Any ideas? Just wondering if anybody new. I will edit the post to say answered to help other people.
EDIT : MARVELC AND MARVELCT ARE CDMA (have no sim) AND MARVEL IS GSM (has sim)
Thanks to the two guys bellow.
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Good question.
I believe they are different system boards of Wildfire S. I still don't know what marvelct is myself. Here's what I have in my head; could be wrong. Marvel was original model [ie Tmobile, etc; these were GSM and had sim cards], marvelc is my model [cdma, vm usa; no sim], I will take a stab and say ct is another cdma running on different frequencies [ie us cellular]; not sure on that though [just a guess]. Short answer different system boards for different models [of same phone].
Rob
Sounds pretty reasonable.
marvelct
Found one today on a google search. Page was in chinese, but they are definately cdma and the users said the model was A510c. Note to self: put Virgin Mobile US instead of A510c on thread headers; do not want some angry samaurai knocking at my door (for bricking his device). I think the theory of different freq. holds water still. Just thought I'd share.
Thanks for replys guys! I have updated thread.
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I noticed everything in this Desire section is related to the GSM Desire. Are there any custom ROMs yet for the CDMA Desire? I was to get the Clockworkmod recovery to boot from an update.zip and that appears to work ok but every Desire ROM I've tried refuses to boot.
I can't seem to find much information at all about the CDMA Desire via searching the forums or just searching on Google. From what I can tell all the hardware specifications are the same except for the radio (CDMA vs GSM). Might it be possible that current ROMs built for the GSM Desire will work for the CDMA version if a custom kernel for CDMA is compiled?
I wasn't even aware that a CDMA Desire existed!
Regards,
Dave
There was an Australian desire version. That's the only I can think about.
There is supposed to be an US version, but I think it's not available yet.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/15/slcd-equipped-htc-desire-coming-soon-to-telus/
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-desire-coming-us-august
I have a desire in South Korea that has a WCDMA sim card in it running on the SK Telecom network. Are we saying that android 2.2 port that the devs here created will only work on GSM desires? Also, does anyone know if I use an unlock code on my phone if it disrupt my service?
Sounds to me like you have a regular Desire because WCDMA is part of the GSM standard for 3G!
Regards,
Dave
No CDMA Desire out there. You guys already have the Incredible, the Evo and Droid X that don't work anywhere else but America and you want more still?
Like Dave says WCDMA is a different variant/name of the 3G network.
Strange that the Roms aren't working for you. The innards should be the same inside.
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I have a CDMA Desire. It's a test unit for one of the smaller carriers in the states (I'm not in the states) I'm using as an internet tablet/android plaything. If you guys want to know anything about it let me know.
The CDMA Desire has launched on U.S. regional carrier U.S. Cellular. Here's a link. I'll be picking one up tomorrow.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=2923
dosesdoyle said:
The CDMA Desire has launched on U.S. regional carrier U.S. Cellular. Here's a link. I'll be picking one up tomorrow.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=2923
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I'll be getting one in a couple of months. I'm curious if rooting/custom roms will work normally on it.
CDMA Desire
I have heard that Mighty Mike @ Mightyrom.com is working on a Desire Rom with 2.2!
Hes on Telus but his Touch Pro 2 Roms worked on US Celular!
JAGwar1905 said:
I have heard that Mighty Mike @ Mightyrom.com is working on a Desire Rom with 2.2!
Hes on Telus but his Touch Pro 2 Roms worked on US Celular!
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Nice! Any word on root yet?
JAGwar1905 said:
I have heard that Mighty Mike @ Mightyrom.com is working on a Desire Rom with 2.2!
Hes on Telus but his Touch Pro 2 Roms worked on US Celular!
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The Telus Touch Pro 2 is a CDMA phone and so is the USC version. So it makes sense the ROMs would be compatible.
The Telus Desire is a GSM/HSPA phone - Telus launched an HSPA network in late 2009 and they're slowly trying to make their old CDMA network irrelevant. I can almost certainly guarantee you that his Desire ROM *won't* work on a CDMA Desire.
Well that would suck!
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I am pretty sure we will not see any custom roms for our desires. However, thats not all that bad. If we can just get root. Then we can uninstall what we want, tweak what we want, Install wifi teather, etc..
I still think we can be rooted in almost the same manner as the incredible. Damn near exactly the same phone.
Anyone know how to get ahold of the unrevoked team? maybe they can help. They seem to root everything.
purezero said:
I am pretty sure we will not see any custom roms for our desires. However, thats not all that bad. If we can just get root. Then we can uninstall what we want, tweak what we want, Install wifi teather, etc..
I still think we can be rooted in almost the same manner as the incredible. Damn near exactly the same phone.
Anyone know how to get ahold of the unrevoked team? maybe they can help. They seem to root everything.
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You could try through their twitter (@unrevoked) and there is also a list of the members on their site.
is there a froyo update that's confirmed to wok on the CDMA (us cellular) desire yet?
there is suppose to be one this month
custom 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8040598#post8040598
Hi,
What is the difference between A8181 and A8183? I have a AMOLED HTC Desire and recently debranded it to Stock HTC WWE ROM and noticed that my Model Number is: HTC Desire A8181, I am sure it was 'HTC Bravo' before on T-MOBILE UK ROM.
Anyways, when I search A8183 on the net, this model is often referred to the SLCD model and when searching A8181 it's AMOLED. Have I made a mistake in flashing the wrong ROM for my device?
Key reference: link
Please advise me.
Thank you.
The A8181 and A8183 are essentially identical, except for differences in hardware between the two and the radio bands that they support 3G on. If you are on Telstra in Australia, Rogers in Canada, or AT&T in the US, you need an A8183 otherwise you need an A8181.
On the forum, in the Android Development section, you will find that ROMs are model specific (GSM ROMs for A8181 devices, and CDMA ROMs for A8183 devices), and with radio upgrades, you may find certain versions work better than others depending on carrier/area.
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MasDroid said:
On the forum, in the Android Development section, you will find that ROMs are model specific (GSM ROMs for A8181 devices, and CDMA ROMs for A8183 devices)
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Incorrect. 8183 is GSM.
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Apologies... yes, A8183 is also GSM. That's what i get for not being able to think straight and staying up late!
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Thank you both.
Oh, and the 8183 comes in both amoled (early models) as well as SLCD (current models), so the screen isn't device sepcific, but rather age specific.
cr1960 said:
Oh, and the 8183 comes in both amoled (early models) as well as SLCD (current models), so the screen isn't device sepcific, but rather age specific.
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Is there any obvious difference in screen quality between the two screen types?
(Sorry, I know this post is old, but thought it easier than making a whole new post about this)
How can you tell the difference? Sorry for being a noob.
EDIT - Noob not noon
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By carrier. Virgin Mobile, MetroPCS, and US Cellular are all CDMA phones.
Another way to tell is to turn off your phone and pull the battery. Replace the battery and hold Volume Down and Power until you boot into "hboot". At the top, it should say in the second or third line that it is "MARVEL", "MARVELC", or "MARVELCT".
Marvel=GSM
Marvelc=CDMA
Marvelct=China's CDMA
Although, from your XDA app signature, I can already tell that you have a GSM phone. (A510e)
Also, sim card = gsm, no sim card = CDMA
bobdamnit said:
By carrier. Virgin Mobile, MetroPCS, and US Cellular are all CDMA phones.
Another way to tell is to turn off your phone and pull the battery. Replace the battery and hold Volume Down and Power until you boot into "hboot". At the top, it should say in the second or third line that it is "MARVEL", "MARVELC", or "MARVELCT".
Marvel=GSM
Marvelc=CDMA
Marvelct=China's CDMA
Although, from your XDA app signature, I can already tell that you have a GSM phone. (A510e)
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In addition, in the US, T-Mobile is the GSM carrier
Also, the GSM was released earlier, therefore there are more ROMs for the GSM variant (Marvel, A510a/e). The CDMA WFS (Marvelc/ct, A510c) was released later (Around Late October/Early November 2011). There are fewer ROMs and it has been slightly harder to develop for, from what I have noticed.
Also, the CDMA variant has S-OFF already. GSM does not yet have S-OFF, but the very talented developers are working on it in this thread: http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/1374926/
for unlocked gsm phones, you can just put in ay sim card and the phone will work
but for cdma, you have to activate it online or at the store or somewhere
Yes, you should go with what bobdamnit said. Also, what's a "noon"?
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Eeesh, I was supposed to write 'noob'
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kalaker said:
In addition, in the US, T-Mobile is the GSM carrier
Also, the GSM was released earlier, therefore there are more ROMs for the GSM variant (Marvel, A510a/e). The CDMA WFS (Marvelc/ct, A510c) was released later (Around Late October/Early November 2011). There are fewer ROMs and it has been slightly harder to develop for, from what I have noticed.
Also, the CDMA variant has S-OFF already. GSM does not yet have S-OFF, but the very talented developers are working on it in this thread: http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/1374926/
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My metropcs A510c came with s-on. I followed one of the tuts here to get it s-off.
chicle_11 said:
My metropcs A510c came with s-on. I followed one of the tuts here to get it s-off.
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I guess that wasn't written clearly. I meant that CDMA has S-OFF available already. As in the ability and tutorials existed.
I've cdma for Vm but I've S-ON and my new degitizer doesn't work
chicle_11 said:
Also, sim card = gsm, no sim card = CDMA
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Technically the CDMA2000 standard does include SIM cards (called CSIMs), but they're an optional part of the spec and aren't used by any north american carrier that I know of.
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Cdma is quite bigger than the GSM
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rezo609 said:
Cdma is quite bigger than the GSM
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Not really. CDMAone/CDMA2000 only ever really took off in North America, for a few reasons, notably that SIMless CDMA makes for really easy lock-in and also CDMA is cheaper to deploy in rural areas due to the no limit on physical cell size (previously, a GSM cell had a maximum radius of 35km, imposed by its used of TDMA.), resulting in the need for fewer towers.
Globally, CDMAone/CDMA2000 make up less than 10% of the market.
Hi all,
I've recently moved to China and taken my Desire with me. I had assumed I could just unlock it and use a chinese sim but it doesnt seem to be working. From what i've read on various sites it seems China telecom (who are my new provider) use CDMA(?) and Evo-do(?). I'm not going to pretend to understand what these terms mean.
Does anyone know if there is a rom i can flash which will allow me to use the desire on this network? Failing that I do have a chinese lenovo a68e but all of the sites i've found for it so far are in chinese so if anyone can point me in the direction of a custom rom for it (english please ) which i can use i would also be grateful but i would much prefer to get my desire working.
Any help or advice you could give is very much appreciated.
Sorry mate, I'm guessing you have a GSM device (it have a sim card in it). GSM and CDMA are two completely different technologys, they have different hardware in them, that's why CDMA users brick there phones if they flash a GSM ROM. I don't think there is a way to just change GSM into CDMA by flashing a Rom.
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Rageypeep said:
Sorry mate, I'm guessing you have a GSM device (it have a sim card in it). GSM and CDMA are two completely different technologys, they have different hardware in them, that's why CDMA users brick there phones if they flash a GSM ROM. I don't think there is a way to just change GSM into CDMA by flashing a Rom.
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Thanks for the quick reply
My new phone has a sim card just like a uk one. I'll be honest and say I don't know much about any of this stuff but i've found good advice on this site and used roms and things found here before.
Are there CDMA sim cards and GSM sim cards?
It not problem in sim cards CDMA and GSM are network technologies,you have to buy CDMA phone(for example CDMA htc Desire).No ROM can help you.Here's more on CDMA and GSM.(link)
If you have a GSM device, China Mobile shall you go.
no, the difference is in hardware level, u can't do nothing
Hey all, purchased a sealed One V from a guy on a PC forum. He said it's CDMA.
Now I thought Virgin US was GSM, and Virgin EU was CDMA?
Is he probably right? If so, which would be better in the US?
I was thinking most of you on here have the GSM model ROMS, etc. So hopefully mine is still root-friendly..
Virgin USA is cdma. And as far as I know Europe doesn't have any cdma networks.
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Gotcha! Thanks, I thought the same.
Appreciate it!