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Hi everyone,
I got a question. Is it a must to wipe before flashing a rom? For example, I'm on a rom and i want to flash another rom. Why is it a must to wipe it? What happens if I don't wipe it and flash a new rom?
Kind regards,
Semih
Its not a must but its highly recommended if you don't sometimes you'll get bootloops, sometimes you'll get random crashes and apps not working or you could get very lucky and everything might work fine. You should at least wipe the /cache partition, you won't lose any data.
semihsikier said:
Hi everyone,
I got a question. Is it a must to wipe before flashing a rom? For example, I'm on a rom and i want to flash another rom. Why is it a must to wipe it? What happens if I don't wipe it and flash a new rom?
Kind regards,
Semih
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if you are on the same rom and the dev updates then most of the times no it is no need to update. if you are trying different roms though then yeah best to do is wipe. if you go into ARHD thread in the first page there is a script called superwipe. download that and flash it before you flash a new rom and that will do all the wipes for you. or just do it the old fashion way in recovery and reason why to wipe sometimes so you do not have old system data from previous roms
NoobTerminator said:
if you are on the same rom and the dev updates then most of the times no it is no need to update. if you are trying different roms though then yeah best to do is wipe. if you go into ARHD thread in the first page there is a script called superwipe. download that and flash it before you flash a new rom and that will do all the wipes for you. or just do it the old fashion way in recovery and reason why to wipe sometimes so you do not have old system data from previous roms
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Also make sure 100% you have your Rom on your sd as you can't mount sd in recovery and after running there is no system.
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treebill said:
Also make sure 100% you have your Rom on your sd as you can't mount sd in recovery and after running there is no system.
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And also a backup..that is the most important thing...went through a lot of threads that i read and most of the people on some threads ask on how to restore using RUU cause they do not have a backup of their stock rom..So please always make a backup my friend
It's not. They call that a "dirty flash". I've never done it but I've heard that it's not advised.
I want to flash a new rom, but i don't want to use titanium backup to restore my apps, thats to much time. And if I wipe it, my settings will lost. So, i don't want to do it. But it seems that I have to do it, otherwise i'll get some errors and bootloops etc. I thank you all for your fast reply. I'll wipe my phone
A nandroid backup. If I do it while on the old rom, can I restore it on the new rom? not an updated rom, just another rom of another developer..
semihsikier said:
I want to flash a new rom, but i don't want to use titanium backup to restore my apps, thats to much time. And if I wipe it, my settings will lost. So, i don't want to do it. But it seems that I have to do it, otherwise i'll get some errors and bootloops etc. I thank you all for your fast reply. I'll wipe my phone
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contacts you can save them if you have a google account my friend. regarding backing up apps with Titanium backup if you have the Pro version it is all a matter on a few clicks. so my advise would be get it if you do not have the Pro version
semihsikier said:
A nandroid backup. If I do it while on the old rom, can I restore it on the new rom? not an updated rom, just another rom of another developer..
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Yeah thats fine, I usually flash the old rom first then restore the backup when coming from cm9 or miui to stock to avoid bootloops etc.
NoobTerminator said:
contacts you can save them if you have a google account my friend. regarding backing up apps with Titanium backup if you have the Pro version it is all a matter on a few clicks. so my advise would be get it if you do not have the Pro version
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Yes, I have the pro version, thats not a problem. Ok, I'm going to wipe it for the safety. Thanks a lot
semihsikier said:
Yes, I have the pro version, thats not a problem. Ok, I'm going to wipe it for the safety. Thanks a lot
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no problem mate
Hi guys! So I mess with my phone all the time, switching kernels etc. I am running the ARHD 7.1.0 ROM and I did a Nandroid backup in CWM just in case anything bad happens to it.
I came from a Galaxy S2 though and was thinking of some questions that came into my mind. It would be nice for u to tell me that:
1. Does the backup flashes the "boot.img" automatically? or u have to "fastboot flash boot boot.img"??
2. Does it backs up the kernel?
3. Does it backs up my personal data like the SMS, Contacts and settings etc?
4. What will happen if I restore my stock nandroid backup over this?
5. Can I restore some other person's HTC One X's Stock/Custom ROM backup? Will it work?
THANKS!! ^_^
what version of RUU u have there ? is it an Asia_India? 1.29.720.11?
WasifSal said:
Hi guys! So I mess with my phone all the time, switching kernels etc. I am running the ARHD 7.1.0 ROM and I did a Nandroid backup in CWM just in case anything bad happens to it.
I came from a Galaxy S2 though and was thinking of some questions that came into my mind. It would be nice for u to tell me that:
1. Does the backup flashes the "boot.img" automatically? or u have to "fastboot flash boot boot.img"??
2. Does it backs up the kernel?
3. Does it backs up my personal data like the SMS, Contacts and settings etc?
4. What will happen if I restore my stock nandroid backup over this?
5. Can I restore some other person's HTC One X's Stock/Custom ROM backup? Will it work?
THANKS!! ^_^
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1. Yes, it flashes the boot.img automatically no need to use adb.
2. Yes, it backs up the kernel you we're on when you made the backup.
3. Yes, the backup will restore things to the exact state your phone was in when you made the backup. But if your really paranoid use something like titanium backup first to back up SMS etc.
4. If you restore your stock backup it will return your phone to complete stock but you will keep root access.
5. Yes technically you could restore another person's backup but I'd be careful doing that as it may cause some problems with corruption.
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shimp208 said:
1. Yes, it flashes the boot.img automatically no need to use adb.
2. Yes, it backs up the kernel you we're on when you made the backup.
3. Yes, the backup will restore things to the exact state your phone was in when you made the backup. But if your really paranoid use something like titanium backup first to back up SMS etc.
4. If you restore your stock backup it will return your phone to complete stock but you will keep root access.
5. Yes technically you could restore another person's backup but I'd be careful doing that as it may cause some problems with corruption.
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Thanks bro! U rawk! \m/
GUARDIANBD said:
what version of RUU u have there ? is it an Asia_India? 1.29.720.11?
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WasifSal said:
Thanks bro! U rawk! \m/
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Well there is some confusion.
A backup doesn't flash anything.
The restore won't flash the boot.img.
Hello.
First sorry for my English so poor, it happens that my favorite language is not really speak Spanish. Anyway, that's beside the point.
I've always used Android Revolution HD, which is an amazing rom, but would like to try the CoreDroid v4.4 seeing ONE X has a very attractive graphical interface, and I wonder if I can just flash this rom without losing my applications, my games (and saved games) because when I change from one version of Android Revolution to a newer, I have no change in what I have on the phone.
Can I normally install without thorough cleaning (super wipe)?
Thanks in advance. Greetings from Dominican Republic excellent forum!!
It's highly recommended to do a full wipe before installing a new ROM - just make sure to backup everything you need before you do so. You can try installing it without a full wipe, but you'll have a greater chance of running into complications that way. All user files in your sdcard will not be touched during a super wipe.
tomascus said:
It's highly recommended to do a full wipe before installing a new ROM - just make sure to backup everything you need before you do so. You can try installing it without a full wipe, but you'll have a greater chance of running into complications that way. All user files in your sdcard will not be touched during a super wipe.
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Thanks for responding. What application do you recommend to do the backup? I have Titanium Backup, that's okay?
Yeah, use that to backup your user applications and use 'Go Backup Pro' to backup contacts, call logs etc.
Make sure to make a nanodroid backup just in case something goes wrong or you want to go back to ARHD.
tomascus said:
Yeah, use that to backup your user applications and use 'Go Backup Pro' to backup contacts, call logs etc.
Make sure to make a nanodroid backup just in case something goes wrong or you want to go back to ARHD.
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Sorry if I bother you, but I do not know how to do that the backup nanodroid, hehe
[email protected] said:
Sorry if I bother you, but I do not know how to do that the backup nanodroid, hehe
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From the recovery, i.e., clockworkmod.
I tried to make a backup nanodroid having free 2gb sd card in my and in the process he told me he did not have enough space, I suppose it's very heavy. In which case you would use a backup nanodroid? And which option should I choose in Titanium Backup? Backup all user app + system data?
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I tried to make a backup nanodroid having free 2gb sd card in my and in the process he told me he did not have enough space, I suppose it's very heavy. In which case you would use a backup nanodroid? And which option should I choose in Titanium Backup? Backup all user app + system data?
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A nandroid backup is a full system backup: besides the andriod system itself it includes all your setting and all your apps (so: ARDH, setting and apps).
With a nandroid backup its very easy to go back to what you had; just restore the nandroid backup from within the recovery and your phone is back to exactly the way it was.
The only downside of a nandroid backup is the size, but then again, it needs to be because it includes everything!
I would recommend making some extra space on your phone and making the nandroid backup. This way, if Coredroid doesn't work for you, its very easy to go back to your ARHD.
Please keep in mind that since there is no s-off it is always neccesary to flash the right boot.img before going to another ROM or before going back!
Since you'll be using Titanium Backup switching ROMs it doesn't make sense to backup system data; big change there are some differences between system data (settings and stuff) for different ROMs. I would just backup all user apps and try to restore them in Coredroid.
TheJoker79 said:
A nandroid backup is a full system backup: besides the andriod system itself it includes all your setting and all your apps (so: ARDH, setting and apps).
With a nandroid backup its very easy to go back to what you had; just restore the nandroid backup from within the recovery and your phone is back to exactly the way it was.
The only downside of a nandroid backup is the size, but then again, it needs to be because it includes everything!
I would recommend making some extra space on your phone and making the nandroid backup. This way, if Coredroid doesn't work for you, its very easy to go back to your ARHD.
Please keep in mind that since there is no s-off it is always neccesary to flash the right boot.img before going to another ROM or before going back!
Since you'll be using Titanium Backup switching ROMs it doesn't make sense to backup system data; big change there are some differences between system data (settings and stuff) for different ROMs. I would just backup all user apps and try to restore them in Coredroid.
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Wow, thank you very much for this comprehensive information. I'll make a nanodroid backup and a backup of my applications with Titanium Backup to restore in Coredroid, and if not what I expected, just use the nanodroid backup to return to ARHD. I'll be back to tell you how I was. Thank you!
[email protected] said:
Wow, thank you very much for this comprehensive information. I'll make a nanodroid backup and a backup of my applications with Titanium Backup to restore in Coredroid, and if not what I expected, just use the nanodroid backup to return to ARHD. I'll be back to tell you how I was. Thank you!
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No problem, glad to help
Just don't forget u also need to flash the boot.img before restoring the nandroid backup.
[email protected] said:
Wow, thank you very much for this comprehensive information. I'll make a nanodroid backup and a backup of my applications with Titanium Backup to restore in Coredroid, and if not what I expected, just use the nanodroid backup to return to ARHD. I'll be back to tell you how I was. Thank you!
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just a heads up before you go and restore those apps: DONT DO IT!!!!!!!!
backing up is all good, i guess for the same rom at least. 9 times out of 10 restoring a backup, especially on the different rom, will completely bugger up the rom, and it will run like complete crap
just install the apps manually trust me - was rooting and custom romming my friends sensation a while ago, and he restored a backup, and it broke, so we had to wipe and reinstall the rom again to get it working properly
EDIT: definitely make the nandroid backup though.
lawrence750 said:
just a heads up before you go and restore those apps: DONT DO IT!!!!!!!!
backing up is all good, i guess for the same rom at least. 9 times out of 10 restoring a backup, especially on the different rom, will completely bugger up the rom, and it will run like complete crap
just install the apps manually trust me - was rooting and custom romming my friends sensation a while ago, and he restored a backup, and it broke, so we had to wipe and reinstall the rom again to get it working properly
EDIT: definitely make the nandroid backup though.
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Probably will bugger up the ROM if you try restore system apps. Didn't have any problems restoring all my user apps.
lawrence750 said:
just a heads up before you go and restore those apps: DONT DO IT!!!!!!!!
backing up is all good, i guess for the same rom at least. 9 times out of 10 restoring a backup, especially on the different rom, will completely bugger up the rom, and it will run like complete crap
just install the apps manually trust me - was rooting and custom romming my friends sensation a while ago, and he restored a backup, and it broke, so we had to wipe and reinstall the rom again to get it working properly
EDIT: definitely make the nandroid backup though.
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Hehehehe well my friends... I flash Coredroid and restore all applications including system apps from Titanium Backup. Everything is working perfectly.
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Hehehehe well my friends... I flash Coredroid and restore all applications including system apps from Titanium Backup. Everything is working perfectly.
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that's good to hear - enjoy
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Hehehehe well my friends... I flash Coredroid and restore all applications including system apps from Titanium Backup. Everything is working perfectly.
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Great news, enjoy!
Be sure leave a reply in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861399 to share your experiences with Coredroid.
I'm always curious for experiences with other roms and I'm sure other are too :laugh:
Well my friends, but I think a good rom, used just kept only until Android Revolution HD JellyBean reached (only missing a few days). Anyway thanks for your help, I learned a lot including how to backup properly.
you're welcome, glad to help
I'm waiting for ARHD Jelly Bean as well, but it's hard
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Hi,
excuse, my english is very rusty.
I've IceColdSandwich v 8.6-AOKP on my DHD.
Unfortunately my Camera app doesn't work.
Because of that, I would update to v.8.8, but I've configured my home screen very good for me.
Therefore I want to keep this configuration. So, I don't wanna lose this configuration of the home screens.
Is it possible to jump to v8.8 without full wipe?
If so, what steps do I have to?
Thank you.
Hans
firestone3112 said:
Hi,
excuse, my english is very rusty.
I've IceColdSandwich v 8.6-AOKP on my DHD.
Unfortunately my Camera app doesn't work.
Because of that, I would update to v.8.8, but I've configured my home screen very good for me.
Therefore I want to keep this configuration. So, I don't wanna lose this configuration of the home screens.
Is it possible to jump to v8.8 without full wipe?
If so, what steps do I have to?
Thank you.
Hans
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Yes, you can dirty flash the 8.8 ICECOLD. ("dirty" means without wipe.. so just flash.if you have a custom rom my guess is you know how to)
But I'd recommend to do a backup for any case. And than try to flash the 8.8. (again, I guess you know how, if not , ask.)
You can also perform a system backup with titanium\mybackup , but its not advices.
But again perform a NAND backup . If something will go wrong you'll have a working and configured version .
good luck
Hi tripleR,
what means NAND?
I have already made a backup with Titanium. I have backuped "save all new user- and systemfiles & new Versions".
Is this ok?
THX
A NAND backup is performed from recovery and takes a single backup of the whole system. If something goes wrong, you can restore the NAND backup and you will be back to exactly the same point you were at when you took the backup. If you try 8.8 and it doesn't work, just restore the backup and you'll be back on 8.6.
A backup with titanium backs up apps and settings but runs from the ROM itself. If you are performing system changes then titanium may not be able to restore the necessary settings, so you may be stuck with the problem.
It means, that you should do a backup in your recovery. (You should always have one, because if something goes wrong, you can always restore this backup from your recovery).
I have used Titanium backup for a complete restore aswell.
But you should make sure, that your ROM is ok with this. ( I think there are ROMS, that don´t recommend this).
If you just switch the Version of the Rom, Titanium backup should work.
I did a complete wipe and restored with TB and it worked.
ok, but how I can take a NAND backup?
Can I take this in ClockworkMOD Recovery menu -> backup and restore -> backup?
If so, what is path to the backup? sdcard root?
Backups the NAND backup all apps and settings (e.g. home screen)
Thank you very much.
firestone3112 said:
Hi tripleR,
what means NAND?
I have already made a backup with Titanium. I have backuped "save all new user- and systemfiles & new Versions".
Is this ok?
THX
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It might be, but NAND is for sure. and it brings your rom to the point as you left it.
1. go to recovery and do a backup.
2. dirty flash the 8.8 .
if everything all right your ok.
if anything going wrong at any point and you dont like it go to 3
3. flash the new rom with full wipe.
4.restore settings with titanium
everything ok ? huuura .somthing wrong ? go to 5
5.restore the back up.
Exactly.
It is saved in your Clockworkmod file on the SD.
You can simply choose it from your recovery and install it again. (You should also consider switching to 4ext recovery, but i think clockwork does the job as well)
firestone3112 said:
ok, but how I can take a NAND backup?
Can I take this in ClockworkMOD Recovery menu -> backup and restore -> backup?
If so, what is path to the backup? sdcard root?
Backups the NAND backup all apps and settings (e.g. home screen)
Thank you very much.
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yes, ClockworkMOD Recovery menu -> backup and restore -> backup?
If so, what is path to the backup? sdcard root? sdcard\clockworkmod\backup
but you dont need it. when you'll go to restore it from the same place in recovery, in any point it will show it as it is.
And it back up all the rom exactly as it is. 1 to 1.
ok, I understand.
I take it now, but I am very anxious...
In german "I shut up the ass bake"
:fingers-crossed:
I will report.
Thank you very much
ohh yes, 4ext tool, that was what I had forgotten.
I think 4ext is better then ClockworkMod Recovery. Should I rather install and use this tool?
I am interested in the path of the backup, because I want to delete the backup afterwards?
It's not a good Iidea?
THX
firestone3112 said:
ohh yes, 4ext tool, that was what I had forgotten.
I think 4ext is better then ClockworkMod Recovery. Should I rather install and use this tool?
I am interested in the path of the backup, because I want to delete the backup afterwards?
It's not a good Iidea?
THX
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I like 4ext more than CWM. You can install it by getting the app either from the 4ext site or buying it from the Play Store; the app lets you flash the recovery.
The backup is saved in the sdcard in the clockworkmod folder. I recommend, though, that you keep the backup. If you ever have problems with your current setup, you can restore it. I always back up before flashing anything.
I'm done and it all works wonderfully.
Also the camera works very well now.
I love dirty flashing!!!
The Version is IceColdSandwich v 8.8-AOKP now.
Thank you very much, all.
firestone3112 said:
I'm done and it all works wonderfully.
Also the camera works very well now.
I love dirty flashing!!!
The Version is IceColdSandwich v 8.8-AOKP now.
Thank you very much, all.
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Congratulations! Be aware that, as a courtesy to the developer, don't report bugs in a dirty flash; if you have bugs in a dirty flash, do a clean flash and see if the bug is there, and only if it is should you report the bug.
ok, I'll do that but at the moment everything is working.
THX
Hi. I backed up my phone using the backup method found here: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/28296/full-backup-of-non-rooted-devices
This method uses CMD and creates an android backup file (.ab) I want to unlock my bootloader and add the custom clockwork recovery. Of course unlocking the bootloader wipes everything. So if i were to restore everything with the .ab file, then do the custom recovey with the superuser thing, would that give me root, and would all of my apps and data be restored as they are right now?
Probably a stupid question, but i want to be completely 100% sure i won't mess up my phone. I know its going to void warranty, which would be a problem if i dropped it of course
Thanks
It should work yes, you can also backup apps with an app called carbon. Free in the playstore.
Then unlock the bootloader,flash a custom recovery and make a backup of the stock rom in there right away too (needed when you want to go back to full stock for future updates) its called a nandroid backup.
Then root it and restore, or install a brand new custom already rooted rom
Thanks a lot
If it was a custom rom i chose to install, will it still restore? or would it need to be the original stock for the restore to work properly?
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Thanks a lot
If it was a custom rom i chose to install, will it still restore? or would it need to be the original stock for the restore to work properly?
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Afaik know you can restore apps on any rom with carbon. Watch out with restoring system data, it can crash the rom.
Because some custom roms have more changes and if you restore system parts it will break the rom. But apps should not be a problem. The most important thing is that you do a nandroid backup of the stock rom. The rest is easy to setup new in the worst case.
Brilliant. Thanks for the help, much apreciated.
Was half expecting an answer like that, i think i will give root stock a go, then probably when HTC stop updating i will be very tempted to give a custom a go.
Cheers
I have unlocked the bootloader, i think i have flashed the recovery, downloaded nandroid and still says i need root, so i downloaded the superuser thing and when i try to install the binary thing it says there is an error. Anything i can do?
Update: I have learnt Its all good now.
Good mate ! Have fun with your rooted phone
CASE CLOSED !