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MHL / HDMI Mini review.

So, got mine today from mobile fun, link Below.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
Mobile Fun's mini Video Review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnU5F_0TyZI&feature=player_embedded
First of all it works, the most important thing, it works well in fact and my 1080p videos look fantastic, those I have downloaded and those I have recorded myself with this phone, they really do look great and a HD TV. So for the measly price of 15-20 sheets its worth it regardless of the issues below.
The only problem:
For those that didn't know, i.e, didn't do their homework, you cannot just plug this in and it will work, it needs power. Now I knew about this and didn't really see it is an issue as I hadn't really imagined how this would look, work and feel. Well I can say that for me (only my opinion) its a bit of a mess, its far from elegant. Basically you have to plug in a usb cable into the adapter first, this powers it, then plug the adapter into the Phone and then the hdmi into the adapter and TV. This is all easily done but like I say it is far from a more elegant one cable solution that doesn't need power and doesn't need an adapter. For me this was my first real disappointment with this phone, a floating turd in an otherwise lake of glittering gold.
Now it could be argued that I knew about this and that I shouldn't be disappointed but I am, the whole thing in your hand just feels ungainly, something you are not going to know until you put it all together. I really don't like the idea that you have to have a second cable to power it either, again I know this so I don't need this pointing out but people should be aware of this drawback, however minor.
Summary (for those who can be arsed to read)
1. It works really well, HD stuff looks fantastic.
2. Its not an elegant solution as you need a usb cable to power the adapter itself.

What about the official Samsung one? That one is probably much better.
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diehard2222 said:
What about the official Samsung one? That one is probably much better.
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marginally better in that the USB input is place in line with the cable and so when inserted it doesnt jut out at a right angle.
This Phone is never going to need MHL, its too early for the tech I think, its a fail for me, should have taken the same route as the LG2x, although even with this issue the sg2 is still the best phone on the market.

Hi. I have expansys version for £13. Also works great. But with yours whilst in use, does the phone keep charge or charge up whilst in use. With mine I find so far that even though the phone is charging whilst connected to the tv, it looses charge
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stoolzo said:
marginally better in that the USB input is place in line with the cable and so when inserted it doesnt jut out at a right angle.
This Phone is never going to need MHL, its too early for the tech I think, its a fail for me, should have taken the same route as the LG2x, although even with this issue the sg2 is still the best phone on the market.
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Maybe thats true for you, I'm using and loving MHL on mine.

ripnard said:
Hi. I have expansys version for £13. Also works great. But with yours whilst in use, does the phone keep charge or charge up whilst in use. With mine I find so far that even though the phone is charging whilst connected to the tv, it looses charge
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Dont worry - sorted it. Stoppped overclocking to 1.5ghz and using performance govenor (DOH!) and I can now stream 1080p from youutube over wifi (only works through full fat desktop internet browser mode btw, not via the youtbe app or youtube in mobile broweser page mode) with mobile data off and still charges the phone at the same time!
Wow 1080 video over internet wifi straight to tv. This phone rocks!

my only gripe with this adapter is that it requires power, if this port was just put in place to allow charging when playing this would have been fine, its just the fact you cannot use he adapter at all without an extra the power source.

I wonder what it actually is needing the power for.

The problem here is that there is no MHL compliant TV yet afaik.
Cause the MHL port in a TV would provide power to the phone without needing another cable.

You'd want it plugged in anyway. I can see the battery lasting an hour playing 1080P video outputting internally and externally at the same time.

Do you still have to have an external power source on the official samsung MHL adapter?
If so, I really doubt I'm buying one
In other words, I need to have a PC or power contact for it to work?
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Hey,
is the output really 1080p (if you have a movie which is 1080p), or is it Android´s/ the phone´s native resolution?
just wondering
bye

Its the phones resolution unless you're in the video player, in which case it outputs it in HD if the source file is HD (does 1080i for compressed video, I've heard it will do 1080p with un-compressed video, but not tried yet to confirm).

PointZeroOne said:
I wonder what it actually is needing the power for.
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Probably for the MHL-to-HDMI bridge chip and any support electronics. Note that once MHL-capable TVs enter the market, it may be possible to use a straight-through passive cable, especially if the MHL-capable TV provides charging input to the phone as promised.

can someone tell me what is the cost for a good cable in us dollars?

Wouldnt it make sense for there to be an option to turn the phone screen off when outputting to the TV?

i orderd mine from clove, still waiting for my order..

I ordered this cable just now at mobilefun, but I made an error in my phone number. Wanted to press the escape button so the page wouldn't continue but it was too late. Lol .. anyway I'm sure it'll be fine. Although, I didn't receive a confirmation email yet
"Expected back in stock: 4-8 days" Grrrr

Official Samsung cable is on Amazon UK at the time I'm posting this for £17.99
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004ULZ0IW
Not sure I really need one but a heads-up for those who want it.
Edit: "Usually dispatched within 1 to 4 months"! - oh well maybe I'll order it and see if I need it when it gets here...

i am using the official samsung hdtv adapter/hdmi adapter. just got it today.
the quality of the output video is fantastic...
only gripe is similar to what was mentioned. have to get it powered before it can be used..
sighs..

MHL to HDMI connector

Hi guys
i just bought mhl to hdmi convertor off ebay and it supports 1080p resolution. However when i connect it with my Gnex it only outputs 640x480 resolution ...is there any fix for this??

mohsin125 said:
Hi guys
i just bought mhl to hdmi convertor off ebay and it supports 1080p resolution. However when i connect it with my Gnex it only outputs 640x480 resolution ...is there any fix for this??
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What are you trying to output? Home screen?movie?game?
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everything i have tried is displaying at 640x480 resolution...even movies games

seems like you got a funky MHL my friend.

mohsin125 said:
everything i have tried is displaying at 640x480 resolution...even movies games
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did you sort this as ive got the same but im using a hdmi to dvi adaptor to try on a monitor, it says 1280 x 720 support on the box...
cheers

I'm experiencing some sort of overscan when using the adapter, but I'm not sure if it is the phone, my av-receiver or the TV.
Oh well. It was dirt cheap on dealextreme.com. Not like I lost a lot of money

I haven't got one yet but have been researching like crazy. What I have found so far is that cheap ones are cheap. They do what yours is doing, the connections need to be wiggled to keep it connected etc. Spring for a good quality one if you're actually going to be using it. The folks at MHL have a good one I think, just haven't been able to find it.

No 1080p when using DVI
What a pity! Back in time, when we had ICS there we at least got the possibility to use 1280x720 (as far as I remember) when using a monitor via mhl->hdmi->dvi chain, now we are only getting 640x480, Even when watching movies.
You will only get full HD whenn you connect directly usb-.hdmi->TV
So no desktop mode any more.

mohsin125 said:
Hi guys
i just bought mhl to hdmi convertor off ebay and it supports 1080p resolution. However when i connect it with my Gnex it only outputs 640x480 resolution ...is there any fix for this??
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I don't know how helpful this is, but Samsung actually makes an HDMI media dock for the GNex that works really well. I'm not sure how much it costs, however, as mine came with my phone.
The only issue I've had with it is that I have to take the case off my phone to use it.

The real good question...
The real question here is: "Can the Galaxy Nexus output 1080p playback, given his native resolution IS NOT 1080p?"
I mean, I know that OSs can adapt second displays and all that, Linux does that, but can Android do that? Treat the HDMI output as a second and independent display? I hope it can. I have a MHL=>HDMI cable (that also needs the power adapter to be plugged in) and I can only get 720p out of it, and the GNex can actually play 1080p movies, so... That would be awesome to play 1080p movies on my TV screen.

HTC One x connection via MHL adapter.

Hi Guys,
I have the one x, Optoma pk301, MHL adapter and the required HDMI cable. Got the connection all set up but I'm unable to get a display on the projector. Are there any settings in the phone that i have to change/switch on to display on an external screen?
Thanks

Mine worked right out of the box. I used a Galaxy SII adapter. As soon as i connected HDMI, charger and phone, it switched to landscape mode and the picture showed up on the tv.
As far as i am aware, there are no settings on the phone to enable/disable MHL.

Did you plug the USB to charge ? It says no power > no video

Im using this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Smart-Adapter-Galaxy-Mobile/dp/B005MR82GA
Its working now. Was displaying a red X before. Didn't do anything other than just unplug and re plug everything

Can you tell me if I play movie on my TV by mhl cable, does it shows external subtitles (.srt)? And, can hox play movie on TV with phone screen of during.

flakz0r said:
Mine worked right out of the box. I used a Galaxy SII adapter. As soon as i connected HDMI, charger and phone, it switched to landscape mode and the picture showed up on the tv.
As far as i am aware, there are no settings on the phone to enable/disable MHL.
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cool! Is your tv full hd, and if so what res. do you get from the phone?

"Micro USB to HDMI® MHL Adapter - Black" - quick review
I just received the MHL adapter from MonoPrice, about $10 US:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8805&seq=1&format=2
The product description implies some phones can power the MHL adapter, with the One X you must supply power via a micro-USB charger. Be forewarned, the load may be a little higher than what some phone chargers can deliver; my EVO 4G charger would shut off after about 10 seconds, an old Nexus One charger worked fine.
Output is 1280x720 60Hz (should auto-adjust to the TV, don't have a PAL display here to confirm this). The Samsung HDTV was set to "Just Scan", meaning no scaling is done by the TV.
The resultant HDTV image is underscanned by about 35 pixels on each side, 20 pixels on top and bottom, resulting in a display area of 1210x680. I think this is a problem with the One X GPU drivers, and not the adapter because I doubt a simple device like this can do any scaling. At CES, I played with a few Transformer Primes running Shadowgun Multiplayer, mirrored to HDTVs at 1280x720, and there was no underscan, so this is likely not be a limitation of Tegra 3 GPU.
I got the red X once (displayed on the TV), afterwards it would not mirror the display to the TV until reset, so the connection handshaking is kinda finicky. I've been plugging the micro-USB power last, after the phone and the HDMI is connected and the phone is powered on. Sense should flip into landscape immediately, if not, something is wrong. If you power on after everything is connected, you should see the lock screen in portrait for a couple seconds, then it'll rotate. Sense works surprisingly well in landscape, I'm surprised that HTC didn't allow this mode without an MHL adapter connected.
There is a slight performance hit on the One X when display mirroring is active:
GLBenchmark 2.1.4, native display:
Egypt Standard: 48 fps
Pro Standard: 54
GLBenchmark 2.1.4, HDMI mirrored:
Egypt Standard: 42 fps
Pro Standard: 52 fps
If you want to demo a One X, play Shadowgun THD on a HDTV, it looks absolutely amazing. You are "playing blind" on a touchscreen, but once you get a feel for turning and shooting (right thumb), it's pretty easy. Ideally, this setup is screaming for a game controller, but I haven't come across a thread about this yet for the One X. Support for analog sticks has been in the OS since 3.1, so the keymapping utilities on the Market shouldn't be necessary, but I need to look into this further.
Note: the images were taken of the HDTV using a point-and-shoot and scaled to 720p, so you can see the degree of underscan (the unfiltered decimation is very visible in the fonts).

mertzi said:
cool! Is your tv full hd, and if so what res. do you get from the phone?
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The TV is full HD, the phone passes 720p through the adapter, looks like it's a direct mirror.
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themanson said:
Did you plug the USB to charge ? It says no power > no video
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Yeah, it doesnt work if you dont connect the power cable to the adapter.

And subtitles? Are they on the TV please?

Looking nice on the tv

milkobgd said:
And subtitles? Are they on the TV please?
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Everything you see on the phone is mirrored on the TV. If you are watching a movie with subtitles on the phone, you will obviously see them on the TV.
My best experience so far watching 720p & 1080p has been with MX Player, but a lot of people also use Dice and Mobo.

That was not the case with my sgs and tv out and as far as I know with sgs2 tv out via mhl. It's mirroring everything but subtitles.

hi i have two days htc one x and have two hdmi cable to tv but same result no signal what i do wrong i use this one please helpme

I bought a MHL adapter from Mobilefun and I get the phone picture on a my PC monitor, with a little pixel loss as described by rasterX.
However I tried looking at a video I recorded with the HOX. I played the recording using the stock player and MX player.
In both cases, the playback is too fast on HDMI, it's like pushing a fast forward button.
With MX player I tried the different options (hardware/software): hardware is too fast, software is variable: complex pictures are too slow to display, less complex pictures are shown faster but since the display time changes according to the picture, the software playback is useless.
I tried two different PC monitors, one is Philips with a DVI-HDMI adapter, the other a DELL with a direct HDMI input, results are the same for both. I'm in a 50Hz country (France) if ever this can have a side effect...
Anyone has similar issues with MHL?

I tried my Samsung MHL adapter and it worked. My TV resolution is 1366x768.
When I connect all cables (inclusing power of course) I get portrait screen on my TV. As soon as I play movie or game, it goes landscape. When back to homescreen, it's portrait. No issues in Diceplayer or MX Player. Worked in HW and Software. Software mode allows to see subtitles on TV.

Sound only out of one channel
I only seem to be getting audio out of the left channel. I've tried 2 MHL adapters, and 2 different HDMI cables with 2 different TVs.
What's going on!?

jammy1 said:
I only seem to be getting audio out of the left channel. I've tried 2 MHL adapters, and 2 different HDMI cables with 2 different TVs.
What's going on!?
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Can someone check to see if they are getting both channels please? I've also tried 3 different players.

jammy1 said:
Can someone check to see if they are getting both channels please? I've also tried 3 different players.
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HI Jammy, I will test it.
What player are you using? MXPlayer or stock. what sort of files?

jammy1 said:
Can someone check to see if they are getting both channels please? I've also tried 3 different players.
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I'm having the same problem, only left channel is working on TV over mhl adapter and if I plug headphones in one x 3.5 mm jack it is OK. I tried BS PLAYER and MX PLAYER.

Same symptom here!
hmm ... bug?

Samsung EPL-3PHP HDTV Adapter

Just received EPL-3PHP HDMI adapter from Amazon UK (£23.00) and happy to confirm working with my GT-N8010 with latest UK JB 4.1.2
Is it possible to attach a BT trackball/keyboard without a dongle, or somehow use an other adapter I can attach (possible by a double adapter)
Once connected to my TV the only way to change any input is via the Note.
Thanks

Could you please link me to that product at that price?
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damonsmith666 said:
Could you please link me to that product at that price?
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Hi Purchased from Amazon UK (seller was Amazon)http://http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0051D3KKI/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 actual price £23.55 but now looks like Amazon have suspended that item until they review a complaint, suggest you keep an eye on that link.
Surprised No has been able to answer my question regarding BT trackball!!!

If its a BT track ball I would think it will hook up just fine, same way a BT mouse would.

Just to let you know if you are in the UK with a HMV store nearby you can get these for £10. Picked up a couple last week.
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Hey there.
I do use my ps3 controller via Bluetooth while my note is connected through the docking station.
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xe0r said:
Hey there.
I do use my ps3 controller via Bluetooth while my note is connected through the docking station.
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Hi which one do you have, how do you connect it to the tablet, I assume its just Bluetooth no dongle, thanks.:good:

Simple the original one:
http://www.amazon.de/PlayStation-Du...HY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1362585611&sr=8-10
bought it when it was on amazon for 35€ incl. shipping!!! nice deal i thought. I do connect it with the app "sixaxxis" (bluetooth). Requires root though, but pretty nice app. Now i can play all the games of my childhood: zelda (oot, n64), tekken (psx) without the need to install the damn ugly consoles in my living room .. thats just awesome!!
After installing the app I noticed that you can emulate a mouse. That is very useful to me for streaming movies from my server, look something up on imdb and so on with the hdmi adapter...
any more questions? ?

xe0r said:
Simple the original one:
http://www.amazon.de/PlayStation-Du...HY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1362585611&sr=8-10
bought it when it was on amazon for 35€ incl. shipping!!! nice deal i thought. I do connect it with the app "sixaxxis" (bluetooth). Requires root though, but pretty nice app. Now i can play all the games of my childhood: zelda (oot, n64), tekken (psx) without the need to install the damn ugly consoles in my living room .. thats just awesome!!
After installing the app I noticed that you can emulate a mouse. That is very useful to me for streaming movies from my server, look something up on imdb and so on with the hdmi adapter...
any more questions? ?
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Thanks, not rooted, do not want to go in that direction, so am I correct in assuming you can only connect bt directly to tablet when you root it, otherwise I need a dongle??
So no way of having it connect to bt when using the hdmi adapter, bummer.

Question: Is the HDMI output lag-free, do the homescreens run smooth and is the image quality okay?
I just sent back the wireless allshare adapter because the streamed image has 15FPS when not buffered, the quality is worse than i expected and it ends every multitasking capability of the Note.

CentaXx said:
Question: Is the HDMI output lag-free, do the homescreens run smooth and is the image quality okay?
I just sent back the wireless allshare adapter because the streamed image has 15FPS when not buffered, the quality is worse than i expected and it ends every multitasking capability of the Note.
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No issues with lag, quality, home screen as normal.

CentaXx said:
I just sent back the wireless allshare adapter because ... the quality is worse than i expected ...
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WillWord said:
No issues with ... quality [on the wired HDMI adaptor]
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Well, keep in mind the ASCD won't mess with the resolution or color depth of the image displayed on the LCD, so if you see video quality issues (bad scaling or graininess or such) it's likely due to what your TV does with the not-quite 720P resolution of the signal from the Note 10.1 (1280x720 isn't a native resolution of most monitors and likely scales it to 1366x768), so I'm betting that the picture via the HDMI hard-wired cable will look the same (on static images) as did the picture from the ASCD.

Got mine here:
http://www.shop.bt.com/products/sam...pin-dock-connector-m--19pinhdmi--f--89W1.html
Deliver y delayed apparently but still a good price
xda premium hd is rubbish

New 2013 model of HDTV Adapter?
I'm shopping around for an HDTV Adapter for my GT-N8010 at the moment, and I've noticed that several online shops are advertising a new 2013 model - EPL-NPHPBKG.
e.g. - www dot amazon dot com /Original-Samsung-Genuine-EPL-NPHPBKG-EPL-3PHPBEG/dp/B00B8NJ6E4
They claim that it is the next verson of EPL-3PHPBEG (the model that this thread is about). Does anyone know what the difference is? The only thing I can see that might be an improvement is "Simultaneously charge your Galaxy Note 10.1 while streaming". I've seen reports on other threads about their tablet not charging while plugged in to the HDTV adapter. Can you confirm if this functionality exists on your EPL-3PHP?
-Matt

mattphi said:
I'm shopping around for an HDTV Adapter for my GT-N8010 at the moment, and I've noticed that several online shops are advertising a new 2013 model - EPL-NPHPBKG.
e.g. - www dot amazon dot com /Original-Samsung-Genuine-EPL-NPHPBKG-EPL-3PHPBEG/dp/B00B8NJ6E4
They claim that it is the next verson of EPL-3PHPBEG (the model that this thread is about). Does anyone know what the difference is? The only thing I can see that might be an improvement is "Simultaneously charge your Galaxy Note 10.1 while streaming". I've seen reports on other threads about their tablet not charging while plugged in to the HDTV adapter. Can you confirm if this functionality exists on your EPL-3PHP?
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Ah. See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166540

Hi,
I dont know the id of my hdtv adapter but as far as i own it since the early days of my previous tab 10.1 (p7500) I am pretty sure it's the "old" one.
I can confirm the adapter is definetly charging my n8000 while connected to my tv behind the docking station (universal samsung), streaming .mkv from my ubuntu desktop / server machine and being controlley by emulated mouse with my ps3 gamepad (via sixaxxis).
Sure you won't win a speed challange with that configuration but the main point is it is charging. I guess about ~ 2..3 % / 0,5..1,0 h (never did a measurement ) but still charging. Thats pretty nice because sometimes when I come home from university and the battery is nearly empty (sometimes 2 days of usage with a single charge) I plug my note into the docking station, let it charge to 3 or 4 %, turn it on and start streaming. When I end the day and shut down the tv the note is at about ~10% and ready to get charged the whole night.

xe0r said:
Simple the original one:
http://www.amazon.de/PlayStation-Du...HY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1362585611&sr=8-10
bought it when it was on amazon for 35€ incl. shipping!!! nice deal i thought. I do connect it with the app "sixaxxis" (bluetooth). Requires root though, but pretty nice app. Now i can play all the games of my childhood: zelda (oot, n64), tekken (psx) without the need to install the damn ugly consoles in my living room .. thats just awesome!!
After installing the app I noticed that you can emulate a mouse. That is very useful to me for streaming movies from my server, look something up on imdb and so on with the hdmi adapter...
any more questions? ?
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Looks good!

Update, just purchased apple Magic Trackpad looks like it works on my Tablet, No Dongle just Pin number input for connecting, so in theory I will be able to use it to control Note 10.1 whilst connected via HDMI adapter to TV, will confirm when it arrives this week.

Just received my EPL-3PHPBEG from Expansys. It was not the most expensive, but dirt cheap either. It works. It says it is for the Tab 10. The price on this seems to vary wildly with the cheaper ones (19-25$) all seeming to be out of stock, except today went back to Amazon and the Zeeestmm version now seems to be in stock and going for 29.00$
It works for my purpose - Powerpoint and other document projection. It does need to be powered, and the tab needs to be rebooted at least for the projector to recognize it. So it's working fine on my Tab Note 10.1.
What chaps me about Samsung, it the myriad of numbers and letters, all a bit different, but all seeming to be the same item. I thought it was bad with the phones and tabs, but it is beyond annoying with accessories.

kcrudup said:
Well, keep in mind the ASCD won't mess with the resolution or color depth of the image displayed on the LCD, so if you see video quality issues (bad scaling or graininess or such) it's likely due to what your TV does with the not-quite 720P resolution of the signal from the Note 10.1 (1280x720 isn't a native resolution of most monitors and likely scales it to 1366x768), so I'm betting that the picture via the HDMI hard-wired cable will look the same (on static images) as did the picture from the ASCD.
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Thanks for the reminder. Probably the image will look not better than before. However, it was not a difficult decision why i sent the Allshare Cast Hub back to amazon. For 60€ it's just to much for what it would have been for me. Ending all MultiWindow possibilities is probably the worst part. Well, with the HDMI cable i won't be able to connect USB anymore .. so everything has pros and cons. For what it offers, the wireless adapter was just too expensive and i was really annoyed that it was never remarked on ANY website i read that it ends multitasking features of the Note 10.1.

Question about hooking up to my TV via hdmi and not getting full screen.

Has anyone found a way to hook up their tablet to their TV with full display? I bought an hdmi adapter but it has a black bar on each side not covering the whole TV display. My note 10.1 2013 version didn't have this problem.

I have the same issue and haven't found a solution so far. What makes it worse, it defaults to a 1080i 24hz signal which is very noticeably laggy especially when gaming. And the colors are bad. Makes no sense, the note 10.1 should have 0 issue pushing 1080p/60hz when it does usually alot more than that.
what we need is hdmi options. I also want to be able to turn off the screen of my tablet when it's outputting to the TV.

Exactly!!! I even bought an hdmi cable that plugs into power and it's not charging the tablet at all. I also would love if you could shut the tablet off while doing so. Do you think the samsumg all cast wirele hub is the answer? For now anyway? Correct me if im wrong but doesnt it fix all problems were discussing except the "covering the whole screen" part? Well and slight lag... man this sucks... how is this tablet not as supported as the 1st generation one? Lame...
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I did some testing today and it really grinds my gears... I have a 3rd party adapter 5 in 1 (hdmi, usb, sd card, micro sd, micro usb) standard 5 pin mhl and an adapter for 11 pin mhl.
-my wife's galaxy s2 works perfectly with the 5 pin. Outputs full 1080p / 60hz smooth and responsive.
-My sgs3 doesn't work at all with the adapter (4.3 stock), it starts charging but there is no image on the screen.
-my note 10.1 2014 works but it outputs 1080p / 24hz and it has a really bad delay that makes it impossible to play games, and of course 24 fps is laggy as ****. And of course it has black boarders on the side.
I can't believe that there isn't a settings menu for hdmi. Even my old transformer tf201 had one. And you get the best experience with the 4 year old sgs2(running 4.2). Unbelievable.

clouds5 said:
I did some testing today and it really grinds my gears... I have a 3rd party adapter 5 in 1 (hdmi, usb, sd card, micro sd, micro usb) standard 5 pin mhl and an adapter for 11 pin mhl.
-my wife's galaxy s2 works perfectly with the 5 pin. Outputs full 1080p / 60hz smooth and responsive.
-My sgs3 doesn't work at all with the adapter (4.3 stock), it starts charging but there is no image on the screen.
-my note 10.1 2014 works but it outputs 1080p / 24hz and it has a really bad delay that makes it impossible to play games, and of course 24 fps is laggy as ****. And of course it has black boarders on the side.
I can't believe that there isn't a settings menu for hdmi. Even my old transformer tf201 had one. And you get the best experience with the 4 year old sgs2(running 4.2). Unbelievable.
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Its extremely frustrating... I don't know if it will ever get fixed... That's one of the main uses for my tablet too.

RussellEstridge25 said:
Exactly!!! I even bought an hdmi cable that plugs into power and it's not charging the tablet at all. I also would love if you could shut the tablet off while doing so. Do you think the samsumg all cast wirele hub is the answer? For now anyway? Correct me if im wrong but doesnt it fix all problems were discussing except the "covering the whole screen" part? Well and slight lag... man this sucks... how is this tablet not as supported as the 1st generation one? Lame...
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AllShare Cast...
1080P MKV...
720P Google Play movie...
Plain old screen mirroring...

BarryH_GEG said:
AllShare Cast...
1080P MKV...
720P Google Play movie...
Plain old screen mirroring...
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ok... so whats the conclusion here...

RussellEstridge25 said:
ok... so whats the conclusion here...
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I've never used a physical adapter so can't really draw one. AllShare Cast works really well on the N10.1-14, a lot faster than my old N10.1-12. Video apps that were barely usable on the '12 are no problem on the '14. I'm not a big gamer so perhaps someone who is and uses AllShare Cast can comment.

BarryH_GEG said:
I've never used a physical adapter so can't really draw one. AllShare Cast works really well on the N10.1-14, a lot faster than my old N10.1-12. Video apps that were barely usable on the '12 are no problem on the '14. I'm not a big gamer so perhaps someone who is and uses AllShare Cast can comment.
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Thanks for the info. Does it cover your whole TV screen? I can't really tell in the pics. I don't game on my tablet trying to look at a TV lol I personally think that's kinda dumb. I have a ps3 and games on my tablet that I just play on my tablet.

RussellEstridge25 said:
Thanks for the info. Does it cover your whole TV screen? I can't really tell in the pics. I don't game on my tablet trying to look at a TV lol I personally think that's kinda dumb. I have a ps3 and games on my tablet that I just play on my tablet.
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The TV's got a black frame so it's hard to see. I'd say the picture being mirrored is 100% with some small bars on the sides that are necessary to adjust 16:10 to 16:9. I've noticed nothing distorted in any of the apps/content I've viewed.

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Here's another question, I just hooked my tablet up to my ps3 via bluetooth and it will allow me to share video, pic's, and music. But I have some videos downloaded and put them in that folder where the ps3 is looking for them. I rebooted and the ps3 still does not see the video. its an mp4 so Im not sure if I need to convert it to a different format or what. Anyone have any insight on that? Im still new to the ps3 as I just got it a few months back.

I'm not prepared to pay for another 70-80$ device (that's what allshare costs where i live) to get a good image... This tablet is a highly advanced device and i expect hdmi out to work. As I said it works very well on the 4 year old sgs2 why would it work worse on a 2014 device?

BarryH_GEG said:
The TV's got a black frame so it's hard to see. I'd say the picture being mirrored is 100% with some small bars on the sides that are necessary to adjust 16:10 to 16:9. I've noticed nothing distorted in any of the apps/content I've viewed.
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So, can I mirror onto my 60inch vizio with the all share wireless hub?

clouds5 said:
I'm not prepared to pay for another 70-80$ device (that's what allshare costs where i live) to get a good image... This tablet is a highly advanced device and i expect hdmi out to work. As I said it works very well on the 4 year old sgs2 why would it work worse on a 2014 device?
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I agree that's a lot more money for something other cheaper devices already do. You go on a still keep your tablet?
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RussellEstridge25 said:
Here's another question, I just hooked my tablet up to my ps3 via bluetooth and it will allow me to share video, pic's, and music. But I have some videos downloaded and put them in that folder where the ps3 is looking for them. I rebooted and the ps3 still does not see the video. its an mp4 so Im not sure if I need to convert it to a different format or what. Anyone have any insight on that? Im still new to the ps3 as I just got it a few months back.
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EDIT: Never mind. I got it all to work. So I guess thats my work around for now. Im just going to use my ps3 to view the videos I want. Not the ideal solution but it beats spending more money! Hopefully something gets figured out in the mean time. I shouldn't have to rely on a ps3 for this type of thing on such an awesome device.