I want to buy mhl cable for my note, the thing is, I'm not familiar with this technology at all, seen a few videos where mhl won't work unless its plugged into a power source, which might be an inconvenience as it requires u to carry the charger.
How is the image quality on the screen? 1080?
Anyone with good experience can tell me a way around this, more into less wires carried around?
and a good mhl cable link to buy from, cos there r thousands out there...
Sorry for such question but this is my first Samsung device (coming from desire HD)
Cheers.
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I've yet to receive my Note but coming from a GSII I can answer a few things.
Unfortunately, yes you will need to have a power cable plugged into the MHL adapter, and I don't believe there is any workaround.
The effective resolution on the TV will be mirrored from the phone's native resolution. So a phone that is 480x800 will only mirror that resolution throughout the OS. Only when playing HD content will the phone put out 720/1080(p/i) effective resolution.
The great thing with the Note is that because the native res. is already 1280x800, that will be the res displayed on the TV which will be great for web browsing as that's about an average laptop res.
Any MHL adapter should do. I bought a cheap one from expansys and it works without a hitch. Just read any comments on the product to see if previous buyers said it doesn't work on a recent device.
I bought genuine Samsung from Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LGUDKK/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
It arrived as advertised and works great!
thank you for the feedback , i bought http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0060Z8CYK from amazon uk , it has a discount on it for the time being.
will report once i get it.
cheers
Goodm7sn said:
thank you for the feedback , i bought http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0060Z8CYK from amazon uk , it has a discount on it for the time being.
will report once i get it.
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I bought a non Samsung one on ebay and am having problems. The connection keeps breaking down and re establishing (the video on the phone continues). I've tried 3 chargers and 2 cables. The MHL adapter gets warm also. I was looking into getting a genuine version from Samsung and looked at Amazon (UK). 1 reviewer had doubts about the authenticity of the device he received, fearing it to be a counterfeit.
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I bought a non Samsung one on ebay and am having problems. The connection keeps breaking down and re establishing (the video on the phone continues).
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I had this issue a couple times on my GSII and I found that using SetCPU to lock the clock speed up to 1GHz+ [depending] helped and basically removed the issue, so give that a try and see if it did anything.
charging through HDMI
isnt the HDMI TV port supposed to charge the device , or provide enough power for the adaptor to work ?
not all models can provide power through HDMI but some newr ones can i suppose ? i read that somewhere so long ago but i cant find it anymore to link as a reference , though im not quite 100% sure of that , ,may be it me saying non-sense ??
cheers
DarkShot666 said:
I've yet to receive my Note but coming from a GSII I can answer a few things.
Unfortunately, yes you will need to have a power cable plugged into the MHL adapter, and I don't believe there is any workaround.
The effective resolution on the TV will be mirrored from the phone's native resolution. So a phone that is 480x800 will only mirror that resolution throughout the OS. Only when playing HD content will the phone put out 720/1080(p/i) effective resolution.
The great thing with the Note is that because the native res. is already 1280x800, that will be the res displayed on the TV which will be great for web browsing as that's about an average laptop res.
Any MHL adapter should do. I bought a cheap one from expansys and it works without a hitch. Just read any comments on the product to see if previous buyers said it doesn't work on a recent device.
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DarkShot666 said:
I had this issue a couple times on my GSII and I found that using SetCPU to lock the clock speed up to 1GHz+ [depending] helped and basically removed the issue, so give that a try and see if it did anything.
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Thanks for the advice. Have just installed setCPU with minimum speed of 1000 but still getting disconnections. Am not sure, however, how to use setCPU so the min CPU speed might not have been saved.
Goodm7sn said:
isnt the HDMI TV port supposed to charge the device , or provide enough power for the adaptor to work ?
not all models can provide power through HDMI but some newr ones can i suppose ? i read that somewhere so long ago but i cant find it anymore to link as a reference , though im not quite 100% sure of that , ,may be it me saying non-sense ??
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From what I recall, TVs that support MHL will provide the adapter with power so the power cable can be used to charge the phone while plugged into the adapter. I might however, not be 100% correct.
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Thanks for the advice. Have just installed setCPU with minimum speed of 1000 but still getting disconnections. Am not sure, however, how to use setCPU so the min CPU speed might not have been saved.
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Odd. Have you tried to set SetCPU to performance with the top clock speed at 1.4GHz or higher? That could potentially help.
Cheers.
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Odd. Have you tried to set SetCPU to performance with the top clock speed at 1.4GHz or higher? That could potentially help.
Cheers.
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Will give it a try, thanks.
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I bought a non Samsung one on ebay and am having problems. The connection keeps breaking down and re establishing (the video on the phone continues). I've tried 3 chargers and 2 cables. The MHL adapter gets warm also. I was looking into getting a genuine version from Samsung and looked at Amazon (UK). 1 reviewer had doubts about the authenticity of the device he received, fearing it to be a counterfeit.
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Hi there !
I've got the same problem than you, 4braid. Connect/disconnect every 1 or 2 minutes while playing a movie. Perhaps is it a software problem ? I use MX Video Player. What is yours ?
Samsung told me that SGS 2 cables were ok and, more than this, that every MHL cable should work. So, do we need to buy a Samsung cable to test ??
manu_katz said:
Hi there !
I've got the same problem than you, 4braid. Connect/disconnect every 1 or 2 minutes while playing a movie. Perhaps is it a software problem ? I use MX Video Player. What is yours ?
Samsung told me that SGS 2 cables were ok and, more than this, that every MHL cable should work. So, do we need to buy a Samsung cable to test ??
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Hi, I am using the default player but I don't think it's the problem as the video continues to play on the phone when the TV cuts out. Also, I've tried playing Asphalt HD through the TV and the same thing happens.
I'm gonna try another better HDMI cable and another app, just tu know if it's better. Perhaps will I have to try also with the branded Samsung MHL cable ?
I bought a non-samsung aswell.
Tried it and it works flawlessly on my LG plasma.
Tried several apps and sources.
Hi,
I think I got a clue !
In fact, it's not so easy to explain but I'm gonna try...
I have put my new HDMI cable between my Galaxy Note and my HD tv. I have watched a new movie with the same video player (MX video player) and I notice great results : no disconnections ! I was very excited and tried the movie that I was watching last time with problerms. And, then, no problems this time ! So happy again !
But that's not finished. Listen...
At a moment, it cuts ! And 4 seconds later my phone rings. I answear and watch my movie again. A few minutes later, a new cut ! And 4 seconds later, my phone rings a second time. I don't answear and the movie goes on. 15 seconds later, my movie stops again and my phone ring to show me that I have a message.
It seems that the phone network is not transparent in that case. More, that not only the fact that phone calls stop the MHL transfer (like the camera application do) because, otherwise, the signal should have stopped at the moment of the phone rings and not 4 seconds before. These 4 seconds are the time, for the phone, to switch between Wifi network to 3G network ! And, that's a fact, I was connected with Wifi during time where my MHL connection worked.
I'm not sure of being clear in my explanations but, if you ever put your phone near a amplified device, there's a symptomatic noise every x seconds or minutes when the phone look for a signal on the phone network (something like bzzz bzzz bzzz). Well, I think that each time that event arrives, the MHL link is "broken" for a little time.
To be sure, I tried somethig else : I have disconnected Wifi and used only 3G network and my disconnections returned back frequently ! I have reconnected my phone to Wifi and I have no disconnections problems again !!
So strange, isn't it ??
Perhaps the distance between my phone and my tv plays too ? It seems that a good quality HDMI cable is a good thing too.
Well, 4braid, could you try to use Wifi a short moment (or even cut the phone network by puting your phone in airplane mode) to test and tell me the result ?
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Hi,
I think I got a clue !
In fact, it's not so easy to explain but I'm gonna try...
I have put my new HDMI cable between my Galaxy Note and my HD tv. I have watched a new movie with the same video player (MX video player) and I notice great results : no disconnections ! I was very excited and tried the movie that I was watching last time with problerms. And, then, no problems this time ! So happy again !
But that's not finished. Listen...
At a moment, it cuts ! And 4 seconds later my phone rings. I answear and watch my movie again. A few minutes later, a new cut ! And 4 seconds later, my phone rings a second time. I don't answear and the movie goes on. 15 seconds later, my movie stops again and my phone ring to show me that I have a message.
It seems that the phone network is not transparent in that case. More, that not only the fact that phone calls stop the MHL transfer (like the camera application do) because, otherwise, the signal should have stopped at the moment of the phone rings and not 4 seconds before. These 4 seconds are the time, for the phone, to switch between Wifi network to 3G network ! And, that's a fact, I was connected with Wifi during time where my MHL connection worked.
I'm not sure of being clear in my explanations but, if you ever put your phone near a amplified device, there's a symptomatic noise every x seconds or minutes when the phone look for a signal on the phone network (something like bzzz bzzz bzzz). Well, I think that each time that event arrives, the MHL link is "broken" for a little time.
To be sure, I tried somethig else : I have disconnected Wifi and used only 3G network and my disconnections returned back frequently ! I have reconnected my phone to Wifi and I have no disconnections problems again !!
So strange, isn't it ??
Perhaps the distance between my phone and my tv plays too ? It seems that a good quality HDMI cable is a good thing too.
Well, 4braid, could you try to use Wifi a short moment (or even cut the phone network by puting your phone in airplane mode) to test and tell me the result ?
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Hi manu_katz,
You are a true genius!!!
Switched to flight mode and played a video with no problems (even tried a game).
Cancelled flight mode and signal to TV lost in less than a minute (video continued on phone). After picture returned to TV I called the phone from my landline and as soon as I pressed the last digit of the telephone number the signal was lost and 4 seconds later the phone rang. Also happened when I sent SMS to myself. I suppose this will happen every time the device "phones home". Many thanks for your info. you have saved my from buying a genuine Samsung MHL adaptor.
Great to hear I was right !
Me too, I have seen a movie entirely, yesterday night !
As I said, perhaps is there ways to correct the problem without need of cutting 3G network (like the fact to use a branded cable or the distance between phone and tv) but for now we find the way to use our f*** not branded cable ! Lol !!
Are you able to see the srt subtitles on the tv screen with the mhl cable? I can only see them on the phone screen but not on the tv.
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Are you able to see the srt subtitles on the tv screen with the mhl cable? I can only see them on the phone screen but not on the tv.
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I've encountered that issue too. It's a shame unfortunately, but the only way I've found to get them to work is to use software decoding. It's a downer, but it does work.
I've got a strange problem with my third party cable (similar to this one: http://www.lunashops.co.uk/goods-935.html). It seems like the output is cropped on the top and bottom (so the notification screen and dock are cut off). I've already tried all the aspect ratio settings on both of my TVs (1 HD Ready and 1 Full HD), so that isn't it. Has anyone else experienced this before?
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So, got mine today from mobile fun, link Below.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
Mobile Fun's mini Video Review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnU5F_0TyZI&feature=player_embedded
First of all it works, the most important thing, it works well in fact and my 1080p videos look fantastic, those I have downloaded and those I have recorded myself with this phone, they really do look great and a HD TV. So for the measly price of 15-20 sheets its worth it regardless of the issues below.
The only problem:
For those that didn't know, i.e, didn't do their homework, you cannot just plug this in and it will work, it needs power. Now I knew about this and didn't really see it is an issue as I hadn't really imagined how this would look, work and feel. Well I can say that for me (only my opinion) its a bit of a mess, its far from elegant. Basically you have to plug in a usb cable into the adapter first, this powers it, then plug the adapter into the Phone and then the hdmi into the adapter and TV. This is all easily done but like I say it is far from a more elegant one cable solution that doesn't need power and doesn't need an adapter. For me this was my first real disappointment with this phone, a floating turd in an otherwise lake of glittering gold.
Now it could be argued that I knew about this and that I shouldn't be disappointed but I am, the whole thing in your hand just feels ungainly, something you are not going to know until you put it all together. I really don't like the idea that you have to have a second cable to power it either, again I know this so I don't need this pointing out but people should be aware of this drawback, however minor.
Summary (for those who can be arsed to read)
1. It works really well, HD stuff looks fantastic.
2. Its not an elegant solution as you need a usb cable to power the adapter itself.
What about the official Samsung one? That one is probably much better.
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What about the official Samsung one? That one is probably much better.
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marginally better in that the USB input is place in line with the cable and so when inserted it doesnt jut out at a right angle.
This Phone is never going to need MHL, its too early for the tech I think, its a fail for me, should have taken the same route as the LG2x, although even with this issue the sg2 is still the best phone on the market.
Hi. I have expansys version for £13. Also works great. But with yours whilst in use, does the phone keep charge or charge up whilst in use. With mine I find so far that even though the phone is charging whilst connected to the tv, it looses charge
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stoolzo said:
marginally better in that the USB input is place in line with the cable and so when inserted it doesnt jut out at a right angle.
This Phone is never going to need MHL, its too early for the tech I think, its a fail for me, should have taken the same route as the LG2x, although even with this issue the sg2 is still the best phone on the market.
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Maybe thats true for you, I'm using and loving MHL on mine.
ripnard said:
Hi. I have expansys version for £13. Also works great. But with yours whilst in use, does the phone keep charge or charge up whilst in use. With mine I find so far that even though the phone is charging whilst connected to the tv, it looses charge
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Dont worry - sorted it. Stoppped overclocking to 1.5ghz and using performance govenor (DOH!) and I can now stream 1080p from youutube over wifi (only works through full fat desktop internet browser mode btw, not via the youtbe app or youtube in mobile broweser page mode) with mobile data off and still charges the phone at the same time!
Wow 1080 video over internet wifi straight to tv. This phone rocks!
my only gripe with this adapter is that it requires power, if this port was just put in place to allow charging when playing this would have been fine, its just the fact you cannot use he adapter at all without an extra the power source.
I wonder what it actually is needing the power for.
The problem here is that there is no MHL compliant TV yet afaik.
Cause the MHL port in a TV would provide power to the phone without needing another cable.
You'd want it plugged in anyway. I can see the battery lasting an hour playing 1080P video outputting internally and externally at the same time.
Do you still have to have an external power source on the official samsung MHL adapter?
If so, I really doubt I'm buying one
In other words, I need to have a PC or power contact for it to work?
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Hey,
is the output really 1080p (if you have a movie which is 1080p), or is it Android´s/ the phone´s native resolution?
just wondering
bye
Its the phones resolution unless you're in the video player, in which case it outputs it in HD if the source file is HD (does 1080i for compressed video, I've heard it will do 1080p with un-compressed video, but not tried yet to confirm).
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I wonder what it actually is needing the power for.
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Probably for the MHL-to-HDMI bridge chip and any support electronics. Note that once MHL-capable TVs enter the market, it may be possible to use a straight-through passive cable, especially if the MHL-capable TV provides charging input to the phone as promised.
can someone tell me what is the cost for a good cable in us dollars?
Wouldnt it make sense for there to be an option to turn the phone screen off when outputting to the TV?
i orderd mine from clove, still waiting for my order..
I ordered this cable just now at mobilefun, but I made an error in my phone number. Wanted to press the escape button so the page wouldn't continue but it was too late. Lol .. anyway I'm sure it'll be fine. Although, I didn't receive a confirmation email yet
"Expected back in stock: 4-8 days" Grrrr
Official Samsung cable is on Amazon UK at the time I'm posting this for £17.99
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004ULZ0IW
Not sure I really need one but a heads-up for those who want it.
Edit: "Usually dispatched within 1 to 4 months"! - oh well maybe I'll order it and see if I need it when it gets here...
i am using the official samsung hdtv adapter/hdmi adapter. just got it today.
the quality of the output video is fantastic...
only gripe is similar to what was mentioned. have to get it powered before it can be used..
sighs..
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/20189616/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-MHL-Adapter-Black/Product.html?searchtype=MBLS&searchsource=0&searchstring=Samsung+Galaxy+S+II+MHL+To+HDMI+TV-+Out+Adapter+%2f+Black&urlrefer=search&strefer=MBLS&searchfilters=s{Samsung+Galaxy+S+II+MHL+To+HDMI+TV-+Out+Adapter+%2f+Black}%2bc{397}%2bc{528}%2b
Samsung Galaxy S II MHL To HDMI TV- Out Adapter / Black
Manufacturer: Samsung
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Usually dispatched within 1-2 weeks.
dont forget quidco or tcb only pence but hey ho
Be careful about "shipping date"
I've had mine on order for over a month form them now and I'm still waiting.
However yesterday it was shipped. So that may be a start.
all others may be ok as they now state they have stock.
I was going to order one from them. The shipping time was 24 hours yesterday but changed today so i went with mobile fun instead with 24 hour delivery. It costs a bit more but at least i will get it soon
Expansys have them (don't think they are Samsung branded though).
Were £12.99 earlier today, but currently showing as £15.99
Thought i would throw this website into the ring, its a UK site though...
http://www.nicecans.co.uk/genuine-s...to-hdmi-tv-adaptor-eia1uhunbecstd-p-2446.html
They were in stock yesterday but not now till August
davidoff08 said:
Thought i would throw this website into the ring, its a UK site though...
http://www.nicecans.co.uk/genuine-s...to-hdmi-tv-adaptor-eia1uhunbecstd-p-2446.html
They were in stock yesterday but not now till August
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I have seen some really abd reviews about that site so I would be careful ordering from them
Has anyone gotten his/her hands on one yet? I'm thinking of ordering one but, i'm wondering what the output resolution is (Mhl is up to 1080P), but the galaxy S2(I9100) is 800x480. Does it only ouput videos or everything that is on screen? I can find nowhere if it's outputs are 480i/p 576i/p 720p or 1080i/p if anyone knows more please tell
Shezed said:
Has anyone gotten his/her hands on one yet? I'm thinking of ordering one but, i'm wondering what the output resolution is (Mhl is up to 1080P), but the galaxy S2(I9100) is 800x480. Does it only ouput videos or everything that is on screen? I can find nowhere if it's outputs are 480i/p 576i/p 720p or 1080i/p if anyone knows more please tell
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I've a Bizlink MHL-Adapter (no differences between this one and Samsung's adapter).
It outputs exactly the same that is shown on the internal screen (with a resolution of 800 x 480), but when playing a movie the output resolution is set up to 1080p and only the movie will be shown. That means that it switches in a video mode with the full resolution of the video but without showing other information like the volume control or something like that. Such information are only shown on the internal screen when being in video mode. In this mode both screens are different so the GPU is more strained than in normal mode when cloning the screen.
In conclusion: Movies are shown in their native resolution and all other content is shown in the devices resolution as an copy of the internal screen.
I hope for a driver mod that enables a function for using defined resolutions on external screen. But there are different problems:
1. The GPU has to render 2 different resolutions (higher battery drain)
2. Both Renderings should show the same content in different resolutions (scaling problem)
3. To use the high resolution of the external screen effectively text sizes has to be adjusted to this resolution to show more text instead of smoother letters, so there occur (right word?) more differences between both screens (scaling problem too)
Can we use the camera while connected to TV out?
Can someone please confirm if we can use the camera feature while the TV output is ON for Galaxy S II through MHL to HDMI.
Kinda like using it as a webcam for a TV.. or for a live broadcasting/streaming.
I know that this could not be done with the GALAXY S when we connected the 3.5 mm jack as i was told that the hardware did not support this feature in galaxy S.
Samrez said:
Can someone please confirm if we can use the camera feature while the TV output is ON for Galaxy S II through MHL to HDMI.
Kinda like using it as a webcam for a TV.. or for a live broadcasting/streaming.
I know that this could not be done with the GALAXY S when we connected the 3.5 mm jack as i was told that the hardware did not support this feature in galaxy S.
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Just tried this - doesn't work. When running the Camera app (in both photo and video mode), it says on the TV:
"HDMI not available while application is running. Application will display on phone only"
Shezed said:
Has anyone gotten his/her hands on one yet? I'm thinking of ordering one but, i'm wondering what the output resolution is (Mhl is up to 1080P), but the galaxy S2(I9100) is 800x480. Does it only ouput videos or everything that is on screen? I can find nowhere if it's outputs are 480i/p 576i/p 720p or 1080i/p if anyone knows more please tell
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I ordered one off eBay early last week & received it on Wednesday. It mirrors the SGS2's LCD, so you'll see the home page, the app pages, and so on. I didn't get much time to play with it as I was out of town until today, but I did notice that the HDMI output on my Vizio 32" TV was 1080i, not 1080p; no idea why.
Got my delivery from play.
it's the original Samsung one.
Quite nice, and displays all movies in their native resolutions just stretched to fill the screen.
1080p movies obviously look great.
Also I should state that the quality of the tv your playing content on makes a massive difference.
I played a DVD rip on my work tv and the quality was poor
However the same movie played via the S2 on my home tv was clear and crisp.
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hye,
i bought it yesterday. when i plug in into my GS2, nothing appear at TV. i tot the HDMI cable got problem. but check using other player, it working perfectly. plug in charger cable into the MHL, it charged the phone. but nothing appear at the TV.
do i need to configure anything for this adapter? can u guys help me here. tqvm
Its kind of expensive... I wonder how much the phone will get while playing movies on tv..
Just got mine from mobilefun.co.uk (is cheaper at play.com).
Wasted half an hour to figure out that it needs power in order to work.
For those that got it from play - how long did delivery take as nede it within a week?
Has anyone tried this el cheapo version from DX?
friend1 said:
Just got mine from mobilefun.co.uk (is cheaper at play.com)
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mobilefun.co.uk's website has been down for over 14 hours...
hattasan said:
hye,
i bought it yesterday. when i plug in into my GS2, nothing appear at TV. i tot the HDMI cable got problem. but check using other player, it working perfectly. plug in charger cable into the MHL, it charged the phone. but nothing appear at the TV.
do i need to configure anything for this adapter? can u guys help me here. tqvm
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okie dokie....got the solution. need to plug in the power with, heheeh
I got the Cable Matters MHL to HDMI adapter (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4
Dematank said:
I got the Cable Matters (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4
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I've played FF7 via FPSe piped to my TV using the OEM Samsung MHL adapter for about 2 hours straight and never noticed any issues. Works great. And I got it for $16 off eBay shipping included.
ctomgee said:
I've played FF7 via FPSe piped to my TV using the OEM Samsung MHL adapter for about 2 hours straight and never noticed any issues. Works great. And I got it for $16 off eBay shipping included.
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Sounds like an idea. I use mine for FPSE as well. And N64oid. Spent about an hour playing Super Smash Brothers before work today. Only cut out about three times during that run, lol.
In my experience the cutting is interference from the phones antenna , tried it in airplane mode? WiFi doesnt interfere.
Bloodrainer said:
In my experience the cutting is interference from the phones antenna , tried it in airplane mode? WiFi doesnt interfere.
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Have not tried airplane mode. Mostly, this is because I often use it as a desktop computer. Actually does the job fairly well. 19" flatscreen TV, BT keyboard and mouse, web browsing becomes a much more pleasant experience.
Mozilla needs to get off their asses and add an option to change the text size though. Dolphin works great but doesn't agree with some sites.
Indeed, that type of use shows the awesomeness of this device, i sometimes use Ubuntu, there's a nice package posted somewhere here, Firefox, GIMP etc on a cellphone is amazing. But enough of that ot, if airplane mode doesn't give you those cuts then when reconnected to cells try to position the cable in a way that it wont catch so much interference, i connect it to a 27" tv/monitor/tuner/almost coffee maker combo, and depending on positioning i can catch the moment when i'm going to loose signal by the tv's speakers catching the interference. Maybe you can find a position where it wont cut, i was able to position it in a safe way, so i believe it might be the lack of any screening at the chip on the cheap design.
one quick question i bought the mhl adapter from dealextreme a while ago but i´ve never really used till now since i bought a ps3 controller, my question regards image quality.
I am aware that the mhl adapter that i bought it isn´t the official but many people rated it high quality, when i play for example an emulator or riptige gp the image quality looks a lot better on the phone than it does on a tv or pc monitor, i´ve tested both, i don´t know if its just because the screen is smaller the image looks sharper but for example playing mario 64 on a big screen the image looks a bit squared/pixelated.
I even installed a pc emulator to compare (looks better), forced anti aliasing with chainfire and still looks pixelated.
The info that appears on my monitor is that the image is working at 1080i 1920*1080.
Is this normal ?
I have the official Samsung MHL adapter. It works great, the only issue is the display is a little bit trimmed off from the top and bottom. I have checked it on multiple TVs so I don't think TV settings are the issue.
mousiope, i know what you mean, it may be disorienting a bit, this is how it works.
The cable output is HD, but its only cloning the phones screen resolution when not playing high res videos, thats what produces the low resolution view on the monitor, so yes, it is because on the small screen it looks sharper. I noticed that on the emulators this is even more visible than on other uses, maybe the emulator itself is generating lower res than phones screen? never really looked at it. Try to change the LCD Density, its not quite the same than higher resolution but helps a little (mind tho that touchwiz doesnt scle properly with changes in lcd density, meaning it gets a little messy, small font, 4 icons per row always etc).
flippity, i never noticed trimming on my MHL output. Will check it tho.
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I got the Cable Matters MHL to HDMI adapter (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
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My original adapter has cuts followed by a horrible noise. It was a lot worse when i used the charger that comes with the phone, probably the electrical distribution in my block sucks. Powering the adapter with USB power from my notebook almost solved the problem.
But it's quite pointless powering the cellphone with a computer instead of just using the computer's HDMI... In fact the MHL support sucks IMO, the only true 1080i/p is the video player, not even the photo viewer supports it! The other manufacturers like HTC, LG, Motorola and even NVidia had the descence of releasing an API enabling this functionality since it's not supported by Android itself.
Now that Bloodrainer mentioned, I never used the MHL in airplane mode... interesting...
Well, i get nasty noise in audio output when connected to a cheap car charger, so yea, i'd vote for your houses electric wiring, sadly i dont know much about electrics my vote would be to try a grounded plug with a surge protector?
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mousiope, i know what you mean, it may be disorienting a bit, this is how it works.
The cable output is HD, but its only cloning the phones screen resolution when not playing high res videos, thats what produces the low resolution view on the monitor, so yes, it is because on the small screen it looks sharper. I noticed that on the emulators this is even more visible than on other uses, maybe the emulator itself is generating lower res than phones screen? never really looked at it. Try to change the LCD Density, its not quite the same than higher resolution but helps a little (mind tho that touchwiz doesnt scle properly with changes in lcd density, meaning it gets a little messy, small font, 4 icons per row always etc).
flippity, i never noticed trimming on my MHL output. Will check it tho.
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hmmm i see ill give it a try
does cm9 support mhl or the ics leaked sammy rom!? will the api support be available with ics?
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No clue about api support, none of the AOSP based roms suport MHL, as it requires much of the samsungs frame and stuff, so sadly cm, miui, etc dont support MHL, not tried the leaked ICS yet, but i belive it should support MHL as its samsung's release.
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I got the Cable Matters MHL to HDMI adapter (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
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I have bought original MHL adapter and i face d exact same issue. I have tried various media players, stock ROMs, stock kernels and still d same issue keeps coming
See this post 297
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036874
Hope someone can help finding exact cause of this issue
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hmmm i see ill give it a try
does cm9 support mhl or the ics leaked sammy rom!? will the api support be available with ics?
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not yet, but i hope that in the next leak they will fix this
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not yet, but i hope that in the next leak they will fix this
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incorrect i use the stock lp6 leaked rom and my samsung mhl adapter works fine.
I entered Flight Mode as Bloodrainer said, and apparently this fixed the cuts.
Does Cyanogenmod7 allow you to output in full 1080p?
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Does Cyanogenmod7 allow you to output in full 1080p?
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I didn't think CyanogenMod supported MHL out at all...
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Has anyone found a way to hook up their tablet to their TV with full display? I bought an hdmi adapter but it has a black bar on each side not covering the whole TV display. My note 10.1 2013 version didn't have this problem.
I have the same issue and haven't found a solution so far. What makes it worse, it defaults to a 1080i 24hz signal which is very noticeably laggy especially when gaming. And the colors are bad. Makes no sense, the note 10.1 should have 0 issue pushing 1080p/60hz when it does usually alot more than that.
what we need is hdmi options. I also want to be able to turn off the screen of my tablet when it's outputting to the TV.
Exactly!!! I even bought an hdmi cable that plugs into power and it's not charging the tablet at all. I also would love if you could shut the tablet off while doing so. Do you think the samsumg all cast wirele hub is the answer? For now anyway? Correct me if im wrong but doesnt it fix all problems were discussing except the "covering the whole screen" part? Well and slight lag... man this sucks... how is this tablet not as supported as the 1st generation one? Lame...
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I did some testing today and it really grinds my gears... I have a 3rd party adapter 5 in 1 (hdmi, usb, sd card, micro sd, micro usb) standard 5 pin mhl and an adapter for 11 pin mhl.
-my wife's galaxy s2 works perfectly with the 5 pin. Outputs full 1080p / 60hz smooth and responsive.
-My sgs3 doesn't work at all with the adapter (4.3 stock), it starts charging but there is no image on the screen.
-my note 10.1 2014 works but it outputs 1080p / 24hz and it has a really bad delay that makes it impossible to play games, and of course 24 fps is laggy as ****. And of course it has black boarders on the side.
I can't believe that there isn't a settings menu for hdmi. Even my old transformer tf201 had one. And you get the best experience with the 4 year old sgs2(running 4.2). Unbelievable.
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I did some testing today and it really grinds my gears... I have a 3rd party adapter 5 in 1 (hdmi, usb, sd card, micro sd, micro usb) standard 5 pin mhl and an adapter for 11 pin mhl.
-my wife's galaxy s2 works perfectly with the 5 pin. Outputs full 1080p / 60hz smooth and responsive.
-My sgs3 doesn't work at all with the adapter (4.3 stock), it starts charging but there is no image on the screen.
-my note 10.1 2014 works but it outputs 1080p / 24hz and it has a really bad delay that makes it impossible to play games, and of course 24 fps is laggy as ****. And of course it has black boarders on the side.
I can't believe that there isn't a settings menu for hdmi. Even my old transformer tf201 had one. And you get the best experience with the 4 year old sgs2(running 4.2). Unbelievable.
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Its extremely frustrating... I don't know if it will ever get fixed... That's one of the main uses for my tablet too.
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Exactly!!! I even bought an hdmi cable that plugs into power and it's not charging the tablet at all. I also would love if you could shut the tablet off while doing so. Do you think the samsumg all cast wirele hub is the answer? For now anyway? Correct me if im wrong but doesnt it fix all problems were discussing except the "covering the whole screen" part? Well and slight lag... man this sucks... how is this tablet not as supported as the 1st generation one? Lame...
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AllShare Cast...
1080P MKV...
720P Google Play movie...
Plain old screen mirroring...
BarryH_GEG said:
AllShare Cast...
1080P MKV...
720P Google Play movie...
Plain old screen mirroring...
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ok... so whats the conclusion here...
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ok... so whats the conclusion here...
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I've never used a physical adapter so can't really draw one. AllShare Cast works really well on the N10.1-14, a lot faster than my old N10.1-12. Video apps that were barely usable on the '12 are no problem on the '14. I'm not a big gamer so perhaps someone who is and uses AllShare Cast can comment.
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I've never used a physical adapter so can't really draw one. AllShare Cast works really well on the N10.1-14, a lot faster than my old N10.1-12. Video apps that were barely usable on the '12 are no problem on the '14. I'm not a big gamer so perhaps someone who is and uses AllShare Cast can comment.
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Thanks for the info. Does it cover your whole TV screen? I can't really tell in the pics. I don't game on my tablet trying to look at a TV lol I personally think that's kinda dumb. I have a ps3 and games on my tablet that I just play on my tablet.
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Thanks for the info. Does it cover your whole TV screen? I can't really tell in the pics. I don't game on my tablet trying to look at a TV lol I personally think that's kinda dumb. I have a ps3 and games on my tablet that I just play on my tablet.
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The TV's got a black frame so it's hard to see. I'd say the picture being mirrored is 100% with some small bars on the sides that are necessary to adjust 16:10 to 16:9. I've noticed nothing distorted in any of the apps/content I've viewed.
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Here's another question, I just hooked my tablet up to my ps3 via bluetooth and it will allow me to share video, pic's, and music. But I have some videos downloaded and put them in that folder where the ps3 is looking for them. I rebooted and the ps3 still does not see the video. its an mp4 so Im not sure if I need to convert it to a different format or what. Anyone have any insight on that? Im still new to the ps3 as I just got it a few months back.
I'm not prepared to pay for another 70-80$ device (that's what allshare costs where i live) to get a good image... This tablet is a highly advanced device and i expect hdmi out to work. As I said it works very well on the 4 year old sgs2 why would it work worse on a 2014 device?
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The TV's got a black frame so it's hard to see. I'd say the picture being mirrored is 100% with some small bars on the sides that are necessary to adjust 16:10 to 16:9. I've noticed nothing distorted in any of the apps/content I've viewed.
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So, can I mirror onto my 60inch vizio with the all share wireless hub?
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I'm not prepared to pay for another 70-80$ device (that's what allshare costs where i live) to get a good image... This tablet is a highly advanced device and i expect hdmi out to work. As I said it works very well on the 4 year old sgs2 why would it work worse on a 2014 device?
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I agree that's a lot more money for something other cheaper devices already do. You go on a still keep your tablet?
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RussellEstridge25 said:
Here's another question, I just hooked my tablet up to my ps3 via bluetooth and it will allow me to share video, pic's, and music. But I have some videos downloaded and put them in that folder where the ps3 is looking for them. I rebooted and the ps3 still does not see the video. its an mp4 so Im not sure if I need to convert it to a different format or what. Anyone have any insight on that? Im still new to the ps3 as I just got it a few months back.
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EDIT: Never mind. I got it all to work. So I guess thats my work around for now. Im just going to use my ps3 to view the videos I want. Not the ideal solution but it beats spending more money! Hopefully something gets figured out in the mean time. I shouldn't have to rely on a ps3 for this type of thing on such an awesome device.
I am experiencing weird bug. Connecting to DVI monitor through adapter direct forces 640x480. Through AV receiver black screen at all, only audio works. I guess my monitor or adapter is the reason, however this setup works well with raspberry pi (1280x1024).
Does anybody using HDMI to DVI adapters to connect Fire Tv? Is there any way to force resolution? Changing through gui is disabled for me.
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I'm having a similar problem. My TV is old and doesn't have an HDMI port, so I'm using an HDMI to DVI adapter as I did with my Pi. My screen goes black right after "Checking for Updates"
This is apparently an HDCP issue, which I don't know much about. My TV's DVI port is supposed to be HDCP compatible. There are "active" adapters that can fool the Fire TV and make it work, apparently, but I'm trying to get it working without having to spend another $30 on another stupid adapter.
It's a very disappointing bug, I guess. When I connecting it through receiver my monitor shows 1280x720 but screen is always black. However rarely I can catch flickering with signal. It means monitor support this (720p) resolution. On direct connection it works, but at 640x480 and not allow to change resolution. I thinking about buying optical audio cable to connect it to receiver directly but it's about 30$ and resolutions is so odd. I hope this will be fixed with new OTA. So if anyone is thinking about to buy Fire TV to use with DVI monitor, right now it looks like a bad idea. I'd rather bought something other if know that.
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It's a very disappointing bug, I guess. When I connecting it through receiver my monitor shows 1280x720 but screen is always black. However rarely I can catch flickering with signal. It means monitor support this (720p) resolution. On direct connection it works, but at 640x480 and not allow to change resolution. I thinking about buying optical audio cable to connect it to receiver directly but it's about 30$ and resolutions is so odd. I hope this will be fixed with new OTA. So if anyone is thinking about to buy Fire TV to use with DVI monitor, right now it looks like a bad idea. I'd rather bought something other if know that.
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I got my TOSLINK cable for about $5 (with Prime shipping) from Amazon, and a TOSLINK to stereo RCA converter from eBay for $13.
When you get the black screen, if you unplug the HDMI and plug it back in with the right timing (fairly quickly but not too quickly) you can kind of make it work. It looks like crap but the menus are navigable. The first time, I had colorful static with the clear picture flashing through every 5 seconds or so. I reseated the HDMI cable again a few more times and it came up clear (except for the terrible resolution).
Thank, I will check for cheaper dealer. The price I've talking about is for belkin cable. As for you hack thanks for information may be it will be helpful for someone. Behaviour you describing stopped for me after first OTA. Right now I always get crap resolution on direct connection without flickering. But before update it flickers continuously too. I hope next OTA will fix it. May be drop a line to amazon is make sense?
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Finally I've bought a cheap TOSLINK cable, and was really disappointed to find it almost quiet. For an hour trying to switch different modes on Fire TV and AV receiver. My last hope was factory reset and it helps, so, I'm with sound right now it's much better, but still on a crap resolution. I hope Amazon will fit it, I believe hardware is ok.
Sound works for a day and again disappeared. I think for some reason device forced routing it to HDMI. I've just leave it along for a day and after woke up uncovered no sound. However receiver show, that signal is ok, if not it is blinking. But signal is silence. I started to think about selling this piece of crap.
I found some info about this bug. It's a well known android problem.
Some sources mention it was fixed since 3.8 kernel issued.
Current firmware incorporates 3.4. I hope next update will fix this.
iRet said:
I found some info about this bug. It's a well known android problem.
Some sources mention it was fixed since 3.8 kernel issued.
Current firmware incorporates 3.4. I hope next update will fix this.
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Any updates on the situation? I was hoping to temporarily connect my Fire TV to a monitor that also only has DVI input. I do have an HDMI-DVI-cable but it's going to be another two weeks unti the actual Fire TV is released here in Germany.
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Any updates on the situation? I was hoping to temporarily connect my Fire TV to a monitor that also only has DVI input. I do have an HDMI-DVI-cable but it's going to be another two weeks unti the actual Fire TV is released here in Germany.
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The last version I've checked was second update which not affects root. And problem still present. However with low resolution it works, I believe this is a kind of safe mode. Currently my monitor is burned out, so no news.
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The last version I've checked was second update which not affects root. And problem still present. However with low resolution it works, I believe this is a kind of safe mode. Currently my monitor is burned out, so no news.
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Man I really wish they could fix this or have a workaround!
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Man I really wish they could fix this or have a workaround!
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Well, finally, I've checked this DVI-HDMI adapter with brand new monitor and got the same results. Possibly it's an adapter issue. However Raspberry Pi works well through it, but Fire TV only in safe mode on two different displays.
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Well, finally, I've checked this DVI-HDMI adapter with brand new monitor and got the same results. Possibly it's an adapter issue. However Raspberry Pi works well through it, but Fire TV only in safe mode on two different displays.
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I would imagine there is a way to have a modified android that doesnt default to safe mode automatically?
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I would imagine there is a way to have a modified android that doesnt default to safe mode automatically?
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Not sure for android, I'm playing with Fedora on this devise, but not yet checked through this adapter connecting directly to new display. Will check with adapter this weekends.
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Not sure for android, I'm playing with Fedora on this devise, but not yet checked through this adapter connecting directly to new display. Will check with adapter this weekends.
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Did anyone manage to work out a solution?
I'm having a similar issue with an hdmi to dvi adapter - works fine if hooking up to a monitor via hdmi, but if using the adapter it only outputs 480p - and says the monitor doesn't support higher resolutions. I'd love to be able to use the AFTV with an older, larger DVI-only monitor that I have.