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[Q] tablets

im looking for opinions, i have a G2, so say i wanted to get a tablet also, what would be the point in getting one if you have an anroid phone with HSPA+/4G ? and whats the best tablet as far as performance and feautures

Theres alot of new droid tabs hitting the market soon so i would wait for a dual core with ffc and a nice manageable size to it. Thats my .02 tho
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rickyiswhite said:
im looking for opinions, i have a G2, so say i wanted to get a tablet also, what would be the point in getting one if you have an anroid phone with HSPA+/4G ? and whats the best tablet as far as performance and feautures
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personally, i dont see any point on getting a tablet, because the smartphones now are
powerfull enough to do almost anything a tablet can do, and tablets arnt powerfull enough
to run, lets a say a full linux distro with gnome or kde (or windows 7) ,and they are not any more portable than a laptop really.especially the ones with large screens like ipad or xoom. and
i dont care how good the on screen keyboards are ,i still WANT a proper keyboard (thats why i got a desire z) you can also have a look at Lenovo thinkpads they are kind of like a laptop and
tablet merge togher and you will have proper device that can run any os you wish which also
comes with multitouch screen. but they are not cheap. so to sum up i think tablets are so underpower so locked down
and arnt any more portable than a laptop and you will end up with a java machine (android) or apple ios which is even worse ,instead of a proper OS. sorry about the long post guy.
tablets make me angry

Like the guy above, I wasn't sold on the idea of tablets until recently. It depends on what you use your smartphone and home computer for. But since having a baby recently, my wife and I have found ourselves at home more than before, and wanting to be able to do things like check email or lookup things on the internet without being stuck at a desk, or having a big laptop weighing you down while sitting on the couch. We found ourselves using our smartphones a lot, such as resting on the couch while the baby was sleeping. Which works just fine. But having a tablet gives you a much larger screen, which makes for more more pleasurable experience due to a larger screen to browse websites, watch video, etc. Its also makes the touch interface for many tasks much more usable. Using a tablet as an e-reader also makes much more sense than on a phone. Its closer to the experience of reading a "real" paper book, where you see a whole page, instead of just a fraction of one (forcing you to flip to the next screen really frequently).
Some people like to tote their tablets around everywhere. That isn't me, so far. I mostly use it at home. And when I'm at home, I use it more than either my smartphone or my desktop/laptop computers (although some people have been going this route). You probably would not find a tablet a suitable replacement for a desktop/laptop computer. As mentioned, they just aren't as powerful or versatile, and a more limited software selection. A tablet does what your smartphone does, just with a bigger screen. So if you find yourself using your smartphone and frequently wishing that you had a much larger screen, then a tablet might be fore you.
The tablet I have is the HTC Flyer, since I love the build quality of HTC's products. Its a 7" screen tablet, with Gingerbread (supposedly to be updated to HOneycomb "soon"). Not dual core, but its got a snappy 1.5 GHz single core Snapdragon. Its a great device, but HTC will also coming out with a 10" tablet later this year, so that one will be worth checking out, also. The ideal size for a tablet is a topic of much debate. The common tablet sizes now are 7" and 10", with the debate being primarily about having a larger screen versus the portability of a 7". Again, it mostly comes down to personal preference, and your intended usage.

The posters above me have very valid points. I too would like a tablet simply because, as stated above, I find myself not wanting to lug around my laptop. I'm not doing anything that warrants using a laptop like writing long emails, gaming, etc. I'm mostly sitting on the couch or lying in bed playing around on XDA or reading blogs or the like. I don't need this giant thing sitting on my lap heating my junk and lowering my sperm count! I love it, but I would like something else for this purpose. That being said I would wait for at least the holiday season or next year to see what's coming out. There are some good ones on the way, but I'd like to see them either come down in price or when they do come out, seeing the current ones come down in price.

Yeah everyone makes a good point here, if it a tablet had everything like sd card slot headphone jack etc plus a hardrive(or at least a port to connect an external hard drive) so you could say burn discs or download stuff that you couldn't on your phone and connect your phone to the tablet and transfer via usb. That'd be a nice tablet
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rickyiswhite said:
if it a tablet had everything like sd card slot headphone jack etc plus a hardrive(or at least a port to connect an external hard drive) so you could say burn discs
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If you mean a CD/DVD burner/reader, that's an optical drive, not a hard drive. Which are starting to become pretty irrelevant. With online distribution of games and movies, I hardly ever find myself using my optical drive.

oh **** hahah thats what I meant but I wasnt sure
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@heybobitsme ,redpoint73
You both have valid points ,but firstly not all laptops are giant, i have a 13" laptop
which is pretty light and i use it when in front of tv as well ,and it doesnt heat up if
i am doing the tasks that you do on your tablets.I take it with me everywhere and it has a very good battery life but at the same time, i play Crysis 2 on it when i am on the train. could i do that with a tablet?
however i do get your point. what i dont like is some poeple keep saying
tablets are the way forward and you dont need a pc anymore. lets face it
none of the mobile OSs around are good . i use android on my phone because the only other
options are win7 or ios, well at least android is opensource (usually).
But yeah they are just giant phones.

I don't see how they are useful or innovative at all, but that is largely dependent upon your needs as a user, and I do realize that there are situations where a tablet might come in more handy than a phone or laptop... I just don't think those few situations warrant toting around another $500+ device.
I have a company-provided iPad, my G2, a 15" laptop and a desktop... the iPad sees use maybe once every month. there are VERY few instances, for me, where a tablet has a specific advantage over one of my other devices that warrants busting it out... for instance:
-if I'm working on my car, it's nice to have the iPad laying around with a shop manual loaded... can't do that on my G2 because it's too small and I have to scroll too often. could do it on the laptop, but the touchscreen on the iPad is pretty slick for swiping through pages and whatnot.
-it's decent for taking notes in meetings/at school IF you have an external keyboard. I still don't think touchscreens are viable replacements for physical keyboards at this point if you're going to be typing a lot. even still, I prefer using my laptop for this.
and, on a side note, completely unrelated to the function of a tablet... how much of a tool do you look like walking around with a 10" glorified smartphone? I just think it's a silly fad that will die out. I mean, come on, I don't even have a usb port on my iPad... what good does that do me?
for me to seriously consider purchasing a tablet, they would need:
-sd card reader
-full-size usb ports (at least 2); usb host [of course]
-better printing capability (I know there have been some strides made here, but it's still not seamless enough for it to be useful in a professional setting)
-a few other things would be nice, but the above are most important to me
also, a "sliding" tablet with a physical keyboard built in would be killer.

Yeah I hate when htc and such puts out really good phones with no physical keyboard....
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bahmanxda said:
@heybobitsme ,redpoint73
You both have valid points ,but firstly not all laptops are giant, i have a 13" laptop
which is pretty light and i use it when in front of tv as well ,and it doesnt heat up if
i am doing the tasks that you do on your tablets.I take it with me everywhere and it has a very good battery life but at the same time, i play Crysis 2 on it when i am on the train. could i do that with a tablet?
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Sure, not all laptops are giant, but they are still much bigger and heavier than tablets, especially 7" tablets. I can be laying in bed, or on the couch, and have my Flyer sitting on my chest, reading an e-book, web browsing, or whatever. But of course, that situation, if it even applies to you, may not be reason enough to buy an additional electronic device.
I don't look at the tablet as being a replacement for a desktop or laptop computer, but as an additional device. I love me some PC gaming, and I do that on my desktop PC. I have a work provided laptop also. All these different computer devices get used for different things.
As I mentioned before, it all depends on your personal preference, lifestyle, and how you use your devices. In your case, if you have a smartphone, and a smaller laptop, I can easily see how those satisfy all the situations you encounter in your life. But for those looking for a device to fill the gaps, a tablet can be just that.

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Sure, not all laptops are giant, but they are still much bigger and heavier than tablets, especially 7" tablets. I can be laying in bed, or on the couch, and have my Flyer sitting on my chest, reading an e-book, web browsing, or whatever. But of course, that situation, if it even applies to you, may not be reason enough to buy an additional electronic device.
I don't look at the tablet as being a replacement for a desktop or laptop computer, but as an additional device. I love me some PC gaming, and I do that on my desktop PC. I have a work provided laptop also. All these different computer devices get used for different things.
As I mentioned before, it all depends on your personal preference, lifestyle, and how you use your devices. In your case, if you have a smartphone, and a smaller laptop, I can easily see how those satisfy all the situations you encounter in your life. But for those looking for a device to fill the gaps, a tablet can be just that.
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You are absolutely right, using the tablet for the things you said make sense .
but in my case it would just make me mad .because i have this habit that i always have
10-15 applications and lots of tabs open in different work spaces, even when i am not doing anything special.
and the other thing is now all this new tablets are coming out with dual-core and more rams and everyone going crazy over them ,the problem is they dont bring new functionalities because the software on them are basically the same ,they just do the same thing a little
faster and smoother. the only points that i see in tables now are some of the things the things you mentioned and all them can be done on a cheap $100 tablet ,so now what is the point of very expensive tablets with dual-core?, i still wont be able to multi task properly with android,ios,etc (HPs web os looked a bit better though) id rather use the $500-600 on upgrading my laptop or desktop.

Yeah, I can see how a tablet is probably not for you. Desktop or laptop PCs will not be replaced by tablets anytime soon. You simply can't use a tablet to do things like composing long emails or other documents, playing higher powered games, and utilizing complex software (like in my case, AutoCAD). Basically, tablets are good for web browsing and consuming media via a touch interface, and using simple apps. And that's really about it.

Iconia a100 vs Galazy Tab 7 plus

Hi all, I'm trying to make a decision on the iconia vs galaxy 7 plus. I've read and researched too much and now am totally confused.
Can anybody who has an opinion chime in on what the extra $200 bucks get me on the 7 plus? And why u went with the Iconia?
I'm willing to root (have a rooted samsung charge) to get any extras on the iconia I need. I tether with both barnacle and wi-fi tether.
Main uses are e-reader, amazon prime viewing, word press blog, office docs and excel editing, web surfing. I'm not terribly picky about screen quality but I do appreciate the AMOLED on my Charge.
What do you think? Your thoughts are appreciated!
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I have never used the Galaxy, so I can't compare. But I use my A100 for ereading, web surfing etc and I am happy with it.

Keep in mind that until just about recently, the Iconia A100 was priced at 329 and the 7 Plus is 399 so the difference hasn't been that far off.
The Tab gives you double the battery life, much slimmer device, much better screen (viewing angles and the like) and faster processor. Play with both in person.
If the Iconia at least was pushing 6hrs of battery by default, I personally would have bought one seeing as I just started getting into ebooks of late. I also do think that 399 for the Tab 7.0 plus is also on the high end, but it's a sleek device.
If you can get the Iconia for 200 bucks less that the Tab, that's not a bad deal. Just have to deal with it's puny battery.
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TwinsMom said:
Hi all, I'm trying to make a decision on the iconia vs galaxy 7 plus. I've read and researched too much and now am totally confused.
Can anybody who has an opinion chime in on what the extra $200 bucks get me on the 7 plus? And why u went with the Iconia?
I'm willing to root (have a rooted samsung charge) to get any extras on the iconia I need. I tether with both barnacle and wi-fi tether.
Main uses are e-reader, amazon prime viewing, word press blog, office docs and excel editing, web surfing. I'm not terribly picky about screen quality but I do appreciate the AMOLED on my Charge.
What do you think? Your thoughts are appreciated!
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I had the Samsung 7.0 Plus for a month, but I'm a silver member at Best Buy so I get 45 days . What's good is everything works GPS, mic, ect. Screen and battery is great too.
What changed my mind on the Sammy. No ports, peel application is useless you have to be in front of every device and it's slow, there are some glitches with the HC experience that I haven't experienced with any of my other tabs (mainly when selecting text), when enlarging text on websites it only scales to the width screen size any bigger you have to scroll back and forth to read which is annoying (the Acer will make text large and fit it to screen which makes reading websites easy), can't change the browser to "desktop" in menu only "tablet" view, touchwiz is slick but unnecessary which brings me to my last point Samsung takes forever to update the operating system. They have so many devices. Acer has only a few tablets and ghastly said ICS in January which really means end of February.
Overall you can't go wrong with either. What I like about the Acer is hooking it up to my TVs streaming movies via network or Netflix "HDMI", GPS, quick charge takes a hour. HC is smooth, indicator lights and heptic feedback, camera flash.
FYI I would of kept the Sammy but personally I deal with it not scaling print to fit screen, it just makes reading easier on small screen. So $422 to get a better screen and battery I didn't think it was worth it. Especially when something new and better will be out next year. I could deal with my $200 Acer.
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Keep in mind that until just about recently, the Iconia A100 was priced at 329 and the 7 Plus is 399 so the difference hasn't been that far off.
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Good point, hadn't thought about it like that.
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qhinton said:
I had the Samsung 7.0 Plus for a month, but I'm a silver member at Best Buy so I get 45 days . What's good is everything works GPS, mic, ect. Screen and battery is great too.
What changed my mind on the Sammy. No ports, peel application is useless you have to be in front of every device and it's slow, there are some glitches with the HC experience that I haven't experienced with any of my other tabs (mainly when selecting text), when enlarging text on websites it only scales to the width screen size any bigger you have to scroll back and forth to read which is annoying (the Acer will make text large and fit it to screen which makes reading websites easy), can't change the browser to "desktop" in menu only "tablet" view, touchwiz is slick but unnecessary which brings me to my last point Samsung takes forever to update the operating system. They have so many devices. Acer has only a few tablets and ghastly said ICS in January which really means end of February.
Overall you can't go wrong with either. What I like about the Acer is hooking it up to my TVs streaming movies via network or Netflix "HDMI", GPS, quick charge takes a hour. HC is smooth, indicator lights and heptic feedback, camera flash.
FYI I would of kept the Sammy but personally I deal with it not scaling print to fit screen, it just makes reading easier on small screen. So $422 to get a better screen and battery I didn't think it was worth it. Especially when something new and better will be out next year. I could deal with my $200 Acer.
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great feedback! thanks so much to you and LordLugard.....this is just exactly the kind of feedback I needed to help make my decision.
Iconia a100 it is!
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No doubt I change tablets like clothes. I actually went back to BBY to take another look at the Sammy because I'm pissed with the mic quality of the Acer. Still couldn't justify it. HC is HC.
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The main thing with the Samsung is the screen an battery life. The screen is something I can live with, but if I were paying full price for the A100(I got mine for $189), I would probably consider the Samsung just for the better battery and consider the screen upgrade a bonus.
The battery on the Iconia is almost laughably bad, but for under $200 I'm not too unhappy with it and I'm not sure I'd pay $300 for it. If the $250 Best Buy price stick around for a while, it would be a bit more tempting. I'd say only get the Iconia if you can get it for under $250 or less. It's a decent enough tablet for that price, but the screen and battery have no place in a tablet that costs over $300.

Add weak wifi to the list of flaws on the a100. I got mine for $248 at Frys and I actually liked it at first. The screen isn't so bad but battery was pretty horrible. My phone lasts longer. Possibly battery drain was caused by it trying to acquire wifi signal half the time. Weak wifi make using it kinda pointless if you surf a lot. Half the time it doesn't connect so its like the old day where you have to move here or stand here to get even just 1 signal bar. My phone has full wifi signal and my other 2 tablets has atleast 2 bars.
The samsung 7 plus was my original choice since I have the old 7 inch tab but I couldn't pass up the $248 price for the a100. All the extra ports I don't think is really that necessary. I do use hdmi out on my phone but very rarely and the output is isn't that great when its on your tv. I really never had to worry about it with my older 7 inch sammy tab. I do like the allshare feature a lot and it works best on my samsung tv. So that's another thing to consider if you have a samsung TV. I've tried using 3rd party apps but they're not so great.
So if can get it cheap and can deal with the wifi then you may be happy with the a100. Otherwise I would go with the Sammy.

as I pointed out in your other thread, the WiFi issue may be something with your network. You also might have a defective unit, because the WiFi is actually quite powerful. In my previous tablet, I would sit at my desk with 5-10% connection, but I am normally at about 75-80% with this tablet.

The Samsung tab 7 plus is way ahead of the a100. The Samsung have a far better viewing angle and battery life. It has the ability to decode almost all hd videos you throw at it unlike the a100.
The negative points about the Samsung is that they use only mtp to transfer data.
Longer charging times.
No micro usb port. Uses proprietary cable.
I would get the a100 if the price difference between them is set least $150.

So I went to bestbuy today to check out their tablets and I was playing with the samsung 7. It's thinner and lighter obviously but man was it choppy. I didn't check but i think its still at version 3.1. Scrolling through home pages and apps list were choppy. And also hitting the + icon to bring up widget etc was choppy. I felt like I was back to single core. Hopefully this will all go away with 3.2.1.
I figured this wouldnt be the case since its smaller. The 10.1 version was the same.

whatsitsnamenow said:
The Samsung tab 7 plus is way ahead of the a100. The Samsung have a far better viewing angle and battery life. It has the ability to decode almost all hd videos you throw at it unlike the a100.
The negative points about the Samsung is that they use only mtp to transfer data.
Longer charging times.
No micro usb port. Uses proprietary cable.
I would get the a100 if the price difference between them is set least $150.
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There is an adapter that plugs into the 7+ charge port turning it into a USB host.
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So I went to bestbuy today to check out their tablets and I was playing with the samsung 7. It's thinner and lighter obviously but man was it choppy. I didn't check but i think its still at version 3.1. Scrolling through home pages and apps list were choppy. And also hitting the + icon to bring up widget etc was choppy. I felt like I was back to single core. Hopefully this will all go away with 3.2.1.
I figured this wouldnt be the case since its smaller. The 10.1 version was the same.
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Keep in mind what you were using was a display model that quite probably suffered through kids not really practicing good computer habits? lol I have never once (yet) found mine to be anything but silky smooth and snappy as all get out. This processor beats the Tegra2 hands down!

I bought a Samsung 7 plus on the day before Thanksgiving and I was surprised to get a acer a100 on black Friday for $189. The Samsung is just a hair faster in browsing but I feel that something is really holding it back; it feels bloated. I like the screen and the battery is better but my one major disappointment is the remote software that comes with it; just useless because it does not have my projector listed
The Samsung 7 plus is not worth $400 but the Acer A100 is worth $189. Actually it's the best tablet for $189. So here are my 7 inch tablet rankings.
1. Acer A100 at $189 (A smaller A500 but display and battery are the weak spots). If $250 it drops to 2nd place.)
2. Kindle Fire at $200 (Very barebones but feels very good and display is nice. 512mb is the major weak spot)
3. HTC Flyer at $300 (Like the speed and build material's. Needs to be cheaper.)
4. Samsung 7 plus at $399 (Most expensive and feels bloated)
5. Nook color used (Tab is showing it age with a 800mhz single core. Must hack to show potential.)
6. Nook tablet at $250 (Never used this one)
7. Blackberry playbook at $200 (Never used this one)

We don't have the options that others seem to. The Samsung 7 plus isn't available here yet, and I'm sure it would be easily over $400. The cheapest I could find the Acer Iconia A100 in canada is $249 and it sold out very quickly. To compare, the 16GB Iconia is only $20 more in the US compared to the 8GB but it is $100 more in Canada.
We can't get the Kindle Fire, and the Nook is not available for Canada either.
We can get the kobo vox but it's an e-reader, not a full tablet.
So in other words, we get the shaft when it comes to 7" tablet selection.

It depend on how much money u have and wanna spend. Because they have different price ^^ A100 is only 300$, but tab is 430$.
If u dont care about money, i will suggest u buy Tab+
Because:
-Better battery life
-Better screen
-More lighter than A100, more slimmer
-CPU is just higher little bit, not important so far because tegra2 in A100 still good as far right now
And 1 more important thing: Tab+ will get ICS4.0 soon, but A100 maybe not
For me, my A100 is fine ritenow.
PS: any1 have problems when using Manga Watcher??? My A100 could run it, but after I hard reset, and reinstall the app, it not working anymore, foreclose. Same problem with 1 Vietnamese app to watching television online dont know why, maybe i will hard reset it 1 more time

thinhletien said:
It depend on how much money u have and wanna spend. Because they have different price ^^ A100 is only 300$, but tab is 430$.
If u dont care about money, i will suggest u buy Tab+
Because:
-Better battery life
-Better screen
-More lighter than A100, more slimmer
-CPU is just higher little bit, not important so far because tegra2 in A100 still good as far right now
And 1 more important thing: Tab+ will get ICS4.0 soon, but A100 maybe not
For me, my A100 is fine ritenow.
PS: any1 have problems when using Manga Watcher??? My A100 could run it, but after I hard reset, and reinstall the app, it not working anymore, foreclose. Same problem with 1 Vietnamese app to watching television online dont know why, maybe i will hard reset it 1 more time
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If u know anything about Samsung, the Acer will get ICS first. Plus its already been docunented.
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If u know anything about Samsung, the Acer will get ICS first. Plus its already been docunented.
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I completely agree with this statement! It's my experience that the Samsung ICS update will come MUCH later than sooner. Last month, I finally got the Gingerbread update on my Epic 4G (Samsung's "flagship" phone from a year ago).

yeah samsung lags on their updates, i have the fascinate and it only got one update on it. haahaaaha.
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GTab 7+
Agree the A100 is a fine tab despite rather serious shortcomings (had mine about 2 weeks before returning to BB) but now that the GTab 7+ has gotten root and CWM (kudos to gary9d) the options are far and away greater than presently available the A100. Achieving root is a good thing but without a dependable method of achieving Recovery when (and not if) something goes awry one runs the risk of a very expensive brick. Perhaps it just me but I've yet to feel good about many of the vendor supplied "recovery" protocols and have always relied on CWM.

Galaxy SIII Owners with Nexus 7's?

First off, I think this fits here better than the Nexus 7 thread, but if any mods disagree, feel free to move it.
Anyways, I've had my Galaxy SIII for about a month now and I love it. I came from an Atrix and everything about the SIII is great. But I (like everyone else) got pretty excited about the Nexus 7 release and now that my birthday is coming up, I'm trying to decide if I should get myself a Nexus 7 as well.
I'm really concerned it might just be redundant. After all, the SIII is super fast and has a big beautiful screen. Do I need 2 more inches of screen?
So any SIII owners who have Nexus 7's, do you find yourselves using one more than the other? And what do you prefer doing on your Nexus 7 over your SIII?
Thanks!
Also throwing a poll in, just in case people want to vote without actually replying

I haven't used my Nexus 7 as much as I thought I would ...so now it's in the marketplace. My S3 takes care of everything I need. I even watch netflix on it over the Nexus 7.
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I'll probably wait for the nexus 10.

2.2 inches more actually
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i have not been using my Nexus 7 as much. The only time I use it is when I run out of battery on my SG3. I hate the battery life on this thing...grrrrr it cost me $200 for a tablet I dont need

I personally use my N7 more than my S3 just to conserve my phone's battery. If I want to game or watch a video I'm more likely to do it on the Nexus.
I use TabletTalk via Bluetooth at work and take my Nexus + USB keyboard with me while my phone stays in my office if I get called to another area. I still use both but ultimately the Nexus saves my phone's battery for calls.
If something (like this post) is quicker because the phone is already in my hand of course I'll use the GS3
Also the biggest draw for me was having both allowed me to keep one device in a (reasonably) stable state while I went flashaholic on the other

Got a S3 & Nexus7 here, but the N7 isn't primarily for my use, so I can't make an accurate judgement.
In any case, the plan is to sell the Nexus 7 for a potential Nexus 10 in October or November, since 10" makes more sense for a tablet that stays at home mostly (and the NFC is rarely used). 4-5.5" == very portable; 7" == mehportable with a screen that's not that much bigger.
I might also upgrade my S3 to the Note2, but only if they're not using the more fragile & thin gorrilla glass2 that's in the S3. The Note2 is rumored to be the first device with samsung's flexible "unbreakable" display.

I use my N7 all the time at home. Yeah, it's only 2.2 inches, but trust me, it's night and day. If you got $200 to spare, I think it's worth it.

i using my Nexus 7 less, even when i had my GS2, but we used it a lot during a recent vacation trip to watch Neflix. I prefer to use it to watch MLB games with At Bat app than the phone. I also like it's bigger screen to read on facebook or news. The KEY thing to use the tablet, is to have it next to you all the time. If it is too far, you wont bother looking for it because you have the phone always with you and it does the job as well.
I wouldnt sell it, but i can see selling my wife's (who recently upgrade to an SG3 from an iphone and it is gonna get her N7 today) for her it would be redundant. Let's see.

I bought a nexus 7 but returned it a few days later.. the screen didn't seem a big enough jump from the sgs3 to be worth carrying two devices. And I still prefer to read on old kindle style screen.
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My nexus 7 saves a lot of battery life on my S3. I use my Nexus 7 to play games, read books/magazines and surf the web instead of my S3. Especially when at home. My Nexus 7 has become more of my toy of choice so I don't burn through the battery on my S3. I think its the perfect combo.

Like people say the battery on the N7 is insane, you can easily get 8 or more hours of screen time of hard usage. I use my N7 to read books, browse, Flip board, was amazing for Olympics streaming and other stuff when I'm at home or office. My phone is from when I'm outdoors.
Works perfectly and since they both run Android everything syncs up perfectly
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I have both the S III and N7, on the road obviously the S III at an office, home, coffee shop, etc. I use my N7 more, the N7 gets insane battery life, example on CM10 Trinity Kernel On-Demand/Noop 15-1500 I got 6 hrs of Idle time before my battery dropped from 100-99, had about an hr of screen time before it dropped from 99-98, with my N7 if I'm not driving I don't need to look at my phone, pair it with my S III on tablet talk and I can send and receive txts on my N7 and also pick and make calls with a bt headset from my N7...and if my N7 runs out of juice well I have a TF Prime in the bag, if my S III goes down I have a Nexus if all else fails I have my power bag to charge them all lol...

I love my nexus. Especially if you watch video or play games. May not be a big difference in screen size but its definitely enough. Like some others said if u have the money get it.
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bought it and returned it. just seemed redundant. but the $25 play store crredit and the books and transformers was well worth the time lol.

Running the same combo and am extremely happy. Have tablet talk set up on phone to automatically connect one I get home, and I pretty much use the nexus exclusively while I'm home. Use it for surfing, sudoku, even as my remote controller, it has even gotten me to read more haha on my third game of thrones book! I brought it on a road trip this last weekend and was surprised with how enjoyable watching tv on it was when tethered to my s3. I love this combo!
Coming from an 4s and a asus transformer I would never go back!
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My N7 is my gaming device and a browser. It games like a son of a gun. Even if the s3 will perform just as well I get two things.
1. Don't have to drain phone battery
2. Its more screen real estate for on screen buttons.
I had a long battle on if I should get a tablet and honestly I do not regret the N7 but that is me personally. You have to ask yourself if for what you do it suits your needs. For instance I commute to and from college a little over an hour each way. So for the trip I can watch movies or play games and when I get to school still have basically full battery on my phone for text/voice. An outlet is not always available and sometimes my days are long so that extra battery can really pay off for my needs. Additionally I am probably going to get a blue tooth keyboard and voila a very light weight notepad instead of my laptop. When you take the train every ounce counts. Just my 2¢
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I have both and the G-NOTE
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First off, I think this fits here better than the Nexus 7 thread, but if any mods disagree, feel free to move it.
Anyways, I've had my Galaxy SIII for about a month now and I love it. I came from an Atrix and everything about the SIII is great. But I (like everyone else) got pretty excited about the Nexus 7 release and now that my birthday is coming up, I'm trying to decide if I should get myself a Nexus 7 as well.
I'm really concerned it might just be redundant. After all, the SIII is super fast and has a big beautiful screen. Do I need 2 more inches of screen?
So any SIII owners who have Nexus 7's, do you find yourselves using one more than the other? And what do you prefer doing on your Nexus 7 over your SIII?
Thanks!
Also throwing a poll in, just in case people want to vote without actually replying
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I use them for different things. I love the S3 but reading book and long web pages sucks on a screen that small (I also carry the galaxy note and find it too small to read book on for long periods). Not having WAN on the N7 does force me to use the S3 or the Note to get news update. I find that the N7 is a very nice compliment to the the S3. You just end up using them for different things. Just my 2 cents
Erik

I have both the S3 and N7. I was hoping that I would use my N7 more often but given the largish screen size of the S3 and the convenience of always having it in my pocket, I usually just end up using my S3. If my smartphone only had a 3.5" or even 4.2" screen I could see more usage for the N7. But the S3's 4.8" really does give it enough screen real estate where I often find a lot of overlap in terms of usage models between the S3 and N7. Also, I'm increasingly finding the lack of HDMI or MHL on the N7 to be a bigger nuisance than I had originally thought.
So I now have a Lenovo S2110 10" tablet w/ keyboard dock on pre-order. I got a killer deal on it for $400 including the keyboard dock and it has the same dual-core krait as the Qualcomm phone! Once that arrives I'll just use the N7 as a baby monitor device for my newborn.

I have the N7 and the SGS3; the native bluetooth tethering is awesome and low on battery for both devices -- used when I'm away from wifi. My phone stays in my pocket or bag, when I'm on the bus, since I can tablet-text and interweb connect via bt. I use an app that auto-activates the bluetooth tethering service when the SGS3 boots. I don't ever have to touch the phone to tether with the N7, since it only needs the tablet side to connect.
Also, the screen size of the N7 is, at least for my purposes, far superior to a 10 inch screen, which is just awkward if I'm lying in bed reading. It is proper book-sized. Not iPad-ish posterboard awkward side-reading size.
Since I'm working on my dissertation for a doctorate in English lit (I know, snooze), I use Evernote and Drive/Docs to sync between all of my devices so that I can revise on the fly. The N7 is much better for significant revisions in Google Drive, especially since a slim bt keyboard lives in my school bag all the time.
But Grindr is creepy, with the thumbnails scaled up for the N7 screen size.

How is it so far?

Hi all, haven't got one yet and still have my n7 (2012). They're are sold out right now at my local store. My question is what the title says. How is it? I haven't got the chance to get one in my hands yet. Is it leaps and bounds better!? I've read reviews and check forums and am still unsure if I want one. Any opinions are appreciated.
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Just read some of the threads.
There are some issues with the screens right now on some devices. Still worth the risk as it is a huge upgrade to the 2012 Nexus 7. No more lag, unbelievable screen, lighter, and thinner. Definitely worth the money.

Well, I usually do not do reviews of mainstream devices, since that is well covered by the "big boys",
But I was secretly waiting for an opportunity to make some comments:
In short, it is an incredible tablet.
Much nicer to hold than any other tablet I've owned/tried. I really like how thin it is, and the texture of the back.
I handed it to my son, and he loaded one of these games where you control something using the accelerometers. He has a Nook Color (With CM7), so he has a similar device to compare it too. He immediately commented how nice it was to hold and play the game.
The screen is incredible too. Way more resolution than my old eyes need, but even with my glasses things look great.
Web pages look more Desktop-like than any other tablet, including 10 inchers. Page rendering is also desktop fast. (Actually faster than this 10+ year old AMD machine I am typing on now, even with lots of RAM, and Xubuntu 12.04, which I credit with prolonging it's life this long).
WiFi, Works great with solid connections, great speed and lots of (indicated) signal. (As compared to other devices).
An iDM5 combination bluetooth speaker, and keyboard paired over BT with no problem at all. I am also using an Apple magic mouse. All re-connect quickly too.
Works (as one would expect) seemlessly with my Chromecast.
Another big plus for me was Standard USB charging. Pretty much anything charges it with no problem.
Now the complaints:
Yes, it has stereo speakers, but they are not that loud or great sounding. Using the EQ in Google Music does not help. Attempting to add Bass only causes it to sound muffled.
I have a Huawei u9508 with 2 speakers on the back, near the bottom (close together). It gives me more volume, more bass, and more stereo effect (OK, that last one may just be a perception thing).
Take the stereo speakers out of your purchasing decision. As of right now, it effectively does not have any better audio than a (than some) single speaker tablet(s).
To be clear (pun) The sound is by no means bad, it's just disapointing considering all the Fraunhofer hype.
Lack of an SD slot almost made me not buy the Nexus. I really miss it. I have a lot of things that use those cards, and not being able to just slot them in the Nexus is a big hit.
I also wish Google would stop "Apple-izing" things. Android had USB Storage mode for most of it's life. I wish it still did. Yes, there are work-arounds, and perhaps it is "safer" not to have it, but it is a clear case of "Defective by Design", in my opinion.
I miss the standard Android (AOSP) Browser and Music Player. (See these forums for installing the AOSP browser, and recommendations for other audio players.)
I do like the fact that it is (except for the Google Stuff) bloat-ware free. It is a very clean, fast, and good-looking factory ROM (I'm an Android purist.)
Also, you know that the community will support the device for years to come, whether or not Google does.
I have not tried Qi charging or NFC.
Should you buy one?
Well, you should not buy any other 7 inch tablet over this one -- I think that is pretty clear.
It is just a question if you need a (another) 7 inch tablet. In my case, I really needed a new tablet. My Archos 80 G9 was (something I cannot describe here with out getting banned) on the day it was made, and I had dissasembled it many times to fix broken USB connections, etc. Lately it would reboot everytime I squeezed the case a bit too hard.
Alternatives I concidered:
Acer A700 -- Same True HD resolution on a 10" screen -- SD card slot -- Dolby Stereo Speakers -- NVIDIA Tegra 3.
Chinese iFive X2 -- Same True HD resolution on an 8.9" screen -- SD card slot -- Front facing stereo speakers -- USB charging.
Say what you want about Chinese tablets, but the iFive X2 was the only one that really met my requirements (desirements). If you believe the iFive website, and some of the reviews, it actually looks like the build quality is pretty good. I may still buy one.

Awesome, zero complaints. Don't let all the negative threads get you down, mine arrived flawless shipped from New York to Ontario, Canada.
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In short, it is an incredible tablet.
Much nicer to hold than any other tablet I've owned/tried. I really like how thin it is, and the texture of the back.
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So true...
It was the first thing I noticed after opening the box and even after 1 week, I am still amazed by the weight, the texture and how fast everything is... Switching between apps is so fun now
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My God is it ever amazing. Such a huge upgrade over last gens model. It is a joy to do everything with this tablet. Feels and looks oh so premium as well. Unbelievable how it costs so little in comparison to other tablets. I don't want to type an extremely long review, but even if I did, words cannot express how happy I am with this tablet.
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Awesome.
I was convinced last year that the original nexus 7 was too small so I got the iPad mini which was great for 6+ months. After I downloaded iOS 7 I thought what a joke ios7 will be and in general for traveling the mini was a major pain(loading movies, documents etc for offline use).
So recently I replaced my mini with a note8 for 2 weeks traveling and thought this is a keeper...then the new nexus 7 came out and I picked it up with the plans to return it after some testing....WOW I ended up returning the note 8 and keeping the N7!
No regrets...love the form factor even with a few hiccups (sometimes screen will just pause for a second and rare crashes).
SO I am using my N7 so much I might sell my Samsung s4 and get something cheaper (I.e. nexus 4) since it just sits when at home.
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This is my first tablet ever. And the second android device. The first being HTC Desire, which after OC-ing didn't feel bad.
But I wanted something that could deliver superb performance without the whole process of rooting, unlocking and flashing. So I bought this one, and I can say that this one's the best I've used ever. I have had my hands on those iPads some of my friends have, but they don't sound all that convincing.
There have been no lags at all that I have been able to identify. But still, I'm planning on going through the fun of rooting unlocking and flashing process. Just because I'm a flashaholic.
Regarding the device itself, I have found that the display is more blue-oriented. It has a much colder display than my HTC Desire. But it does look good on it. The data transfer speeds are superb. No performance issues so far. Battery lasts about two days, since I don't actively use it, occasional wifi and browsing, but no more than that. I mainly read books on it, and have successfully devoured 5 books in two weeks (I'm an avid reader , never mind). Others have been facing Wifi issues, but not me. Mine seems adequate. I've got a 3mbps connection in my country, which is the fastest here
There is some dust on the upper left corner, but since there are no dead pixels, I haven't returned mine for the fear of getting a dead-pixels-infected one. I use the tablet without any external peripherals, apart from my custom made earphones, which give a good amount of clear sound with good levels of bass, even without any audio mod.
I don't use the stock things, no... That's right, I've never learned how to use those For music, I have PowerAmp, for movies, MXPlayer, for pictures, QuickPic, for internet, OperaMini, the legendary ES for file browsing, and upcoming root mode
So far, all these apps have been superb in performance at least compared to my HTC Desire.
I should probably be saluting Asus and Google, for this combined effort to hand us quadcore Snapdragon 1.5 GHz, HD display equipped, nice tablet for under 30k in my country.

Thanks for the in depth answers. Went and got one at office max Friday. Last one with too plus a 20% discount from my boys at drippler.. App. Haven't even opened it yet Lol waiting on my screen protector n case from amazon. Now what to do with the old one?
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pros and cons of nexus 7 2013?

everything is great on this new nexus 7.
but what are the cons?

How about some nice light bleeds in corners, or some dust under screen?
Oh wait, you haven't got them, right?
Here comes an update that kills your touch, hahahaaahahahaaa (said Google in Voldemort's most petrifying voice)
What the #$%@@? your touch is still intact...? well I've got an update that will kill your wifi. How about that huh....?

Doesn't have micro SD slot.
Doesn't have a snapdragon 800.
Doesn't have 4GB of ram.
Doesn't have a 4K screen.
Doesn't come with a chicken... Every top stuff comes with plus a chicken.

Pros:
BEAUTIFUL screen. It is gorgeous and very bright. You can't really say that about many tablets. It almost reaches to the level of my old Transformer Prime at 600 nits (it's about 583 nits at brightest)
Fast. This quad core S600-esque processor is so much faster than anything I've had for mobile. It's one of the reasons I upgraded
Cheap. It's $230 or $270. I got the $270 32GB which is roomy enough for my needs.
Long battery. I haven't had it for long, but I can already tell it is going to last almost as long as my TFP.
Small and can be held in a single hand.
REALLY good wifi reception.
GPS that works very well even inside
It's stock Google and will be updated as soon as KitKat or future Android upgrades come out. Plan for 2+ years of upgrades and support.
Loud stereo speakers
Support for practically any 3G/LTE data connection you'd like in the US.
Unlocked bootloader. You can modify anything inside this tablet.
Grippy matte-plastic back.
Sexy look, IMO
Thin and light.
Bluetooth Smart and 4.0 support. This will increase in popularity with wearable Bluetooth devices.
Cons:
Small screen. I think I would be happier with an 8" screen, but it's something I can live with.
No microSD slot. This is something that I can live with, and if you want, you can get a microUSB to microSD adapter.
Non-removable battery. You won't worry about this unless you are truly a road warrior. It should last you till you want to upgrade or longer.
No micro HDMI port. This, again, can be something I live with. You can use MHL I believe if you need it.
No TouchWiz or other OEM skins. Nothing I lose sleep over, just something for those who find the skinned editions of Android better than regular stock.
No camera flash. Doesn't bother me, I don't plan on taking pictures much with this tablet.
A few launch issues, maybe. It seems to be not too big (there are many users who probably don't have problems than the people who complain about it here) and is being resolved fairly quickly.
No vibrator. My hands miss the vibrations of my TFP, but it's ok.
No longer has a secure element with NFC. This means no more Google Wallet or other NFC-banking apps. You can still beam contacts and such. Not a big deal.
No 802.11ac wifi support. This isn't a big thing yet and is still just starting to get into mainstream routers. With the life time of your tablet, you probably won't see many AC routers until 2 years from now, and you probably won't be missing much. People still use .11g standards to this day.
The speakers apparently emit a hiss at low volume due to some digital volume reduction instead of using an actual amplifier.

swisstourist said:
everything is great on this new nexus 7.
but what are the cons?
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Drop tests show no survivals. Get a case or else, which might increase weight and size.
There is only T-Mobile offering Lte in USA. Verizon clueless on imei. Checking at&t Lte again tomorrow, but no tethering regardless.

Cons. Random reboots
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usb otg support with stock rom?

With NMI, yes.
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Cons. Random reboots
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https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[751-775-false]
And in some cases, even a custom ROM just holds the issue at bay for a while...

For me two things are the keyfeatures:
Price + size. I had an iPad, big tablets are not what I wanted.

owerner said:
For me two things are the keyfeatures:
Price + size. I had an iPad, big tablets are not what I wanted.
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you could get the ipad mini...

swisstourist said:
you could get the ipad mini...
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yea... *price*

I don't think there are any real cons to this tablet. Just personal preferences. Even the speaker hiss isn't noticeable unless you have ear pressed against the speaker. Overall its a very solid tablet.
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you could get the ipad mini...
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And use their locked down OS?!?!?!
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I've had no problems such as the aforementioned dust or light bleeds. Rooted out of the box, put carbon on it, never had a random reboot either.

The only con so far is that I can't use my 8-bitty Bluetooth gamepad. The new Bluetooth stack doesn't support it.
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swisstourist said:
everything is great on this new nexus 7.
but what are the cons?
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Here are some cons I am experiencing:
1.) BT unusable while connected to a 2.4 GHz WiFi:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/ORce7P9V4qU
I'll sell mine if they can't fix it.
2.) Ugly downscaling from 1920x1200 to 1728x1080 if using slimport/HDMI:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/cgKZEwu4CZg
"Workaround": Resolution Changer (root access req.!) from play store
3) Bad multi-touch behavior:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381123
Apart from the display resolution (that's what I've bought it for) and the CPU/GPU performance (I don't care - I'm not a gamer), my old Galaxy Tab 7.7 is much better.
regards
TrashX

Actually if your lucky like me I dropped mine today actually the screen kinda popped loose a little it cut off my heart stopped lol (literally) but I snapped the screen in turned right on I almost cried lol only thing it did was deleted some apps I had weird but no issues now and still looks new
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