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I have been using HTC devices for many years now:
Pison 5MX, HP Jornada 720, HTC Alpin, HTC Trinity, HTC Kaiser and HTC Polaris!
The form factor of the new TP2 is brilliant.
HOWEVER, the keyboard is just not designed very efficiently for me because it is half of the size of the total width. Which means that the rear part is not used for the keyboard.
I would have preferred a FULL keyboard such as the one on the HTC Universal or on the Psion 5MX or Jornada 720!
I don't understand the point of designing a PDA with a built-in keyboard if the keyboard is just too small which makes it even not usuable. The one on the Kaiser was so small.
HTC produced the Universal with a full sized keyboard using the full width of the screen.
Why not on the newest models?
Any ideas?
I've had a few thoughts being a long time mini-keyboard user...
It's true that a bigger keyboard can make things easier, but for typing with your thumbs, too big is also a problem due to limited reach.
Typing with a Psion 5 was not great with two thumbs, and with a phone you want to type on the go, so this is more important than 2 handed typing while at a desk / other solid surface. As most people want to carry their phone with them a Psion 5 sized phone would not be too popular!
Having a full width & height keyboard while keeping the ability to put the keyboard away (for touch screen only use) will usually require a bulky tilt & twist hinge (like on Zaurus C series, Clie UX / NX, or HTC universal), which means the screen has to be smaller / narrower. Quickly sliding out a keyboard to hammer out a text is faster than opening and then twisting a hinge.
The Kaiser keyboard was fantastic in my opinion - I could type very quickly on it, probably not far off my Psion 5 speed (as when you didn't hit the Psion keys in the centre, they did not always work).
Have you any ideas for achieving a bigger keyboard without compromising on the screen size, usability or overall size of the phone?
I don't have a problem with the Keyboard size at all. I think it's just about perfect. My problem is the fact that they made the buttons much bigger and removed 10 keys from the original touch pro. Yeah, It makes it easier for some, but I know I'd rather have the keys. The keyboard still would have had really big buttons.
As a happy Universal owner I understand very well the point of sayborg.
As far as I know the only devices with great keyboards are:
Universal
Advantage
Shift
Toth (New)
But the last 3 options are too big...
I´m in the same interrogant? I want/need to upgrade my 2005 Universal but nothing I can see in the near future as a REAL replacement
TP2 is the closer one I can think
Hope HTC have some secret devices on that form factor, but I doub it
I don't know what to think about the keyboard yet. The buttons feel good, not slippery. The number keys at the top are a pain in the ass because the lip of the top layer is slightly overlapping making it just annoying enough to bug me. On screen keyboard is pretty tight. No complaints there.
DavidMc0 said:
I've had a few thoughts being a long time mini-keyboard user...
It's true that a bigger keyboard can make things easier, but for typing with your thumbs, too big is also a problem due to limited reach.
Typing with a Psion 5 was not great with two thumbs, and with a phone you want to type on the go, so this is more important than 2 handed typing while at a desk / other solid surface. As most people want to carry their phone with them a Psion 5 sized phone would not be too popular!
Having a full width & height keyboard while keeping the ability to put the keyboard away (for touch screen only use) will usually require a bulky tilt & twist hinge (like on Zaurus C series, Clie UX / NX, or HTC universal), which means the screen has to be smaller / narrower. Quickly sliding out a keyboard to hammer out a text is faster than opening and then twisting a hinge.
The Kaiser keyboard was fantastic in my opinion - I could type very quickly on it, probably not far off my Psion 5 speed (as when you didn't hit the Psion keys in the centre, they did not always work).
Have you any ideas for achieving a bigger keyboard without compromising on the screen size, usability or overall size of the phone?
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Thanks for the comments guys!
Well, for me, it would have been nicer to keep the SAME size of the current TP2 but with a wider keyboard, this wouldn't make the device bigger because the rear part/surface of the keyboard is even not used. A wider keyboard wouldn't cost more and wouldn't be heavier.
I thing the problem is that the producers of such devices are usually not consumers. I doubt that poeple who have designed such devices have as much usage experience as us. They sometimes lack of subtilty I think.
I also think that there is no perfect repalcement of the HTC Universal which is sad.
There is also the Acer M900 which has an OK keyboard but it is not tilting and again the keyboard is not designed efficiently/optimally for me but again this is a personal opinion!
For me there is no point to have a 2,8 " PDA whith a build-in keyboard. Keys are just to small...
Maybe one day, we will see the perfect HTC Device...
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Maybe one day, we will see the perfect HTC Device...
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It's true that we aren't there yet, but as far as hardware I think the Rhodium is getting pretty dame close. Huge screen, sturdy construction, physical slideout keyboard, and a large enough screen that the onscreen finger keyboard is very usable. These are many things that I've been waiting for. The only thing that can make the design better is to make it thiner which will take so time in tech advancement.
I still think they shouldn't be losing some of the buttons they had on the titan/tilt style phones (d-pad and soft key hardware buttons). However, I'm probably not giving the usability of the touch interface enough credit.
As long as the software is up to par (hadware acceleration and strong usability) then it's all gravy. This is the device I've been waiting for for a long time. I'm also thinking that once it's been out a year or so The Android roms for it will be pretty advanced and very capable. Overall, this has a TON of potential and I think it will be the first phone I don't constantly look forward to the next version on.
I just hope against hope that they have enabled hardware acceleration on this phone. If we have another non-implemented 2D/3D driver while relying on CPU power for rendering gsnarfle... I'd be most unhappy.
That's one of the big reasons I'm looking to move away from my Mogul... while it's a decent phone, they seem to have shot it in the leg and then told it to go run a marathon.
It may be my ignorance to the matter, but I hope that all the touchflo3D phones have full hardware acceleration support!
sayborg said:
Thanks for the comments guys!
Well, for me, it would have been nicer to keep the SAME size of the current TP2 but with a wider keyboard, this wouldn't make the device bigger because the rear part/surface of the keyboard is even not used. A wider keyboard wouldn't cost more and wouldn't be heavier.
I thing the problem is that the producers of such devices are usually not consumers. I doubt that poeple who have designed such devices have as much usage experience as us. They sometimes lack of subtilty I think.
I also think that there is no perfect repalcement of the HTC Universal which is sad.
There is also the Acer M900 which has an OK keyboard but it is not tilting and again the keyboard is not designed efficiently/optimally for me but again this is a personal opinion!
For me there is no point to have a 2,8 " PDA whith a build-in keyboard. Keys are just to small...
Maybe one day, we will see the perfect HTC Device...
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well honestly I think I think if they used the whole width it would take up to much space be harder to reach the keys on the ends of the keyboard with your thumbs., and also the kaiser keyboard is not bad, it is very easy to type on for me and I can type fast, adn honestly I think they are making hte keyboards smaller cause its easier to use them on the go,
but look at a pic of the touch pro 2 keyaboard they did make it use mroe space, so they know what you mean it does make typing easier, but for phones with HUGE keyboards.. well most people dont want a phone that big but honestly they used almost all of the space on the touch pro 2 for the keyboard
The only thing that worries me is the lack of the windows key and the ok button. Those two will be missed greatly. Otherwise, I think the keyboard will be a huge improvement over my Mogul's.
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I also think that there is no perfect repalcement of the HTC Universal which is sad.
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Eh sorry. While i havent used any touch device yet, i looked at the Universal, and one word jumped out at me.. Bulky. That thing just looks to big and clunky to be of any fluid use.
I was actually happy when i saw a pitcure of the TP2 keyboard. They keys look like a good size, and the bit of space between them i was happy to see because i toyed with the fuze/tilt and i fat-fingered with that keyboard enough to annoy me.
As far as removing keys... as Ranch Wilder would say..."Less is more". Just because a device as more keys/buttons doesn't mean its better. Take the Logitech G11 keyboard. They dumped a bunch of Macro keys on it, most of which never got used, and only made the keyboard take up more space. Their next version of the G15, the removed alot of the G keys (macro keys) to cut the size down, but there's still plenty to be useful.
I think its more a matter of people being use to so many keys, however i think the touch interface will more than make up for it. Plus i guess that puts me at and advantage where this will be my first phone with a keyboard.
If you feel the keys are too small, tell this to the Blackberry users.
I think the keyboard was stretched pretty close to the edges, I think its fine. the universal has a different target audience than the touch pro 2 if you want the PERFECT universal replacement I suggest this phone:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/shift/specification.html
but I never used or saw a universal so im not sure, but the shift is a really nice phone with a big keyboard and it has ALOT of speed, but it costs alot more than most phones and is wont fit in your pocket either but it seems like the perfect replacement plus it runs windows vista! a real os not a mobile one
and it has a finger print scanner built in whats not to like about that.
CAPS & Function Keys
I cannot imagine why the CAPS(shift) and Function keys are not reversed! Didn't the designers look at a computer keyboard?
So my question is - can the key functions be changed in the software and can the keycaps be popped off and switched?
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Hope HTC have some secret devices on that form factor, but I doub it
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Alas, I have been wishing this for years...
when the original Universal came out, as a college student, I didn't have the means for a Universal...
All I can do now is hope...
Used to taking down notes on my windows mobile 6.5 although I am pretty happy with my new Trophy and WP7 I miss so much the possibility of taking notes down with sort of stylus pen that I am not able to cope with the screen keyboard. I can't use the recording speech feature because in some meetings I wouldn't like to appear some kind of spy
Which technology are made our Trophy screen of? Capacitative?
Is there any possibility?
Any ideas?
ondaalfa said:
Used to taking down notes on my windows mobile 6.5 although I am pretty happy with my new Trophy and WP7 I miss so much the possibility of taking notes down with sort of stylus pen that I am not able to cope with the screen keyboard. I can't use the recording speech feature because in some meetings I wouldn't like to appear some kind of spy
Which technology are made our Trophy screen of? Capacitative?
Is there any possibility?
Any ideas?
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Search for the HTC HD 2 stylus
Many thanks tessut, I'll have a look.
ondaalfa said:
Many thanks tessut, I'll have a look.
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Just hit thanks the next time like i do
Any capacitive (only capacitive) stylus should work heck, I've even made one using a pen, paper towel, and some water that works on my HTC Trophy... but any CAPACITIVE touch screen stylus will work.
There are a lot of really cheap capacitive styluses on Amazon. Take a look here!
Why do a lot of people bash a phone for having a Physical Keyboard? They are a lot better then the Software Keyboards. You can feel if you hit 1 or more keys when typing with a Physical Keyboard. When you type with a Software Keyboard, you might have Haptic Feedback, but you can't tell by that, if you hit more than 1 space. Also, with the Physical Keyboard you can see the entire screen while typing, unlike the Software Keyboard which only let's you see just a small part of the screen while typing. I feel that ALL Smartphones should come with the Physical Keyboards.
I have a physical keyboard on my quantum and I love it... Though I'm not sure what this topic has to do with wp7
It's about the only thing I miss from my old N97
I'm trying to hold out till there is a new WP7 with a phyiscal keyboard
Sadly, I don't see any WP7 phones with a physical keyboard in the pipeline. I was hoping for a replacement to the HTC Pro 7, but it doesn't seem so. :-(
Maybe Nokia will develop something.
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that's why i bought dell venue pro..excellent physical keyboard:X
simply because people are stupid. A hardware keyboard is much better tan the virtual one, and its stupid to say that it makes the phone thicker!!!! the key would be a keyboard phone with a W8-like OS, and with a mini touchpad like the Old WM6.1 phones. But, its only a dream, now we are in the dumbphone era, so this is only sci-fi. My Optimus 7 is much thicker than many keyboard-phones...
agreed, will be holding onto my quantum until a suitable next gen qwerty keyboard WP gets released.
7pro for me
keyboardless phones are a no-go for me
can nokia please cough out an E7 with wp7?
gd761 said:
Why do a lot of people bash a phone for having a Physical Keyboard? ... I feel that ALL Smartphones should come with the Physical Keyboards.
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Phones with keyboards are generally thicker and heavier than phones without keyboards. Some people would not want a keyboard if:
- they can type just as fast using the on-screen keyboard or;
- they don't type much on their phone.
In this case, they would choose the thinner, lighter and probably cheaper phone.
Personally, I prefer a physical keyboard too. However, it's good to have a choice of devices as people have different needs.
Just so long as Sprint keeps up the WP7 "Touch Pro 2" Style phones, I will keep getting them
Though I would switch to a fancy HTC Titan if Sprint got that also.
If only Sprint got the HD2 way back when... Sigh..
yes
They need to make a WP with a physical keyboard. Dual core processor. 4 in plus screen. Front and back facing camera. At least an 8 mp camera and expandable memory. That would be a great phone. But for now I love my Arrive. And I don't ever buy a phone with out a physical keyboard.
Arrive vs Quantum
supercain said:
They need to make a WP with a physical keyboard. Dual core processor. 4 in plus screen. Front and back facing camera. At least an 8 mp camera and expandable memory. That would be a great phone. But for now I love my Arrive. And I don't ever buy a phone with out a physical keyboard.
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believe me, you would love your Arrive even more if you tried a Quantum. OMG, it is a nightmare if you're used to the Arrive.
I think there are those of us who have used keyboards since the beginning of time and it is hard to let go, then there are those who have only recently jumped in to the smart phone arena straight in to a virtual one and they got good at it and know no difference. I have seen smart phone newbies with virtual keyboards typing just as fast or faster than I do on the physical.
When I just switched to AT&T (signal reasons) I was forced to get the Quantum and the difference is amazing. Not flaming the Quantum for those who have it and know no better. I wish that were the case, believe me. Those of us who started out on the UTC 6600, then 6700, then Mogul, then TP1 and TP2 were very satisfied with the Arrive. That is a very nice landscape slider. My wife and I just ordered replacement Focus S's to send our Quantums back (our text maniac daughter is hanging in there in fear of losing her text messages). Amazon says that we can have 30 days after we get these Focus S's and we are hoping that a landscape slider breaks for Christmas (there's rumor of a landscape slider from Nokia). Of course the expensive solution to the whole thing is an unlocked Pro 7. That's the dream. I would swap all of my former Sprint smart phones for 3 Pro 7's
I like my quantum..
What was your issue with it?
I hate how people say "at least an 8 megapixel camera"...
They can't seem to comprehend megapixel means size not quality..
The quality is dependent on the sensor.
There are 5 megapixel cameras that will destroy an 8 mpx one when it comes to quality....
livejazz said:
believe me, you would love your Arrive even more if you tried a Quantum. OMG, it is a nightmare if you're used to the Arrive.
I think there are those of us who have used keyboards since the beginning of time and it is hard to let go, then there are those who have only recently jumped in to the smart phone arena straight in to a virtual one and they got good at it and know no difference. I have seen smart phone newbies with virtual keyboards typing just as fast or faster than I do on the physical.
When I just switched to AT&T (signal reasons) I was forced to get the Quantum and the difference is amazing. Not flaming the Quantum for those who have it and know no better. I wish that were the case, believe me. Those of us who started out on the UTC 6600, then 6700, then Mogul, then TP1 and TP2 were very satisfied with the Arrive. That is a very nice landscape slider. My wife and I just ordered replacement Focus S's to send our Quantums back (our text maniac daughter is hanging in there in fear of losing her text messages). Amazon says that we can have 30 days after we get these Focus S's and we are hoping that a landscape slider breaks for Christmas (there's rumor of a landscape slider from Nokia). Of course the expensive solution to the whole thing is an unlocked Pro 7. That's the dream. I would swap all of my former Sprint smart phones for 3 Pro 7's
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i had a SE P900, then i swapped to an atom for awhile, before i got hooked on the tp1. on my 7 pro now. but oh boy would i kill to get a nokia E7 flavoured WP7
I was a sucker for physical keyboards too before and bout hp ipaq 614 just for that reason..
But after trying wp7 virtual keys.. i say its a good riddance..
WM6.5 screens had diff touch technology.. where we had to press screen hard.. thats why we had keyboards..
But wp7 has some new tech.. i dont know what they call it.. but we dont have to put pressure on screen with a stick.. it senses your finger using some electro-magnetic thing.. its way better than using physical keyboard, but still needs some improvement.
Purple11 said:
I was a sucker for physical keyboards too before and bout hp ipaq 614 just for that reason..
But after trying wp7 virtual keys.. i say its a good riddance..
WM6.5 screens had diff touch technology.. where we had to press screen hard.. thats why we had keyboards..
But wp7 has some new tech.. i dont know what they call it.. but we dont have to put pressure on screen with a stick.. it senses your finger using some electro-magnetic thing.. its way better than using physical keyboard, but still needs some improvement.
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lol...
Resistive vs. Capacitive
this is the most realistic rumor I've seen around....
http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-working-qwerty-windows-phone-deeper-intergration
We now know its not the first out, but it definately looks as if it could be a prospect.
SoByX said:
that's why i bought dell venue pro..excellent physical keyboard:X
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Agree, one of the best ever.
magicsquid said:
Phones with keyboards are generally thicker and heavier than phones without keyboards. Some people would not want a keyboard if:
- they can type just as fast using the on-screen keyboard or;
- they don't type much on their phone.
In this case, they would choose the thinner, lighter and probably cheaper phone.
Personally, I prefer a physical keyboard too. However, it's good to have a choice of devices as people have different needs.
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I entirely agree with you, but what annoys me is there is no choice (in any OS).
You can have high spec, but only if you have a stupidly oversized screen.
You can have a small screen, but only if you don't want a decent spec.
You can have a decent keyboard, but only once every 2 years, which fair enough adds to the size (I don't care frankly), but what annoys me is you pay more than the highest spec phones but DON'T get high spec.
Why can't I have high spec in a small phone, with a keyboard. I don't mind if it's thicker. Any screen bigger than the one on the 7 Pro is just too big to be practical.
Has anyone noticed that there is light bleed from the three capacitive buttons into the bottom of the screen.
Like three tiny spotlights flashing into the bottom of the AMOLED screen.
It is more evident when in a completely dark screen in low light conditions.
Does your Lumia 900 exhibit this scenario ?
Lumia 900 White UK version
I’m pritty sure that it happens with all the Lumia 900's
My White Lumia 900 even has bleeding at the top by the sensor,
but this only happens when the screen is totally off and the buttons are lit up when i see the bleeding white light from them (when the phone battery is totally dead and you plug it in is mainly when i saw it) there is a tiny gap between the screen and the black of the buttons that lets the white light from the buttons seep through
Thanks for the reply and information intwischa.
I have exchanged my initial handset and the light bleed is slightly less on the new replacement but it is still there!!
A huge oversight by Nokia if I may say so!
Best phone ever to work in full sunlight. But I guess you shouldn't look at the screen in total darkness cause you will be totally bummed by some light bleed. Can't please all of the people all of the time.
I will be sure to avoid total darkness situations. Still loving my "original" L900, even with some perceived imperfections.
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I have stayed off the thread because I was wondering just WHAT someone might be doing with their phone in the dark
Im sure some people will find this a big deal but I have found very few "reasonably priced" electronic devices with a screen without *some* type of light bleed at an edge.
Screen bleed?
I don't see any screen bleed on my device. Then again, I'm coming from and LG G2X which had significant screen bleed at all four corners. Maybe LG desensitized me to anything that isn't grossly obvious. I also haven't noticed my Lumia rebooting a dozen times a day or overheating in my pocket.
This is a great phone! So glad I made the switch from android to wp!
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Best phone ever to work in full sunlight. But I guess you shouldn't look at the screen in total darkness cause you will be totally bummed by some light bleed. Can't please all of the people all of the time.
I will be sure to avoid total darkness situations. Still loving my "original" L900, even with some perceived imperfections.
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Indeed this phone has got the best screen for bright sunshine scenarios.
However, the light bleed from the backlight of the capacitive buttons into the bottom of the screen is just poor design!
One expects better internal design from Nokia especially since they are the same company which designed this great Clear Black technology
I was slightly disappointed by the display of my Lumia 900. Indeed the capacitive buttons leak a lot of light into the bottom of the screen but thankfully to Windows, I guess, those are off most of the time. My last Nokia was E7 and that display was absolutely awesome. Excellent visibility, great color reproduction and real 100% blacks (unlike most Samsung AMOLED displays I have seen), no light leaks or purplish tint or anything. I'm yet to see a display that's better in any aspect, except resolution, than E7's.
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I had this on my original whiteLumia. But, haven't noticed it at all on my second white one that I exchanged for the purple tint issue. Guess that's one of those "variances" that occur during manufacturing.
can you guys take photos? my amaze that i just sold had horrible bleed to the point i had to turn off the lights lol
My Nokia has the same problem, although it's not much of a problem since I usually use it outdoors. Love the ClearBlack display though...
hx4700 Killer said:
I have stayed off the thread because I was wondering just WHAT someone might be doing with their phone in the dark
Im sure some people will find this a big deal but I have found very few "reasonably priced" electronic devices with a screen without *some* type of light bleed at an edge.
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I'm thinking the same thing. People will generally complain about anything...especially when they are Anonymous . They will want the performance of a Porsche on a Ford Fiesta. They will want the beauty and reliability of a Rolex on a Roldex. They want the convienence of a paid app, on a free app.
Anything assembled by man or machine, has its flaws. Light Bleed is one of many complaints that is important to only a hand ful of people here. I'm sure if I go over my phone with a microscope, I will find something to disagree with...Price doesn't matter in the quality of things...from iPhone, to Android to WP, to Blackberry. Each one as something. If you look long enough, and hard enough, you'll find something, anything, even Waldo...
If it bothers you enough, return it. Otherwise, I can NOT believe Manchester City actually won something !!!
My 900 has ZERO light bleed. Even with the screen completely black and in a dark room. None whatsoever.
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My 900 has ZERO light bleed. Even with the screen completely black and in a dark room. None whatsoever.
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May I ask, is your Lumia the USA or the Europe version ?
What colour ?
US, black, at&t
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Is the ZTE Axon 7 as good-looking as you are (despite your receding hairline, adult-onset acne, and massive weight gain)? Rate this thread to express whether you think the ZTE Axon 7 is attractive. A higher rating indicates that you would even go as far to say that the ZTE Axon 7 is a beautiful phone.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Does anyone have the Quarts yet? I have always been a white phone guy since the SGS3 but I am kinda liking the off gold color. What do you guys think of the gold vs quarts (gray) look.
For me with low vision I like the gold because greater contrast with black area where small nav keys are.
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Does anyone have the Quarts yet? I have always been a white phone guy since the SGS3 but I am kinda liking the off gold color. What do you guys think of the gold vs quarts (gray) look.
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Well don't have any quarts at all since I quit drinking beer.
The Quartz Gray phone is on the way and will be here Friday the 19th.
imp3r10 said:
Does anyone have the Quarts yet? I have always been a white phone guy since the SGS3 but I am kinda liking the off gold color. What do you guys think of the gold vs quarts (gray) look.
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Looks amazing. If you are into grey.
It gives it a less flashy look.
worst thing about the Axon 7 looks wise is that god awful writing on the back of the phone.
Branding?
pwnerman said:
worst thing about the Axon 7 looks wise is that god awful writing on the back of the phone.
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Is the writing/branding a decal or etched in? (Mine should be here today!)
If a decal, maybe this will work...
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...on-logo-on-nexus-6-heres-how-to-remove-it.htm
I have the quartz, I LOVE IT. I thought I'd never get away from the Samsung note series, but this phones aesthetics are beautiful.
I may be a minority (maybe...) but as an owner of the chinese 6gb/128gb variant I do have to honestly say I REALLY like the faux 'wood embossing' on the speaker covers (they're plastic just like any other model, but for this one specific variant, they went an extra step to try to give it a bit 'more premium' look). That plus the overall gold look is a really nice package to me.
I love the gold version. This is a VERY premium looking/feeling phone. I don't know how they got away with a $400 price tag..
They totally ruined the look of the US version with the hardware keys. Plus they are awful to use. If I could figure out which version(s) don't have hardware keys and can run on US carriers, I would switch.
tennear said:
They totally ruined the look of the US version with the hardware keys. Plus they are awful to use. If I could figure out which version(s) don't have hardware keys and can run on US carriers, I would switch.
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The only variant without hardware keys is the A2017 ( Chinese ) and the Chinese as far as i know have 3 different variants :
- A2017 with 4 GB Ram + 64 GB Storage.
- A2017 with 4 GB Ram + 128 GB Storage.
- A2017 with 6 GB Ram + 128 GB Storage + Force Touch.
haven't really look into if support USA bands.
I would hate to use valuable screen space for the buttons. Perhaps PIE would be a good option, although I don't mind those on the A2017U
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They totally ruined the look of the US version with the hardware keys. Plus they are awful to use. If I could figure out which version(s) don't have hardware keys and can run on US carriers, I would switch.
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For me the hardware buttons are a plus! They leave the full screen space for apps and they're always available.
I think the design of Axon 7 is really superb. The phone is looking very great with metallic finishing.
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For me the hardware buttons are a plus! They leave the full screen space for apps and they're always available.
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yep I guess a lot of people feel the same. The problem is that they badly integrated them for no reason: the ZTE Nubia line has the same 3 capacitive buttons (dot circle dot) and they are backlit and well spaced. Even if they implemented them as a last time feature on the Axon, they already had the experience and the technology to do it well... The lack of backlighting is a real issue. For instance, on a samsung phone if you didn't use the light on the capacitive keys you would intuitively know that they are right and left of the home physical button. Whereas with the axon you just have a bar with 3 keys which don't have their "safe" space. So in the dark, even if you get used to it, it will always be kind of a guess attempt. That's why anyhow, it would great to have the choice between capacitive and on screen buttons, like in cyanogenmod.
I think this phone is pretty sleek, even with a case on it.
The aluminum body and front facing speakers give it a premium look and feel.
The huge screen has many iPhone users envious, often asking me what phone this is. Yeah, it's sexy enough to convert users from iOS to Android.