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Hello and happy holidays to everyone.
I am running VaelPak 3.0 and have removed some unwanted apps that I don't use/need.
If I flash an updated version of the ROM, I will get all these apps back. My question is, is there a way I can save my phone's image as it is now so that I do not have to remove those apps manually again the next time?
Any advice will be highly appreciated.
cant you just backup your nand??
or use titanium backup..
xtrubambinoxpr said:
cant you just backup your nand??
or use titanium backup..
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I do nand backups, but haven't restored them yet.
Won't it just put the old apps (backed up apps) back in place and not delete the new apps that the updated ROM added?
Thanks,
i removed all the app i didnt want with titanium back up THEN did a nand backup and it restored from the point i was (without the things i wanted) so i guess you can do that..
just take the nand backup you already have and save that backup on your comp in case something ever happens..
then do another one with the corrections and updates you did and that the one without all the bulk..
thats what i did..
xtrubambinoxpr said:
i removed all the app i didnt want with titanium back up THEN did a nand backup and it restored from the point i was (without the things i wanted) so i guess you can do that..
just take the nand backup you already have and save that backup on your comp in case something ever happens..
then do another one with the corrections and updates you did and that the one without all the bulk..
thats what i did..
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I will try that and update the post on how it works out.
Thanks.
They will come back forget doing nands or titanium that's the hard way. Just get an app that allows you to remove apps from your phone. I use this simple app called root manager its easy as pie and I just remove what I don't want again. Titanium can also do this I think but its not user friendly for me lol
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yea titanium confused me at first too.. a little to complicated and still is..
i was just saying if u wanted to do the nand backup of your new and improved system its easier..
and since we on the topic of backups and removal..
any apps that can backup ALL apps and data and restore them because im about to unroot to root using Toast method so i have nand unlocked..
while I haven't tried this...so try at your own risk. In the .zip file, clean out everything you don't want and leave only the stuff you want new, or updated. That SHOULD keep them from installing to the phone when flashing. once those are gone, just flash like normal.
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while I haven't tried this...so try at your own risk. In the .zip file, clean out everything you don't want and leave only the stuff you want new, or updated. That SHOULD keep them from installing to the phone when flashing. once those are gone, just flash like normal.
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Isn't the file signed? I will have to sign it again, right?
I think I will just write a script and run it after flashing a new ROM every time.
Thanks,
I don't know if it would remove the signature or not...worth a try. Let me look real quick. there's already a tool out for signing files...at least it would save you some key strokes.
edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794132&highlight=sign+files
Hi guys .. I have had my Desire Z for a little while and I want to play around with ROMs now ... I am looking for a way to make a *full* backup of the phone .. That means the OS itself, all its settings (alarms, personalization stuff, stored passwords, installed apps, etc ..), all application and personal data (both on ROM and SD card), etc ...
That is, one backup that when restored, returns the complete phone including all its settings and data to the state the phone was in when the backup was created ..
Now there are two Market tools I've found that claim to do something similar: My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, and I also hear that ClockWorkMod can create backups ...
But I don't know if these tools backup *everything* like I want, so any advice given here would be really appreciated ..
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
ahmadka said:
Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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Hmm ... Are you absolutely sure that CWM backs up everything ? That is, the stock ROM, all my android's settings, sms, contacts, emails, list of apps installed, app data, my personal data (photos, videos, music, documents, etc ..) ? And does it also backup data from both the built-in memory and stuff on the SD card ?
Reason why I ask this is because this afternoon I came across a thread (can't seem to find it now) where somebody said CWM leaves some stuff out in backing up and then somebody else suggested using Titanium Backup ...
So I want to proceed with CWM only if you're dead sure that it backs up *everyyyyyythinggggg* ...
Btw, I don't mean to question to knowledge, I just want to be sure, thats all
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Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
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+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
vikraam said:
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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When you root you will still be using your stock ROM, you then back up your stock rooted ROM. There is no way to back up an unrooted ROM.
Unrooted stock ROM's are available in the form of an official RUU most of which you will find if you read the stickies in the development section of the forums.
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ahmadka said:
Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
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Titanium will not back up the os, you can use to back up all of the system apps and data. But as a previous poster said this is not good a good idea as restoring them tends to be problematic.
And don't worry about your sdcard flashing roms will not affect any data on your sdcard.
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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ahmadka said:
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the only thing you could theoretically lose are photos, videos, etc that are stored on the sdcard... but this would only happen if you deleted/formatted the sd card. otherwise, they just move with you from rom to rom.
I don't know what people think titanium backup is for, but seriously... it's not as magnificent as it is commonly made out to be. its only real use is restoring stuff from /data (ie apps and settings). even then, it is known to be problematic. I have used it in the past but I finally got sick of it when I realized that half of the time I used it to backup/restore it ended up doing more harm than good.
CWM is the best option for making a full backup of EVERYTHING on your phone (remember, your sd card is not part of your phone... it doesn't get backed up/restored via CWM). restoring a CWM backup will revert your phone to the exact state it was in at the time of the backup.
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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that's awesome, but you will encounter problems with Ti backup if you try to restore anything from /system after installing a new rom. if you've come from one aosp rom to another, you might get lucky and not have any trouble (especially if they are a similar flavor of aosp), but if you try to restore anything from a sense rom's /system to an aosp rom's /system, or vice versa, you're in for a lot of force closing and general bass-ackwardness.
op: the BEST way is a nandroid backup. if you try and restore titanium backup apps and settings over whichever rom you've installed, you can almost guarantee something will be broken... just do it the right way and do a nandroid backup via CWM and save yourself the trouble.
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Not much really, there are apps available to back up sms and contacts will be synced to Google.
todo backup by easeus...free too. works great
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1) Root.
2) Install CWM Recovery.
3) Nandroid.
There's your backup.
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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A nandroid back does a complete back of system, apps, data, and settings. When you restore a nandroid your phone will be restored to the exact point it was at before you preformed the nandroid.
To back up apps and data, you will need to use an app like titanium backup. you then can restore apps and data, including game save and scores after you flash a new rom.
But it is not advised to back up and restore system data and settings with titanium back up
before i rooted i took backups whit MyBackup.
after you get rooted, take Clean CWM backup of your phone.
when you are up and running on a custom rom, take CWM backup, and back up downloaded apps whit Titanium backup.
If you are going from sense rom to sense rom, you dont necessaryli need to wipe your data and apps, so you don't have to restore anything. If you are going for completely different rom, you need wipe everything, after you are running in new rom, you cant get just the apps from cwm backup, it would restore your old rom too, so now restore your apps and stuff from TI backups. and if you don't like the new rom, use CWM backup to go back to your last rom.
so you need both backups cwm and Ti..
and as said before app backups might cause some problems when going from rom to rom
I have been jumping between different MIUI roms, they are basically the same so i haven't wiped anything(except dalvik cache) when flashing new rom, so everything will stay the way they are, and no ned to restore anything, if that's the case.
What comes to the stuff on SDcard, it will be just fine, if you want to back up your pics/music/vids, etc from your sdcard, just copy them to your computer.
Hi there!
I hope i'm not opening a repeated thread. I've search ( not correctly i think ) but i couldn't find any significant answer.
I've recently installed MIUI on my defy...
Now i want to install cyanogenmod and i'd like to know whether i can flash over miui without losing any data nor app.
Or should i have to downgrade to Froyo, lose ( surely i'll do a backup ) all my data, root my phone, install SndInit Defy and flash cm7?
Thus, what i have to do?
Thanks,
regards.
carlo93 said:
Hi there!
I hope i'm not opening a repeated thread. I've search ( not correctly i think ) but i couldn't find any significant answer.
I've recently installed MIUI on my defy...
Now i want to install cyanogenmod and i'd like to know whether i can flash over miui without losing any data nor app.
Or should i have to downgrade to Froyo, lose ( surely i'll do a backup ) all my data, root my phone, install SndInit Defy and flash cm7?
Thus, what i have to do?
Thanks,
regards.
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Well.. it won't brick your phone if you try to install the rom just by applying and wiping cache/dalvik only. I wouldn't recommend it, but you could give it a try. Do a backup first.
But despite that, I don't see that making a backup of the important apps and data via Titanium and applying that afterwards is so much work.
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I don't see that making a backup of the important apps and data via Titanium and applying that afterwards is so much work.
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You see, the problem is that once i try to restore all apps from Titanium, it always ask the permission ( i.e. if i want to install the app or not )! It doesn't do a silent-install.
It's such a boring thing tapping "Install" for over 60 times :\.
Am i wrong or is there a way to do a silent restore of all backups?
Wipe data and cache from Custom Recovery and then flash CM7 without rebooting after wiping.
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carlo93 said:
You see, the problem is that once i try to restore all apps from Titanium, it always ask the permission ( i.e. if i want to install the app or not )! It doesn't do a silent-install.
It's such a boring thing tapping "Install" for over 60 times :\.
Am i wrong or is there a way to do a silent restore of all backups?
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In Titanium Backup, Menu > Batch > ...
badeaioan said:
Wipe data and cache from Custom Recovery and then flash CM7 without rebooting after wiping.
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I'll try it.
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In Titanium Backup, Menu > Batch > ...
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Yes, from there!
I choose to restore all lost apps + data, he always ask me if i want to install any single app...
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I've read that only Titanium Backup Pro has this feature... I'm disappointed :\.
i wanted to know this too.
i am on cm7 and updating it is a cake.... i wanted to know if i can do the same interchangeably with cMIUI.
since both the roms are still developing. trying each and restoring backup is a pain.
any advice?
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i wanted to know this too.
i am on cm7 and updating it is a cake.... i wanted to know if i can do the same interchangeably with cMIUI.
since both the roms are still developing. trying each and restoring backup is a pain.
any advice?
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I have used both and I am currently coming back to CM7.
MIUI is somewhat frustrating for me, constant forceclose on the most basic apps and every update requires some kind of retinkering to get it back to work correctly (like reinstalling gapps and Ti).
Also, i dont like the stock MIUI apps such as dialer, messenger and contacts. I know that I can replace them but its a custom ROM and it think it should be optimal out of the box. I can deal with replacing one but at least three are too many for me.
I know this wasnt supposed to be a review but i wouldn't bother replacing CM7 with MIUI.
Hey folks
I am new to all this with rooting, flashing and so on, and i think it's exciting and awesome, so thanks to all the develepors, and the other guys who keeps this scene running!
I got a few questions about TI backup, that i need answered.. I have searched around the forum for a while, and can't find any exact answers to my questions..
With my phone rooted.. What would you guys go after, the free or the full version of TI backup, and why?
Whats the differences between the free and full?
I have also searched a bit round on the official users guide, and Wiki on TI backups homepage, but it's confusing i think..
And how is it with backup, flashing other roms and so on?
I now have the HoneySense rom flashed, and TI backup..
Can i take a backup of my sms messages, my app's, and their settings, and then flash another rom, and get the **** moved to the new rom?
And how does that work in practice?
- do i have to install TI backup on the new rom after flashing, or is there anyway that it could be installed with the rom, or how works that?
Finally, i got a question about ClockworkMod, since i can't find much information about the app on their homepage..
I got CWM installed,but what is is exactly? Is it somekind of bootloader, or?
And will CWM dissapear from my phone when flashing?
When i flashed to HoneySense, i did it with CWM, but that was also some kind of bootloader?
I really appreciate your time, and your willing to help
Thank you
giusdk said:
I really appreciate your time, and your willing to help
Thank you
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Titanium Backup Pro has more features included, but i didnt need them already... if you use it to backup and restore your system and apps and you decide to flash a different ROM, you should only restore Apps, not Data... thats a choice you can make in Restore menue... i'm talking about your User-Apps, i never restored System-Apps or Data after a clean install of an ROM...
Greets Steffen
Thanks for the answer already
Do you know more about it?
Could any action taken in TI backup cause the phone to crash and brick?
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The Pro version because you can batch restore, otherwise you have to restore apps individually.
You can restore the apps data as well, but not recommended across totally different roms, definitely do not restore system apps and data, anything in red. This might include SMS data (red), up to you to try. Other alternatives would be use other app such as GoSMS Pro (free) Edit: has backup option, or My Backup Root.
There might be a chance of force closes etc, if you've not followed the above, but never heard of anyone actually bricking their device. Worst case is having to restore a full backup made in ClockworkMod Recovery.
I use both CWM and TB Pro prior to flashing any new ROM. Also keep a copy on the PC just in case the sdcard has a bad day.
Don't forget to wipe dalvik cache in CWM after TB restore and reboot. It may take a few minutes to boot up, but don't worry.
If your Market doesn't show all your apps, try deleting market cache, reboot clearing dalvik, and use TB Pro to "restore market links" found somewhere in the menu. If still doesn't show all, TB recommends try downloading a new app then check again.
Edit: CWM is just a custom recovery. Has many more options than stock, allowing a full system backup and restore, also known as a nan / nandroid backup, similar to a ghost / image of your system. Can be used and updated through an app called ROM Manager, which is really just an interface / GUI for CWM (among other things).
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I only got a sec or I'd answer more ????s.
I use the paid version simply cuz after using the free for so long and it saving me so much time and grief, i felt it only right to buy the full version. Plus the dev (joel) is awesome at direct support. Plus, on full version, you can make multiple backups of an app (for newer versions, etc) .
I would use a diff app for backup texts. Sms backup/restore is good, and free. And that way, you wont have to restore system app and data with Ti (which can cause issues)
Also, I Dont use CWM, I use amonRA, but yes, you will still have it after flashing a new rom, kernel, or theme. It is on a partition that goes untouched across flashes.
Ti, is an excellent tool.
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Additionally:
Most custom roms have TB Free, but you will need to restore your Pro key first and reboot, that is if you want to batch restore the rest of your apps and or data etc. Otherwise it's one by one.
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That was fast.. and usefull!
Thank you guys, that made it a lot more easy..
How do i clear the dalvik cache?
The CWM is a recovery tool.. So that if something goes wrong in a flash, i can recover by using CWM?
And to do that, i will need to take a Rom Backup, in CMW..
When i press the Backup Rom button i CWM, my phone restarts and boots into CWM interface, and backs up everything.. Where is that file stored, so i can move to my pc, and have the backup an extra place?
About the market problem.. I do almost only have paid apps, so when i login to market with my google account, they automaticly shows up under my bought app's..
Thank you so much for the help so far
giusdk said:
That was fast.. and usefull!
Thank you guys, that made it a lot more easy..
How do i clear the dalvik cache?
The CWM is a recovery tool.. So that if something goes wrong in a flash, i can recover by using CWM?
And to do that, i will need to take a Rom Backup, in CMW..
When i press the Backup Rom button i CWM, my phone restarts and boots into CWM interface, and backs up everything.. Where is that file stored, so i can move to my pc, and have the backup an extra place?
About the market problem.. I do almost only have paid apps, so when i login to market with my google account, they automaticly shows up under my bought app's..
Thank you so much for the help so far
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You can wipe dalvik cache from a menu within CWM Recovery, or several apps, including TB . TB / Menu / More / .....
Just backup using menu inside CWM Recovery or from within ROM Manager (uses CWM Recovery) before flashing any ROM. So if you don't like the new Rom or have issues, you can boot into recovery and restore.
Most custom ROMs have an advanced power menu allowing you to reboot directly into CWM Recovery, or you can from ROM Manager or from the Bootloader menu.
All CWM Recovery backups are saved to the sdcard / clockworkmod / backup
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Titanium backs up your apps and app data and some system data. While recovery backs up/restores your current ROM image, meaning back up will restore everything up to the second you backed up even the way you place your apps
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Thank you so much. That was answers to all my questions.. For now
At some later point when i am much more into all this, i am considering making a thread, with info to all the new people in the forum, like me, who don't know what the Dalvik is, and a little about what the kernel is and why it is there.. All the small but usefull stuff, that aren't on the XDA Wiki page about DHD..
A big dictionary
That could be usefull i think..
Thanks a lot for you time
U can also try MyBackup Pro which is an excellent alternative to Titanium.
giusdk said:
Thank you so much. That was answers to all my questions.. For now
At some later point when i am much more into all this, i am considering making a thread, with info to all the new people in the forum, like me, who don't know what the Dalvik is, and a little about what the kernel is and why it is there.. All the small but usefull stuff, that aren't on the XDA Wiki page about DHD..
A big dictionary
That could be usefull i think..
Thanks a lot for you time
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So, now i got better time, and i do understand a lot more of it.
Are anybody in for helping me making such a dictionary?
I will do mostly everything, just need some who knows more than me, to read it and tell me if somethings wrong or missing
Thank you
Hey guys, I need your help. Will the phone reset to defaults if I flashed an ftf to my phone? I was just making sure because I don't want to lose all the save files on my games. I can't root it yet (because it is in 4.0.1.a.0.62, that's why I need to flash it with .42) so I can't use titanium backup. Please help.
If it will delete all the data on the phone or there aren't any available methods to avoid it, well aren't there any apps for backing up my games that will include the data with the app? Thanks
tajhai said:
Hey guys, I need your help. Will the phone reset to defaults if I flashed an ftf to my phone? I was just making sure because I don't want to lose all the save files on my games. I can't root it yet (because it is in 4.0.1.a.0.62, that's why I need to flash it with .42) so I can't use titanium backup. Please help.
If it will delete all the data on the phone or there aren't any available methods to avoid it, well aren't there any apps for backing up my games that will include the data with the app? Thanks
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Yes flashing a FTF file will wipe your phone to factory settings, the only data that will remain is whatever you have on your SD card.
As for rooting I'd try superoneclick, just in case, it might work. If not I think your best bet would be downloading Androzip from the store, navigating to the backup tag and back up your apps NOTE: I DON"T THINK THIS WILL BACK UP YOUR APP DATA SO BE WARNED.
Oh? Aren't there any apps that can backup my apps including its save data? I can't root it on superoneclick, even doomlord's zergrush. I'm gonna think about it first. Or do some research for new ways to backup these.
Thanks anyway
tajhai said:
Oh? Aren't there any apps that can backup my apps including its save data? I can't root it on superoneclick, even doomlord's zergrush. I'm gonna think about it first. Or do some research for new ways to backup these.
Thanks anyway
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I think .62 is now rootable will search the forums and let you know
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Oh? Aren't there any apps that can backup my apps including its save data? I can't root it on superoneclick, even doomlord's zergrush. I'm gonna think about it first. Or do some research for new ways to backup these.
Thanks anyway
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found http://forgottencoders.co.uk/thread-27.html but am confused if .62 is rootable or not
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found http://forgottencoders.co.uk/thread-27.html but am confused if .62 is rootable or not
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I think the title is misleading? It is just the same way how I root my phone but still it is stuck on step 7. I guess there's no other way except from downgrading it to .42 or .58. I was trying to flash the .42 ftf on fastboot a while ago, and there are checkboxes that says clear cache, clear data and clear user data, but ticking those boxes didn't help at all. I have no choice but to wipe all my progress. Thanks anyway.
tajhai said:
Oh? Aren't there any apps that can backup my apps including its save data? I can't root it on superoneclick, even doomlord's zergrush. I'm gonna think about it first. Or do some research for new ways to backup these.
Thanks anyway
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Only ay to backup an app and it's data is titanium backup and or a nandroid backup
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