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Quick Root/Unroot Question

My fiance has to send in her phone for replacement. Since the Incredible doesn't have the Privacy/backup app data option, I want to back up her apps so as not to lose data or have to manually do it in the market. From reading, Titanium Backup is the best app for the job and it requires root.
I searched for my answer but found not exactly what I was looking for...
I know I can run unrevoked3 to root the device, install TB then back up my apps...
From here I want to unroot the phone. I read I can install the official 2.1 ROM and it'll erase what unrevoked3 did.. Am I correct in assuming that?
Or could I just factory reset the phone (with the 2.2 OTA) instead of having to install that 2.1 ROM? And will doing this get rid of the custom recovery? Or does a whole ROM need to be flashed to replace the recovery?
Then on the new device, i have to root it, install TB again, install the backups... If it comes preloaded with 2.2, how do i lose root and still hold onto all the apps I just backed up?

Actually I don't care about the new device and getting rid of root...
I just want to make sure the phone I send back no longer has the custom recovery.
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To skip the rooting and unrooting, try AppBrain. You can build a list and sync your device with your apps. On the new phone, do the same and it will automatically redownload and install your missing apps.
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Will it download them through the market? I only ask so the downloads list in the market shows apps as installed and will notify of updates. And does it back up app data as well?
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And modifying my search I found the answer... Downgrading will erase custom recovery...
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Phaded said:
Will it download them through the market? I only ask so the downloads list in the market shows apps as installed and will notify of updates. And does it back up app data as well?
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Yes, it downloads through the market, and does updates, too. No it doesn't save app data. I try to stay away from that due to possible data corruption.
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Another question... So phone is rooted, s-off, cw recovery.
Outside of flashing the leak, how would one prepare the phone for the ota without losing apps and data? I've read flashing the stock recovery would do it, but I can't find the 2.2 one or I'm looking in the wrong place. Any help appreciated.
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[Q] Question about tmobile software update

I have instslled Beastmod rom in my samsumg galasy s2. Yesteday I receive on my phone a new software system update from tmobile to install. My question is if I install this software update it would affect the Beastmod rom?

No flashing an official update on a custom rom is only asking for a bootloop

You can read this thread here but the basics are;
1) If you've only rooted your phone, (no custom ROM or kernel), you can let the update be applied and it should update correctly. Some folks have reported that it unrooted their phone in the process while others say it didn't.
2) If you've rooted your phone and installed a custom ROM, (like you say), then the update won't work, and will probably just boot you to the CWM screen. Your phone won't be affected but you'll still get the update notifications.
3) If you want to stop the update notifications, one method is to delete the data for the Device management app, and then freeze the app using something like Titanium Backup, NoBloat or SystemCleanup.
4) Or you can navigate to /system/app and delete or rename, wssyncmldm.apk and wssyncmlnps.apk
Good Luck..

Thank you very much jasnn and zelendel!!!

you can use perfect backup. look into system apps. click on device management -> details. -> clear cache. it clears it up for a few days. then you can repeat until there's an update on the ROM you have. that's what i've been doing and im using the beatmod v4.2 really good rom.

jasnn said:
You can read this thread here but the basics are;
1) If you've only rooted your phone, (no custom ROM or kernel), you can let the update be applied and it should update correctly. Some folks have reported that it unrooted their phone in the process while others say it didn't.
2) If you've rooted your phone and installed a custom ROM, (like you say), then the update won't work, and will probably just boot you to the CWM screen. Your phone won't be affected but you'll still get the update notifications.
3) If you want to stop the update notifications, one method is to delete the data for the Device management app, and then freeze the app using something like Titanium Backup, NoBloat or SystemCleanup.
4) Or you can navigate to /system/app and delete or rename, wssyncmldm.apk and wssyncmlnps.apk
Good Luck..
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What is the difference between wssyncmldm.apk and wssyncmlnps.apk? I know that wssybcmldm.apk is the device management app.
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wssyncmldm.apk is the Device Manager UI and wssyncmlnps.apk is the actual updater.

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wssyncmldm.apk is the Device Manager UI and wssyncmlnps.apk is the actual updater.
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Ahh OK. So freezing the UI only wouldn't prevent it from downloading updates. . . Just informing you of them.
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"S-On?"

I rooted my Note2 and have root access, but I think I'm missing something... I reset my phone and the system apps reset themselves. On my Glacier you had to turn security off to keep it from happening, and I was wondering what needs to be done to prevent it on this device.
All I did was root, install cwm, then install Su. Does it have to do with deodexing? I'm unfimiliar with what it means and would appreciate some guidance in the right direction.
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HTC devices. Do a little more reading and you'll find the difference, I find Sammy devices are a lot easier to play with compared to HTC, having owned several of both.
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There is no such thing as S-on and S-off on Samsung devices as they already ship with an unlocked bootloader. If you are doing a factory reset on any phone, all of the system apps should be wiped as well, so I don't really understand your question.

odrecords said:
I rooted my Note2 and have root access, but I think I'm missing something... I reset my phone and the system apps reset themselves. On my Glacier you had to turn security off to keep it from happening, and I was wondering what needs to be done to prevent it on this device.
All I did was root, install cwm, then install Su. Does it have to do with deodexing? I'm unfimiliar with what it means and would appreciate some guidance in the right direction.
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Don't worry, I understand what you're talking about.
Started happening with the Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile as well since the most recent JB update
You "freeze" an app in Titanium Backup, and it freezes just fine, but after the very next reboot that app is back in action and active in the background. Very frustrating, I know.
The two apps I noticed this with were T-Mobile's My Account app and Zynga games (really??)
Here's the solution - uninstall the offending apps. That'll teach em!

Uninstalling works just fine, but for example when I install the older version of YouTube (which I prefer over the new) and restart my phone, the version it ships with is reinstalled.
Also, when I flash a zip that installs the apk into the system app folder, it gets wiped after a reboot.
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I know that there were two files you had to remove to prevent reboots from reflashing stock recovery, I would imagine this is the same thing - problem is, I don't know what files to remove (I don't have the Note 2 yet so I can't go poking around to look for them)
But I am sure you can find/remove them.
This is why I stick with CM10, I can't stand the control T-Mobile and Samsung try to maintain on our devices

I can't find the info! BTW, the search function on the mobile app is not very good. Haha
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odrecords said:
I rooted my Note2 and have root access, but I think I'm missing something... I reset my phone and the system apps reset themselves. On my Glacier you had to turn security off to keep it from happening, and I was wondering what needs to be done to prevent it on this device.
All I did was root, install cwm, then install Su. Does it have to do with deodexing? I'm unfimiliar with what it means and would appreciate some guidance in the right direction.
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there is no s-on or s-off for samsung, thats just a htc thing. you root, install cwm w/ Su and you're done.

[Q] Need help since I'm new to Sammy

Earlier this week my Sensation 4g died. I bought a Note 2. Little did I know that there were issues with it that I and others have with it, ie: no easy immediate way to do app to sd for instance. Another thing I wanted was to be able to add or take away data from installed apps by connecting the phone to a computer via usb and accessing the files that way, which again doesn't happen without some work.
Since then I have rooted the phone (according to the download mode screen, which says: current binary and system status is custom.
I have left everything stock except for the rooting part and installed Superuser and SuperSU and then tried to run Titanium Backup (free) when it said 'could not access root using \something\something\su command".
I have tried several other apps and methods of trying to do what I want (from the first paragraph) but none have succeeded either due lack of documentation (and I didn't know how to do a certain step or fix something) or it just didn't work.
So where am I at now? I have factory reset my phone and am now honestly not sure where to go or what to do from here. I've Googled and Googled but nothing quite seems to be able to fix what I need and if it does then it has the lack of documentation and can't help me.
Any thoughts or guides or something that anyone could post/link to? Thanks.

I believe this lets you save to SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935
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funziebear said:
I believe this lets you save to SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935
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If I'm not mistaken but kernels don't deal with being able to save apps to sd. I could be wrong since I don't dabble in android dev. Thanks though.

We need background... 1st of all...
What way did you use to root (Cf_auto_root, Stock-root injected, etc)?
Does your phone still have exynos_exploit or did your phone come with that "OTA Update" pre installed?
What SD card are you using?
What rom/kernal are you trying to run?
Most of the time, in this particular forum, its seems best to just ask what your trying to accomplish within the various rom/kernal thread...
Like lets say im on Stick injected rom/kernal without extsd2internalsd (apps2sd) setup and lets say I want to go to Jedi Master 9.... I would then go to Jedi Master 9 thread and ask for help on how to effectively apply that rom with ExtSd2internalsd support from my current setup, and wait for the OP or seniors to reply... also while "patiently waiting" I would read/search through the hundreds of pages looking for answers/insights to my particular process... if needed might go to my own root process thread and ask for advice on how to get to jedi master 9
Id be more than willing to help you here but need some background on your phones current status and end rom/kernal to provide an answer (to be sure I dont lead you awry
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PhxDroid86 said:
We need background... 1st of all...
What way did you use to root (Cf_auto_root, Stock-root injected, etc)?
Does your phone still have exynos_exploit or did your phone come with that "OTA Update" pre installed?
What SD card are you using?
What rom/kernal are you trying to run?
Most of the time, in this particular forum, its seems best to just ask what your trying to accomplish within the various rom/kernal thread...
Like lets say im on Stick injected rom/kernal without extsd2internalsd (apps2sd) setup and lets say I want to go to Jedi Master 9.... I would then go to Jedi Master 9 thread and ask for help on how to effectively apply that rom with ExtSd2internalsd support from my current setup, and wait for the OP or seniors to reply... also while "patiently waiting" I would read/search through the hundreds of pages looking for answers/insights to my particular process... if needed might go to my own root process thread and ask for advice on how to get to jedi master 9
Id be more than willing to help you here but need some background on your phones current status and end rom/kernal to provide an answer (to be sure I dont lead you awry
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Thanks. I did answer that I am running everything stock at the moment, just rooted, no kernel or rom. I have an 8gb class 4 microsd card. My root method was cf auto root. I also stated what I was hoping to achieve also (in my first paragraph). Hopefully this helps.

Oh, if possible I'd like the easiest way to remove or disable system apps like chat on or some of the tmobile stuff. I tried a couple different methods with that too but couldn't quite get it all to work.
I tried the qtadb app but couldn't get my device to be seen by the program on the computer and i tried that app because I had no idea where to start with regular adb, its been a long time since i've done any of this stuff.

To remove or disable system apps I use root uninstaller, sometimes it won't delete system apps on the first try just exit the app go back and do it again second attemt will do, for your data problem I'll try root browser or root Explorer

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To remove or disable system apps I use root uninstaller, sometimes it won't delete system apps on the first try just exit the app go back and do it again second attemt will do, for your data problem I'll try root browser or root Explorer
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Hmm ok thanks. I'll try those out when I get a chance. Thanks.

I always remove bloatware through Titanium Backup or with a debloated rom
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PhxDroid86 said:
I always remove bloatware through Titanium Backup or with a debloated rom
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Doesn't that just lead back to my first problem of not being able to get Titanium Backup to run on my phone?

Are you sure your rooted (root checker)? I honestly havent heard of anyone else being unable to install rooted apps (unless they werent rooted (those people generally rerooted to solve that issue)
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PhxDroid86 said:
Are you sure your rooted (root checker)? I honestly havent heard of anyone else being unable to install rooted apps (unless they werent rooted (those people generally rerooted to solve that issue)
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Well it turns out you can download and install apps requiring root but they just wont run correctly, if at all. I know because after my factory reset, i downloaded and ran 2 root checker apps, both of which said I no longer have root or something. So now I'm just going through the rooting process again.
Edit: I'm not rooted again, as checked by 2 root confirmation apps. Now to try to get TB running and remove bloatware.
Edit 2: Great success! I got TB to work, bought PRO and have just frozen everything i dont need or dont use.

CTR01 said:
Well it turns out you can download and install apps requiring root but they just wont run correctly, if at all. I know because after my factory reset, i downloaded and ran 2 root checker apps, both of which said I no longer have root or something. So now I'm just going through the rooting process again.
Edit: I'm not rooted again, as checked by 2 root confirmation apps. Now to try to get TB running and remove bloatware.
Edit 2: Great success! I got TB to work, bought PRO and have just frozen everything i dont need or dont use.
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Much easier to use odin from mr robinson. Its already been prerooted
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Software Update for Rooted Stock

My phone has rooted stock, MA7. It's been through one update without a problem. I just had to restore root. On the second OTA update, I tried Root Keeper. I kept root, but the update will not apply. It starts the update and a red exclamation mark appears on the droid and it reboots. No update applies.
Now, I am reminded over and over to take an OTA, 28.5MB in size. It fails every time I try.
How can I apply the latest update to my rooted stock? If not possible, is there a way to turn off the reminder?

When you applied root did you also install a different recovery? That would cause a fail. Bte the update isnt all that. Either way to remove notification go into titanium backup. Freeze system update. Exit. Then reboot to recovery. Wipe cache and dalvik and reboot. Done and done
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I am using standard recovery. No custom recovery loaded.
Thanks for the info on freezing. I can freeze for now but I think I will have a problem at next update.
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Actually freezing stops the ota notification indefinitely. Be aware in order to update prl and profile you will have to temporarily unfreeze that app.
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Freezing software update didn't fix it. It keeps coming back. I tried swiping notification away and then freeze and tried choosing Install Later and freezing. Neither works.
When I get app info on the notification, it brings me to Google services framework. Can't freeze that.
Any way to flash the update via recovery or some other way to apply?
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Did you wipe cache like I said to after freezing the app?
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Whoops. Missed that step. I went ahead and cleared data. We'll keep on eye on it. Thanks again!

All you have to do is delete /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip and clear caches and reboot. You will never get it again.

Wrong thread.

kamiller42 said:
My phone has rooted stock, MA7. It's been through one update without a problem. I just had to restore root. On the second OTA update, I tried Root Keeper. I kept root, but the update will not apply. It starts the update and a red exclamation mark appears on the droid and it reboots. No update applies.
Now, I am reminded over and over to take an OTA, 28.5MB in size. It fails every time I try.
How can I apply the latest update to my rooted stock? If not possible, is there a way to turn off the reminder?
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I had a same problem. I searched threads and found latest rooted firmware. I used odin and phone connected to pc. My memory is not greatest today but I think I was called Mr Robinson 66 or something very similar. Ota root keeper doesnt work with latest update.
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An update on this. Looks like I had to rename the otacerts file and reboot to get it to go away. Freezing system update and clearing data might have been a part of it too.