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Hello,
Just got a Play today for use with emulators as it's perfect for physical buttons. But to my surprise there is a lag in it and I mean big time.
By default it's set to auto frame skip max 2, if i leave it like that then the game looks like its jumping really badly but it sounds fine. If i set the skipping to 0 then it runs smoothly but theres this annoying poping and clicking sound on the speakers.
Some people might say i should talk to the developer of the emulators. But this isnt an issue with them, as i dont see any other users with these issues and I don't really belive them to be true when lower devices run these emulators without issues.
I'm running stock formware 2.3.3 latest update. I havent removed any system apps at all literally just bought the play, updated software, loaded emulators and discovered this.
For snes I use supergnes and it has the best sound I have ever seen outside of bsnes, no crackling and a nice front end for launching games.
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Thanks that one looks really nice and seems to work better than Snesoid!
Just remove some of the stuff on your homepages, like the game launchers, and the Timescape widget, also the photo and video one too, and the emulators should run better.
RottenFoxBreath said:
Just remove some of the stuff on your homepages, like the game launchers, and the Timescape widget, also the photo and video one too, and the emulators should run better.
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Hey man thanks I removed all of my widgets from the home screen but it had no effect.
linkandzelda said:
Thanks that one looks really nice and seems to work better than Snesoid!
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It is paid but I have been very happy with the performance
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I'm making a video to demonstrate the problems. I'll add it to youtube shortly hopefully people can then tell if it's normal or not.
EDIT: Heres the video
Description:
In this video I play Gameboid with pokemon first showing it with frameskip set to auto and 0, and you need to listen carefully to the sound so you can hear that it crackles all the time which is very annoying. I then change the frameskip to 2 which is the default and you can then see that the game skips and jumps and is just too laggy to be belivable.
After that i try out Gensoid and you can see the same results from me running sonic. I get this result with every game i try. I also tried md.emu for sega but it was better but still skipped when the frameskip wa set to auto.
If anyone knows what I can do to solve this please let me know iw ould greatly aphiciate it as i bought the play JUST for emulators, if it doesnt play them then its totally a waste of money for me.
As soon as I got mine, I updated to 2.3.4, and tried Outrun(mame), Sonic 1, and 2 Gensoid), and Contra(Snesoid), both had bad sound, just like on my old phone, which really wasn't up to the job, but on removing Timescape, and that stupid photo and video widget, and the emulators virtual pads, they ran like a charm, Gensoid, Snesoid, and Mame4Droid all work fine, with no sound issues now.
Mame4Droid, I unticked Threaded Sound, as it seemed to cause issues, the others were left with stock settings, bar the virtual screen buttons removed.
I see, I was thinking that i'm the only one with the issues. Well in the end I went to the MIUI build on here and went away from the 'oid' series. Belive it or not but I found Genesis A.D. and MD.Emu to be faster and full speed or at least 99.99%. genplusdroid had a problem it was running slow and also the sound was a tone lower.
Also Snes A.D. seems to be full speed with Chrono Trigger sound included. Have yet to try Snes9x.
SNES: check
SEGA: check
GBC: check
PSX: check
MAME: havent tried
ATARI: havent tried
N64: check
GBA: no dice still lags with gameboid and gba player lite is jumpy, anyone know of another?
FPSE has a bad case of crackling sound... but only if the app is on the background. While you're actually using it there is no problem.
I've tried everything to get emulators for retro games such as sonic for the sega to run smoothly and with perfect sound. But it wont work. This isnt just for sonic its for any game in snes, gba or sega. I even overclocked the Play to 1.4 GHZ amnd the effects are exactly the same i bet i could overclo9ck to 5ghz and it would still stutter.
Does anyone have a clue about what the heck is going on with this Play? Videos show these games running full speed 200% on youtube. No other users have reported anything similar to my issues either.
Why is it important? I bought the play as an emulation machine not as a phone.
EDIT: Not to mention i now have an unknown baseband in the process... lol
Try to Re-flash using Sony Ericsson Update Service (SEUS)...
You can no longer find this software from Sony website but is accesible through third-party download centres such as Megaupload and Rapidshare.
albanezi said:
Try to Re-flash using Sony Ericsson Update Service (SEUS)...
You can no longer find this software from Sony website but is accesible through third-party download centres such as Megaupload and Rapidshare.
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Agreed, it sounds like a bad flash or something TBH.
Just used the flashtool and im back on 3.0 and baseband working again, but still emulator issue as before. Im in the process of doing an OTA to still keep the root which i did, rather than what i did before using the pc tool it removed root.
Is there any pointers for where i can get this SEUS like what version? How it works what files needed etc?
Thanks
Rather than hi jack the MIUI thread
I get the same crackling sound on mine, although I don't have any visual lag whatsoever. Prolly just the youtube quality, but I dont see it in your vid either.
As for the sound, that's the emulators fault. The -oid series have done that for me on both my phones, with varying degrees depending on which emu. However I just tried an alternate genesis app (genplusdroid), and it's a whole different ball game. I think it's running a tad slow, but zero crackling in the sound, unlike gensoid.
I'd try some different emulators
A genplusdroid i'll have to check it out. Somone recomended that supergnes is good fro snes and it is its better than snesoid.
supergnes - runs well on the play
genplusdroid - seems to run well on the play with no stuttering
n64oid - runs without stuttering at accaptable levels
Hmhm i wonder how these things will run on MIUI on the play.
Since MIUI is based on CM7, it will run the same as that, which should be just fine.
Does anyone know what the best settings for the One X would be?
I've been messing around with the video settings for a few days now but I can't figure out what the best configuration is, anyone have any experience with this?
I advice you to use epsxe emulator, it has less options then fpse but the sound is 100% identical(fpse really has bad sound...) and visual wise it's good too! Also 60 fps constant. As for options for fpse just use frame limiter and software emulation or opengl and frame limiter, but still ff7 has most epic soundtrack ever and fpse fails to emulate most of the sounds and music!
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AndyLeJizm said:
I advice you to use epsxe emulator, it has less options then fpse but the sound is 100% identical(fpse really has bad sound...) and visual wise it's good too! Also 60 fps constant. As for options for fpse just use frame limiter and software emulation or opengl and frame limiter, but still ff7 has most epic soundtrack ever and fpse fails to emulate most of the sounds and music!
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Thanks, now if you can continue being so nice and guide me through how to continue playing my save game that I've saved on FPSE on the EPSXE I'll gladly switch!
I've put some work into the game already, and just starting from scratch doesn't seem an enjoyable option for me since I've beating this game many times in my child-hood and I'm just replaying it for the memories.
And I do agree with you, sound is pretty ****ty on FPSE and that takes the experience right away from emulating FF7 on it!
I don't have fpse anymore but I'm pretty sure there's an mcr file you have to copy and paste from your fpse folder to epsxe. Or you can copy your in game save states to epsxe. (memcard is better though) Let me look it up for you, as I bought fpse a while ago.
Also check this out. http://www.fpsece.net/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2248
http://www.fpsece.net/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2552
Basically your question but answered, but for PC (should work for Android though, need root access though)
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AndyLeJizm said:
I don't have fpse anymore but I'm pretty sure there's an mcr file you have to copy and paste from your fpse folder to epsxe. Or you can copy your in game save states to epsxe. (memcard is better though) Let me look it up for you, as I bought fpse a while ago.
Also check this out. http://www.fpsece.net/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2248
http://www.fpsece.net/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2552
Basically your question but answered, but for PC (should work for Android though, need root access though)
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Thanks, friend!
I'll do this tomorrow, first I need some sleep!
Ok I can confirm it works with transferring your memory card from fpse to epsxe. (save state doesn't work! Has a different framework)
The memory card is located at /sdcard/.FPSE./memcard (its a hidden folder so make sure your file explorer has show hidden folders enabled.)
Copy slot1.mcd to epsxe memcard folder (located at sdcard) and rename the file to epsxe000.mcr launch epsxe and enjoy no more missing sounds! I bought them both and the two euros I spent for epsxe were worth my money Let me know if you need help if it doesn't work but it worked out for me, happy ff7ing man!
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AndyLeJizm said:
Ok I can confirm it works with transferring your memory card from fpse to epsxe. (save state doesn't work! Has a different framework)
The memory card is located at /sdcard/.FPSE./memcard (its a hidden folder so make sure your file explorer has show hidden folders enabled.)
Copy slot1.mcd to epsxe memcard folder and rename the file to epsxe000.mcr launch epsxe and enjoy no more missing sounds! I bought them both and the two euros I spent for epsxe were worth my money Let me know if you need help if it doesn't work but it worked out for me, happy ff7ing man!
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Sweet, that's even easier.
Thanks a lot man, you're a great dude, taking time to even test it yourself and such!
Np man just wanting to give you that oldskool rpg feeling back, but ofcourse with 100% smooth emulation
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Thanks a lot, I had the same problem and didn't want re-start the game
Ouu this sounds fun
All I need now is to find a decent FF7 iso I guess...
Going to install EPSXE now! :good:
Epsxe on an HD720p screen like ours just sucks hard.
But if you like pixels, why not, right, you won't have any difficulties to set it up, there are almost no possible settings xD
Final Fantasy 7 without Fpse's openGL mode is just ugly.
As for sound, I guess you've tried Spusync option? And what format is your iso? if it's .bin, you need the .cue that goes with.
Also use framelimiter to get constant fps, and play a little with "latency" option in MISC settings. FF7 runs perfect in openGL on my oneX, no sound problem, and no ugly pixels and blurry filtering like Epsxe
@AndyLeJizm: "visual wise", Epsxe is just ugly on HD screen and tablets. Fpse can render PS1 game at your screen real resolution, and sound problems can most of the time be solved if you use the accurate settings.
Also Epsxe may have better support for sh...y downloaded ROMs from the internet, that's true, and explains most of the time why people go to Epsxe.....
i900frenchaddict said:
Epsxe on an HD720p screen like ours just sucks hard.
But if you like pixels, why not, right, you won't have any difficulties to set it up, there are almost no possible settings xD
Final Fantasy 7 without Fpse's openGL mode is just ugly.
As for sound, I guess you've tried Spusync option? And what format is your iso? if it's .bin, you need the .cue that goes with.
Also use framelimiter to get constant fps, and play a little with "latency" option in MISC settings. FF7 runs perfect in openGL on my oneX, no sound problem, and no ugly pixels and blurry filtering like Epsxe
@AndyLeJizm: "visual wise", Epsxe is just ugly on HD screen and tablets. Fpse can render PS1 game at your screen real resolution, and sound problems can most of the time be solved if you use the accurate settings.
Also Epsxe may have better support for sh...y downloaded ROMs from the internet, that's true, and explains most of the time why people go to Epsxe.....
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It looks fine to me (somewhat smoother graphics then original ps1, cause they have hardware rendering now with new update), whoever played final fantasy 7 knows that graphics don't matter especially for a game that's thirteen years old and sound is super important with oldskool rpg games. And yes I've spent countless nights to figure out how to get perfect sound emulation on both my phone and tablets with fpse but it never came close to 100% (missing instruments in music, sound fx that sounded real bad) In my opinion, if you don't care about nifty graphics but really want 100% the same identical ps1 rom (or ofcourse a music lover that loves oldskool nobuo uematsu fantasy music) as it was supposed to be then epsxe really
Is better. Might not be the best looking but it sure is the best sounding my two cents.
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Hi FF7 battle scene runs slow on my ePSXe 1.7.9 in JB 4.1.1 does updating it to the latest version will solve my problem T.I.A
What are your settings? It should run fine on that! (mess around with your settings.)
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game speed a little too fast in fpse
AndyLeJizm said:
What are your settings? It should run fine on that! (mess around with your settings.)
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On my Galaxy S5 both emulators run smooth. I use fpse, because the opengl plugin works great, makes the game look way better than on the PS.
And still it runs smooth. In fact, no matter what settings i try, fpse seems to be around 10% too fast. I played youtube movies of fixed sequences, such as the gold sauces speed square, as they run on the PS and my emulated game clearly finished earlier, even when i synchronized them at the beginning. This is with frame limit enabled of course.
Hi, i'm starting this thread since the PPSSPP emulator is working great, the people here could share games that are working, the setup
and if possible a game video, because the only threat that has that info is outside here and is for every version so the game could be playable but not in GNex, so share your info with us and i'll give proper credit and update all the info on the OP
I tried out "bleach heat the soul 7" in my s2... Worked fantastic!
"God of war ghost of Sparta" did not go, well lags a lot...
"Raw vs smack down 2010" worked without lags but only the shoes of the players were visible.. So drop the idea of it...
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Today I just downloaded the game "Dungeon Hunter 4", an RPG that some of you may have heard. I saw a video on YouTube an Xperia Z playing the game flawlessly in what I think is in the highest graphic settings. But my problem is, the max video quality I can set is medium, and more annoyingly, IT STILL LAGS A LOT.
Is there something I did wrong? Stock, rooted. I don't know if this is an optimization issue or what, but considering how very similar the two phones are, how hard is it (or if it's even a problem) to optimize it for the ZL. I'm quite disappointed right now
JRBT24 said:
Today I just downloaded the game "Dungeon Hunter 4", an RPG that some of you may have heard. I saw a video on YouTube an Xperia Z playing the game flawlessly in what I think is in the highest graphic settings. But my problem is, the max video quality I can set is medium, and more annoyingly, IT STILL LAGS A LOT.
Is there something I did wrong? Stock, rooted. I don't know if this is an optimization issue or what, but considering how very similar the two phones are, how hard is it (or if it's even a problem) to optimize it for the ZL. I'm quite disappointed right now
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I dunno about yours but mine runs flawlessly. No tweaks. Stock Rom and kernel, rooted via doomlord method, and no changes in the setting after downloading.
Can you check the max graphic configuration you can set in settings? Mine only goes medium at the highest
JRBT24 said:
Today I just downloaded the game "Dungeon Hunter 4", an RPG that some of you may have heard. I saw a video on YouTube an Xperia Z playing the game flawlessly in what I think is in the highest graphic settings. But my problem is, the max video quality I can set is medium, and more annoyingly, IT STILL LAGS A LOT.
Is there something I did wrong? Stock, rooted. I don't know if this is an optimization issue or what, but considering how very similar the two phones are, how hard is it (or if it's even a problem) to optimize it for the ZL. I'm quite disappointed right now
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If ur rooted... download greenify from playstore(by oasis feng)...and greenify all the apps you don't want to run in the background(all apps including games as well except for messaging apps you'll get notifications from)
The less apps running in the background the better the mobile will perform while playing high end games
If you feel that I've helped you in any way,,please hit the thanks button
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Rumman Shaikh said:
If ur rooted... download greenify from playstore(by oasis feng)...and greenify all the apps you don't want to run in the background(all apps including games as well except for messaging apps you'll get notifications from)
The less apps running in the background the better the mobile will perform while playing high end games
If you feel that I've helped you in any way,,please hit the thanks button
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Yup, I already have greenify installed and running. The problem seems to be in the optimization of the game for my phone model (c6503). Not very sure though
JRBT24 said:
Today I just downloaded the game "Dungeon Hunter 4", an RPG that some of you may have heard. I saw a video on YouTube an Xperia Z playing the game flawlessly in what I think is in the highest graphic settings. But my problem is, the max video quality I can set is medium, and more annoyingly, IT STILL LAGS A LOT.
Is there something I did wrong? Stock, rooted. I don't know if this is an optimization issue or what, but considering how very similar the two phones are, how hard is it (or if it's even a problem) to optimize it for the ZL. I'm quite disappointed right now
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Dude. i play graphic hungry games a lot in my ZL with all settings maxed out. plays perfectly without any lags. May be a repair might solve your problem