Lag is typically a result of Android working really hard to do all the things you want at the same time. You may be right that an application may be hogging the CPU or even the RAM. Try to keep the number of applications/processes you do to a minimum (e.g load a web page, while sending an email, while opening contacts, etc.).
If you want to attempt to resolve the problem let's first assume that it's an application that's causing the problem.
Go to Settings (from Home Screen) --> about phone --> and check to see if any applications are on the list. If the application has a decent amount of battery usage from it (>5%) you may want to investigate the app further.
Then go to Applications (from settings) --> running services. This will let you know what apps have been stored in memory (RAM) and how much space they're taking up. When an application takes up more RAM then it should, it can cause our phone to work harder to get rid of apps not in use (this is how Android multi-tasks).
Ok let's assume this isn't an apps fault it may be time to clean your system cache. Have you ever noticed when you get a new computer, it's super fast, but as the years go on, your PC gets slower and slower. Sometimes things get stored in a cache which can slow down the system. To clear the cache on your android all you have to do is reset your phone to factory defaults. WARNING THIS WILL DELETE ALL OF YOUR APPLICATIONS you can of course re-download them, however it's not guaranteed that any of the information you have saved in the apps will persist. Anything saved on your SD card will remain unaffected.
Once you get everything downloaded and back to normal, you should notice your phone is pretty zippy again. However reseting your phone can be a pain and should only be done if you really can't pinpoint an application(s) that is responsible.
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Lag is typically a result of Android working really hard to do all the things you want at the same time. You may be right that an application may be hogging the CPU or even the RAM. Try to keep the number of applications/processes you do to a minimum (e.g load a web page, while sending an email, while opening contacts, etc.).
If you want to attempt to resolve the problem let's first assume that it's an application that's causing the problem.
Go to Settings (from Home Screen) --> about phone --> and check to see if any applications are on the list. If the application has a decent amount of battery usage from it (>5%) you may want to investigate the app further.
Then go to Applications (from settings) --> running services. This will let you know what apps have been stored in memory (RAM) and how much space they're taking up. When an application takes up more RAM then it should, it can cause our phone to work harder to get rid of apps not in use (this is how Android multi-tasks).
Ok let's assume this isn't an apps fault it may be time to clean your system cache. Have you ever noticed when you get a new computer, it's super fast, but as the years go on, your PC gets slower and slower. Sometimes things get stored in a cache which can slow down the system. To clear the cache on your android all you have to do is reset your phone to factory defaults. WARNING THIS WILL DELETE ALL OF YOUR APPLICATIONS you can of course re-download them, however it's not guaranteed that any of the information you have saved in the apps will persist. Anything saved on your SD card will remain unaffected.
Once you get everything downloaded and back to normal, you should notice your phone is pretty zippy again. However reseting your phone can be a pain and should only be done if you really can't pinpoint an application(s) that is responsible.
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This is wrong my friend, you can clear cache from recovery and it does nothing to apps installed. No need to wipe phone.
Yep iv`e just cleared /system, /boot, cleared cache and Dalvik cache, flashed AIO 3.0.4 and all my apps are still there.
I do find stopping certain apps (which i rarely use) after boot does help a tad...
Install Custom ROM ipdate without full wipe?
MattchuR said:
Yep iv`e just cleared /system, /boot, cleared cache and Dalvik cache, flashed AIO 3.0.4 and all my apps are still there.
I do find stopping certain apps (which i rarely use) after boot does help a tad...
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Can u do that from Runnymede by sabastien15 AIO 2.2? i wanna go for the3.10.4 but i dont have the breath for all the contact/settings/app installing crap now
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Can u do that from Runnymede by sabastien15 AIO 2.2? i wanna go for the3.10.4 but i dont have the breath for all the contact/settings/app installing crap now
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No.
When you go from 2.x to 3.x you need to perform a full wipe. Just system cache and dalvik cache is not good enough.
You can, however, sync your phone with google, make a titanium backup, use the app backup/restore scripts from InsertCoin (search for them) before and after flashing the new ROM, in order to minimize the amount of setup you have to do afterwards.
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I decided to try my first custom ROM... (installing virtous) and have a few questions/issues:
1) I started with a Nandroid backup.
2) I did a full titanium backup
3) I used ROM manager to install Virtous (did a full system swipe)...
Ok.. here is where I am having my issues
After the install, I went back to the marketplace and installed titanium backup.
What option should I restore? I would like to get all the widgets and data restored. I tried restore all apps+system data but I am wondering if that is reinstalling the bloatware that virtous removed. If so, what are the correct options in Titanium backup I should use?
Next, I tried to reinstall everything but I got that dreaded low on storage and then out of storage space error. My phone has lots of storage both internal and on the SD card - so the restore (I am guessing) failed at some indeterminate point. Most of my widgets were not loading properly (beautiful widget, pure calendar, multi-icon etc) after the attempted restore.
Regardless, even if I clean-up the widgets, the low memory message persisted so I was left with no choice but to revert to my previous nandroid backup .
So... how do you install a custom rom and easily reestablish your previous state/settings without getting the low/ out of storage warning?
Also, one of my goals is to get a deodexed rom so I can install custom themes (e.g., battery mods, etc). Can I just flash the deodexed stock rom over my current rom (I did not understand deodexed when I first upgraded to froyo) without having to do a swipe? Will I run into any issues?
Thanks
I tried again with less apps/ data and still have no luck.
I did a restore all apps and system data from titanium, got a low storage than out of storage error (the phone has over 60% of its storage available so I know I am nowhere near close to actually using all the storage).
When titanium completed, most apps forced close (gmail, rom manager, etc) so I assume the storage error is impacting the restore.
Back to my nandroid backup again.
If I am running stock Froyo, can I just flash a new sense based froyo without wiping? (trying to find a way to experiment and really want to get a deodexed rom installed)
When new ROM is flashed, in TB, try reinstalling only user apps, not system apps.
Why?
The new ROM you flash and the ROM you are coming from should both have system apps already in them, so why reinstall system apps from the old ROM that most likely exist in the new ROM?
But how do I reestablish the previous settings? Or do I have to reconfigure all my accounts, etc each time I install a new rom.
Thanks
Me too. How to correct?
uncommon 1.1 on my phone is doing same thing. 1.0 had no problem.
Just a theory as I haven't tried to install another ROM...
I noticed the touchdown data file on my phone was quite big (>70mb) - it appears that when touchdown's data file gets very large, the message appears more often (looks likes there is a bug in Android with large data-sets). I cleared touchdown's data and resynced which shrunk the data file to ~12mb. I reinstalled all the apps I removed to try and eliminate the memory error and so far have been running smoothly.
When I have some time, I am going to try another ROM and see if I can restore without any storage issues. I still am curious how everyone resets their settings from ROM to ROM (or do they manually configure everything each time)
After poking around in astro file manager, contacts(cross-linked mess), and uninstalling some rarely used programs all to no avail......
I fixed my "low on program memory" notification by emptying my deleted items in the mail app- a hotmail account that is rarely used.
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But how do I reestablish the previous settings? Or do I have to reconfigure all my accounts, etc each time I install a new rom.
Thanks
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To be on the safe side, just reinstall only apps, with or without data. There is no real point in wiping days, and yet reinstalling system apps and data. Kind of defeats the purpose. And yes, manually add accounts. Takes more time, but minimizes conflicts. Shouldn't take more than 30 minutes, which is a small price to pay to eliminate potential headaches.
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I've run into this as well. In fact it was the original reason I decided to move forward with rooting my phone since I had to wipe it anyway. Has anyone looked into what program monitors this and flags the error? Is memory not being reported correctly, or is there a tolerance that maybe we need to tweak in the code somewhere?
Hi,
I was just trying out a few ROMs, and after flashing CyanogenMod (The stable release, can't remember the exact name) and then doing a full wipe and restoring my LeeDroid Nandroid backup, I ran into a bit of a kerfuffle...
After booting up, I was greeted with blank homescreens - which was a bit annoying, but nothing too bad - and so went to get started on repopulating them.. only to find hardly any apps were present. I put this down to some of them not having synced yet, until I noticed that even system apps were missing; Market, Music etc - not a single downloaded/sideloaded app is present. They appear under the "Manage Applications" section of the Settings menu but only Data and Cache are present, not the Application themselves.
I reflashed the Nandroid backup again (and again), and was met with the same, only Astro File Manager had miraculously appeared so I could at least install some apps from my SD Card using that. So after installing the Market and Root Explorer from there, I could see that the System Apps were infact there, but required manual installation. I can't even re-download all of the lost Apps, as even attempting to select one in the Market leads to a force close.
I can effectively do nothing, except use the tiny array of Apps that are actually there, which at least does include Messaging and Phone. Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this, or a partial-solution at least?
Thanks
Ok, just as I finished typing this the Factory Reset finished and everything loaded. It seems everything is working now, but still, I'm just left with System Apps and with no sign of my other apps syncing/downloading.
After the wipe factory reset did you do nandroid install again straight after?
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Yeah, and the same happened again. I tried various nandroids from all sorts of ROMs, and I would just get the same, even restoring the Stock ROM.
That said, the thread may as well be closed, I just went and did everything manually and everything's fine now. It took many hours, but it's in a usable state now.
i expect u will face the same problem soon as long as ur apps list will grow and be installed on ur device, this is a big issue i faced and still experimenting to get the best solution for, but currently the most effective cure is to mount ur sd card to a card reader, and go to the folder android_secure, cut some bunch of files ther(maybe half of them) and past to ur desktop, mount back the sd to ur device, ur phone will bahave normally now, this will work great after ur nandroid backup, when u see it work, try again the previous step and start to add files to android_secure folder from ur desktop, untill the bad behaviors start to occur.
hope this will help
Every time I reboot, the initial start of Sense it FCs.
It does restart and then run normally, but I'm wondering
what is causing the problem?
What might cause a force close on sense at boot time? My environment is
listed in my signature -- I'm also using outlook (virus checker) if it matters.
How can I address it. would reloading / reinstalling my rom (virtuous 3.2)
help ?
Can I save my PIM data and wipe and reload it? I need to preserve calendar
(phone) a phone contacts. I do NOT sync to google. Would My Backup Pro
do for that? Would that save my contact groups?
I was thinking maybe there is something in system data that was crashing sense?
so a reset / rebuild would help?
Thanks
I use my backup pro and it'll sync apps and ddata contacts calanders basically everything but it never worked with dictionary for me. Reloading the rom may help and you can reload it without wiping since its the same rom as before.
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Have you tried fixing permissions in Rom Manager? That might solve your problem. If not I would say backup everything that you want, and then wipe everything and then reinstall the rom.
My guess is something is sitting in Sense data corrupting your sense UI.
Go into Settings > Applications > Running and locate HTC Sense (might be 2) and clear data.
This will cause you to have to redo all your home screens but you will not lose your data and will not have to redo e-mail etc.
I was thinking the same thing
although, would that account for it working the second time it tries to run?
that is, it FCs on initial start. but when it tries to run again, it appears
to work and the home screens come up.
the data is in /data or /data/data right? so if I make a nandroid
backup, I could return to where I am now?
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although, would that account for it working the second time it tries to run?
that is, it FCs on initial start. but when it tries to run again, it appears
to work and the home screens come up.
the data is in /data or /data/data right? so if I make a nandroid
backup, I could return to where I am now?
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Yes, do a nand backup however, the way you clear it is
Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Running > then click on HTC Sense (the larger one) and clear data.
No need to go into /data/ at all
All of a sudden a couple days ago, Gmail on my rooted Incredible (running CM 7.1 and incredikernel) began acting sluggish, syncing poorly, and force closing. Soon thereafter I got a message reading Google Services Framework was not responding, followed by FCs of pretty much every app I tried to open: maps, market, voice, etc.
It happened once before due to an issue with Google Music sync. Turning that off, waiting a day or two, and resuming sync did the trick. This time I'm seeing sync errors with Gmail (on each of the 2 accounts I have set up), Contacts, and Music. All at different times. And nothing seems to solve the problem
I've tried seemingly everything to no avail.
Thus far I've: wiped Dalvik cache, wiped cache, rolled back to an old Nandroid backup, reinstalled CM 7.1, reinstalled GApps, reinstalled GMail app from the market, wiped all data and cache from Gmail/Google Services/Contacts/Contacts Storage/Calendar/Calendar Storage, and ultimately did a full factory reset through Recovery.
After reinstalling CM 7.1 + GApps last night, things seemed to be OK, but I'm back to everything FC'ing today. If I have sync turned off, I can use the phone. But even then, my wifi/radio icons in the status bar are permanently white.
Any ideas? I don't seem to have any corrupt contacts. And setting up a one-time sync of each Gmail account (including contacts and calendar) didn't seem to be any harm. Only thing I can think is if my Titanium back up had something corrupt in it. I did restore that (apps only, no system data) after factory reset.
Thanks in advance for any help
Are other apps syncing correctly? I'd try a fresh start WITHOUT restoring anything through titanium.
Thank you.
Is it possible to determine which files backed up through Titanium might be causing the issue (or otherwise try to prevent against this down the road)? Alternately, after a full wipe/restore through Nandroid, is it possible to restore individual apps from a batch Titanium back up?
I know it seems to be specific to Incredibles that the typical wipe of calendar/contacts/gmail doesn't get rid of Google Services Framework FCs... so hoping to be sure all bases are covered.
Thanks again!
Yes, you "can" restore apps in titanium but have to be careful. It seems like most people don't have problems restoring just apps. Some are even OK with app+app data. Its NOT recommended to restore system data, especially if you're going from sense to AOSP or vice versa. Personally, I redownload my apps fresh from the market, using the automated Google restore or the web market, which you can download apps straight to your phone from. I've never run into any problems doing it this way.
Sounds like my GFs problem too, except the FC'ing happens once and a while and I have to format the whole phone to fix it.
My Incredible with CM7 is having the same problems
I was using an older CM7 nightly which had been stable for several months.
Out of the blue, all my google apps start crashing, as well as the framework.
Force closes EVERYWHERE.
I loaded the latest nightly, and rebooted. Same problem.
Had some trouble with Titanium Backup destroying the functionality of my home button along the way... so I started from scratch (as much as possible):
Wiped the Delvik Cache, Formatted the Cache, Wiped the Data.
Installed newest CM7 and gapps from cyanogenmod.
Ran "Fix Permissions".
Reverted back to the included ADW.Launcher instead of the paid version I previously had.
Manually installed a skeleton set of apps, and used titanium backup only to restore data on a handful of apps that really needed it.
It was stable for a day, then the same force close issues with all my google apps and the google framework.
Rebooting the phone seems to help temporarily, but I hate having to reboot my phone twice a day.
I've been updating to new nightlies every day now, hoping that one of them will finally fix this problem.
Do I need to flash a new radio, perhaps?
What could I be missing?
When you do a fresh install, wipe system and boot as well data/factory reset. Also, try downloading and installing apps from market, not titanium (restore nothing from titanium). Your radio should be a 2.15 series, but also shouldn't cause this.
Found this thread looking for my answer and found a solution somewhere else, just as an FYI here:
The strange thing is, I'm NOT out of space. My SD card and internal memory have plenty of room. Then I remembered: The Incredible only has about 300 MB of application storage partitioned. Cyanogen seems to work around this problem, EXCEPT for apps from the Marketplace. They will still say there is not enough space. Other install sources (raw apk, amazon, etc), work just fine.
I remembered that I installed Peggle from Amazon yesterday, which was an 80 MB download. I also remembered I couldn't re-install Angry Birds that day because the Market said I was out of space.
So! I uninstalled Peggle and a couple more large apps I don't need, turned all my syncing back on, no DB I/O errors in LogCat, no force closes, no nothing!
So here's my diagnosis:
-HTC Incredible only partitions ~300 MB for applications+data
-Cyanogen lets users install MORE than 300 MB of applications+data
-Android services (such as market and sync) don't understand Cyanogen is doing
-Android services fail gracefully (like market), or not so gracefully (like Sync) when you are out of 'storage'.
-Making sure you have some "free" space in your /data/data/ folder (I have about 30 MB) causes these force closes to stop.
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http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/24484-lots-of-google-framework-failuresrebooting-needed
I've been having this issue for the past couple of weeks and I don't know how to resolve it. At first I thought it might have been my ROM so I wiped everything clean and flashed a new ROM but the problem still exists. I read on a forum that the cache partition could be full so I used Terminal Emulator to check the disk usage and I'm reading that my /cache is 98% full. I also have a dalvik cache in the cache folder as well as a dalvik cache in my /data folder both of which are close to 300mb in size. I tried to clear the cache and dalvik cache in recovery before resorting to the full wipe and each time both cache rebuilt themselves. I'm completely at a loss and I'd really appreciate some help with this issue. Thanks in advance.
So you're out of space? Perhaps you have several backups from CWM taking up all the room. They are pretty large files. I myself keep my stock backup and my most recent, the rest of them rest on my pc.
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thats not the case here. i dug around a bit and saw that my cache and dalvik cache are 98% full. as stated earlier i tried deleting the dalvik cache but it regenerates itself. i looked around in titanium backup and saw an option to integrate some of the cache to the system. i enabled that and it moved around 150 items around and freed up some space. i'm still around 88% full and i know this problem is gonna rear it's ugly head very soon so I'm trying to install programs like link2sd and as2d+. none of these programs are working though...they all require partitioned sd cards (which i have) but none of these programs are seeing the partitioned card. i've tried repartitioning under recovery but that does absolutely nothing. anyway e4gt users can take advantage of these programs?
I had the same issue and it was driving me crazy. I just downloaded Cache Fixer and ran it and now I am good. Turns out my cache was 95% full, wiped it using that tool and I can now update and download.
I want to add that after it cleared, I could update but some of the other apps on the phone did no work (Google Music and Dolphin Browser to nae a few). I re-boot and the cache is back to pre clearing levels and no other issues. It does temporarily fix the isse bt I do not have a permanent fix.
If anyone has one, I would love to know what that may be.
i just want to say that I am having the same exact issue and performed the same steps the OP did. Only when I wipe the cache with cache fixer it everything forces closes so i can't update anything. So i am really stuck.
The only success that I have temporarily is uninstalling the app then resinstalling it. But thats not a permanent solution and sucks for apps like beautiful widgets.
PLEASE HELP
EDIT: on calkulins 3.0 rom and self updated google play