone, are unnecessary on devices with > 512mb ram. it's going to be pretty hard to consume that much ram on a phone unless you are specifically trying to. if anything, the additional cpu resources needed to make compcache happen and the additional steps of moving data to and from external storage for swap will slow your phone down, not speed it up.
the only thing a2sd has going for it anymore is the fact that apps/settings are retained from rom to rom. even this can be problematic depending on how often you are switching roms and whether or not you are switching between different flavors (ie sense and aosp) of roms. of course, there are less confusing and less problem-breeding ways to back up apps and settings.
I am pretty sure the vast majority of a2sd users are just using it because they used to do it with their phones before we started getting more adequate hardware and don't know any better... that and it's one more thing to "brag" about to your nerd buddies (of course, if your nerd buddies have any idea what they're talking about, they'll just think you're dumb for setting up one more thing that can break for, literally, no good reason).
this is all my humble opinion and if a2sd is something you want to set up, by all means, be my guest! just seems like more work for nothing at this point if you ask me.
Thanks again pmcqueen,
It's not something I've looked into, but the people in the market seem to make a big deal out of it. I'm having a hard enough time finding decent apps that don't need ridiculous permissions. I sincerely doubt I'll ever need the extra space, but it's always good to have extra information.
Have a good weekend,
LDB

[Q] Worth rooting just for battery life?

Hey guys I've had my Dinc for a while and I love it but the one thing I can't stand is the battery life. I listen to FM radio and a ton of podcasts at work all day and rarely get home with over 30% on a good day, not to mention the numerous phone calls and internet browsing. I've looked into rooting and am admittedly scared to do so, not because I am incapable I just hate to have anything that is less than perfectly stable.
After looking into all of the benefits of rooting, none of them mean much of anything to me, to be honest. The only thing that is causing me to want to root is an improved battery performance. My question is, do you think that it is worth rooting simply for an improved battery life alone? Is it really that significant? Also, I read early on in my Dinc days that there were ways of avoiding the whole "turn phone off to charge completely to 100% thing" by rooting, is that true as well? Thanks!
You can run a custom kernel with SBC to charge to "real" 100%. Many custom kernels will get you significantly better battery life than stock; you also may want to look into using undervolts and underclocks. Personally, I use MIUI latest with the included kernel, and it lasts me for about 2 days of medium use on my Seidio 1750 extended battery. Not that big of a difference in battery size from stock, but the battery life using the MIUI kernel with it is much better than the stock kernel on the same battery. Also, you will get a lot of new features no matter which ROM you try, and some it will become hard to live without. At the moment, I'd recommend CyanogenMod7 Stable Release for you, as it has working FM Radio and many excellent kernels, as well as the performance increases that Android 2.3 Gingerbread brings. I recommend in the way of kernels Tiamat or Chad's incredikernel. Both are much better than even the stock kernel from CM7 on battery life. Every device reacts a bit differently to kernels, so find one best for you. However, then there are the different types of ROMs. There are 3 basic types of ROMs in regards to kernels: Sense, GingerSense, and AOSP. Sense is what you have now most likely; it's a ROM with HTC's Sense interface running on top of Android 2.2 Froyo. There are many options for Sense kernels, and I highly recommend ziggy471's beta kernels and HeyItsLou's #8, #9, and #4. All have worked out well for me in the past. THe second, GingerSense, has no custom kernels out because HTC hasn't released the source code for it yet. When HTC releases it, there will be a flood of GingerSense kernels, and GingerSense ROMs are currently some of the most feature-packed. The third category, AOSP, has many different ROMs in it. It ranges from bone-stock Android 2.3 of OMGB to the custom Gingerbread of the aforementioned CM7 and OMFGB to the iPhone-yness of MIUI to the.... different experience that the Acer LiquidMetal ports offer. There are many kernels available for AOSP, and I recommend those I mentioned above. Also, the stock AOSP kernels are generally quite good. I find AOSP to be easiest on battery; as always, YMMV. In answer to your main question, yes. It really is that significant. We are always glad to add another member to the DInc XDA community. Find what works best for you, and have fun!
EDIT: wow, I just looked at this post, it's really long
thekidkid32 said:
Hey guys I've had my Dinc for a while and I love it but the one thing I can't stand is the battery life. I listen to FM radio and a ton of podcasts at work all day and rarely get home with over 30% on a good day, not to mention the numerous phone calls and internet browsing. I've looked into rooting and am admittedly scared to do so, not because I am incapable I just hate to have anything that is less than perfectly stable.
After looking into all of the benefits of rooting, none of them mean much of anything to me, to be honest. The only thing that is causing me to want to root is an improved battery performance. My question is, do you think that it is worth rooting simply for an improved battery life alone? Is it really that significant? Also, I read early on in my Dinc days that there were ways of avoiding the whole "turn phone off to charge completely to 100% thing" by rooting, is that true as well? Thanks!
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Alright, I think you misunderstand rooting.
All rooting your phone will do will change the boot-loader to S-OFF, which will give you the option of flashing .zip files to your phone. It will also, however, give you complete control of your device. (Overclocking, TIbackup, Removing bloatware, etc.)
The ROM that came with your phone will still be there though. This will not change the stability of your device in any way. Just make sure to follow directions EXACTLY.
If you wanted improved battery life, you will have to go into the custom recovery accessible from the boot-loader, which will allow you to flash a new ROM.
So to answer your question, just rooting your phone will not necessarily improve your phones battery life, actually more likely not. You would have to flash custom ROMs. But to be honest, a lot of them are wayy more stable then stock INC. My buddy has one, and always texts me cause it messes up.
Anyways, good day
You can also root the phone and use custom kernels on the stock rom. Don't necessarily need to be running a different rom to increase battery life.
Awesome thanks a lot for your help guys! I have a couple of other noob questions before I go for it,
First off, would it be too much to ask to have everything setup and working well in the next two nights? I'm going to be going on vacation and only have tonight and tomorrow to get it all set. I jailbroke an ipod once and I remember having a problem and having to plug it into a computer and it was fixed no prob, but I won't have that option now. Would I be wise to wait until after vacation or should everything go smoothly as long I follow directions?
Also, I've looked all around, and I don't see how you guys go about backing everything up before you root. I see apps to backup a rooted phone before flashing a new ROM or something, but not beforehand. I want all of my apps and settings on my newly rooted phone quickly and easily. Possible? Thanks again!
thekidkid32 said:
Awesome thanks a lot for your help guys! I have a couple of other noob questions before I go for it,
First off, would it be too much to ask to have everything setup and working well in the next two nights? I'm going to be going on vacation and only have tonight and tomorrow to get it all set. I jailbroke an ipod once and I remember having a problem and having to plug it into a computer and it was fixed no prob, but I won't have that option now. Would I be wise to wait until after vacation or should everything go smoothly as long I follow directions?
Also, I've looked all around, and I don't see how you guys go about backing everything up before you root. I see apps to backup a rooted phone before flashing a new ROM or something, but not beforehand. I want all of my apps and settings on my newly rooted phone quickly and easily. Possible? Thanks again!
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well when you root it doesnt reset everything you still have all your apps etc...what we do is backup everything after the root process is finished go into recovery and do a nandroid backup of you stock setup just in case and everyhting should go smoothly following directions
On Another Note: as long as youre rooting might as well try out my rom Kingdom Rewind 3D if you have any more questions on rooting just ask
cvbcbcmv said:
Here is what I recommend you do. Root by following a video on youtube from applepwns. (it's not me, but that's what I followed and it's very good) make sure you watch his newer video, he has 2, his newer one is better. Rooting will not delete any data. Then, I would download rom manager and buy rom manager pro, and download and install skyraider sense 4.2, a rom very identical to stock, so it will be easy to use, and very stable. Rom manager will do it all for you, just select both wiping options. Also, backup your rom (rom manager asks this after the rom has been downloaded) it will make it so that at any time you can restore back to what you have exactly how it is with apps and everything how it was how you left it. I would also recommend installing incredikernel, you can get the sense version from incredikernel.com. You flash that in recovery. (update your recovery in rom manager, turn off your phone, hold down power button and volume down and when your in hboot scroll down to recovery and go into it, then go to chose zip from sd card, and install it, then reboot. put the incredikernel on the root of your sd card, and don't unzip it, keep the zip zipped) and as for backing up apps, it's very possible. Buy an app called titanium backup pro (you need the free version downloaded as well) and hit menu, batch, backup all apps and data, and hit run (there are also youtube videos on this, just search) and it will put the backups on your SD card (don't backup system data) then after you install the new rom, install the app again, and hit batch, restore apps and data. If you have your google account synced with your phone then your contacts are on it and will automatically be put back on. This can be done in 2 days, it can be done in a few hours. PM me for any questions, I'm happy to help
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1 thing to add to that, I use MyBackup Root instead of Titanium because MyBackup Root is basically the full MyBackup Pro for free, and it can not only back up apps+data, but also photos, contacts, SMS/MMS, bookmarks, music playlists, etc. and you don't have to pay for it to get automated restores (with Titanium free you have to manually install each application once the restore starts.)
I was in a similar situation when trying to decide whether or not to root my DInc. My primary motivation was to remove the bloat, which did help a bit with battery life merely because there were fewer apps for Sense to load up in the background.
I then started trying different Sense kernels because I couldn't find much information out there about which ones were better than others. I felt strongly enough about this I started a thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107423
I was able to squeeze a few more hours out of my phone using my top rated kernel, with results declining slowly in the lower ranks.
I say: GO FOR IT!
Once you get started, you may find yourself pushing farther into the guts of Android to get your phone working the way you want it to. But even stopping at rooting just to change kernels will get you what you are looking for. Adding a Seidio 1750 mAh battery could help add up to another few hours.
Good luck and keep us posted.
PGleo86 said:
1 thing to add to that, I use MyBackup Root instead of Titanium because MyBackup Root is basically the full MyBackup Pro for free, and it can not only back up apps+data, but also photos, contacts, SMS/MMS, bookmarks, music playlists, etc. and you don't have to pay for it to get automated restores (with Titanium free you have to manually install each application once the restore starts.)
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Thanks right, you can use MyBackup Root for APK+Data+Market Link + 0-click batch RESTORE for Free. It also allows you to schedule and have as many backups as you would like locally, for free.
liteon163 said:
I was in a similar situation when trying to decide whether or not to root my DInc. My primary motivation was to remove the bloat, which did help a bit with battery life merely because there were fewer apps for Sense to load up in the background.
I then started trying different Sense kernels because I couldn't find much information out there about which ones were better than others. I felt strongly enough about this I started a thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107423
I was able to squeeze a few more hours out of my phone using my top rated kernel, with results declining slowly in the lower ranks.
I say: GO FOR IT!
Once you get started, you may find yourself pushing farther into the guts of Android to get your phone working the way you want it to. But even stopping at rooting just to change kernels will get you what you are looking for. Adding a Seidio 1750 mAh battery could help add up to another few hours.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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I'm keeping up with that thread, it's pretty good
You should definitely take a look, OP.

Questions on best practice and most stable ROMS

So far I have always been running rooted stock ROMS. From what I read they tent to be very stable, the battery last longer, and do not lose some features (4G, HDMI) etc.
However lately, probably because of the apps I have installed, the phone is pretty slow, the memory on the phone is running out and does not work properly.
It is time for a complete wipe. However I am not the kind the person that change rom once a week. I would like something for the long term.
I have a few questions (feel free to answer to a subset of them):
1) I can I maximize the free space on the phone? On stock you can update a stock app (ex flash, acrobat reader, etc) but you cannot uninstalled. I was wondering if after the update, I have now the app taking twice as much space that is supposed to.
2) What is the best way to backup all the apps on the phone and restore them quickly, being able to chose what and what not? I am using Titanium Backup but it is not clear what is an installed app and what is system app. How do I guarantee that I do not lose the app data? I am trying to find a way that once I update the ROM I can configure/restore the apps that I want without having to spend hours on it. What I am afraid is to install/restore something that it is not going to work but it takes spaces on the phone. One of the thing I really want to keep is the email configuration (3 gmails account, 1 hotmail and the link with Facebook accounts).
3) I am using App 2 SD Free but there are some large apps that cannot be moved on the SD (gmail, facebook, qik, flash, maps, twitter, Google Music, G+, etc). Does any work around exist to save precious space on the phone?
4) Regarding stability, not bloated, and full features available on OTA (4G, Bluetooth, HDMI, etc) What is the best ROM? I was looking into Fresh Evo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20101297), Swagged Out (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258932), Sprint Updated 2.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321340), Clean Rom 1.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351890). I am leaning toward Fresh Evo because the author have been updating for a long time). Any suggestions?
Best,
Camicia
Camicia said:
So far I have always been running rooted stock ROMS. From what I read they tent to be very stable, the battery last longer, and do not lose some features (4G, HDMI) etc.
However lately, probably because of the apps I have installed, the phone is pretty slow, the memory on the phone is running out and does not work properly.
It is time for a complete wipe. However I am not the kind the person that change rom once a week. I would like something for the long term.
I have a few questions (feel free to answer to a subset of them):
1) I can I maximize the free space on the phone? On stock you can update a stock app (ex flash, acrobat reader, etc) but you cannot uninstalled. I was wondering if after the update, I have now the app taking twice as much space that is supposed to.
Use A2SD, in terminal type:
SU
a2sd cachesd
Moves your Dalvik Cache to the SD Card. Free'd up about 200+MB on mine
2) What is the best way to backup all the apps on the phone and restore them quickly, being able to chose what and what not? I am using Titanium Backup but it is not clear what is an installed app and what is system app. How do I guarantee that I do not lose the app data? I am trying to find a way that once I update the ROM I can configure/restore the apps that I want without having to spend hours on it. What I am afraid is to install/restore something that it is not going to work but it takes spaces on the phone. One of the thing I really want to keep is the email configuration (3 gmails account, 1 hotmail and the link with Facebook accounts).
It's actually very easy to tell which are user apps with TB. They're the ones in white text
3) I am using App 2 SD Free but there are some large apps that cannot be moved on the SD (gmail, facebook, qik, flash, maps, twitter, Google Music, G+, etc). Does any work around exist to save precious space on the phone?
4) Regarding stability, not bloated, and full features available on OTA (4G, Bluetooth, HDMI, etc) What is the best ROM? I was looking into Fresh Evo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20101297), Swagged Out (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258932), Sprint Updated 2.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321340), Clean Rom 1.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351890). I am leaning toward Fresh Evo because the author have been updating for a long time). Any suggestions?
MIUI, as long as you don't need 4G, everything else works and it's extremely stable. Other than a few times trying other ROMs, I've been using it as a Daily since June
Best,
Camicia
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Thank you for your answers. I have some follow up questions:
1)
Use A2SD, in terminal type:
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a2sd cachesd
Moves your Dalvik Cache to the SD Card. Free'd up about 200+MB on mine
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What is the quickest way to use terminal? Do I need the dev tools on my computer and put the phone in debug mode?
Where is the Dalvik Cache normally stored? I thought it was on RAM. Since it is a cache, I would expect that it changes often. Is it not going to wear out the sd card quickly?
2) The point is that I want to save also some system settings (ex: remembered password of wifis, browser history, sync settings, etc). Last backup save 203 items. It is going to be a pain to go thought one by one.
4) I looked at MIUI but I ruled it out because it does not support 4G. I use it every now and then.
Like you I was having some problems with my rooted stock (low phone memory, slow and some other performance issues).
I downloaded ROM Manager and then made a backup of my rooted stock. You can also do it manually by booting into recovery but ROM Manager is easier though some people will say is more prone to errors. Also download Titanium Backup or something similar and save all of the apps (both download and system apps).
Once I backed up my rooted stock ROM I then downloaded and installed the latest Cyanogenmod. As this does not have HTC Sense or bloatware I immediately got a significant amount of free space that handles all that I load.
One thing with Cyanogenmod 7.1, some people like myself will have freezing issues if you have less than 130 MB of free space on the phone. This is not a problem for me as I have more than that available. I chose Cyanogoenmod ROM over MIUI ROM as Cyanogenmod allows for 4G. Take a look though at all of the ROMs out there and decide for yourself.
I find that everything is running faster now and I no longer have the Bloat that Sprint put on the phone. You can also move more apps over to the SD Card freeing up more internal memory.
Apps like Flash and Adobe Reader can be downloaded from the Market and are updated just like any other app.
Good luck
Uhh, no to ROM Manager. It's known to cause problems.
The Terminal is an app. You use it on your phone.
AS for system settings, only a very few can be successfully moved from ROM to ROM. The only thing I backup is my Alarms. You don't have to do them one at a time, you know. Hit Menu, Batch and then you can do them en masse
Depending on how many apps you load on your phone you may want to re-partition your SD card if you have the space and create a 1-2 gig ext2 or ext3 partition to use for apps2sd. The main reason I rooted my EVO was because I constantly kept running out of space on my phone. I'm an app addict though and have been known to have up to 200+ apps on my phone before I re-flash it with another rom. With a 1.5 gig partition and apps2d, I have never run out of space for apps on my phone though If you do decide to re-partition your SD card you will need to completely backup your SD card to your PC first as it will wipe all data on the card. I have a 16 gig class 10card in my EVO and the speed is pretty good.
i would give energy sensation a go, i was using that rom as my daily it is really staple, great battery life and improves the video recording to 1080p HD as well as plenty of other little tweaks here and there....I am running ics-decks-pre-alpha7 which i am really liking only thing is you would have to be willing to give up your camera til a stable alpha or beta is released. I hope this helps...
I have been running the Sprint Updated 2.0 Final for a few weeks (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20631581 ). I also re-partition my SD card with 1.5Gb (if I remember well). So far everything is good except:
1) I have 99Mb free on the phone. I think the main reason is that I disinstall some of the Sprint Bloatware and haven't reinstall all the apps. However I started having problems when I had 60Mb available before the upgrade to this new ROM. So I am afraid that I am getting close :-/
2) Wifi Tether has problems. I am experience the problem here: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1288 .
The workaround with Barnacle alleviate the problem but beside being annoying that I have to start Bernacle first and then the Wi-Fi tether, it sometimes stop working (I think it is when I I use the 4G and the 4g connection is lost) and I have to go though the cycle again :-/
Best,
Camicia
Best ROM is probably team nocturnal's shooter, but everyone likes different stuff.
I sure my backup root to back up and restore apps
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I use my backup root I meant lol
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I think that one ROM that's 2.3.7 but they managed to get the ics launcher on it. My ***** runs it, so I forgot the name. Sorry I use a ns4g
Edit: it's by chadthegreat.
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Your *****?? nice.... <sarcasm>
Yes my *****. Because I think I could do better.
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Your *****?? nice.... <sarcasm>
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Im on Mikg v3.0 w. Less freedom kernel and its extremely stable smooth and complete im not sure if it has 4g (im on metro so only got 3g) i do reflash like crazy but this ROM has me pretty satisfied i havent flashed in a while u might lose a thing or two but nothing u cant live w. Out.
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If u want AOSP evo-deck-(gingerbread 2.3.7) only takes up 13mb of internal on initial boot 19mb after flashing gapps and its really stable too u might have to fix gps but thats the only issue i ran into (which is just a flashable zip if you do have to) and you can move the majority of apps to sd like CM it has a allow move to external option.
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[Q] When flashing nightlies...

I haven't quite hit 10 posts yet so I still can't post in what I consider to be the proper forums, so hopefully somebody here can help me out. I have a (probably stupid) question regarding nightlies. I'm currently running a ROM with KToonsez's kernel and it kicks ass! Don't know how these geniuses do it, but I get about 30 hrs battery life per charge while permanently overclocked to max frequency and undervolted by roughly 40 mV (granted I don't really spend a ton of time on my phone, but even with moderate-excessive use, I get at least 24 hours, which is just...wow). Anyway, I use a custom launcher (GO Launcher), which I happen to like, mainly because I can add apps to folders by simply selecting them rather than long-pressing, waiting, dragging them somewhere, etc. but obviously when I upgrade a nightly, it's not quite so easy. My layout file can restore my folders and apps for the most part, but I often find that it fails to load several apps and just has an Android "loading" icon, that I basically have to delete and "re-add" the proper app. Anyway, this is basically a long-winded way of asking the following (and please keep in mind that ROM development is not my strong suit): is it possible to incrementally update a ROM to a newer version without having to recreate my various accounts (gmail, facebook, etc.)? I use Rom Toolbox to back up my apps and data, but to support the developers, I also bought System Tuner Pro and Titanium Backup. I've yet to figure out which is the best, if any, and why. I could be wrong, but I'd imagine that many of the changes between nightlies are to files that don't directly interact with apps so I don't see why the idea of incremental updates would be out-of-reach, but if it is, please correct me and, if possible, explain why my dream for upgrading ROMs is intangible. Thanks in advance! I've never received bad or negatively-critical feedback for my questions, and for that I thank all of you!
You're talking about dirty flashing. And I do it 30 times a month. Just flash the new nightly over the old one. Wipe cache/dalvik and you're good to go.
Just remember, if you dirty flash you do have the chance of running into unforeseen bugs and weird force close or laggy response time as examples.
If the changes made to the nightly aren't major reworks of anything core system related you could be just fine. Many dev threads will say no help to you if you dirty flash.
See if your rom has a commit page you could look at that shows what was merged, it may help guide you to do dirty flash or full wipe.
As a long time Go Launcher user I can honestly say Titanium Backup is by far the best way to go as far as restoring your UI back to the way it was. Only in certain circumstances you would have to replace your widgets but usually the data to those widgets are still saved.
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