I've read about updates needing the system applications installed to work. I have a few questions:
Do all apps have to be installed (including games)?
I've uninstalled some apps to download again to install them as user apps to move to my SD card. Do I need to re-install these back to system apps? Or is the fact they're installed good enough?
Will a factory reset put everything back the way it should be so I can just do that?
Finally, why do you have to have it the way it was to enable updates?
Thanks in advance. I've read quite a few posts about having to have system apps installed, but not why or which ones.
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I also need to know these things...
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Yeah, I'm eagerly awaiting ICS. I guess if I must ask a question, it would be, why do you have to have the original system apps to update properly?
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Should I post this in the general bit? Or has it been answered many times and people are sick of answering? I haven't found any answers, despite looking for days.
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I want to customise my phone as much as I can (dare), but after reading about the update thing I'm holding off in case I forget exactly what I did to put back to update-able-ness.
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Why don't you just install the latest firmware after backing everything up (just in case something goes wrong) that way all the system apps are fine and it should be fine with an update service.. but why wouldn't you all just wait for an official rom to be leaked and flash it your phones with flashtool?
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i've tried and tried to get some help running this update that i'm being nagged about, to no avail.
can someone please tell me how to just STOP the nag that i have to postpone once a day?
thanks very much,
gn
I've seen people mention using titanium backup to freeze the device manager or updater app. Something to that effect.
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thanks but i don't have a clue what that means.
i installed Kies on my pc to try and find the download and "push" it through with Odin, but Kies tells me my firmware is good.
i have NO idea where to dl the newest OTA from T-Mobile and then i'd have NO idea how to push it with Odin.
help, someone????
Titanium backup is an app from the market. With it you can uninstall system apps, or simply "freeze" them, meaning they are still there but no longer allowed to run.
"Device management" is the system app that's notifying you of the available ota update.
So, to answer your original question, download titanium backup and use it to freeze device management in order to get rid of the ota notification.
All this assumes of course that you are rooted and running a custom ROM. If you aren't on a custom ROM, then I wouldn't understand your wanting to avoid the update, as it appears it doesn't affect your ability to root, and may not even unroot your device.
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Will anything else be affected if you freeze that app?
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Will anything else be affected if you freeze that app?
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I've had mine frozen for a couple days to avoid getting that notification, and haven't experienced any fc's or other problems.
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Will anything else be affected if you freeze that app?
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I deleted mine and have no issues.
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does the OTA unroot the device? i tried to let it run but it just booted into cwm and did nothing. im freezing it for now, i have great reception, don't really need wi-fi calling
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Titanium backup is an app from the market. With it you can uninstall system apps, or simply "freeze" them, meaning they are still there but no longer allowed to run.
"Device management" is the system app that's notifying you of the available ota update.
So, to answer your original question, download titanium backup and use it to freeze device management in order to get rid of the ota notification.
All this assumes of course that you are rooted and running a custom ROM. If you aren't on a custom ROM, then I wouldn't understand your wanting to avoid the update, as it appears it doesn't affect your ability to root, and may not even unroot your device.
i wasn't trying to avoid it, i was originally trying to install it, but Clockwork wouldn't let me; a couple people in here tried to offer 'halfway' help, but stopped answering my questions, so i mainly just wanted to get rid of the nag, since the mod i flashed got me to 2.3.6 anyway.
turns out that Perfect Backup let me clear the Device Mgmt data, and that got rid of the nag. so i didn't have to pay for Titanium Backup (can't freeze stuff unless you pay for it).
so the resolution is that once i'd flashed to 2.3.6 the OTA was just in some kind of cache, i guess, and all i had to do was clear it.
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How to proceed with OTA update
Hello bnielsen40, everyone,
I would like to proceed with the OTA update on my Rooted GS2 but when it reboots to CWM recovery and I don't know how to continue from here to the OTA update so I just press restart and it loads back to where I was before, notifications start all over again,, Can any one help on how to load the update from CWM recovery boot??
Thanks,
Gregorio
nag persists
I upgraded my phone through kies and the nag persists. anybody in the same boat?
i had odin with cwm recovery and just upgraded through kies.
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Hello bnielsen40, everyone,
I would like to proceed with the OTA update on my Rooted GS2 but when it reboots to CWM recovery and I don't know how to continue from here to the OTA update so I just press restart and it loads back to where I was before, notifications start all over again,, Can any one help on how to load the update from CWM recovery boot??
Thanks,
Gregorio
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i just went through the exact same problem. go get Deodexed KL1 (i think it's a stock ROM) and it'll do what the new update is going to do, flash you to 2.3.6.
flash the modem, too, with Odin (KL1 modem) and then find your Device Management 10.* and Clear the Data using Perfect Backup (free).
i was unable to get rid of that nag/notification until i did that.
there may be other ways of Clearing the Data for Device Mgmt - maybe in App Manager. In any case, when i cleared the data the nag was gone.
gcontr1 said:
Hello bnielsen40, everyone,
I would like to proceed with the OTA update on my Rooted GS2 but when it reboots to CWM recovery and I don't know how to continue from here to the OTA update so I just press restart and it loads back to where I was before, notifications start all over again,, Can any one help on how to load the update from CWM recovery boot??
Thanks,
Gregorio
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Flash Mr X's deodexed stock rom. the rom your device downloaded is designed to work with your phones stock recovery and not with clockwork mod. X's rom works with CWM.
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Thanks guys. I should have waited for the hint. I ended up resetting the rom and it fixed the nag. So clearing the cache would probably fix it too and save me a lot of reloading of apps and settings.
[Q] Stop OTA for Samsung GS 2 on T-Mobile
Hello!
My wife has a rooted GS 2 with the stock ROM from TMO. I am concerned that the new OTA (T989VUVKL1)might break her root functionality, cause repeated update notification, or cause her phone to no longer work. Does anyone know the app or file I need to freeze or delete to stop the OTA from happening? At this point she is also getting the notification to update (eek!) At some point I will want to upgrade the ROM to the newest one assuming I can keep root access. Thank you for all your help and support!
Freeze device manager.
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Here's how I fixed it. Use a root explorer. Navigate to system/app and delete / backup both wssysync files. Reboot . Problem solved
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new to the rooting game i rooted using super one click and deleated some of the pre installed crap. the question is when ice cream sarnie comes out will it be ok to update any help would be great cheers
Did you back up first... the update will fail if you've deleted system apps
Nothing a full ftf flash with flash won't solve though
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no never backed up wish i did now ill read up on what you said and try that cheers
has any one got a uk gernetic stock link
Though the question in this thread itself has been asked over a million times I guess, may I also ask our masters one question:
So I used Titanium Backup Pro to Integrate Update into ROM of some system apps. Will I have to restore all the original apps in their original version to have a successful OTA update?
PS, I backed up the entire system/apps folder, so no problem with that. Also, I don't have problems with setting the permissions back with Root Explorer.
Thanks in advance!
Let's say for example, that in the future I'll upgrade to the Android 4.0. As far as I know all my info and apps will be lost (I could backup them but I am too lazy). But, will the apps I downloaded remain in my Google account so I can see on the Google Play what apps should I download again?
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Let's say for example, that in the future I'll upgrade to the Android 4.0. As far as I know all my info and apps will be lost (I could backup them but I am too lazy). But, will the apps I downloaded remain in my Google account so I can see on the Google Play what apps should I download again?
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Only if you paid for them does it really keep track (if you go from your computer you can access the log of apps downloaded and add 'em that way. Or titanium backup pro has one click batch backup/restore...
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Yep install the latest TTBackup Pro and backup the apps along with their data and cache
Wait wait wait. upgrading my phone to official Android 4 will take my apps away?
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Wait wait wait. upgrading my phone to official Android 4 will take my apps away?
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Sorry, thought you were talking about cm9.
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Let's say for example, that in the future I'll upgrade to the Android 4.0. As far as I know all my info and apps will be lost (I could backup them but I am too lazy). But, will the apps I downloaded remain in my Google account so I can see on the Google Play what apps should I download again?
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Data on your internal memory not on your SD card will be wipe out if you upgrade your stock ROM. I just flashed a custom ROM yesterday and my apps installed on my SD card are still there, but of course I also performed a nandroid backup first and titanium backup as well. All the apps I got from Play Store (aka android market) are still showing when you click "My Android Apps" link.
Thanks for the info guys.
Earlier this week my Sensation 4g died. I bought a Note 2. Little did I know that there were issues with it that I and others have with it, ie: no easy immediate way to do app to sd for instance. Another thing I wanted was to be able to add or take away data from installed apps by connecting the phone to a computer via usb and accessing the files that way, which again doesn't happen without some work.
Since then I have rooted the phone (according to the download mode screen, which says: current binary and system status is custom.
I have left everything stock except for the rooting part and installed Superuser and SuperSU and then tried to run Titanium Backup (free) when it said 'could not access root using \something\something\su command".
I have tried several other apps and methods of trying to do what I want (from the first paragraph) but none have succeeded either due lack of documentation (and I didn't know how to do a certain step or fix something) or it just didn't work.
So where am I at now? I have factory reset my phone and am now honestly not sure where to go or what to do from here. I've Googled and Googled but nothing quite seems to be able to fix what I need and if it does then it has the lack of documentation and can't help me.
Any thoughts or guides or something that anyone could post/link to? Thanks.
I believe this lets you save to SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935
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I believe this lets you save to SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935
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If I'm not mistaken but kernels don't deal with being able to save apps to sd. I could be wrong since I don't dabble in android dev. Thanks though.
We need background... 1st of all...
What way did you use to root (Cf_auto_root, Stock-root injected, etc)?
Does your phone still have exynos_exploit or did your phone come with that "OTA Update" pre installed?
What SD card are you using?
What rom/kernal are you trying to run?
Most of the time, in this particular forum, its seems best to just ask what your trying to accomplish within the various rom/kernal thread...
Like lets say im on Stick injected rom/kernal without extsd2internalsd (apps2sd) setup and lets say I want to go to Jedi Master 9.... I would then go to Jedi Master 9 thread and ask for help on how to effectively apply that rom with ExtSd2internalsd support from my current setup, and wait for the OP or seniors to reply... also while "patiently waiting" I would read/search through the hundreds of pages looking for answers/insights to my particular process... if needed might go to my own root process thread and ask for advice on how to get to jedi master 9
Id be more than willing to help you here but need some background on your phones current status and end rom/kernal to provide an answer (to be sure I dont lead you awry
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We need background... 1st of all...
What way did you use to root (Cf_auto_root, Stock-root injected, etc)?
Does your phone still have exynos_exploit or did your phone come with that "OTA Update" pre installed?
What SD card are you using?
What rom/kernal are you trying to run?
Most of the time, in this particular forum, its seems best to just ask what your trying to accomplish within the various rom/kernal thread...
Like lets say im on Stick injected rom/kernal without extsd2internalsd (apps2sd) setup and lets say I want to go to Jedi Master 9.... I would then go to Jedi Master 9 thread and ask for help on how to effectively apply that rom with ExtSd2internalsd support from my current setup, and wait for the OP or seniors to reply... also while "patiently waiting" I would read/search through the hundreds of pages looking for answers/insights to my particular process... if needed might go to my own root process thread and ask for advice on how to get to jedi master 9
Id be more than willing to help you here but need some background on your phones current status and end rom/kernal to provide an answer (to be sure I dont lead you awry
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Thanks. I did answer that I am running everything stock at the moment, just rooted, no kernel or rom. I have an 8gb class 4 microsd card. My root method was cf auto root. I also stated what I was hoping to achieve also (in my first paragraph). Hopefully this helps.
Oh, if possible I'd like the easiest way to remove or disable system apps like chat on or some of the tmobile stuff. I tried a couple different methods with that too but couldn't quite get it all to work.
I tried the qtadb app but couldn't get my device to be seen by the program on the computer and i tried that app because I had no idea where to start with regular adb, its been a long time since i've done any of this stuff.
To remove or disable system apps I use root uninstaller, sometimes it won't delete system apps on the first try just exit the app go back and do it again second attemt will do, for your data problem I'll try root browser or root Explorer
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To remove or disable system apps I use root uninstaller, sometimes it won't delete system apps on the first try just exit the app go back and do it again second attemt will do, for your data problem I'll try root browser or root Explorer
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Hmm ok thanks. I'll try those out when I get a chance. Thanks.
I always remove bloatware through Titanium Backup or with a debloated rom
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I always remove bloatware through Titanium Backup or with a debloated rom
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Doesn't that just lead back to my first problem of not being able to get Titanium Backup to run on my phone?
Are you sure your rooted (root checker)? I honestly havent heard of anyone else being unable to install rooted apps (unless they werent rooted (those people generally rerooted to solve that issue)
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Are you sure your rooted (root checker)? I honestly havent heard of anyone else being unable to install rooted apps (unless they werent rooted (those people generally rerooted to solve that issue)
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Well it turns out you can download and install apps requiring root but they just wont run correctly, if at all. I know because after my factory reset, i downloaded and ran 2 root checker apps, both of which said I no longer have root or something. So now I'm just going through the rooting process again.
Edit: I'm not rooted again, as checked by 2 root confirmation apps. Now to try to get TB running and remove bloatware.
Edit 2: Great success! I got TB to work, bought PRO and have just frozen everything i dont need or dont use.
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Well it turns out you can download and install apps requiring root but they just wont run correctly, if at all. I know because after my factory reset, i downloaded and ran 2 root checker apps, both of which said I no longer have root or something. So now I'm just going through the rooting process again.
Edit: I'm not rooted again, as checked by 2 root confirmation apps. Now to try to get TB running and remove bloatware.
Edit 2: Great success! I got TB to work, bought PRO and have just frozen everything i dont need or dont use.
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Much easier to use odin from mr robinson. Its already been prerooted
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I remember seeing a list of links with the apps a long time ago but I don't seem to find it anymore.
Anyway, I've got some problems with my phone and I want to send it to repair because I'm still under warranty. The pre-installed games could not be removed without rooting and due to the fact that they're no longer on the phone (deleted them with titanium backup) it might seem a bit suscpicious because I want to get rid of any sign that I rooted it. I tried factory reseting but it doesn't restore the system apps. Also, I've never unlocked the bootloader and I'm not going to, so I can't install the stock ROM.
TL;DR I'm looking for a list with links for downloading the factory xperia play factory apps.
Just use PC Companion to reinstall firmware
Or use flashtool to flash stock firmware
Both solutions will reset phone to original state ( without root and with all apps installed).
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Just use PC Companion to reinstall firmware
Or use flashtool to flash stock firmware
Both solutions will reset phone to original state ( without root and with all apps installed).
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Thank you! I totally forgot about PC companion.