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[INFO] Good news for WIFI calling!

so i work at a tmobile store in Southern Orange County.. and i had a tmobile engineer come up to me today asking for the new sim cards our GS2 ... he then showed me a "manufacture testing" tmobile galaxy S2 and wouldnt you believe it .. it had the wifi calling setting under wireless & networks i almost wet my panties !! lol but he was telling me that its very close to coming to our samsungs ... prob by the beginning of next week . He also mentioned that the reason for the push back was because the overall quality of the wifi calls were horrible and consistently dropped out.. he also informed me that one of the head internal engineers stopped working for them and went over to HTC , so we can put all the blame on "her". haha anyways just my 2 cents

of course i immediatly tried thinking of ways to back up his Rom somehow lmao without having root on it .... but he was a lil prissy pants and had to leave .

Good news. Thanks! I hope it is actually next week and not delayed again. My service at home sucks!
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FYI, modded ROM's for the Amaze already have it working. I was using it before I sold my Amaze for the G2.

If there was a Samsung phone that's had working wifi calling it would be easy to get it going on this phone. The amaze guys probably got it from the sensation and made it work
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FYI, modded ROM's for the Amaze already have it working. I was using it before I sold my Amaze for the G2.
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the galaxy s 4g has a working wifi calling app. I know, I used to have one!

mikeyinid said:
If there was a Samsung phone that's had working wifi calling it would be easy to get it going on this phone. The amaze guys probably got it from the sensation and made it work
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All first gen Galaxy S phones had it. Well i didn't have the ATT or Verizon variants but the Euro GS and Vibrant (TMo) both had it and worked really well. The Nexus S however has never had it even though many people have worked on it. Sounds like it's coming for the GS2 and that's good news because mine gets here wednesday or Friday.

Thanks for the info, I hope this information is correct.
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Anyone sign up for this yet? It's out on the tmobile site now.

eMace said:
Anyone sign up for this yet? It's out on the tmobile site now.
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just signed up. We'll see what happens.
BTW its under the "Extra Minutes" tab when adding new services.

Signed up as well. Doubt this magically unlocks anything on the phone but I've been wrong before...

sign up for what? what am i looking for...i have an online tmo account but no clue what i am looking for

He was right the reason we don't have if yet is because its a new version .older versions wont work

calimove said:
sign up for what? what am i looking for...i have an online tmo account but no clue what i am looking for
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Have no clue what they're talking about.

i don't have this option under my account either...

calimove said:
sign up for what? what am i looking for...i have an online tmo account but no clue what i am looking for
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I think they're speaking of adding the "free wifi calling" to your account.
I'm just sayin!

When you go to your my.t-mobile account and go to add services, there's a section called"extra minutes" and under that free wifi calling. Sounds like not everyone is seeing it though for some reason.

Thanks for sharing yep I don't have that service to add either.

The question is though, does adding this feature online actually enable some kind of wifi calling when using wifi? And how do toggle it on our phones?
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jonjon68 said:
All first gen Galaxy S phones had it. Well i didn't have the ATT or Verizon variants but the Euro GS and Vibrant (TMo) both had it and worked really well. The Nexus S however has never had it even though many people have worked on it. Sounds like it's coming for the GS2 and that's good news because mine gets here wednesday or Friday.
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Tmo phones get wifi calling support.
Nexus phones are google, so no wifi calling out of the box.
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Confirmed : Galaxy Nexus On The Way To ATT with 4G LTE

Though this may come as no surprise to some we have just received word from a very very good source that an unconfirmed number of AT&T SIM Cards (RS# 17-0700 and likely 4G LTE) for the Galaxy Nexus are going out for testing as we speak. Curiously the SIMS are standard and not the micro like Verizon Wireless. This means of course we can finally certify the release of Samsung and Google’s latest collaboration will be hitting AT&T in the very near term. I have to protect my source but this is coming from very close to the situation. We will keep you posted as more details come about. Are you on AT&T and have been waiting for the the official release of the G-Nex you can count on it soon enough. We broke this right here and we expect to be credited this time. Thanks.
Update: Our tipster just added that the SKU for these SIM cards is 73057 and that they do seem to be 4G LTE enabled!!!!
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Thanks Buddy… you know who you are.
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http://www.androrev.com/2012/04/03/confirmed-galaxy-nexus-on-the-way-to-att/
wonder what rom can run on this version ...
i doubt it'll sell too well tho
whoever wanted the GN in the US would have bought the GN already ....

Interesting.
It's the same thing that happened to the Nexus S, ATT was late to the game getting that that phone too.

lsxrx7 said:
http://www.androrev.com/2012/04/03/confirmed-galaxy-nexus-on-the-way-to-att/
i doubt it'll sell too well tho
whoever wanted the GN in the US would have bought the GN already ....
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True but the AT&T version will have LTE and the unlocked international version does not.

lsxrx7 said:
i doubt it'll sell too well tho
whoever wanted the GN in the US would have bought the GN already ....
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LOL.

Since when are sims phone specific?

NextNexus said:
True but the AT&T version will have LTE and the unlocked international version does not.
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Bet you $50 it's only HSPA+. Note, that the email only said it was "likely" LTE. They're speculating. Then note that they're using MiniSIM not micro. The whole reason why they use MicroSIM in Toro is because they couldn't fit the LTE antennas and logic chips and the full sized SIM in the already larger housing.

adrynalyne said:
Since when are sims phone specific?
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Yeah kinda strange.
When I switched to the LTE-enabled data plan with an LTE phone IMEI number, they had to give me a new LTE SIM for my GSM GN. So maybe the article meant LTE SIM going to the field with GN test units?

ATnTdude said:
Bet you $50 it's only HSPA+. Note, that the email only said it was "likely" LTE. They're speculating. Then note that they're using MiniSIM not micro. The whole reason why they use MicroSIM in Toro is because they couldn't fit the LTE antennas and logic chips and the full sized SIM in the already larger housing.
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From the article:
"Update: Our tipster just added that the SKU for these SIM cards is 73057 and that they do seem to be 4G LTE enabled!!!!"

Oh perfect, hopefully some sucker on CL will trade me for it lol
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ATnTdude said:
Bet you $50 it's only HSPA+. Note, that the email only said it was "likely" LTE. They're speculating. Then note that they're using MiniSIM not micro. The whole reason why they use MicroSIM in Toro is because they couldn't fit the LTE antennas and logic chips and the full sized SIM in the already larger housing.
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I think you are right.
After receiving my new GN last Friday, I went to the local AT&T store to get a data plan. Contrary to AT&T ads there is no 4G in South Florida. My phone gets what is available: H+. I just had to move the Sim card from my Nexus One to the GN.
Since my Galaxy Nexus is not an AT&T I have no obligation to buy a data plan. I might drop mine after reading the speedtest

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Since our entire post has been repasted here i felt the need to clarify. The SIMS are not at all phone specific and not sure how that was insinuated in the post. There is more information I may be cleared to release as to why it was necessary for these SIMS to go out and an enterprising mind that thinks on it for a while can probably figure it out. The problem is I cannot yet tell folks where the SIMS were coming from and where they were going. I also know how many SIMS there were. If I get cleared to release that info I promise to update the information. Lets for the sake of argument put the SIM card aspect aside. The important part is the document in question confirms the existence of the handset in question. Number one rule of journalism is protect your source. If i gave out that information that would put him/her at considerable risk. I promise there will be more info soon.

Kidromulous said:
The SIMS are not at all phone specific and not sure how that was insinuated in the post.
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I've read it a few times. It indeed insinuates that, even if not intentional.

adrynalyne said:
I've read it a few times. It indeed insinuates that, even if not intentional.
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Several thousand people have read it and not everyone came away with the sims are galaxy nexus specific especially since we provide the sku number. They are regular ATT LTE sims and I will update the post to clarify this. Do with the rest of the information from my last reply what you will.

NextNexus said:
From the article:
"Update: Our tipster just added that the SKU for these SIM cards is 73057 and that they do seem to be 4G LTE enabled!!!!"
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It would be shocking if AT&T wasn't buying USIM's without a LTE logo. Yes, logo. There is no physical difference between a UMTS 3G USIM and one used in LTE devices.
SOURCE: Gemalto, who makes most of the SIM's for AT&T

Damn and I just paid $498 for a GSM to use on AT&T. However LTE in my area is delayed so LTE model would be useless to me. Plus AT&T branding and bloat ware Yuck!
I have two upgrades in May due. If anything Id rather get a One X for $199 hopefully to try out and still keep my Nexus. Never tried Sense so who knows. I really just like the look and screen quality of the One X. I could always sell it for $500 if it doesn't work out.

ATnTdude said:
It would be shocking if AT&T wasn't buying USIM's without a LTE logo. Yes, logo. There is no physical difference between a UMTS 3G USIM and one used in LTE devices.
SOURCE: Gemalto, who makes most of the SIM's for AT&T
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we have photographs of these sims with no LTE logo thanks to our friends at radio shack so im sorry that is not entirely true. Also we know these SIMS have been being used since the 4th quarter of last year so we are aware that there is no difference. For some of you there won't be truth to it until the phone is announced but it's funny those are the people who scrutinize speculation the most. We have clarified the original story on our site for those people and for now we will wait and see. I'm only here commenting because my story is here. I don't care to convince anyone specific of it's validity, as for our readers, us reporting it makes it valid enough.
Good day sir

Kidromulous said:
we have photographs of these sims with no LTE logo thanks to our friends at radio shack so im sorry that is not entirely true. Also we know these SIMS have been being used since the 4th quarter of last year so we are aware that there is no difference. For some of you there won't be truth to it until the phone is announced but it's funny those are the people who scrutinize speculation the most. We have clarified the original story on our site for those people and for now we will wait and see. I'm only here commenting because my story is here. I don't care to convince anyone specific of it's validity, as for our readers, us reporting it makes it valid enough.
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I don't care either way but,
I don't care to convince anyone specific of it's validity, as for our readers, us reporting it makes it valid enough.
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is hardly convincing anyone. Blogs get things wrong all the time. Blogs that have exclusives that no others can validate tend to get them wrong more often.
So I hope you are right, but will not be shocked if you are not.

Posts 11, 12, 13, and 16 part of the answer is in post 10

So unless someone has pictures of the device, sales materials, etc.... how is this a "confirmed" rumor?

5 bucks says only the 16GB version will be available.
....I remember reading about a month ago that Samsung has stopped producing the 32 GB version and will focus on a 16 GB version to promote cloud storage. Hopefully its BS for you ATT guys and girls. Watch for it none the less.
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LTE enabled.

Hi all, Iam about to upgrade my Desire S and have been looking at Galaxy S III. I have just had a chat to Trish at Tmobile UK and she offered a great deal on a new Samsung but when I asked if it would be LTE enabled out of the box or a software upgrade she said it wouldn't be enabled and couldn't give any date if it could be. So I will give it a few weeks and then ask again.

This is a dumb question. Lock and ban!
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There's no such thing as dumb questions. If you're in the UK I'm pretty sure your phone already canes LTE enable unlike the our version. If it doesn't come with the latest update you can simply update it yourself
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deviusdragger said:
This is a dumb question. Lock and ban!
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Nice thing to say in the Q&A section
If your phone is a international quad core then it will never have LTE because it does not have the hardware to support it.
The US dual core Snapdragon 4 phones have the hardware in them and should already support it.
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ward360 said:
Nice thing to say in the Q&A section
If your phone is a international quad core then it will never have LTE because it does not have the hardware to support it.
The US dual core Snapdragon 4 phones have the hardware in them and should already support it.
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Actually...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/05/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-lte-korea-launch-date-july-9th/

ward360 said:
Nice thing to say in the Q&A section
If your phone is a international quad core then it will never have LTE because it does not have the hardware to support it.
The US dual core Snapdragon 4 phones have the hardware in them and should already support it.
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This is general.. but you are correct. But the T-Mobile US S3 does NOT AND NEVER WILL have LTE. The t999 does not have LTE hardware.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/05/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-lte-korea-launch-date-july-9th/
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That's different. The i9300 will also never have LTE. The i9305 does however.
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Not this topic again did OP even ask a q? Or just tell us what happened with the rep?

The reason I contacted Tmobile UK is that we are about to get 4G and they are pushing it in adverts. Tmobile and Orange are to be named EE, this is the Email :-
Superfast is on its way
Hello John
Everything Everywhere, the company behind T-Mobile and Orange is about to launch a new brand called EE.
EE is the new brand for a digital age and will offer the UK's first mobile 4G network and Fibre Broadband for the home, along with the UK's biggest 3G network. 4G will give you superfast internet on the move, making things like downloads, Facebook® and YouTube™ unbelievably quick.
It's all good news for you
As a T-Mobile customer you'll now use EE's new 3G network, the biggest in the UK. Soon you'll start to see EE on your phone screen.
We will be replacing your local T-Mobile and Orange stores with exciting new EE stores, giving you access to almost twice as many stores as today. These EE stores will be staffed by teams of brilliantly helpful people – including specialists in smartphones and systems like Apple, BlackBerry®, Android and Microsoft.
As part of these changes, if you pay by Direct Debit, you'll notice that the name on your bank statement will change to "EE and T-Mobile" within the next two months.
Still the T-Mobile you know and love
You will continue to be a T-Mobile customer. Everything you love about T-Mobile will stay exactly the same. You'll still enjoy the same great value, and your number and plan details won't change either. If you have any further questions you'll find the answers here
Be one of the first to know
Be one of the first to find out about all the great things EE has to offer, including how to move from T-Mobile to EE to start enjoying 4G as soon as it's ready. Sign up now
It's going to be great
T-Mobile
I didn't want to lumber myself with a phone on a two year contract, so it's not a dumb question for us over here. Thanks for the other replies.

It says new 3G network? I'm really confused.. I think your best bet is to change the thread title and put UK so people know what you're talking about. The difference between the US and UK is pretty huge. You're not going to get much help because the LTE in the US on tmo topic has been beaten to death.
Come on people CLEAR thread titles! Please!!

I still stand behind my post. People should research what is LTE and how it works.
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I did research, have a look here :-
h t t p://www.t-mobile.co.uk/ee/?wt.mc_id=OFF_TMUK_V_ee&wt.tsrc=Vanity
h t t p://ee.co.uk/?wt.mc_id=ON_TMUK_C_breakcover-consumer&wt.tsrc=cross%20brand
I don't know if live links are allowed. Just take out the spaces.
You will see they have several phones which are LTE enabled. So they are saying it's going to work but the reply from Trish not yet. So I was hoping that someone here and some have given me the info. Your reply was US based and what I wanted was a UK answer.

I already answered it. The i9300 does NOT have LTE. The i9305 does. These are UK phones.
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Thanks joshnichols for that.
It's just we over here are getting crossed info and I didn't want to get locked into a long contract with a phone that may or may not work on their network, if it takes a few weeks so be it.
Thanks all.
Thread closed.

Bounty for hero who will make Sprint LG G2 LS980 working with non-USA GSM service!

Hello!
I've ordered from USA few Spring LG G2 LS980. And after I've discovered that they actually DON'T WORK with GSM,despite the fact that it is stated in specifications!
I don't want to sell them as a tablet (without possibility to make calls), so I'm going to pay $50 to hero, who can make LS980 accept foreign GSM SIM cards and fully work with them!
Anyone who also can also donate for this good thing - reply to thread!!
Update 1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2386703 Here is the link for solution of the same problem with different phone - HTC One for Sprint ! Maybe someone can port that solution to LS980 ??
Message from Moderators: XDA allows a bounty thread but we do not get involved with arbitrating between donators and receivers. So, make a deal at your own risk.
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Lol
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Univsoldur said:
Lol
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What's funny??

Hopefully this will help you but please don't generate any threads that are not necessary to keep the development section clean.
1) Contact Sprint to unlock your phone (or any other ways that you find to unlock the phone)
2) Pop in the Non US GSM nano sim card into the phone (there's a slot to the left of the phone)
3) Profit. Now where's my bounty?

Thread Moved out of the Development Section to here.....thanks.

I hope you realize that the 4G or whatever high speed technology works in the other countries will not work with the G2. You'll get 3G if you're lucky.
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kamikrazeguy said:
Hopefully this will help you but please don't generate any threads that are not necessary to keep the development section clean.
1) Contact Sprint to unlock your phone (or any other ways that you find to unlock the phone)
2) Pop in the Non US GSM nano sim card into the phone (there's a slot to the left of the phone)
3) Profit. Now where's my bounty?
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I believe part of the problem is that Sprint is not giving out the unlock codes. Only if you are a current customer, with the phone active. I've seen a few people post of this very issue.
I thought there are websites that unlock these features though. It appears its a hard task to accomplish. Best of luck to those trying to get this resolved though.
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comk4ver said:
I hope you realize that the 4G or whatever high speed technology works in the other countries will not work with the G2. You'll get 3G if you're lucky.
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Well that's not a problem at all! I would be happy to make it work in even 2G but GSM!!
I've got Verizon's version of LG G2 - VS980 - and it's factory unlocked to ALL gsm operators WORLDWIDE! God bless Verizon Wireless! And punch Sprint please))

Verizon would not have don't it but the fcc mandated that from a spectrum divest they got ..
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Actually, if I recall correctly...Sprint pushes the unlock over the air. I don't think they give a code.

Sprint will unlock the device for GSM capabilities for carriers OUTSIDE the US. But will not allow the LS-980 to be used on T-Mobile, or AT&T.

Ascertion said:
Sprint will unlock the device for GSM capabilities for carriers OUTSIDE the US. But will not allow the LS-980 to be used on T-Mobile, or AT&T.
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I'm OUTSIDE the US, how can I unlock if I have LS980 with Bad ESN and I'm NOT their client of course???

Try this:
on your dialer type *#*#4636#*#* now your in the TEST MENU go to first option from the top (information about telephone)
slide all the way down and set preferred network type to GSM (auto) or LTE/GSM/WCDMA (wait for around 30-60 sec)
I dont know will this work for you or not but its worth to try. And this will be gone after restarting your phone.
Ramonsterator said:
Hello!
I've ordered from USA few Spring LG G2 LS980. And after I've discovered that they actually DON'T WORK with GSM,despite the fact that it is stated in specifications!
I don't want to sell them as a tablet (without possibility to make calls), so I'm going to pay $50 to hero, who can make LS980 accept foreign GSM SIM cards and fully work with them!
Anyone who also can also donate for this good thing - reply to thread!!
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Ramonsterator said:
I'm OUTSIDE the US, how can I unlock if I have LS980 with Bad ESN and I'm NOT their client of course???
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Better idea... STOP BUYING STOLEN PHONES!!!!!

souleman said:
Better idea... STOP BUYING STOLEN PHONES!!!!!
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Much better idea - stop posting foolish things! Look at ebay - there are lots of phones with bad esn! Bad ESN does NOT means 100% that phone was stolen!

Ramonsterator said:
Much better idea - stop posting foolish things! Look at ebay - there are lots of phones with bad esn! Bad ESN does NOT means 100% that phone was stolen!
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I know all about ebay.. The majority of the bad ESN phones are either stolen, or they are attached to accounts of people that never paid their bills. Trust me, there is a LOT of stolen merchandise sold on eBay.

souleman said:
I know all about ebay.. The majority of the bad ESN phones are either stolen, or they are attached to accounts of people that never paid their bills. Trust me, there is a LOT of stolen merchandise sold on eBay.
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Maybe. I always buy phones with bad ESNs - they're cheaper and does NOT have any difference when using them overseas

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2386703 Here is the link for solution of the same problem with different phone - HTC One for Sprint ! Maybe someone can port that solution to LS980 ??

Ramonsterator said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2386703 Here is the link for solution of the same problem with different phone - HTC One for Sprint ! Maybe someone can port that solution to LS980 ??
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Also hoping for a solution to this.

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Also hoping for a solution to this.
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Hello! My phones came and when I put into it my sim card - it says - No sim card! Every of three phones! Who can make them run SIM card??

Why get AT&T version when T-mobile variant can be sim unlocked for $5

Title says it all. I'm running a 851 T-mobile variant with TWRP and AOKP (new rom posted today) on it. Same bands and LTE works perfect. So the question stands why don't you AT&T owners sell yours and do the same? More development is going on since the bootloader is already unlocked and the more using one version the better for development as well in my eyes.
Maybe there is a specific reason but what am I missing?

I'm on Sprint and paid 99 for my phone. That's the only reason.

Mahapederdon said:
I'm on Sprint and paid 99 for my phone. That's the only reason.
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Makes sense not switching carriers, and sprint is CDMA not GSM so wouldn't work regardless. Threads more toward the AT&T owners and all the Bootloader Bounty chatter....

Got ya. Us Sprint guys are in the same boat. If they succeed in an unlock I'm definitely gonna donate if they don't charge anything for it.

Well AT&T is the better network hands down so there's that and if someone didn't think about bootloaders and development before purchasing chances are they don't need or want to root so there's 2 really good reasons why not to sell an AT&T G3 for the same exact phone on another network. That and also that its the same exact phone on another network.

I did it, mine 855P is the same as international 855 but with LTE from Mexico and USA so I sold it and bought a T-Mobile just for the same price =D and I still have my wireless charger that came with my 855P + an upgrade from 16gb/2gb RAM to 32gb/3gb RAM, a good deal.

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Well AT&T is the better network hands down so there's that and if someone didn't think about bootloaders and development before purchasing chances are they don't need or want to root so there's 2 really good reasons why not to sell an AT&T G3 for the same exact phone on another network. That and also that its the same exact phone on another network.
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Well that exactly what i did had the 850 and sold it on ebay and got the 851. 851's are cheaper actually. Still on AT&T network, agree its the better network hands down. If I chose to sell this it can go either ATT or T-mobile and works on LTE for both.
I guess i don't see your argument at all..

That's really not a terrible idea, lol. I friggen hate having this locked bootloader on my 850. Does the TMobile variant have the EXACT same bands as the AT&T one?
My other option is to just sell this stupid thing and buy a Nexus X when it comes out.

badtzo said:
I did it, mine 855P is the same as international 855 but with LTE from Mexico and USA so I sold it and bought a T-Mobile just for the same price =D and I still have my wireless charger that came with my 855P + an upgrade from 16gb/2gb RAM to 32gb/3gb RAM, a good deal.
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Exactly, and thanks for making remember it has the Qi wireless which is much more popular.

jeebuspwnz said:
That's really not a terrible idea, lol. I friggen hate having this locked bootloader on my 850. Does the TMobile variant have the EXACT same bands as the AT&T one?
My other option is to just sell this stupid thing and buy a Nexus X when it comes out.
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Do it, I made money actually. And you can literally download the IMEI unlock app on Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.servtified.unlock_lg_g3&hl=en) and pay 5 dollars to have it working on AT&T LTE in the matter of minutes. You do need to add your APN info for ATT but that''s it, works awesome!
Yes it has the exact same bands identical.

ej_424 said:
Well that exactly what i did had the 850 and sold it on ebay and got the 851. 851's are cheaper actually. Still on AT&T network, agree its the better network hands down. If I chose to sell this it can go either ATT or T-mobile and works on LTE for both.
I guess i don't see your argument at all..
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Not an argument, actually a reason to be satisfied with their purchase is that its on AT&T. I'm on T-Mobile but I don't defend their service, just went through them to lease the G3 and not pay outright for it. Going back to Straight Talk soon since I already SIM unlocked it. I would hope that a normal non obsessed person would consider all their options for US variants and not go through the headache of switching carriers for the exact same phone and sell the other. Not everyone cares about unlocking phones, some people are satisfied with simply having them, I'm not one of those people, but they do exist.

xlxcrossing said:
Not an argument, actually a reason to be satisfied with their purchase is that its on AT&T. I'm on T-Mobile but I don't defend their service, just went through them to lease the G3 and not pay outright for it. Going back to Straight Talk soon since I already SIM unlocked it. I would hope that a normal non obsessed person would consider all their options for US variants and not go through the headache of switching carriers for the exact same phone and sell the other. Not everyone cares about unlocking phones, some people are satisfied with simply having them, I'm not one of those people, but they do exist.
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Hear you loud and clear, but we are on XDA right? Having said that anyone on this forum is interested in having full control of their phone period.

ej_424 said:
Hear you loud and clear, but we are on XDA right? Having said that anyone on this forum is interested in having full control of their phone period.
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Why would you assume that? I've seen plenty of posts by users running stock unrooted devices. Just because its not unlocked doesn't mean people don't have a passion for development.

xlxcrossing said:
Why would you assume that? I've seen plenty of posts by users running stock unrooted devices. Just because its not unlocked doesn't mean people don't have a passion for development.
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Getting off topic, the point of the thread was for those who are on AT&T and want a unlocked bootloader. I dont think some people are aware of the logical move, and that both versions have the same bands.

Care to share a link for this AOKP rom you speak of?

qbanlinxx said:
Care to share a link for this AOKP rom you speak of?
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yes i dont see it anywhere
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Title says it all. I'm running a 851 T-mobile variant with TWRP and AOKP (new rom posted today) on it. Same bands and LTE works perfect. So the question stands why don't you AT&T owners sell yours and do the same? More development is going on since the bootloader is already unlocked and the more using one version the better for development as well in my eyes.
Maybe there is a specific reason but what am I missing?
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op, where is this aokp rom you speak of?

scottshebs said:
yes i dont see it anywhere
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op, where is this aokp rom you speak of?
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Sorry for the confusion, its not the original aokp. It's under android development section. Its not lgs rom though.

ej_424 said:
Sorry for the confusion, its not the original aokp. It's under android development section. Its not lgs rom though.
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the alpha aosp or a different one?

scottshebs said:
the alpha aosp or a different one?
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Lol no wonder... Yea my mistake AOSP.

ej_424 said:
Lol no wonder... Yea my mistake AOSP.
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had me all excited there lol. youre running it without sound or vibration?