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hey guys
I was wondering if there is anyone that has bought an unlocked TP2, and who has AT&T, could tell me if the unlocked version of the phone works with AT&T's 3G bands. I've been asking this question all around the rhodium forums, and I've been getting some very convincing answers, but I really need to hear it from someone who has actually purchased the phone and who has AT&T in the U.S.
and also, does anyone know if there is any form of warranty or insurance offered when you buy an unlocked phone?? that's one of my major needs, just in case something unexpected happens. If there isn't then I'm gonna have to wait until AT&T releases their "customized" version of the TP2. with all of AT&T's design flaws.
thanks!!
i dont believe so if i remember correctly it does not have 850 and 1900 band for highspeed...you would only get edge connection and make calls.
TP2 For USA?
I have also been looking high and low, I have located a decent website that really sets me at ease as a buyer the TP2 is not here yet, but it is still early- either way, the FAQ really set me at ease, I am planning my Tp2 to be purchased from them- not only is there an option to assure connectivity in the US on all levels of at&t'S network, but the freq's upon which the phone one purchases are listed on the site- AT&T to my understanding is on 850 & 1900 mhz- which is clearly displayed here- not only that, but here is a "compatibility" chart where one can actually select the network of any proposed purchase-
http://www.cellhut.com
Like I said, the FAQ really made me feel at ease- plus they offer an additional warranty along with the manufacturer's (for purchase)-
that is the plan, I will definitely post any positive results- It is tempting to just buy a new TyTNII sans the AT&T crap, plus the front camera, instead of waiting for the TP2...
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I have also been looking high and low, I have located a decent website that really sets me at ease as a buyer the TP2 is not here yet, but it is still early- either way, the FAQ really set me at ease, I am planning my Tp2 to be purchased from them- not only is there an option to assure connectivity in the US on all levels of at&t'S network, but the freq's upon which the phone one purchases are listed on the site- AT&T to my understanding is on 850 & 1900 mhz- which is clearly displayed here- not only that, but here is a "compatibility" chart where one can actually select the network of any proposed purchase-
http://www.cellhut.com
Like I said, the FAQ really made me feel at ease- plus they offer an additional warranty along with the manufacturer's (for purchase)-
that is the plan, I will definitely post any positive results- It is tempting to just buy a new TyTNII sans the AT&T crap, plus the front camera, instead of waiting for the TP2...
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yes please let me know how your purchase goes. how sure are you that this site is legit? i'm worried about buying an unlocked TP2 and finding out that the website is a scam nd that i just lost out on 500+ of hard-earned money. i'll check it out tho
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I have also been looking high and low, I have located a decent website that really sets me at ease as a buyer the TP2 is not here yet, but it is still early- either way, the FAQ really set me at ease, I am planning my Tp2 to be purchased from them- not only is there an option to assure connectivity in the US on all levels of at&t'S network, but the freq's upon which the phone one purchases are listed on the site- AT&T to my understanding is on 850 & 1900 mhz- which is clearly displayed here- not only that, but here is a "compatibility" chart where one can actually select the network of any proposed purchase-
http://www.cellhut.com
Like I said, the FAQ really made me feel at ease- plus they offer an additional warranty along with the manufacturer's (for purchase)-
that is the plan, I will definitely post any positive results- It is tempting to just buy a new TyTNII sans the AT&T crap, plus the front camera, instead of waiting for the TP2...
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Sorry to disappoint you but the best option is to wait for the AT&T release. Here's why:
Starting with the Touch Diamond and the Touch Pro, HTC released a European model which does not contain AT&T 3G bands and is only useable on the EDGE network which is much slower. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the only brand new factory unlocked versions have been the European or Asian models. The price is also much higher for an unbranded unlocked phone. All indications are that they will be doing the same thing with the Touch Pro2. The following is the specs on the TP2 straight from HTC's European website: Here's the link.
NetworkHSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent.)
You can see that HSPA (3G) is only supported at 900/2100. AT&T uses 850/1900 for 3G. I made the mistake of purchasing the HTC Touch Pro from Europe then had to sell it for a $400 loss on eBay and purchase the AT&T Fuze from an AT&T store.
Typically, HTC releases their new devices in Europe and Asia 1-2 months prior to a US release. It may be torture to have to sit and wait on it while your friends across the pond are already flashing new ROMs to their new shiny phone, but you'll be much better off.
really? there is another thread on the rhodium forum titled "unbranded touch pro 2" and the thread starter posted a link from infosync.com saying that HTC is planning to release a version of the TP2 in the summer that will be compatible with AT&T's 3G bands. how true is that? i hope its true! im getting really anxious and impatient!
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really? there is another thread on the rhodium forum titled "unbranded touch pro 2" and the thread starter posted a link from infosync.com saying that HTC is planning to release a version of the TP2 in the summer that will be compatible with AT&T's 3G bands. how true is that? i hope its true! im getting really anxious and impatient!
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Yes, I read that after I made my post above. That is great news since I don't think I am going to like AT&T's modifications. I am not eligible for an upgrade yet anyway since I bought the Fuze not that long ago. I wonder if it will be released at the same time as the Europe/Asia models.
I can't find the TP2 on cellhut.com. They must have taken it off their site. I certainly wouldn't trust a dealer that I am not familiar with and hasn't been vouched for on this forum.
don't you think the reason it's not on the site is because it's not out yet? I was actually thinking about just buying it straight from HTC, but the one thing I need to be sure of is if it will support AT&T's 3G bands.
so none of the TP2s being sold on expansys or any of the other sites that are offering them will support U.S. 3G?
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don't you think the reason it's not on the site is because it's not out yet? I was actually thinking about just buying it straight from HTC, but the one thing I need to be sure of is if it will support AT&T's 3G bands.
so none of the TP2s being sold on expansys or any of the other sites that are offering them will support U.S. 3G?
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Expansys has the UK model listed. They will probably sell the US unlocked version as well, but I would never buy from them again. They lie about items being in stock and I have never received anything from them quickly. When I've purchased from overseas in the past I have used Clove who have always been honest about stock and are very fast shippers. Hopefully newegg.com will have it. They sell some other unlocked HTC phones.
so once those sites start selling the US unlocked TP2, we can buy it from there and they'll work with the US 3G bands right? we just have to wait until the unlocked ones are available online?
Hey everybody,
I actually emailed HTC-America ([email protected]) and I asked them if the Unlocked-US version of the TP2 would support 3G networks. I said that they confirmed on their twitter feed that it would be coming to the US, so I was rightly wondering whether an Unlocked-US version would support our weird 3G frequencies.
I think there was a misunderstanding because they said that the HTC twitter feed was in no way run or affiliated with HTC, which doesn't make sense because ON the TP2's product overview page, they actually link to their Facebook, YouTube, and TWITTER accounts.
So I emailed them back saying that of course they have to run that twitter feed, and asked them the question again, but they probably won't get back to me until Monday at least. I'll keep everybody updated on the responses I get, as I, and many others, would REALLY hate to buy another AT&T subsidized model of anything.
Dave
thank man that's good. that doesn't make any sense tho! how can they say that they're not affiliated with the HTC twitter feed? that's stupid lol. keep us updated bro!!!
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so once those sites start selling the US unlocked TP2, we can buy it from there and they'll work with the US 3G bands right? we just have to wait until the unlocked ones are available online?
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I mention Clove in case you ever plan to buy from the UK. Quite positive they won't be selling the US version anyway. If there is a US unlocked version look for it to say UMTS or HSPA with the bands 850/1900. For GSM it will be quad-band and work most places in the world. Of course, online retailers sometimes make mistakes in their listings so you may want to confirm it by contacting the company you purchase from, or even better wait for someone who bought one to post their results in this forum.
I got the reply from HTC today, and it was a kind of mixed answer. The reply to my last email I sent was this:
... I understand how important it is to have the full information for upcoming products. Until there is information for this product available on HTC's United States web page, then we would not be able to confirm the specs for an American release of this device ...
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Soooo, even though they "officially" announced it coming to the US, it's not officially announced that it's coming to the US? I don't know what they mean, but by the way the email used "until" instead of "unless" and other ways it was phrased, I think the answer is yes, we will get an American release. But, maybe I'm just over analyzing it. Tell me what you guys think about it.
Dave
it just seems like they don't wanna give away any info about the TP2, even tho they already did. they're not making any sense by saying there is no word on a U.S. release, when we all know that there was an announcement of a U.S. release a while back. seems like they're basically saying there will be a U.S. release; they just wanna be secretive about it at the moment, which seems pointless to me
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it just seems like they don't wanna give away any info about the TP2, even tho they already did. they're not making any sense by saying there is no word on a U.S. release, when we all know that there was an announcement of a U.S. release a while back. seems like they're basically saying there will be a U.S. release; they just wanna be secretive about it at the moment, which seems pointless to me
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i think that its more so the fact that when it come to the US they have contracts with all these companies that rebrand the device. so they choose to with hold the info to give those companies the best chance at selling the rebranded products.
htc will not be releasing a unlocked U.S. Touch Pro 2. at&t version will be called the fortress and is suppose 2 come out in july. Then you can unlock that version like my fuze is.
esincho said:
htc will not be releasing a unlocked U.S. Touch Pro 2. at&t version will be called the fortress and is suppose 2 come out in july. Then you can unlock that version like my fuze is.
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humm.. wonder if its worth getting the euro non-3g or waiting for the ATT version. Not sure how much longer i want to wait, but with ATT if i get it though them, i can have the phone insured. *ponders*
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htc will not be releasing a unlocked U.S. Touch Pro 2. at&t version will be called the fortress and is suppose 2 come out in july. Then you can unlock that version like my fuze is.
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I agree with you that there will not likely be a US unlocked version since I don't recall HTC ever doing that before, but how do you know for sure? Also, I haven't heard any time frame for at&t's release until I just read your quote saying July. Where did you hear that? Was it from a reliable source? Thanks.
^ U might want to wait (like many of us), and not live on the EDGE w/o 3G!
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After reading/watching The Verge review, it is mentioned that the HSPA+ version will only come in a 16GB option. Does anyone know if this is true? I'm sure, like me, a lot of people here were planning to get a 32GB HSPA+ version. Thanks.
i'll only get the 32GB version, there's no point getting the 16GB version
and yes we need GSM HSPA+ for Tmo/ATT
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After reading/watching The Verge review, it is mentioned that the HSPA+ version will only come in a 16GB option. Does anyone know if this is true? I'm sure, like me, a lot of people here were planning to get a 32GB HSPA+ version. Thanks.
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i think The Verge may be getting confused...since the UK is the only place that has the phone at the moment, and it's already been confirmed that the UK is only getting the 16GB version, they may be taking that as being a blanket designation for all the HSPA+ handsets.
The japanese NTT Docomo advert quite clearly states that it is available in 16GB & 32GB capacities.
We really don't know right now. Indicators are that the UK HSPA+ version is 16 and the US LTE version is 32, but that's just because we really don't know too much more than that right now...
And that is a big reason why the launch of this reeks. No details.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.
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And that is a big reason why the launch of this reeks. No details.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.
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Yup, I agree. This is getting really annoying.
the *****ing and moaning would be a lot more tolerable if say google said something like the unlocked gsm/hspa+ version would be available unlocked in the usa like january 3 or something. something to look forward to at least. we'd still whine 'why the hell give verizon exclusivity?' and such but again at least we'd have something to look forward to.
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the *****ing and moaning would be a lot more tolerable if say google said something like the unlocked gsm/hspa+ version would be available unlocked in the usa like january 3 or something. something to look forward to at least. we'd still whine 'why the hell give verizon exclusivity?' and such but again at least we'd have something to look forward to.
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Just looked on google.com/nexus... I am disappointed.
When you select United States at the bottom and go to the tech specs, under data it says CDMA/LTE; however, when you select United Kingdom, under data it says 3G/EDGE/GPRS.
I'm beginning to think that in the US there will be only a LTE/Verizon nexus
i think the only 32gb nexus will be the thicker verizon unit... i could be wrong. but if you have seen any other evidence of a gsm 32gb variant ..please point it out. i have seen nothing
BiGMERF said:
i think the only 32gb nexus will be the thicker verizon unit... i could be wrong. but if you have seen any other evidence of a gsm 32gb variant ..please point it out. i have seen nothing
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Samsung on FB said the UK will only get the 16GB "initially" .. meaning there is a 32GB GSM, it just won't hit until...Dec/Jan? My guess is around the time (or exactly when) the GSM Nexus comes to the US.
Dmw017 said:
Samsung on FB said the UK will only get the 16GB "initially" .. meaning there is a 32GB GSM, it just won't hit until...Dec/Jan? My guess is around the time (or exactly when) the GSM Nexus comes to the US.
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you can interpret what you want...there is no evidence of it.. patents, fcc filings, etc
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you can interpret what you want...there is no evidence of it.. patents, fcc filings, etc
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It wasn't an interpretation Samsung literally used the word "initially" in their reply on Facebook.
Im holidaying in the US of A near the end of December, will it be possible for me to buy a 32gig 3g/gsm/hsdpa etc etc model of the Galaxy Nexus unlocked anywhere??? Its either I wait to get it when im there or I can just buy a Galaxy Note model now..
This is a bit ridiculous of google having all this advertising, pretty looking girls smiling into the camera using the phone etc and having absolutely no info on where/when/what (32gig GSM or only 16g??)
Dont advertise until ALL the details are available, it just pisses off people who want one!
(and why must Samsung always leave out one bit from each phone, no galaxy notes with nfc available yet? and nexus with no sdcard if the note had nfc/ics i'd get it now instead of the nexus)
Interesting to see that the UK Galaxy nexus page shows tech specs of 32 gb.
As long a 32 gb hspa+ is release, either in UK or US, i don't care. The phone is pentaband.....
droiduser said:
Im holidaying in the US of A near the end of December, will it be possible for me to buy a 32gig 3g/gsm/hsdpa etc etc model of the Galaxy Nexus unlocked anywhere??? Its either I wait to get it when im there or I can just buy a Galaxy Note model now..
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There is no indication whatsoever that Google will sell an unlocked GSM version in the US. The only info we have now is the CDMA/LTE Verizon version for the states.
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Interesting to see that the UK Galaxy nexus page shows tech specs of 32 gb.
As long a 32 gb hspa+ is release, either in UK or US, i don't care. The phone is pentaband.....
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indeed, very interesting. I checked it yesterday and I am sure it said 16GB....
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indeed, very interesting. I checked it yesterday and I am sure it said 16GB....
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It did -- then it said 32GB yesterday, and it's back to 16GB today. This is dizzying! And maddening for those of us with our hearts set on a 32GB HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus.
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As long a 32 gb hspa+ is release, either in UK or US, i don't care. The phone is pentaband.....
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+1
I need a GSM 32GB...
I don't want to get it months later though
Handtec has a listing for the 32GB GSM model, and predicts an after New Years launch. When asked if they know for sure, they said Samsung hasn't told them anything
best guess it'll be sometimes in March 2012 before you see it's appearance for the 32GB GSM version
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/edwardbaig/story/2011-11-17/samsung-galaxy-nexus/51269246/1
Good news for T-Mobile and AT&T
Actually READ the article, it clearly states the phone is running on a T-Mobile SIM Card. Hardly misleading. Hell most of you were confirming Verizon based on a damn logo in a picture.
Rythmyc said:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/edwardbaig/story/2011-11-17/samsung-galaxy-nexus/51269246/1
Good news for T-Mobile and AT&T
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according to this its not etched in stone
http://an.droid-life.com/2011/11/17...interested-in-the-galaxy-nexus/#disqus_thread
by the way the article doesnt show anything we did not already know
It says " which happens to be compatible with T-Mobile and AT&T networks. " doesn't necessarily mean that they are selling it.
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Rythmyc said:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/edwardbaig/story/2011-11-17/samsung-galaxy-nexus/51269246/1
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Your post title is HORRIBLY misleading.
There is NOTHING in the article that confirms AT&T or T-Mobile variants of the Galaxy Nexus.
fdm1 said:
It says " which happens to be compatible with T-Mobile and AT&T networks. " doesn't necessarily mean that they are selling it.
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Actually it said
"But my test version, provided by Google just a day ago, relied on a T-Mobile SIM card tapping into an HSPA + network."
Which sounds more like it would be sold by tmobile at least.
I could be wrong though.
It's been posted elsewhere that the GSM version works on those networks. I read the article as simply meaning that the test model the reviewer was given was gsm, not lte.
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Mannn and I got all excited and everything
Was hoping for good news after the verizon bloatware thread
Wodude said:
Actually it said
"But my test version, provided by Google just a day ago, relied on a T-Mobile SIM card tapping into an HSPA + network."
Which sounds more like it would be sold by tmobile at least.
I could be wrong though.
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Though I'd love for that to be the case, I really don't see how that is any indicator that T-Mo will be picking it up and selling it themselves. All that the above quote tells us is that the HSPA+ model is compatible with T-Mo's airwaves.
This thread is incredibly badly titled, given the huge assumption made by the OP :\
Thanks for the enormous cocktease.
I went to my Tmobile store and asked when they might get the Galaxy Nexus. The manager told me that Tmobile was not going to get this phone in their stores but it would be sold at Best Buy at some point. I went to Best Buy and asked them and of course they knew nothing about it. Why do they want to make it so hard for me to buy the darn phone? Makes no sense.
Close this misleading redundant thread !
This is very selfish of me but I hope it doesn't come to T-mobile. I want to buy this unlocked from overseas and use it with T-mobile and my legacy data plan. If T-mobile starts carrying it, they might end up filtering the device and force me to buy their more expensive, Android-compatible data plan.
nexus14 said:
This is very selfish of me but I hope it doesn't come to T-mobile. I want to buy this unlocked from overseas and use it with T-mobile and my legacy data plan. If T-mobile starts carrying it, they might end up filtering the device and force me to buy their more expensive, Android-compatible data plan.
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pretty stupid, if you buy the unlocked version in the US it'll save you a tonne of money.
I personally love the *CONFIRMED* portion of the title. You read one vague article and suddenly this is confirmed.
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Wodude said:
Mannn and I got all excited and everything
Was hoping for good news after the verizon bloatware thread
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The Bloatware thread WAS good news ... for us that await the GSM Nexus in the US with absolutely no news ..and while every1 else enjoys their nexus >.>
*drowns in envy*
steevo1 said:
Why do they want to make it so hard for me
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That's what she said...
GatorsUF said:
I personally love the *CONFIRMED* portion of the title. You read one vague article and suddenly this is confirmed.
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u r really funny dude
Engadget was able to use both Tmo and AT&T SIMs successfully. Just thought I'd share. It shouldn't surprise anyone though considering the radios support both on paper. At this point, it would be nice to see when ANY carrier in the US will be selling this phone.
dubya dubya dubya . engadget . com/2011/11/17/google-galaxy-nexus-hspa-first-impressions-video/
(Sorry for the url formatting, long time forum reader, hindered by 8 post limit to link outside links.)
nexus14 said:
This is very selfish of me but I hope it doesn't come to T-mobile. I want to buy this unlocked from overseas and use it with T-mobile and my legacy data plan. If T-mobile starts carrying it, they might end up filtering the device and force me to buy their more expensive, Android-compatible data plan.
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I am in similar opinion, I hope it doesn't come to Att but that way I can make fun of my friends!
OP, close this lying thread please...
Dmw017 said:
..and while every1 else enjoys their nexus >.>
*drowns in envy*
That's what she said...
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think of it this way.. is it REALLY a Nexus with bloatware? not me. its a galaxy phone
Though this may come as no surprise to some we have just received word from a very very good source that an unconfirmed number of AT&T SIM Cards (RS# 17-0700 and likely 4G LTE) for the Galaxy Nexus are going out for testing as we speak. Curiously the SIMS are standard and not the micro like Verizon Wireless. This means of course we can finally certify the release of Samsung and Google’s latest collaboration will be hitting AT&T in the very near term. I have to protect my source but this is coming from very close to the situation. We will keep you posted as more details come about. Are you on AT&T and have been waiting for the the official release of the G-Nex you can count on it soon enough. We broke this right here and we expect to be credited this time. Thanks.
Update: Our tipster just added that the SKU for these SIM cards is 73057 and that they do seem to be 4G LTE enabled!!!!
Excelsior
Thanks Buddy… you know who you are.
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http://www.androrev.com/2012/04/03/confirmed-galaxy-nexus-on-the-way-to-att/
wonder what rom can run on this version ...
i doubt it'll sell too well tho
whoever wanted the GN in the US would have bought the GN already ....
Interesting.
It's the same thing that happened to the Nexus S, ATT was late to the game getting that that phone too.
lsxrx7 said:
http://www.androrev.com/2012/04/03/confirmed-galaxy-nexus-on-the-way-to-att/
i doubt it'll sell too well tho
whoever wanted the GN in the US would have bought the GN already ....
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True but the AT&T version will have LTE and the unlocked international version does not.
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i doubt it'll sell too well tho
whoever wanted the GN in the US would have bought the GN already ....
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LOL.
Since when are sims phone specific?
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True but the AT&T version will have LTE and the unlocked international version does not.
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Bet you $50 it's only HSPA+. Note, that the email only said it was "likely" LTE. They're speculating. Then note that they're using MiniSIM not micro. The whole reason why they use MicroSIM in Toro is because they couldn't fit the LTE antennas and logic chips and the full sized SIM in the already larger housing.
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Since when are sims phone specific?
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Yeah kinda strange.
When I switched to the LTE-enabled data plan with an LTE phone IMEI number, they had to give me a new LTE SIM for my GSM GN. So maybe the article meant LTE SIM going to the field with GN test units?
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Bet you $50 it's only HSPA+. Note, that the email only said it was "likely" LTE. They're speculating. Then note that they're using MiniSIM not micro. The whole reason why they use MicroSIM in Toro is because they couldn't fit the LTE antennas and logic chips and the full sized SIM in the already larger housing.
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From the article:
"Update: Our tipster just added that the SKU for these SIM cards is 73057 and that they do seem to be 4G LTE enabled!!!!"
Oh perfect, hopefully some sucker on CL will trade me for it lol
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ATnTdude said:
Bet you $50 it's only HSPA+. Note, that the email only said it was "likely" LTE. They're speculating. Then note that they're using MiniSIM not micro. The whole reason why they use MicroSIM in Toro is because they couldn't fit the LTE antennas and logic chips and the full sized SIM in the already larger housing.
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I think you are right.
After receiving my new GN last Friday, I went to the local AT&T store to get a data plan. Contrary to AT&T ads there is no 4G in South Florida. My phone gets what is available: H+. I just had to move the Sim card from my Nexus One to the GN.
Since my Galaxy Nexus is not an AT&T I have no obligation to buy a data plan. I might drop mine after reading the speedtest
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Since our entire post has been repasted here i felt the need to clarify. The SIMS are not at all phone specific and not sure how that was insinuated in the post. There is more information I may be cleared to release as to why it was necessary for these SIMS to go out and an enterprising mind that thinks on it for a while can probably figure it out. The problem is I cannot yet tell folks where the SIMS were coming from and where they were going. I also know how many SIMS there were. If I get cleared to release that info I promise to update the information. Lets for the sake of argument put the SIM card aspect aside. The important part is the document in question confirms the existence of the handset in question. Number one rule of journalism is protect your source. If i gave out that information that would put him/her at considerable risk. I promise there will be more info soon.
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The SIMS are not at all phone specific and not sure how that was insinuated in the post.
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I've read it a few times. It indeed insinuates that, even if not intentional.
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I've read it a few times. It indeed insinuates that, even if not intentional.
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Several thousand people have read it and not everyone came away with the sims are galaxy nexus specific especially since we provide the sku number. They are regular ATT LTE sims and I will update the post to clarify this. Do with the rest of the information from my last reply what you will.
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"Update: Our tipster just added that the SKU for these SIM cards is 73057 and that they do seem to be 4G LTE enabled!!!!"
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It would be shocking if AT&T wasn't buying USIM's without a LTE logo. Yes, logo. There is no physical difference between a UMTS 3G USIM and one used in LTE devices.
SOURCE: Gemalto, who makes most of the SIM's for AT&T
Damn and I just paid $498 for a GSM to use on AT&T. However LTE in my area is delayed so LTE model would be useless to me. Plus AT&T branding and bloat ware Yuck!
I have two upgrades in May due. If anything Id rather get a One X for $199 hopefully to try out and still keep my Nexus. Never tried Sense so who knows. I really just like the look and screen quality of the One X. I could always sell it for $500 if it doesn't work out.
ATnTdude said:
It would be shocking if AT&T wasn't buying USIM's without a LTE logo. Yes, logo. There is no physical difference between a UMTS 3G USIM and one used in LTE devices.
SOURCE: Gemalto, who makes most of the SIM's for AT&T
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we have photographs of these sims with no LTE logo thanks to our friends at radio shack so im sorry that is not entirely true. Also we know these SIMS have been being used since the 4th quarter of last year so we are aware that there is no difference. For some of you there won't be truth to it until the phone is announced but it's funny those are the people who scrutinize speculation the most. We have clarified the original story on our site for those people and for now we will wait and see. I'm only here commenting because my story is here. I don't care to convince anyone specific of it's validity, as for our readers, us reporting it makes it valid enough.
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we have photographs of these sims with no LTE logo thanks to our friends at radio shack so im sorry that is not entirely true. Also we know these SIMS have been being used since the 4th quarter of last year so we are aware that there is no difference. For some of you there won't be truth to it until the phone is announced but it's funny those are the people who scrutinize speculation the most. We have clarified the original story on our site for those people and for now we will wait and see. I'm only here commenting because my story is here. I don't care to convince anyone specific of it's validity, as for our readers, us reporting it makes it valid enough.
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I don't care either way but,
I don't care to convince anyone specific of it's validity, as for our readers, us reporting it makes it valid enough.
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is hardly convincing anyone. Blogs get things wrong all the time. Blogs that have exclusives that no others can validate tend to get them wrong more often.
So I hope you are right, but will not be shocked if you are not.
Posts 11, 12, 13, and 16 part of the answer is in post 10
So unless someone has pictures of the device, sales materials, etc.... how is this a "confirmed" rumor?
5 bucks says only the 16GB version will be available.
....I remember reading about a month ago that Samsung has stopped producing the 32 GB version and will focus on a 16 GB version to promote cloud storage. Hopefully its BS for you ATT guys and girls. Watch for it none the less.
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The 4g variant is supposed to have esim yet I do not see anything in the settings to allow adding a new service.. Any clue about esim functionality?
I do not believe the U.S. version of the Galaxy Fold supports dual-sim; it only has one sim and it uses a nano-sim. Have you called AT&T to find out if there is in fact eSim support?
It definitely has an esim, you can see it imei in about phone.
Edit* That said i don't know how to use it.
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It definitely has an esim, you can see it imei in about phone.
Edit* That said i don't know how to use it.
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To activate it you would need to call your carrier and provide the eSim IMEI number to them. The phone may support eSim but AT&T itself might not. I'd like to know though if they do coz' that's the only reason why I haven't purchased that phone yet. Other specs I read mentions both eSim and Nano Sim and calls it "Dual Sim" but for some reason for the Folds Best Buy and AT&T only labels it as "Single Sim". Samsungs USA website does the same thing but their international sites identifies the phone as eSim and Nano sim capable.
I believe all Fold LTE versions has the same hardware and only difference are carrier supported features.
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I believe all Fold LTE versions has the same hardware and only difference are carrier supported features.
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I know they don't plan on releasing the 5G version in the U.S. and only the LTE version but you are probably correct with your statement. The U.S. LTE version could be the same as the ones they are releasing across the world and supports dual sim but AT&T might not just support it. I guess will know for sure when someone calls AT&T's support and attempts to enable the eSim feature. I personally got mixed answers from reps at the stores as they are not too familiar with the Fold's feature yet. If it was a cheap phone I'd probably still try and take my chances but for a $2,000 phone I'd like to know for sure first that I can use the eSim and Nano sim on it and have two lines running before buying one.
We got our answer! Published just hours ago at PCMag: https://sea.pcmag.com/smartphones/34287/samsung-galaxy-fold
"The Samsung Galaxy Fold is available unlocked directly from Samsung Experience stores and some Best Buy locations, as well as locked to AT&T from some carrier stores. It works on all US networks and supports LTE bands 2/4/5/7/12/13/14/25/26/30/38/41/66/71. There's a nano SIM slot as well as an eSIM, though Samsung states the eSIM is only compatible with European carriers at this time"
There has to be a way to activate it, I wonder if we can find the info somewhere
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There has to be a way to activate it, I wonder if we can find the info somewhere
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Good luck with "messing up the firmware" of you expensive Fold...
Just accept e-SIM is not activated in the US!
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There has to be a way to activate it, I wonder if we can find the info somewhere
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It won't hurt nor will it mess up your phone to try. T-mobile supports eSim for both postpaid and prepaid customers, Verizon supports it for postpaid, and AT&T (I believe) supports it for both prepaid and postpaid too. But since AT&T carries the Fold there may be a chance that it won't work with them. All they need is the IMEI of the eSim chip anyway, and all you need to do is provide it to them. If their systems accepts it then good but if not then you simply just continue using your nano sim.
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We got our answer! Published just hours ago at PCMag:
"The Samsung Galaxy Fold is available unlocked directly from Samsung Experience stores and some Best Buy locations, as well as locked to AT&T from some carrier stores. It works on all US networks and supports LTE bands 2/4/5/7/12/13/14/25/26/30/38/41/66/71. There's a nano SIM slot as well as an eSIM, though Samsung states the eSIM is only compatible with European carriers at this time"
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Thats wrong. Bought a Sm-F900F (U.K.) version unlocked thru amazon for U.S. use and got esim setup for tmobile.
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Thats wrong. Bought a Sm-F900F (U.K.) version unlocked thru amazon for U.S. use and got esim setup for tmobile.
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Looks like you didn't understand the thread or didn't read the PCMag article. The quote was accurate because it was referring to the U.S. version of the phone. You bought the U.K. version and that indeed is a dual-sim phone.
I actually personally verified that at a Best Buy store in the U.S. When I checked the network settings the eSim feature is grayed out. It is showing an IMEI but is grayed out and cannot be activate. I also got to touch the Singapore version which is a dual sim version like yours and that didn't have the eSim grayed out.
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Looks like you didn't understand the thread or didn't read the PCMag article. The quote was accurate because it was referring to the U.S. version of the phone. You bought the U.K. version and that indeed is a dual-sim phone.
I actually personally verified that at a Best Buy store in the U.S. When I checked the network settings the eSim feature is grayed out. It is showing an IMEI but is grayed out and cannot be activate. I also got to touch the Singapore version which is a dual sim version like yours and that didn't have the eSim grayed out.
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Still wrongnIt's being software blocked on the att variant if you Odin flash a different firmware it works and many ppl have it running like att on reg sim and TMobile on esim there's even a whole tutorial on how to do it which I posted in a thread I created. Also if the phones didn't have esim there wouldn't be a esim IMEI in the about phone . American carriers are just greedy money hungry leeches.
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Still wrongnIt's being software blocked on the att variant if you Odin flash a different firmware it works and many ppl have it running like att on reg sim and TMobile on esim there's even a whole tutorial on how to do it which I posted in a thread I created. Also if the phones didn't have esim there wouldn't be a esim IMEI in the about phone . American carriers are just greedy money hungry leeches.
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So..if i Odin flash the international firmware then the esim will work? Wheres the thread discussing this? I'm all in if true.
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Still wrongnIt's being software blocked on the att variant if you Odin flash a different firmware it works and many ppl have it running like att on reg sim and TMobile on esim there's even a whole tutorial on how to do it which I posted in a thread I created. Also if the phones didn't have esim there wouldn't be a esim IMEI in the about phone . American carriers are just greedy money hungry leeches.
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Well the article doesn't market to techies but normal people that would be buying the phone so it referred to the facts and facts are never wrong.
But I agree with you, the hardware is there and they are just greedy to not allow the eSim to be used. Where is that thread you said you created because I've been researching that method for quite sometime now and didn't find any? I don't even know a single person that has successfully flashed it and even went to Asian cellphone stores that does phone repairs and they couldn't flash the fold. I would love to read that thread if what you're saying is true.
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Well the article doesn't market to techies but normal people that would be buying the phone so it referred to the facts and facts are never wrong.
But I agree with you, the hardware is there and they are just greedy to not allow the eSim to be used. Where is that thread you said you created because I've been researching that method for quite sometime now and didn't find any? I don't even know a single person that has successfully flashed it and even went to Asian cellphone stores that does phone repairs and they couldn't flash the fold. I would love to read that thread if what you're saying is true.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/help/e-sim-t4011541
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/help/e-sim-t4011541
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LoL! Just what I thought. That thread you said that you started with full instructions on how to do it was started just yesterday after we asked for it. Furthermore, the link you said didn't show any flashing instructions, and worse, I couldn't find the "many people" you claimed have done it on that Reddit post. In fact, "many people" have claimed what I said that the AT&T versions/U.S. Fold versions does not support eSim functionality.
Bring the ego a little down low man, this forum is meant to help everyone and not disagree with people or claim that their posts are wrong specially if you cannot provide factual counterclaims.
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LoL! Just what I thought. That thread you said that you started with full instructions on how to do it was started just yesterday after we asked for it. Furthermore, the link you said didn't show any flashing instructions, and worse, I couldn't find the "many people" you claimed have done it on that Reddit post. In fact, "many people" have claimed what I said that the AT&T versions/U.S. Fold versions does not support eSim functionality.
Bring the ego a little down low man, this forum is meant to help everyone and not disagree with people or claim that their posts are wrong specially if you cannot provide factual counterclaims.
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I didn't say the many people were in that thread. The instructions I was referring to were the actually activating the esim once you have the options available. And I said off jump out the box att doesn't (although 2 ppl did say it was active out the box for them) but if you flash it should open it up. And I didn't time frame when I made the post. I did make it before I seen this thread. But in either way the time it was made is irrelevant. All I was saying was that I had made one.
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I didn't say the many people were in that thread. The instructions I was referring to were the actually activating the esim once you have the options available. And I said off jump out the box att doesn't (although 2 ppl did say it was active out the box for them) but if you flash it should open it up. And I didn't time frame when I made the post. I did make it before I seen this thread. But in either way the time it was made is irrelevant. All I was saying was that I had made one.
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Do you know if there is any change in the eSIM information for the F900U units in the US? Some conflicting information. Not sure, if flashing unlocked firmware enables it.
hello, anyone flashed the international firmware & got the e-SIM option rolling?