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Tablet and evo? Worth it?

I'm thinking about getting a honeycomb tablet, since I'm always using my phone around the house, I feel like id get alot of use outta it. But are they that much better than the evo, is it worth it to have both?
Just a note, I'm soon going to be overseas with only wifi for a year. I'm debating Between tablet or a tv since I don't wanna take the 55" led. Mainly for PS3.
Any thoughts.
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I have multiples: Sprint Hero, Sprint EVO 4G, Acer Iconia A500, Viewsonic gTablet
The Acer is the only one that has Honeycomb (right now it is running 3.1...I was trying to get 3.2 to run, but I'm having troubles with Netflix on that version). It has troubles at times with touch (sometimes I can get it to run really fast, other times I have lag). Other than that, it's a good tablet and I use it for quite a number of things (more recently, Netflix). Honeycomb, however, doesn't have nearly the apps available as Gingerbread does (not sure why...I haven't had issues with the apps I put on it). Also, careful with this one as I already cracked one by pushing on it too hard. Battery life is pretty good on it.
The Viewsonic is running CyanogenMod 7.0.3 (Gingerbread). It works really well, too. Unfortunately, it doesn't have built-in GPS, so I have to use an external GPS for it. So, I do have problems with programs that need a GPS, if I forget to turn on the external one. It's heavier than the Acer, but it feels sturdier. Battery life is good (not as good as the Acer). I use that when I need two tablets (there are times for that...just not often).
If you can afford one, go ahead and get one. I would definitely root it and put a custom rom. You'll find XDA developers are quite a bit faster in getting the latest updates than the manufacturer.
ldc2335 said:
I'm thinking about getting a honeycomb tablet, since I'm always using my phone around the house, I feel like id get alot of use outta it. But are they that much better than the evo, is it worth it to have both?
Just a note, I'm soon going to be overseas with only wifi for a year. I'm debating Between tablet or a tv since I don't wanna take the 55" led. Mainly for PS3.
Any thoughts.
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This is out of character for me and I really hate apple to hell. lol. but go get an IPad, it's actually developed lol. and better quality than the androids. I REALLLLLY HATE apple. I wish apples would all die and never exist. But oh well. lol.

I also have the Viewsonic gTablet, running GtabComb 3.2. If you tether it to your phone's wifi, it can do everything an iPad can do apart from GPS and photos/video recording... but if you've got your phone, you can make up the difference. Plus, it has expandable memory and a USB port.

In going for the thrive or transformer
Both come with 3.1
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This is out of character for me and I really hate apple to hell. lol. but go get an IPad, it's actually developed lol. and better quality than the androids. I REALLLLLY HATE apple. I wish apples would all die and never exist. But oh well. lol.
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I avoided apple for a long time also. I have an evo, archos70 (love it), couple beater android tablets that will end up in the walls of my house for A/V and lighting control when I get it all how I want, and now an ipad. App wise, android is a huge loser here. Once jailbroken, the ipad is pretty nice for customization. It also kills all my other tablets except the archos for battery. It beats the archos even with a bigger screen, but not by a ton.
Long story short, yes. You are used to using your phone for access, a tablett is just that much better. Any good tablet.

the reason why the IPad is better than just about all the android tabs out is because a tablet is more like a computer. That is what apple does , they do computers. so of course they would have the know how to make a amazing tablet. Android is still a phone OS. even Honeycomb is still heavily based on a phones hardware. Don't get me wrong i wouldn't buy an Apple if my life was on the line, but they do make a good tablet. I personally have a Archos 70 IT and love it. No it doesn't have a tegra chip or GPS but it does just fine for everyday use. and if you want GPS buy a key chain Bluetooth GPS receiver. they are pretty cheep and most are extremely accurate. and if you are going to be taking it with you places it is way more portable than more of the larger tablets. Or you could wait a few months for the Gen 9 to be released with, i believe but am not for sure, has the tegra chip and GPS and a few more upgrades.
But all this is just my opinion.

Thanks guys, I will not own an ipad. I agree they are nice. But that doesn't change my mind. I just went and tried a Xoom. It was nice though I'm leaning toward the thrive because of the removable battery and full usb jack.
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Ok, now im down to transformer or thrive. I hate decisions. Any input.
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Well the tf is less expensive, but to get full use out of the ports you need to buy the dock. I am currently in a pickle deciding on the iconia or the tf. I have a coupon for 100 off at staples if you want. You can actually find it in the iconia or tf forums. I have a thread started in general getting comparisons of both.
Hope I helped.
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Not an acer fan. Really it is only the appearance of the the thrive keeping me away. It def has the most features, minus the non ips screen and the huge charger. However all the ports and removable battery are nice. How can you hard reset the others if they freeze up etc if you can't pull the battery.?
I played with them all today briefly and thought the tf felt very sturdy and had a great screen so I'm torn.
Style or function?
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First, yes, I do think that there's a place in my life for a tablet, a smartphone, and a laptop. At first I didn't think a tablet fit in, but I'm coming around. Still, nobody's quite gotten it 100% right yet.
Lack of USB in the tablet itself is a big turnoff for me on the Transformer. If it had that, I think I'd be sold on it. It's not quite as light or thin as the Galaxy or the iPad 2 (which I'm looking at for comparison, but don't plan to buy), but it's close enough. It feels great in the hand too. I'm not opposed to buying the keyboard, but I don't like that there's no USB support without it.
The Toshiba is noticeably bigger and heavier, but the full size SD and full size USB are both strong draws. I do not like the feel of it though. The rubber back just made it feel clunky to me -- not just heavy, but clunky. I do realize that getting the full size ports has to come with some tradeoffs.
Acer is tempting, but I've never considered them a quality brand. I dunno. Design's OK...not bad, not great. The USB port is keeping me from eliminating it.
The Samsung would be a very strong contender if it had even a microSD card for expansion. USB support via an adapter isn't as nice as having it built in, but it's acceptable. I might be able to live without microSD given that it does have USB storage support, but it's less than ideal. The design is great, particularly the metallic slate version -- I know it's not really metal, but the texture feels nice.
The Xoom's not bad, but it's a bit heavy and thick. Not as bad as the Toshiba though.
Lenovo's got a pair coming, and the version in the Thinkpad line appears to have full size USB and SD. I'll be interested to see how that one turns out. And HTC's got to have something coming soon in the 10.1" Honeycomb size eventually.

Transformer on the way. Let the rooting begin.
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Now that you had the A100 for a while any problems

Now that I have had this tab for a month. Its now starting to act up. Browser force closing, touch screen can be difficult to navigate (too sensitive) it will often open apps when swiping through screens, and overall performance is getting really slow. I have added a memory card to free up some memory but doesn't help. So I'm wondering what the community experience for us that has had the device for awhile.
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I really like my A100 overall. Three things that are starting to kill me about it are:
1: Battery life; I've attempted to remove all/some/certain apps, turn off syncing, set sync long, turn wifi/gps off, remove "bloat", turn screen brightness low etc.. For the last two weeks I've tried a lot of different methods to save battery. Still, last night I went to sleep with it at 60-70%(on my latest method to save battery) and woke up with it completely drained. Might need to exchange it I guess.
2: Viewing angles. Thought I could deal with it no problem. However, when I use it as an e-reader (or anytime is portrait) the viewing angles make it difficult to look at the screen for extended periods of time. I have to tilt the left side back more so I don't strain my eyes.
3: Live wallpapers; Many are unusable. I have 4 widgets total and only use 3 home screens. On many of the live wallpapers I use, the swiping of screens either is very laggy, or has a very obvious delay in the time I swipe to the time the screen actually moves.
Performance has started to get slightly worse, not too bad though. I have started to get force closes on some apps and the browser. May end up returning / selling this and get something else. Pity, I really like it other than the first two annoyances..I can live without live wallpaper.

Battery life is a sore point for me as I'm sure it is for everyone. The screen isn't great, but it's not bad enough to bother me much.
I haven't had any software problems fortunately, or at least not any that aren't common with the whole Honeycomb live beta that Google has been running all year. Hopefully ICS will fix a lot on the software side.
That being said, I'm coming from a Nook Color(with a Kindle Fire also considered). Since I paid in the same price range for this($189 on Black Friday) the trade offs as compared to the Nook/KF aren't too bad and at the end of the day I do like having a full tablet with out having to turn it into an ugly hack job(I'm especially looking at you Nook Color)
For $200, I'd say I got my moneys worth, and I might even say it's worth it for the $260 BestBuy is still selling them for, but anything higher, and I'd say it'd be too much to pay for this thing. It's not a high quality tablet, the screen and battery life seal the deal on that one, but it's definitely not the worst tablet I've seen out there. It's miles better than all the cheap Chinese crap tablets, but it doesn't to much to exceed the standards of the "upper crap" brands like Archos.

I'd say the thing is worth about $250.
For now, I think 7" is the sweet spot for tablets. (I previously owned a 10.1" Asus Transformer, which had great battery life and a beautiful screen but was awkwardly big/heavy).
And that said, the A100 is the best 7" tablet currently available (including the new 7" Galaxy Tab, simply because it lacks a microSD slot. I wouldn't trade my microSD slot for 3 more hours of battery life and an IPS screen, especially if the deal added $100+ bucks to the price.)
- I give the screen a B+ (I do wish it didn't solarize from the bottom viewing angle, but it's otherwise bright and clear.)
- Real world battery life, C+ (6 hours is fine enough in practice because I charge nightly, but it'd be awesome to have 12 hours--save me from bringing the charger on short trips, etc.)
- The industrial design I don't care at all about. I have it in the phenomenal Blurex leather case, so the lame blue plastic/silver swirl thing on the back is a non-issue to me.
Really, Acer made all the right compromises. My next tablet will probably be the Transformer 3 when it comes out in a year, hopefully it'll have 300 ppi screen and will dual boot Jelly Bean and Windows 8. If Windows developers embrace ARM , I think a Transformer 3 + laptop dock will mean I'll never buy another PC.
Until tablets can replace laptops (early 2013), a cheap but fullspeed 7" is a great device.

I've had mine for about 2 weeks and I have seen some slowdown when booting up and scrolling in the app drawer from time to time but most likely due to having installed so many apps. Battery has been better for me. I have my wifi to turn off when screen is off and also have a wifi toggle widget to turn off wifi when I'm playing a game or sometimes I just turn off wifi completely when I'm not using the tablet which only drains my battery about 1-2% per hour. Overall usage I would say I get the normal 5 hour mark. Viewing angle is not much an issue for me as I always look at the tablet straight on and its much sharper than my older Samsung tab 7. The only issue I still have is the screen not being responsive or some are saying too sensitive. There's a thread on this already. I'm hoping this will be fixed via software. This is my 3rd one however since my other 2 had wifi issues. I fixed one but it still had screen touch issue so I exchanged and all 3 was the same. So far I'm happy for the $248 I purchased it for. I bring this thing everywhere i go since it fits inside my jacket pocket.

Mainly battery life is the sore point for me.
The screen is more sensitive than my iDevices but nowhere as bad as my LG Evo phone was. A bit more sensitive than the Blackberry Playbook.
Disabling the capacitive home button was a must for me. I would hit it so many times when holding it in landscape view, it drove me crazy.
The screen, I agree with everyone else about the viewing angle from the bottom not being good.
Of course, there is always room for improvement. The hardware in the PB is great, especially the screen and battery life but the software is way lacking in comparison to Android.
At $250, it is a good tablet. I wouldn't pay more for it than that.
It's the perfect size and I take it almost everywhere.

DaveRichardson said:
And that said, the A100 is the best 7" tablet currently available (including the new 7" Galaxy Tab, simply because it lacks a microSD slot. I wouldn't trade my microSD slot for 3 more hours of battery life and an IPS screen, especially if the deal added $100+ bucks to the price.)
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The Galaxy Tab 7 Plus does have a microSD slot.
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I bought one.for my daughter and have been playing with it for 2 weeks now..Rooted it as soon as.I took it out of the box and installed a few root apps like ad free to keep her from clicking on ads.
For $250 I have to say I am pretty impressed. I have loaded it up with a bunch of educational apps as well as games. So far I have not had one force close on any app. Battery life is ok and WiFi is fastest device off same router as my dinc and t60.
I am not sure what you guys expect for 250, but if you can find any Android device that doesn't need.to be charged daily, then you aren't using it.
Just my opinion
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My thoughts exactly for the price it cant be beat. Very happy with the purchase. here is a screen cap of my a100 i never turn off wifi, this was with light usage. with regular use gaming/browsing for me I still get 8hrs.

For personal use the A100 is the perfect tablet, it easily fits in the inside pocket of a jacket, and despite complaints from others that the screen and battery life is not ideal, I think the screen is adequate and after 7 weeks I once had an empty battery. It is complete with Android 3.2, HDMI (works great as HTPC), 3.5mm audio connector, GPS, dual camera (not its strongest point), micro USB slave (missing USB host), Micro SD slot, and replacable battery. Upgrade to ICS is available next month. Moreover, it is much more affordable as similar products from its competitors.

Has anyone tried to use the tablet with it lying on any surface. Recently i discovered that with it on a bed or table lying flat the touch screen is practically unusable. Using a stylus for note taking is useless, it doesn't register every stroke and writing is broken up.
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qhinton said:
Has anyone tried to use the tablet with it lying on any surface. Recently i discovered that with it on a bed or table lying flat the touch screen is practically unusable. Using a stylus for note taking is useless, it doesn't register every stroke and writing is broken up.
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Yeah the touchscreen has some issues. If you lightly swipe the touchscreen on the browser it will zoom in I dunno why

@qhinton:
If you must use the A100 while it's lying on a table or a bed, try turning it upside-down first. There is no backlight on the bottom edge, only on the top edge. Viewing from above the top edge, or flipping the A100 upside down and viewing from below, is much better that way. Not perfect, but better.
Another remedy is to get an easel case, so you can prop the A100 at a comfortable viewing angle.

OpaPiloot said:
For personal use the A100 is the perfect tablet, it easily fits in the inside pocket of a jacket, and despite complaints from others that the screen and battery life is not ideal, I think the screen is adequate and after 7 weeks I once had an empty battery. It is complete with Android 3.2, HDMI (works great as HTPC), 3.5mm audio connector, GPS, dual camera (not its strongest point), micro USB slave (missing USB host), Micro SD slot, and replacable battery. Upgrade to ICS is available next month. Moreover, it is much more affordable as similar products from its competitors.
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It has a user replaceable battery?

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@qhinton:
If you must use the A100 while it's lying on a table or a bed, try turning it upside-down first. There is no backlight on the bottom edge, only on the top edge. Viewing from above the top edge, or flipping the A100 upside down and viewing from below, is much better that way. Not perfect, but better.
Another remedy is to get an easel case, so you can prop the A100 at a comfortable viewing angle.
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Thanks I found that trick out from using a Viewsonic GTab. What I was explaining is that the tablet needs to be grounded to work properly. So basically if your not holding it the tablet struggles with registering your gestures. Whem laying it on a bed or table the tablet touch screen would be very sporadic.
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qhinton said:
Thanks I found that trick out from using a Viewsonic GTab. What I was explaining is that the tablet needs to be grounded to work properly. So basically if your not holding it the tablet struggles with registering your gestures. Whem laying it on a bed or table the tablet touch screen would be very sporadic.
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If you have major sensitivity issues try my fix posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347123&page=6
This has mostly fixed the issue for me, still shows up every once in a while but after doing this fix there was a huge improvement for me.

WiFi keeps turning itself off every few minutes. checked all the settings and it still does it. none of my other Android devices do this, only the Tab 7"

after two months of use.
I'm very satisfied of this tab. No "problem" at all.
Battery life: is good if used well. Obviously could be better, but with a double core and a so large display is very good. It surprises me when i play HD games for long and i see almost no change in battery life.
Wifi: signal reception is good, no problem. Connection speed at my home is almost 1Mb/sec checked on tablet.
Display and touch: angle of sight is small for a tablet, but colors and luminosity is very good. Touch screen is very very sensible but i like it. With the screen saver the touch is perfect.
Performance: I'm agree with my colleagues about the live wallpaper. Sometimes they are too slow. The computing speed of this tab is very very good. Opening apps, photos and hd video is vey fast. It's definitely a fast tab
Camera: Is good enough. I've recently bought a Galaxy S 2 with a 8mp camera and I see the difference from the 5mpx of the A100 but is still capable of very high detailed photos.
Voip and VideoCalls: I use this two features a lot since I'm often away from home and both are very good. No lag at all. Video is clear and fluid, audio too. The microphone volume is low I think, but is not a problem if you can hold it closer to you.
Handling and Style: I can bring it inside a pocket and go wherever I want. Is not heavy, it doesn't need a separate bag to be kept with you. Is the perfect size in terms of mobility. The shape is cool and can be handled easily. Maybe the back of the cover would be better completely gray or black.

No problem apart from the fact that i cannot delete bloat cuz i dunno which system app will brick if i delete em, weight since i hold it in portrait mode often, FCs, lastly screen ratio. Prefer it wider and shorter.

jay_993 said:
No problem apart from the fact that i cannot delete bloat cuz i dunno which system app will brick if i delete em, weight since i hold it in portrait mode often, FCs, lastly screen ratio. Prefer it wider and shorter.
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If you mess up you should be able to just flash any of the update.zip in the rom thread to bring those files back. You will need to reroot if were already rooted.

Galaxy SIII Owners with Nexus 7's?

First off, I think this fits here better than the Nexus 7 thread, but if any mods disagree, feel free to move it.
Anyways, I've had my Galaxy SIII for about a month now and I love it. I came from an Atrix and everything about the SIII is great. But I (like everyone else) got pretty excited about the Nexus 7 release and now that my birthday is coming up, I'm trying to decide if I should get myself a Nexus 7 as well.
I'm really concerned it might just be redundant. After all, the SIII is super fast and has a big beautiful screen. Do I need 2 more inches of screen?
So any SIII owners who have Nexus 7's, do you find yourselves using one more than the other? And what do you prefer doing on your Nexus 7 over your SIII?
Thanks!
Also throwing a poll in, just in case people want to vote without actually replying

I haven't used my Nexus 7 as much as I thought I would ...so now it's in the marketplace. My S3 takes care of everything I need. I even watch netflix on it over the Nexus 7.
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I'll probably wait for the nexus 10.

2.2 inches more actually
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i have not been using my Nexus 7 as much. The only time I use it is when I run out of battery on my SG3. I hate the battery life on this thing...grrrrr it cost me $200 for a tablet I dont need

I personally use my N7 more than my S3 just to conserve my phone's battery. If I want to game or watch a video I'm more likely to do it on the Nexus.
I use TabletTalk via Bluetooth at work and take my Nexus + USB keyboard with me while my phone stays in my office if I get called to another area. I still use both but ultimately the Nexus saves my phone's battery for calls.
If something (like this post) is quicker because the phone is already in my hand of course I'll use the GS3
Also the biggest draw for me was having both allowed me to keep one device in a (reasonably) stable state while I went flashaholic on the other

Got a S3 & Nexus7 here, but the N7 isn't primarily for my use, so I can't make an accurate judgement.
In any case, the plan is to sell the Nexus 7 for a potential Nexus 10 in October or November, since 10" makes more sense for a tablet that stays at home mostly (and the NFC is rarely used). 4-5.5" == very portable; 7" == mehportable with a screen that's not that much bigger.
I might also upgrade my S3 to the Note2, but only if they're not using the more fragile & thin gorrilla glass2 that's in the S3. The Note2 is rumored to be the first device with samsung's flexible "unbreakable" display.

I use my N7 all the time at home. Yeah, it's only 2.2 inches, but trust me, it's night and day. If you got $200 to spare, I think it's worth it.

i using my Nexus 7 less, even when i had my GS2, but we used it a lot during a recent vacation trip to watch Neflix. I prefer to use it to watch MLB games with At Bat app than the phone. I also like it's bigger screen to read on facebook or news. The KEY thing to use the tablet, is to have it next to you all the time. If it is too far, you wont bother looking for it because you have the phone always with you and it does the job as well.
I wouldnt sell it, but i can see selling my wife's (who recently upgrade to an SG3 from an iphone and it is gonna get her N7 today) for her it would be redundant. Let's see.

I bought a nexus 7 but returned it a few days later.. the screen didn't seem a big enough jump from the sgs3 to be worth carrying two devices. And I still prefer to read on old kindle style screen.
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My nexus 7 saves a lot of battery life on my S3. I use my Nexus 7 to play games, read books/magazines and surf the web instead of my S3. Especially when at home. My Nexus 7 has become more of my toy of choice so I don't burn through the battery on my S3. I think its the perfect combo.

Like people say the battery on the N7 is insane, you can easily get 8 or more hours of screen time of hard usage. I use my N7 to read books, browse, Flip board, was amazing for Olympics streaming and other stuff when I'm at home or office. My phone is from when I'm outdoors.
Works perfectly and since they both run Android everything syncs up perfectly
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I have both the S III and N7, on the road obviously the S III at an office, home, coffee shop, etc. I use my N7 more, the N7 gets insane battery life, example on CM10 Trinity Kernel On-Demand/Noop 15-1500 I got 6 hrs of Idle time before my battery dropped from 100-99, had about an hr of screen time before it dropped from 99-98, with my N7 if I'm not driving I don't need to look at my phone, pair it with my S III on tablet talk and I can send and receive txts on my N7 and also pick and make calls with a bt headset from my N7...and if my N7 runs out of juice well I have a TF Prime in the bag, if my S III goes down I have a Nexus if all else fails I have my power bag to charge them all lol...

I love my nexus. Especially if you watch video or play games. May not be a big difference in screen size but its definitely enough. Like some others said if u have the money get it.
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bought it and returned it. just seemed redundant. but the $25 play store crredit and the books and transformers was well worth the time lol.

Running the same combo and am extremely happy. Have tablet talk set up on phone to automatically connect one I get home, and I pretty much use the nexus exclusively while I'm home. Use it for surfing, sudoku, even as my remote controller, it has even gotten me to read more haha on my third game of thrones book! I brought it on a road trip this last weekend and was surprised with how enjoyable watching tv on it was when tethered to my s3. I love this combo!
Coming from an 4s and a asus transformer I would never go back!
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My N7 is my gaming device and a browser. It games like a son of a gun. Even if the s3 will perform just as well I get two things.
1. Don't have to drain phone battery
2. Its more screen real estate for on screen buttons.
I had a long battle on if I should get a tablet and honestly I do not regret the N7 but that is me personally. You have to ask yourself if for what you do it suits your needs. For instance I commute to and from college a little over an hour each way. So for the trip I can watch movies or play games and when I get to school still have basically full battery on my phone for text/voice. An outlet is not always available and sometimes my days are long so that extra battery can really pay off for my needs. Additionally I am probably going to get a blue tooth keyboard and voila a very light weight notepad instead of my laptop. When you take the train every ounce counts. Just my 2¢
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I have both and the G-NOTE
tomaslxix said:
First off, I think this fits here better than the Nexus 7 thread, but if any mods disagree, feel free to move it.
Anyways, I've had my Galaxy SIII for about a month now and I love it. I came from an Atrix and everything about the SIII is great. But I (like everyone else) got pretty excited about the Nexus 7 release and now that my birthday is coming up, I'm trying to decide if I should get myself a Nexus 7 as well.
I'm really concerned it might just be redundant. After all, the SIII is super fast and has a big beautiful screen. Do I need 2 more inches of screen?
So any SIII owners who have Nexus 7's, do you find yourselves using one more than the other? And what do you prefer doing on your Nexus 7 over your SIII?
Thanks!
Also throwing a poll in, just in case people want to vote without actually replying
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I use them for different things. I love the S3 but reading book and long web pages sucks on a screen that small (I also carry the galaxy note and find it too small to read book on for long periods). Not having WAN on the N7 does force me to use the S3 or the Note to get news update. I find that the N7 is a very nice compliment to the the S3. You just end up using them for different things. Just my 2 cents
Erik

I have both the S3 and N7. I was hoping that I would use my N7 more often but given the largish screen size of the S3 and the convenience of always having it in my pocket, I usually just end up using my S3. If my smartphone only had a 3.5" or even 4.2" screen I could see more usage for the N7. But the S3's 4.8" really does give it enough screen real estate where I often find a lot of overlap in terms of usage models between the S3 and N7. Also, I'm increasingly finding the lack of HDMI or MHL on the N7 to be a bigger nuisance than I had originally thought.
So I now have a Lenovo S2110 10" tablet w/ keyboard dock on pre-order. I got a killer deal on it for $400 including the keyboard dock and it has the same dual-core krait as the Qualcomm phone! Once that arrives I'll just use the N7 as a baby monitor device for my newborn.

I have the N7 and the SGS3; the native bluetooth tethering is awesome and low on battery for both devices -- used when I'm away from wifi. My phone stays in my pocket or bag, when I'm on the bus, since I can tablet-text and interweb connect via bt. I use an app that auto-activates the bluetooth tethering service when the SGS3 boots. I don't ever have to touch the phone to tether with the N7, since it only needs the tablet side to connect.
Also, the screen size of the N7 is, at least for my purposes, far superior to a 10 inch screen, which is just awkward if I'm lying in bed reading. It is proper book-sized. Not iPad-ish posterboard awkward side-reading size.
Since I'm working on my dissertation for a doctorate in English lit (I know, snooze), I use Evernote and Drive/Docs to sync between all of my devices so that I can revise on the fly. The N7 is much better for significant revisions in Google Drive, especially since a slim bt keyboard lives in my school bag all the time.
But Grindr is creepy, with the thumbnails scaled up for the N7 screen size.

How is it so far?

Hi all, haven't got one yet and still have my n7 (2012). They're are sold out right now at my local store. My question is what the title says. How is it? I haven't got the chance to get one in my hands yet. Is it leaps and bounds better!? I've read reviews and check forums and am still unsure if I want one. Any opinions are appreciated.
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Just read some of the threads.
There are some issues with the screens right now on some devices. Still worth the risk as it is a huge upgrade to the 2012 Nexus 7. No more lag, unbelievable screen, lighter, and thinner. Definitely worth the money.

Well, I usually do not do reviews of mainstream devices, since that is well covered by the "big boys",
But I was secretly waiting for an opportunity to make some comments:
In short, it is an incredible tablet.
Much nicer to hold than any other tablet I've owned/tried. I really like how thin it is, and the texture of the back.
I handed it to my son, and he loaded one of these games where you control something using the accelerometers. He has a Nook Color (With CM7), so he has a similar device to compare it too. He immediately commented how nice it was to hold and play the game.
The screen is incredible too. Way more resolution than my old eyes need, but even with my glasses things look great.
Web pages look more Desktop-like than any other tablet, including 10 inchers. Page rendering is also desktop fast. (Actually faster than this 10+ year old AMD machine I am typing on now, even with lots of RAM, and Xubuntu 12.04, which I credit with prolonging it's life this long).
WiFi, Works great with solid connections, great speed and lots of (indicated) signal. (As compared to other devices).
An iDM5 combination bluetooth speaker, and keyboard paired over BT with no problem at all. I am also using an Apple magic mouse. All re-connect quickly too.
Works (as one would expect) seemlessly with my Chromecast.
Another big plus for me was Standard USB charging. Pretty much anything charges it with no problem.
Now the complaints:
Yes, it has stereo speakers, but they are not that loud or great sounding. Using the EQ in Google Music does not help. Attempting to add Bass only causes it to sound muffled.
I have a Huawei u9508 with 2 speakers on the back, near the bottom (close together). It gives me more volume, more bass, and more stereo effect (OK, that last one may just be a perception thing).
Take the stereo speakers out of your purchasing decision. As of right now, it effectively does not have any better audio than a (than some) single speaker tablet(s).
To be clear (pun) The sound is by no means bad, it's just disapointing considering all the Fraunhofer hype.
Lack of an SD slot almost made me not buy the Nexus. I really miss it. I have a lot of things that use those cards, and not being able to just slot them in the Nexus is a big hit.
I also wish Google would stop "Apple-izing" things. Android had USB Storage mode for most of it's life. I wish it still did. Yes, there are work-arounds, and perhaps it is "safer" not to have it, but it is a clear case of "Defective by Design", in my opinion.
I miss the standard Android (AOSP) Browser and Music Player. (See these forums for installing the AOSP browser, and recommendations for other audio players.)
I do like the fact that it is (except for the Google Stuff) bloat-ware free. It is a very clean, fast, and good-looking factory ROM (I'm an Android purist.)
Also, you know that the community will support the device for years to come, whether or not Google does.
I have not tried Qi charging or NFC.
Should you buy one?
Well, you should not buy any other 7 inch tablet over this one -- I think that is pretty clear.
It is just a question if you need a (another) 7 inch tablet. In my case, I really needed a new tablet. My Archos 80 G9 was (something I cannot describe here with out getting banned) on the day it was made, and I had dissasembled it many times to fix broken USB connections, etc. Lately it would reboot everytime I squeezed the case a bit too hard.
Alternatives I concidered:
Acer A700 -- Same True HD resolution on a 10" screen -- SD card slot -- Dolby Stereo Speakers -- NVIDIA Tegra 3.
Chinese iFive X2 -- Same True HD resolution on an 8.9" screen -- SD card slot -- Front facing stereo speakers -- USB charging.
Say what you want about Chinese tablets, but the iFive X2 was the only one that really met my requirements (desirements). If you believe the iFive website, and some of the reviews, it actually looks like the build quality is pretty good. I may still buy one.

Awesome, zero complaints. Don't let all the negative threads get you down, mine arrived flawless shipped from New York to Ontario, Canada.
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Linuxslate said:
In short, it is an incredible tablet.
Much nicer to hold than any other tablet I've owned/tried. I really like how thin it is, and the texture of the back.
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So true...
It was the first thing I noticed after opening the box and even after 1 week, I am still amazed by the weight, the texture and how fast everything is... Switching between apps is so fun now
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My God is it ever amazing. Such a huge upgrade over last gens model. It is a joy to do everything with this tablet. Feels and looks oh so premium as well. Unbelievable how it costs so little in comparison to other tablets. I don't want to type an extremely long review, but even if I did, words cannot express how happy I am with this tablet.
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Awesome.
I was convinced last year that the original nexus 7 was too small so I got the iPad mini which was great for 6+ months. After I downloaded iOS 7 I thought what a joke ios7 will be and in general for traveling the mini was a major pain(loading movies, documents etc for offline use).
So recently I replaced my mini with a note8 for 2 weeks traveling and thought this is a keeper...then the new nexus 7 came out and I picked it up with the plans to return it after some testing....WOW I ended up returning the note 8 and keeping the N7!
No regrets...love the form factor even with a few hiccups (sometimes screen will just pause for a second and rare crashes).
SO I am using my N7 so much I might sell my Samsung s4 and get something cheaper (I.e. nexus 4) since it just sits when at home.
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This is my first tablet ever. And the second android device. The first being HTC Desire, which after OC-ing didn't feel bad.
But I wanted something that could deliver superb performance without the whole process of rooting, unlocking and flashing. So I bought this one, and I can say that this one's the best I've used ever. I have had my hands on those iPads some of my friends have, but they don't sound all that convincing.
There have been no lags at all that I have been able to identify. But still, I'm planning on going through the fun of rooting unlocking and flashing process. Just because I'm a flashaholic.
Regarding the device itself, I have found that the display is more blue-oriented. It has a much colder display than my HTC Desire. But it does look good on it. The data transfer speeds are superb. No performance issues so far. Battery lasts about two days, since I don't actively use it, occasional wifi and browsing, but no more than that. I mainly read books on it, and have successfully devoured 5 books in two weeks (I'm an avid reader , never mind). Others have been facing Wifi issues, but not me. Mine seems adequate. I've got a 3mbps connection in my country, which is the fastest here
There is some dust on the upper left corner, but since there are no dead pixels, I haven't returned mine for the fear of getting a dead-pixels-infected one. I use the tablet without any external peripherals, apart from my custom made earphones, which give a good amount of clear sound with good levels of bass, even without any audio mod.
I don't use the stock things, no... That's right, I've never learned how to use those For music, I have PowerAmp, for movies, MXPlayer, for pictures, QuickPic, for internet, OperaMini, the legendary ES for file browsing, and upcoming root mode
So far, all these apps have been superb in performance at least compared to my HTC Desire.
I should probably be saluting Asus and Google, for this combined effort to hand us quadcore Snapdragon 1.5 GHz, HD display equipped, nice tablet for under 30k in my country.

Thanks for the in depth answers. Went and got one at office max Friday. Last one with too plus a 20% discount from my boys at drippler.. App. Haven't even opened it yet Lol waiting on my screen protector n case from amazon. Now what to do with the old one?
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[Q] Coming from a Xoom

I have an original Motorola Xoom and love it, but it is starting to get wonky (the charging plug is loose, it doesn't want to turn on sometimes, etc.). I use it primarily for web browsing and reading articles on Pulse. I tried a Samsung 7 Plus a couple years ago and hated it, graphics were awful and I couldn't make the transition from a 10 inch screen to 7 inch. I don't really play games on it, I may occasionally read on it (I have a Kindle Paperwhite). So, my question is whether the better resolution on the Nexus 7 will make up for the decreased size. It will be a LOT clearer than my Xoom but a smaller screen - how satisfying is web browsing on a 7 inch screen?

RhinoDoc said:
I have an original Motorola Xoom and love it, but it is starting to get wonky (the charging plug is loose, it doesn't want to turn on sometimes, etc.). I use it primarily for web browsing and reading articles on Pulse. I tried a Samsung 7 Plus a couple years ago and hated it, graphics were awful and I couldn't make the transition from a 10 inch screen to 7 inch. I don't really play games on it, I may occasionally read on it (I have a Kindle Paperwhite). So, my question is whether the better resolution on the Nexus 7 will make up for the decreased size. It will be a LOT clearer than my Xoom but a smaller screen - how satisfying is web browsing on a 7 inch screen?
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It was a difficult transition for me. Still doable though. You should go to Best Buy or Staples and give it a go though. You may hate it.
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It was a difficult transition for me. Still doable though. You should go to Best Buy or Staples and give it a go though. You may hate it.
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I went to Best Buy yesterday but the display was a demo, it only allowed you to do what the demo did. I couldn't use Chrome. I may try Staples, there is one on the way home. Thanks.

RhinoDoc said:
I went to Best Buy yesterday but the display was a demo, it only allowed you to do what the demo did. I couldn't use Chrome. I may try Staples, there is one on the way home. Thanks.
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Absolutely. If not, just make sure you can return it within a few days.
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Hm, I never could get the hang of using a 10" tablet myself (1280x800 Chinese tablet with good performance from a RK3066). It was just too large for using it while on the go (I either used my phone or a real 11.6" laptop) and it was too small for usage at home (I have a comfortable desk with a 27" 1440p monitor). Using the 7" at home is great because it is always on and I use it while on the pooper or in the kitchen cooking. I also use it on the go more than my phone because it is LTE enabled with its own SIM card and fits in my inner jacket pocket nicely. Browsing the web (anandtech and some random articles) and using apps is terrific. But I always thought that browsing the web on a 10" tablet was kinda wasted. Most websites aren't optimized for the 10" landscape view and portrait was awkward. So I would always wish to use the browser on one side and something else on the other side the few times I really used it.

RhinoDoc said:
how satisfying is web browsing on a 7 inch screen?
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The resolution is so good that when I'm reading the BBC News website (news.bbc.co.uk) I don't even bother zooming in. Even the small test is readable at the default zoom level.
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Browsing is pretty good I made the transition from the xoom. Plus chrome doesn't crash on this one
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Many pages are optimized for portable
Easy to read small on this tablet.
Like a book.
Best tablet ever.... Love it.

Thanks all! I bit the bullet and bought one this morning. I won't have a chance to play with it until I get home tonight. The Xoom charging plug is loose and disconnects half way through charging and I am tired of it. I did have a chance to try the browser at Staples and I found it easy to read. I got it at Best Buy and was told I have 15 days to bring it back if I decide I don't like it.

RhinoDoc said:
I won't have a chance to play with it until I get home tonight.
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Make sure to report back your view on it as I'm sure it'll help others coming from a similar device.

My first thoughts, after a couple days of ownership - I like the portability, lighter and easier to hold. I have the WiFi version, so I really only use it around the house. By the same token, the larger Xoom wasn't a huge hassle since I wasn't lugging it around with me. It is easy to read web pages as I am browsing, I do miss the bigger view of the page with the 10 inch tablet, though. Lighter means I can hold it longer without fatigue. I would have to say that so far I like it but not love it. It is growing on me though. I still prefer reading on my Kindle Paperwhite over either of the tablets, too. I'll check back in a few days.