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Whats a "general guide" when changing ROMS? I Have titanium backup installed on my Android. I wouldnt like to go thru configuring everything again and most importantly would like to keep my applications, settings, sync, calanadar, contacts, messages, etc....
These are the steps that I usually take when flashing a new rom.
1. NANDroid backup of the current running ROM
2. Complete flash (Data, Davlik, Battery, Cache)
3. Flash new ROM and boot
4. Go through the configuration screens (if any) and land on the homescreen
5. Perform a complete reboot (no fastboot from HTC, make sure it's a complete shut down and reboot)
6. Sync contacts and calendar from Gmail
7. Sync Facebook (if applicable)
8. Redownload apps and reconfigure
I am not a fan of Titanium for restoring settings and configuration if going to another dev or another ROM. It's fine if you are reflashing the same ROM, but I find stories of people who have tried to restore their configuration settings with Titanium and have headaches. Better to just take the time to reconfigure manually than to cut corners. I do, however, use Titanium to give me a good and complete list of the apps I have installed so that I can go and redownload them from market.
Have fun!
I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
Nandroid the original stock(duh)
If you are on a rom u like nandroid before trying another
But if you don't like the rom and are going to flash something else then what's the point to back it up? Plus they will start filling up your sd card
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Spastic909 said:
I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
Nandroid the original stock(duh)
If you are on a rom u like nandroid before trying another
But if you don't like the rom and are going to flash something else then what's the point to back it up? Plus they will start filling up your sd card
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You back it up incase the new rom does not work, so you have something to fall back to! I only keep my backups for a day then there deleted (Apart from the stock rom)
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Spastic909 said:
I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
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Well, my belief is that you should always backup before flashing just so you can always get back where you started. I can see your point if you use a rom for just a few hours and then go to something else, but anything more than that... It's only a few minutes wait.
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tronmech said:
Well, my belief is that you should always backup before flashing just so you can always get back where you started. I can see your point if you use a rom for just a few hours and then go to something else, but anything more than that... It's only a few minutes wait.
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Yep, totally agree. Also, I only keep 1 nandroid or so on my SD, and move others to my PC.
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I do, however, use Titanium to give me a good and complete list of the apps I have installed so that I can go and redownload them from market.
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Is there a way to generate this list?
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Is there a way to generate this list?
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I use titanium backup (free version) and have never had a problem. Just backup your apps and there is your list when you flash a new rom and redownload titanium. Then you can choose which apps you want to reload by choosing "batch" which makes it easier to reinstall all the apps quickly.
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I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
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Seems like a waste of time till you have a botched flash. It takes 5 min to backup, and saves you a TON of time if something messes up.
For OP:
1) Go to Titanium Backup, backup all apps (not system data, unless moving from one ROM to a fresh version of the same ROM).
2) Enter recovery
3) Make Nandroid backup. It will automatically be given a date and generic name (rename when you get back into ROM Manager)
4) Wipe cache/dalvik data/Factory reset
5) Flash new ROM, applicable kernels you want, etc.
6) Boot, install TB, restore apps (NOT system data!)
7) Fix permissions with ROM Manager, Reboot, etc. as the ROM requires.
Like I said, the only way you can keep your settings, etc. is if you're backing up from a ROM and returning to the same ROM. Don't try to backup system data from a Sense build and restoring it to an AOSP build. Just gonna have to deal with reconfiguring your system it'll save you hassles of incompatibility. Contacts should be syncing to your main Gmail account, so once you add that to the new ROM everything will be imported back. As far as saving SMS and MMS, there are different apps for that.
Hi guys .. I have had my Desire Z for a little while and I want to play around with ROMs now ... I am looking for a way to make a *full* backup of the phone .. That means the OS itself, all its settings (alarms, personalization stuff, stored passwords, installed apps, etc ..), all application and personal data (both on ROM and SD card), etc ...
That is, one backup that when restored, returns the complete phone including all its settings and data to the state the phone was in when the backup was created ..
Now there are two Market tools I've found that claim to do something similar: My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, and I also hear that ClockWorkMod can create backups ...
But I don't know if these tools backup *everything* like I want, so any advice given here would be really appreciated ..
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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Hmm ... Are you absolutely sure that CWM backs up everything ? That is, the stock ROM, all my android's settings, sms, contacts, emails, list of apps installed, app data, my personal data (photos, videos, music, documents, etc ..) ? And does it also backup data from both the built-in memory and stuff on the SD card ?
Reason why I ask this is because this afternoon I came across a thread (can't seem to find it now) where somebody said CWM leaves some stuff out in backing up and then somebody else suggested using Titanium Backup ...
So I want to proceed with CWM only if you're dead sure that it backs up *everyyyyyythinggggg* ...
Btw, I don't mean to question to knowledge, I just want to be sure, thats all
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Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
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Root + Titanium Backup.
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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mmb_z said:
+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
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Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
vikraam said:
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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When you root you will still be using your stock ROM, you then back up your stock rooted ROM. There is no way to back up an unrooted ROM.
Unrooted stock ROM's are available in the form of an official RUU most of which you will find if you read the stickies in the development section of the forums.
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ahmadka said:
Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
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Titanium will not back up the os, you can use to back up all of the system apps and data. But as a previous poster said this is not good a good idea as restoring them tends to be problematic.
And don't worry about your sdcard flashing roms will not affect any data on your sdcard.
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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the only thing you could theoretically lose are photos, videos, etc that are stored on the sdcard... but this would only happen if you deleted/formatted the sd card. otherwise, they just move with you from rom to rom.
I don't know what people think titanium backup is for, but seriously... it's not as magnificent as it is commonly made out to be. its only real use is restoring stuff from /data (ie apps and settings). even then, it is known to be problematic. I have used it in the past but I finally got sick of it when I realized that half of the time I used it to backup/restore it ended up doing more harm than good.
CWM is the best option for making a full backup of EVERYTHING on your phone (remember, your sd card is not part of your phone... it doesn't get backed up/restored via CWM). restoring a CWM backup will revert your phone to the exact state it was in at the time of the backup.
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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that's awesome, but you will encounter problems with Ti backup if you try to restore anything from /system after installing a new rom. if you've come from one aosp rom to another, you might get lucky and not have any trouble (especially if they are a similar flavor of aosp), but if you try to restore anything from a sense rom's /system to an aosp rom's /system, or vice versa, you're in for a lot of force closing and general bass-ackwardness.
op: the BEST way is a nandroid backup. if you try and restore titanium backup apps and settings over whichever rom you've installed, you can almost guarantee something will be broken... just do it the right way and do a nandroid backup via CWM and save yourself the trouble.
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Not much really, there are apps available to back up sms and contacts will be synced to Google.
todo backup by easeus...free too. works great
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1) Root.
2) Install CWM Recovery.
3) Nandroid.
There's your backup.
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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A nandroid back does a complete back of system, apps, data, and settings. When you restore a nandroid your phone will be restored to the exact point it was at before you preformed the nandroid.
To back up apps and data, you will need to use an app like titanium backup. you then can restore apps and data, including game save and scores after you flash a new rom.
But it is not advised to back up and restore system data and settings with titanium back up
before i rooted i took backups whit MyBackup.
after you get rooted, take Clean CWM backup of your phone.
when you are up and running on a custom rom, take CWM backup, and back up downloaded apps whit Titanium backup.
If you are going from sense rom to sense rom, you dont necessaryli need to wipe your data and apps, so you don't have to restore anything. If you are going for completely different rom, you need wipe everything, after you are running in new rom, you cant get just the apps from cwm backup, it would restore your old rom too, so now restore your apps and stuff from TI backups. and if you don't like the new rom, use CWM backup to go back to your last rom.
so you need both backups cwm and Ti..
and as said before app backups might cause some problems when going from rom to rom
I have been jumping between different MIUI roms, they are basically the same so i haven't wiped anything(except dalvik cache) when flashing new rom, so everything will stay the way they are, and no ned to restore anything, if that's the case.
What comes to the stuff on SDcard, it will be just fine, if you want to back up your pics/music/vids, etc from your sdcard, just copy them to your computer.
Hey Guys!!
So I have some question to flashing new ROM's and I would greatly appreciate your answers.So first off I'm going to tell you what I already did do.
Permrooted my HTC DESIRE Z
Flashed CM7
So, now I see plenty of roms here in the android development section and here is are my questions:
1.If I want to flash these roms, do I just have to put them into the root of my SD cart and flash them per clockword recovery?
2.I know that I have to wipe data and cache before flashing, but is there a way to backup my current ROM(So my current homescreen, installed apps,saved messages) in case I don't like the new ROM?
Thanks very very much for your answers!
whitis said:
Hey Guys!!
So I have some question to flashing new ROM's and I would greatly appreciate your answers.So first off I'm going to tell you what I already did do.
Permrooted my HTC DESIRE Z
Flashed CM7
So, now I see plenty of roms here in the android development section and here is are my questions:
1.If I want to flash these roms, do I just have to put them into the root of my SD cart and flash them per clockword recovery?
2.I know that I have to wipe data and cache before flashing, but is there a way to backup my current ROM(So my current homescreen, installed apps,saved messages) in case I don't like the new ROM?
Thanks very very much for your answers!
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Flash any ROM just as you did CM7; as for backing up, which you should always do just incase the flash fails, there's an option to backup your current ROM in CWM. Sadly, it gives the backup a generic date/time name so I'd recommend backing up via RM which allows you to name the backup.
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use this app titanium backup (pro is preferred)https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&feature=search_result
then redownload it in your new rom and everything should be good....
oh and since your new instead of manually wiping flash superwipe for cleaner installs then install your new rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992
master.peterm said:
use this app titanium backup (pro is preferred)https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&feature=search_result
then redownload it in your new rom and everything should be good....
oh and since your new instead of manually wiping flash superwipe for cleaner installs then install your new rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992
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I would also recommend getting titanium backup Pro, its only a few $$ and it batch restores your apps. its a time saver if you flash ROMs often.
go to rom manager and click back up rom and name it the name of the rom and the date you backed it up
download titanium backup then open that and click batch then backup all apps and system data
then make a folder and call it ROMS and keep all your roms in there so its nice and organized
wipe and all that good stuff
then go back and flash the new rom the same way you did cm7
then install titanium again then click batch then restore all apps system data
if you dont like it just go back to rom manager and click manage backups and click on it and click restore and itll go back to your cm7
rickyiswhite said:
go to rom manager and click back up rom and name it the name of the rom and the date you backed it up
download titanium backup then open that and click batch then backup all apps and system data
then make a folder and call it ROMS and keep all your roms in there so its nice and organized
wipe and all that good stuff
then go back and flash the new rom the same way you did cm7
then install titanium again then click batch then restore all apps system data
if you dont like it just go back to rom manager and click manage backups and click on it and click restore and itll go back to your cm7
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No, no, no ... Never restore system data unless flashing between like ROMs. You want to backup/restore apps and data (not system data).
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No, no, no ... Never restore system data unless flashing between like ROMs. You want to backup/restore apps and data (not system data).
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THIS. Do not restore system data. The only reason to backup and restore system data is if you're planning on doing a complete wipe then re-installing CM7 (for example if you're trying to fix an issue) and want your settings back. Otherwise, don't backup system data!
Also, there's no need to make a new folder called "ROM's" or whatever. All of your backups will be organized (by date by default, but you can rename them) in the Clockwork Recovery folder on your SD card. Its best not to mess with these files (you can remove them and put onto your desktop if you need SD card space, but just leave them if you're worried). These backups don't necessarily have to be initiated by ROM manger either, they can be made while you're in recovery also, which saves you the trouble of having to wait for a reboot before wiping to flash the new ROM
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THIS. Do not restore system data. The only reason to backup and restore system data is if you're planning on doing a complete wipe then re-installing CM7 (for example if you're trying to fix an issue) and want your settings back. Otherwise, don't backup system data!
Also, there's no need to make a new folder called "ROM's" or whatever. All of your backups will be organized (by date by default, but you can rename them) in the Clockwork Recovery folder on your SD card. Its best not to mess with these files (you can remove them and put onto your desktop if you need SD card space, but just leave them if you're worried). These backups don't necessarily have to be initiated by ROM manger either, they can be made while you're in recovery also, which saves you the trouble of having to wait for a reboot before wiping to flash the new ROM
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Good tip! But I don't see an option to backup apps and data. Just batch app buckup or batch app buckup + system data.
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Murrzeak said:
Good tip! But I don't see an option to backup apps and data. Just batch app buckup or batch app buckup + system data.
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just hit menu > batch. Then hit "Backup all user apps". That'll back up the apps with the data. Titanium Backup inherently includes the app data with the app backup, it doesn't just backup the plain .apk's.
Also remember that you need to re-backup all the apps before you flash a new ROM, that way the backups are up-to-date with the latest changes you've made to them.
Wow thanks for all your replies, you guys really helped me out!!
So, If I', allowed to, I'd like to ask if there is a way to get my original ROM back(The one what came with the original phone) on my phone.
And also I want you to ask if CM7 slows my Wifi down, because it feels kind of slower.
Thanks again, you guys are awesome
whitis said:
Wow thanks for all your replies, you guys really helped me out!!
So, If I', allowed to, I'd like to ask if there is a way to get my original ROM back(The one what came with the original phone) on my phone.
And also I want you to ask if CM7 slows my Wifi down, because it feels kind of slower.
Thanks again, you guys are awesome
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If you backed up your stock ROM just restore it, otherwise check the sticky in the dev forum or the wiki to download the stock ROM
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whitis said:
So, If I', allowed to, I'd like to ask if there is a way to get my original ROM back(The one what came with the original phone) on my phone.
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If you've made a backup with ROM manger (nandroid backup) then you can simply restore this. I'm assuming you didn't if you're asking though. Check the wiki or dev section to find a stock rooted ROM. Make sure you get the stock rooted version, otherwise you're going to unroot yourself.
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And also I want you to ask if CM7 slows my Wifi down, because it feels kind of slower.
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Have you done speedtests to confirm? This could be any number of issues, and I'm sure you're not the only one who has experienced WiFi slowdowns, but there's no known issue in CM7 that affects WiFi speeds.
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Have you done speedtests to confirm? This could be any number of issues, and I'm sure you're not the only one who has experienced WiFi slowdowns, but there's no known issue in CM7 that affects WiFi speeds.
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No I didn't, but i saw The wifi Symbol in The notificationbar showing less bars than IT showed me on my stock ROM.
But i assume it's a Kind of Placebo effect because The wofür symbol in cm7 has Overall less Bars to fill then the stock one
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whitis said:
No I didn't, but i saw The wifi Symbol in The notificationbar showing less bars than IT showed me on my stock ROM.
But i assume it's a Kind of Placebo effect because The wofür symbol in cm7 has Overall less Bars to fill then the stock one
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Yea, less bars doesn't mean worse signal necessarily. CM7 reports signal with bars pretty accurately, moreso than the stock ROM for sure. If you want to know for sure, run comparative speed tests, or go to settings > about phone > status and see your WiFi signal strength.
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THIS. Do not restore system data. The only reason to backup and restore system data is if you're planning on doing a complete wipe then re-installing CM7 (for example if you're trying to fix an issue) and want your settings back. Otherwise, don't backup system data!
Also, there's no need to make a new folder called "ROM's" or whatever. All of your backups will be organized (by date by default, but you can rename them) in the Clockwork Recovery folder on your SD card. Its best not to mess with these files (you can remove them and put onto your desktop if you need SD card space, but just leave them if you're worried). These backups don't necessarily have to be initiated by ROM manger either, they can be made while you're in recovery also, which saves you the trouble of having to wait for a reboot before wiping to flash the new ROM
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Did I say backups? No, I said roms. When you download roms and put them into a folder called ROMS instead of having them scattered around your SD card. He's asking for suggestions. Not someones opinion on someones suggestion. I'm telling him what I would do. Sorry I don't do everything the way you do it.
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Did I say backups? No, I said roms. When you download roms and put them into a folder called ROMS instead of having them scattered around your SD card. He's asking for suggestions. Not someones opinion on someones suggestion. I'm telling him what I would do. Sorry I don't do everything the way you do it.
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Settle down. Seriously. Either way there is no need to create a folder for them. I'd be surprised if he had so many ROMs on his SDcard that he couldn't distinguish between them. They're all named appropriately or you can rename them. Also, there's no need to keep the .zip's on the SDcard after you've flashed anyways.
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Settle down. Seriously. Either way there is no need to create a folder for them. I'd be surprised if he had so many ROMs on his SDcard that he couldn't distinguish between them. They're all named appropriately or you can rename them. Also, there's no need to keep the .zip's on the SDcard after you've flashed anyways.
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So say somehow you lose your rm backups and something goes wrong, then you have re download the rom and if you don't have a pc near by, you have to download it from your phone and all of us tmobile users know that downloading a rom uses a good amount of data, so if you wanna download a new one on your phone if you have to, have fun being throttled quicker. A friend of mine had that happen to him, he was ****ed so I let him use my sd card to flash the rom. And I only have glite and the rom I'm running now, I don't have every single rom on xda
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So say somehow you lose your rm backups and something goes wrong, then you have re download the rom and if you don't have a pc near by, you have to download it from your phone and all of us tmobile users know that downloading a rom uses a good amount of data, so if you wanna download a new one on your phone if you have to, have fun being throttled quicker. A friend of mine had that happen to him, he was ****ed so I let him use my sd card to flash the rom. And I only have glite and the rom I'm running now, I don't have every single rom on xda.
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If you lose your ROM manager backups, chances are you lost your SDcard, which also contained your initial ROM .zip's (aka lose one, you lose the other). Just keep the .zip's on your computer, its wasted space to have the originals and the backups on the same SDcard. Storage space ain't free.
I don't understand why you would download ROMs continuously over 3G when you can simply wait and download on a computer. Who needs to download a ROM that bad that they would be willing to go over their data cap for it? Seems to be a weird use-case, you clearly wouldn't download a ROM on 3G if you were close to your data throttle. I'm sure at that point your current ROM can last you the rest of the day till you get to a computer.
If you're "somehow losing" your ROM manager backups you might have other issues to deal with first.
Hey folks
I am new to all this with rooting, flashing and so on, and i think it's exciting and awesome, so thanks to all the develepors, and the other guys who keeps this scene running!
I got a few questions about TI backup, that i need answered.. I have searched around the forum for a while, and can't find any exact answers to my questions..
With my phone rooted.. What would you guys go after, the free or the full version of TI backup, and why?
Whats the differences between the free and full?
I have also searched a bit round on the official users guide, and Wiki on TI backups homepage, but it's confusing i think..
And how is it with backup, flashing other roms and so on?
I now have the HoneySense rom flashed, and TI backup..
Can i take a backup of my sms messages, my app's, and their settings, and then flash another rom, and get the **** moved to the new rom?
And how does that work in practice?
- do i have to install TI backup on the new rom after flashing, or is there anyway that it could be installed with the rom, or how works that?
Finally, i got a question about ClockworkMod, since i can't find much information about the app on their homepage..
I got CWM installed,but what is is exactly? Is it somekind of bootloader, or?
And will CWM dissapear from my phone when flashing?
When i flashed to HoneySense, i did it with CWM, but that was also some kind of bootloader?
I really appreciate your time, and your willing to help
Thank you
giusdk said:
I really appreciate your time, and your willing to help
Thank you
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Titanium Backup Pro has more features included, but i didnt need them already... if you use it to backup and restore your system and apps and you decide to flash a different ROM, you should only restore Apps, not Data... thats a choice you can make in Restore menue... i'm talking about your User-Apps, i never restored System-Apps or Data after a clean install of an ROM...
Greets Steffen
Thanks for the answer already
Do you know more about it?
Could any action taken in TI backup cause the phone to crash and brick?
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The Pro version because you can batch restore, otherwise you have to restore apps individually.
You can restore the apps data as well, but not recommended across totally different roms, definitely do not restore system apps and data, anything in red. This might include SMS data (red), up to you to try. Other alternatives would be use other app such as GoSMS Pro (free) Edit: has backup option, or My Backup Root.
There might be a chance of force closes etc, if you've not followed the above, but never heard of anyone actually bricking their device. Worst case is having to restore a full backup made in ClockworkMod Recovery.
I use both CWM and TB Pro prior to flashing any new ROM. Also keep a copy on the PC just in case the sdcard has a bad day.
Don't forget to wipe dalvik cache in CWM after TB restore and reboot. It may take a few minutes to boot up, but don't worry.
If your Market doesn't show all your apps, try deleting market cache, reboot clearing dalvik, and use TB Pro to "restore market links" found somewhere in the menu. If still doesn't show all, TB recommends try downloading a new app then check again.
Edit: CWM is just a custom recovery. Has many more options than stock, allowing a full system backup and restore, also known as a nan / nandroid backup, similar to a ghost / image of your system. Can be used and updated through an app called ROM Manager, which is really just an interface / GUI for CWM (among other things).
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I only got a sec or I'd answer more ????s.
I use the paid version simply cuz after using the free for so long and it saving me so much time and grief, i felt it only right to buy the full version. Plus the dev (joel) is awesome at direct support. Plus, on full version, you can make multiple backups of an app (for newer versions, etc) .
I would use a diff app for backup texts. Sms backup/restore is good, and free. And that way, you wont have to restore system app and data with Ti (which can cause issues)
Also, I Dont use CWM, I use amonRA, but yes, you will still have it after flashing a new rom, kernel, or theme. It is on a partition that goes untouched across flashes.
Ti, is an excellent tool.
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Additionally:
Most custom roms have TB Free, but you will need to restore your Pro key first and reboot, that is if you want to batch restore the rest of your apps and or data etc. Otherwise it's one by one.
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That was fast.. and usefull!
Thank you guys, that made it a lot more easy..
How do i clear the dalvik cache?
The CWM is a recovery tool.. So that if something goes wrong in a flash, i can recover by using CWM?
And to do that, i will need to take a Rom Backup, in CMW..
When i press the Backup Rom button i CWM, my phone restarts and boots into CWM interface, and backs up everything.. Where is that file stored, so i can move to my pc, and have the backup an extra place?
About the market problem.. I do almost only have paid apps, so when i login to market with my google account, they automaticly shows up under my bought app's..
Thank you so much for the help so far
giusdk said:
That was fast.. and usefull!
Thank you guys, that made it a lot more easy..
How do i clear the dalvik cache?
The CWM is a recovery tool.. So that if something goes wrong in a flash, i can recover by using CWM?
And to do that, i will need to take a Rom Backup, in CMW..
When i press the Backup Rom button i CWM, my phone restarts and boots into CWM interface, and backs up everything.. Where is that file stored, so i can move to my pc, and have the backup an extra place?
About the market problem.. I do almost only have paid apps, so when i login to market with my google account, they automaticly shows up under my bought app's..
Thank you so much for the help so far
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You can wipe dalvik cache from a menu within CWM Recovery, or several apps, including TB . TB / Menu / More / .....
Just backup using menu inside CWM Recovery or from within ROM Manager (uses CWM Recovery) before flashing any ROM. So if you don't like the new Rom or have issues, you can boot into recovery and restore.
Most custom ROMs have an advanced power menu allowing you to reboot directly into CWM Recovery, or you can from ROM Manager or from the Bootloader menu.
All CWM Recovery backups are saved to the sdcard / clockworkmod / backup
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Titanium backs up your apps and app data and some system data. While recovery backs up/restores your current ROM image, meaning back up will restore everything up to the second you backed up even the way you place your apps
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Thank you so much. That was answers to all my questions.. For now
At some later point when i am much more into all this, i am considering making a thread, with info to all the new people in the forum, like me, who don't know what the Dalvik is, and a little about what the kernel is and why it is there.. All the small but usefull stuff, that aren't on the XDA Wiki page about DHD..
A big dictionary
That could be usefull i think..
Thanks a lot for you time
U can also try MyBackup Pro which is an excellent alternative to Titanium.
giusdk said:
Thank you so much. That was answers to all my questions.. For now
At some later point when i am much more into all this, i am considering making a thread, with info to all the new people in the forum, like me, who don't know what the Dalvik is, and a little about what the kernel is and why it is there.. All the small but usefull stuff, that aren't on the XDA Wiki page about DHD..
A big dictionary
That could be usefull i think..
Thanks a lot for you time
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So, now i got better time, and i do understand a lot more of it.
Are anybody in for helping me making such a dictionary?
I will do mostly everything, just need some who knows more than me, to read it and tell me if somethings wrong or missing
Thank you
Hey everyone. Whats up. I am wondering if a complete wipe is mandatory every time when upgrading to a the latest cyanogen mod version? (To Clarify I mean from an older cyanogen 10.1 rom version). If so is there simple instructions that you could give me to explain exactly how?
~Fellow rocker
Thanks in advance
rockingfreely said:
Hey everyone. Whats up. I am wondering if a complete wipe is mandatory every time when upgrading to a the latest cyanogen mod version? (To Clarify I mean from an older cyanogen 10.1 rom version). If so is there simple instructions that you could give me to explain exactly how?
~Fellow rocker
Thanks in advance
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If it doesn't say in the OP where the instructions are, you are normally safe. You can always use Titanium Backup to save all of your apps and settings and them restore them after installing the updated version. Never restore system settings to any ROM that is not what you backed them up from. Apps are fine to do so.
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If it doesn't say in the OP where the instructions are, you are normally safe. You can always use Titanium Backup to save all of your apps and settings and them restore them after installing the updated version. Never restore system settings to any ROM that is not what you backed them up from. Apps are fine to do so.
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Thanks Gray for your prompt reply, although to sum my question up more, I was really asking something different. You see I have an older version of cyanogen mod 10.1, using the same rom, I'd like to know how to upgrade to the newest version which is Feb 26 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099881 without deleting my data. It kinda sucks to go through this process time and time again lol
~rockingfreely
The answer is in the OP install instructions of that ROM.
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the reason you always wipe is to avoid bugs and problems. Even though you can get away with dirty flashing sometimes, most of the time its going to cause problems and lag
Do yourself a favor, buy either titanium backup pro or rom toolbox pro, backup whats important with those, and clean flash. those are the best way to keep things while avoiding problems