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[Q] Will having a smaller screen affect my experience

hello people,
okay im thinking of buying a WP7 device but but i can't decide between Omnia 7 or LG optimus 7,
i can get either one of them in 16gb, as i can just get the omnia 7 16gb from germany change the language to english and the optimus comes in 16gb only anyway so storage isn't problem
the only difference is that the omnia is bigger and has better screen according to people, but i dont really care about having/not having an SAMOLED while the lg looks slimmer and easier to hold, and alot of people have said the back and search button on the omnia is too sensitive so im guessing that would be bad when reading or playing games
so question 1; can you stick the omina in a skinny jeans while sticking an earphone in the head phone jack or is it too big?
2: would having a 3.8inch screen on the lg affect gaming and reading books on the phone as it seems almost all smartphones are required to have a 4.0inch or bigger screens

Well i have a Mozart because of its nice "pocket-size".
But i have to admit that the Omnias screen is really nice and has a lot of advantages while browsing/reading etc, but i prefer a phone which easily fits into my pocket because i am not reading or surfing all the time.
Seriously, most of the time your phone will be in your pocket, so you have to test out, which phone you prefer

I'm posting this from an LG quantum. I believe it has the smallest screen of all wp7's. I've checked out the focus, and to be honest I don't at all think my experience is any worse. Everything comes thru clear and looking very high res. And even that would be a plus of a smaller screen, higher pixel density.
These phones are very high end, I don't think screen size will make that much of a difference.
Oh and skinny jeans? Really? 2007 called, it wants its feminine douchebag fashion back.

Omnia7 has a better form factor and of course the amazing amoled, and IMHO it does matter. What I don't like with the optimus 7 is its home key button, it looks quite cheap and I believe it doesn't wake up the screen if pressed coming from sleep. As for the omnia7 back and search buttons, its true...being quite sensitive. I have a fried who has big hands and keeps on hitting it accidentally as he uses the device for browsing. For me, I already get the hang of using it without hitting it. So it takes a little getting used to but the pros outweigh the cons that's for sure especially if you say you can get the 16GB version. I only have the 8 but I'm I still have 2 GB left after all the stuff I have.
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I would go for the LG. I've had my HD7 for about a month and I hate the capacitive buttons more than I could have ever imagined hating them. I have to always be conscious of how I hold my phone because if your finger grazes the wrong part of the phone you'll get kicked out of whatever you were doing. I type way slower than I used to type on my much smaller iPhone because I need to be extra careful when I hit the space bar; if I overshoot it by a millimeter I hit the home key. I also type slower because I can't hold the phone with my optimal grip, the capacitive buttons force you to keep your hands clear of that area.
For the life of me I can't figure out why someone would prefer capacative buttons.

I would go for the LG just because it feels better built the Samsung is all plastic and feels a little cheap.
Screen size I think is negligible in this case as .2 inches isn't really a big deal. At least I don't think so.
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The size difference is about .5 I believe when you are comparing thinness.
I would say that the screen difference is neglectable at best.
Zaslav said:
I would go for the LG just because it feels better built the Samsung is all plastic and feels a little cheap.
Screen size I think is negligible in this case as .2 inches isn't really a big deal. At least I don't think so.
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Omnia 7 uses metal. Probably explains why it is 20g heavier than the Focus.

sure haven't said:
I'm posting this from an LG quantum. I believe it has the smallest screen of all wp7's. I've checked out the focus, and to be honest I don't at all think my experience is any worse. Everything comes thru clear and looking very high res. And even that would be a plus of a smaller screen, higher pixel density.
These phones are very high end, I don't think screen size will make that much of a difference.
Oh and skinny jeans? Really? 2007 called, it wants its feminine douchebag fashion back.
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yeah, first thing I thought of was the new Miller Light beer commercial.
geoken said:
I would go for the LG. I've had my HD7 for about a month and I hate the capacitive buttons more than I could have ever imagined hating them. I have to always be conscious of how I hold my phone because if your finger grazes the wrong part of the phone you'll get kicked out of whatever you were doing. I type way slower than I used to type on my much smaller iPhone because I need to be extra careful when I hit the space bar; if I overshoot it by a millimeter I hit the home key. I also type slower because I can't hold the phone with my optimal grip, the capacitive buttons force you to keep your hands clear of that area.
For the life of me I can't figure out why someone would prefer capacative buttons.
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agreed, capacitive buttons do suck.

geoken said:
I would go for the LG. I've had my HD7 for about a month and I hate the capacitive buttons more than I could have ever imagined hating them. I have to always be conscious of how I hold my phone because if your finger grazes the wrong part of the phone you'll get kicked out of whatever you were doing. I type way slower than I used to type on my much smaller iPhone because I need to be extra careful when I hit the space bar; if I overshoot it by a millimeter I hit the home key. I also type slower because I can't hold the phone with my optimal grip, the capacitive buttons force you to keep your hands clear of that area.
For the life of me I can't figure out why someone would prefer capacative buttons.
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Yeah actually at first I wondered why LG would make the home button on the quantum a physical button, but after reading about the sensitivity, and noticing how sensitive the back and search button on mine are, I'm glad they did. And I assume it was on purpose with this knowledge?

You can use the iPhone as a comparison, assuming you've used one. It has a 3.5" screen, and I find it's big enough for most tasks.

mcorrie1121 said:
You can use the iPhone as a comparison, assuming you've used one. It has a 3.5" screen, and I find it's big enough for most tasks.
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Big enough, sure, but 4.3in is better.

nrfitchett4 said:
Big enough, sure, but 4.3in is better.
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IMO 4" are better than 4.3" in this case HTC really has lost their way.
That said, I wish there was a Samsung device with a 4.3" (or perhaps even 4.5") screen.

i wanted to get the Samsung Omnia 7 just for the amoled screen. But 8GB of memory is too little for me so i got the HD7. The screen wasn't as bad as i expected (coming from the HD2) its really nice and colourful.

4,3? damn before i would buy that i would go for a 7" one
$10 credit card sized phone and serious touch tablet

nrfitchett4 said:
Big enough, sure, but 4.3in is better.
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My point wasn't that bigger was too big, but that if 3.5" isn't too small, then neither will 3.8/4" be.

Zaslav said:
I would go for the LG just because it feels better built the Samsung is all plastic and feels a little cheap.
Screen size I think is negligible in this case as .2 inches isn't really a big deal. At least I don't think so.
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The Omnia 7 has a more or less complete metal casing.

I'd get the LG Optimus 7. I compared it with the Samsung Omnia 7 in a store and I THINK THE SCREEN ON THE LG IS BETTER.
Why:
1)
Most OLED screens have a lower effective resolution than normal LCDs because they have fewer subpixels. If you compare both you will notice text on webpages etc is looking jagged on OLED displays and much smoother on normal LCDs.
Search for "pentile matrix" on google.
2)
OLED screens consume big amounts of power when the image is very bright (black text on white background like on most web pages). To reduce power the OLED is auto-reducing brightness if an image with many white areas is displayed. WTF! This would p*ss me off. At least the store units did this and changed brightness while scrolling from dark areas to bright areas on a web page.
3)
OK the black levels on OLED are better but the LG's arent that bad.
Viewing angles arent good on the LG but I dont notice this at all in daily use.
Other points:
4)
Hardware buttons instead of touch (though the buttons arent that great but they do their job).
5)
Many free LG exclusive apps available.
6)
Hacking: Integrated MFG-tool with many options like a basic registry editor without unlocking (unlock works fine btw).
I bought an Optimus 7 and its working quite well. Second on my list was the Mozart which is also very nice, but I activated the capacitive search button by mistake all the time while testing.
Optimus 7 downsides:
-Headphone out has sligtly audible background noise, even more when on an active GPRS connection
-My device creaks a bit if you press it in between your fingers with force
-Pinkish spot in center of pictures taken with camera
-Supplied headphones are a piece of **** at least compared to my Koss Porta Pro
-First unit had broken bluetooth, had to send it in for repairs, now its ok
-Ringer volume is kinda low (no secondary speaker)

Volume buttons backwards?

When I press the volume button to the left, the software volume sliders moves right (gets louder).
This is when the volume buttons are on top of the tablet, which I believe is the upright position (camera lenses are on top / Nexus logo is upright).
Is everyone else's volume backwards, or is it just me? It seems like Asus has made a mistake.

Its the same on mine. I wouldn't call it a mistake. more so a prefence. If it bothers you, you may have a bad case of ocd.

Perhaps it is OCD, but who would prefer it this way? Completely reversed to the software volume. It was a manufacturing mistake, it just has to be.

Its designed with portrait mode. Press up to increase volume and down to decrease volume.
It would be confusing if the volume rocker increased the volume in portrait, but the same button decreased in landscape.
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Obveron said:
Perhaps it is OCD, but who would prefer it this way? Completely reversed to the software volume. It was a manufacturing mistake, it just has to be.
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Seeing as I use mine in portrait mode unless I am playing a game or watching a video, I actually prefer it this way. It's not really an error, just more of a design choice. It is going to be wrong in either mode unless you rotate it the other way. I'd say they just should have put the ASUS written in the other direction and have people flip it the other way.

drewmey said:
Seeing as I use mine in portrait mode unless I am playing a game or watching a video, I actually prefer it this way. It's not really an error, just more of a design choice. It is going to be wrong in either mode unless you rotate it the other way. I'd say they just should have put the ASUS written in the other direction and have people flip it the other way.
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Your hands will cover the lenses the other way. It could have worked if the cameras were at the other end.

Obveron said:
Your hands will cover the lenses the other way. It could have worked if the cameras were at the other end.
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True, there are several changes that would need to be made other than the ASUS writing. Look at the GS3 (even though it isn't a tablet), volume rocker on the left side works well too.

Volume button?

Anyone has a little play in their volume button, like almost feels a little loose. Just wondering if thats normal?

I've been wondering about this all day today, too. I have the same issue. Is just slightly wobbly, and every now and then when I put it down on the table it makes a very brief and slight rattle noise. Although I've read elsewhere this could be the camera autofocus system.
Otherwise, the button feels pretty good when pressed - gives a nice solid click. I wouldn't have noticed, to be honest, if it wasn't for the fact that I kept thinking the screen protector was peeling off whenever my finger brushed the button and I felt the small amount of movement the button gives.
Having checked a few of the other phones I have around the house (Galaxy S4, S4 Mini, Nexus 4, iPhone 4 - all the fours!), they all appear to have a bit of give in their volume rockers/buttons, except the Nexus 4.
My girlfriend also has a OnePlus 3 - will check hers when she gets home.

I have it too. I can move the complete button up and down just a little.

I just checked my girlfriend's OP3 and it has an identical amount of movement in it. Seems to be by design.

SysAdmNj said:
Anyone has a little play in their volume button, like almost feels a little loose. Just wondering if thats normal?
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I have very little play vertically, like 1 mm. It's not really noticeable in day to day use.
My issue with the volume buttons is, volume down feels "clickier" than volume up. Volume up needs little more pressure to press compared to volume down and power button. The button also seems to go deeper when pressed, compared to the other two buttons. I was wondering if that's normal. I love everything about the phone, but that button kinda worries me.

Mine doesn't seem to have any movement except vertical movement of a minimal amount

my volume keys move slightly to the right and left, is this normal?
sorry for my english

Speaker Power

Keeping my speaker grills clean however they just don't seem to sound that great anymore.
The top of the phone is alot quieter than the bottom and the right hand side is more powerful than the left (when position of the phone in portrait mode)
Mainly the phones running from the speaker bottom right.
My tweet to Razer
@razersupport another issue of concern
When using the #RazerPhone in portrait for reference
The bottom speaker is alot more powerful the the top and the right is alot more powerful than left.
Order of Power from speakers
1) Bottom Right
2) Bottom Left
3) Top Right
4) Top Left
My sound is just at the point where I need headphones as when watching media it's all been driven from the bottom right speaker.

There are only 2 speakers in the Razer phone, top and bottom. There is no left and right.

Thanks for letting me know now. It's just odd the power seem to be towards the right of the phone.
If you cover up the left it's like it doesn't make much difference but when you cover the right it goes very quite.
In portrait mode you can hear most of the sound in the bottom right speaker

iStasis said:
Thanks for letting me know now. It's just odd the power seem to be towards the right of the phone.
If you cover up the left it's like it doesn't make much difference but when you cover the right it goes very quite.
In portrait mode you can hear most of the sound in the bottom right speaker
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Once again. There are ONLY 2 speakers. No bottom right or top left. Just up or down. Thata it. And if one does not sound like the other then your phone is defective.

iStasis said:
Thanks for letting me know now. It's just odd the power seem to be towards the right of the phone.
If you cover up the left it's like it doesn't make much difference but when you cover the right it goes very quite.
In portrait mode you can hear most of the sound in the bottom right speaker
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That's because top speaker is located right in the middle of the decorative grill, and the bottom one is in the right corner.

That woul make alot of sense. i am aware there is only two speakers but just wasnt sure what the placement of them are within the phone.
yes the speaker grills are the full width of the phone but to me doesnt sound like they are as big as the grills based on the strengh of the sound coming out of them. Logged a call with Razer to get it checked out but wanted to get some feedback from other users of the phone if this is normal for them too.
Covering up vairous parts of the grill wasnt something i did when i got the phone but noticing a few things like turning the phone to watch videos the bottom speaker is always more power then the top making it horrible to watch videos without headphones.

For me watching videos in landscape rotation is perfectly fine, both speakers are equally loud and sound great (best smartphone loudspeakers imo and definitely loudest).
Watch this video, at 0:45 - 1:00 you can see actual speaker holes under the grills: https://youtu.be/lUVG7_uDWSg

:confused: ONE thing you HATE about the Fold?

if you HAD to pick one Negative about the phone, what would it be?
amongst the list of things i don't like, i must choose the one thing i use every single day, multiple times a day.
the POWER Button.
my previous device (huawei mate 20x), had a taught power button which didn't wiggle around, satisfying click when pressed, and for a bonus, textured and colored.
the Fold: aside from failing to combine the Power button and the Fingerprint Scanner, the power button on the Fold is just like any other Galaxy device: cheap, thin, loose, and mushy to press.
anyone else have something that erks them using the phone daily?

I have problems with the fingerprint reader. I misplace my finger a lot. I miss FaceID it was so much smoother.
I don't use the button. I double tap the screen instead.

The front screen sucks. I can't text, email on it. It's so small. I love My fold, but the front screen kills me!
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It's a tablet on the inside but all my apps act like phone apps and not built for the tablet.

gman901 said:
It's a tablet on the inside but all my apps act like phone apps and not built for the tablet.
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Change your dpi / minimal width, then you'll get tablet ui

Thanks, it worked for a lot of my apps except Flipboard. For some reason it keeps acting like a phone app even when I set it to 952 dpi.

skinnytoo2 said:
The front screen sucks. I can't text, email on it. It's so small. I love My fold, but the front screen kills me!
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here is something almost everyone doesn't think about when wishing for an edge to edge, top to bottom, front display:
how much imbalance it would create on the phone. one handed use would be completely be gone.
- for someone not using a launcher: reaching up top to swipe down notification shade
- whether using standard navigation buttons, or using edge swiping: imagine reaching all the way down just to hit he navigation area
- people who use swipe one handed for text, it actually is perfect ergonomically the way it is now.
- not everyone has big hands
during and even before the Fold presentation almost a year ago, everyone was criticizing the front screen size without thinking about it in depth, and people STILL criticize it in newer videos, made 2 or 3 months ago.
all they see is bezel and think "its 2019/2020, wtf are we doing with huge bezels?!?!?"
i hope samsung doesn't listen to all these brainless people moaning and groaning about screen to body ratio % in their next folding tablet device.

Mr6P said:
Change your dpi / minimal width, then you'll get tablet ui
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What DPI did you set it too?

Jeshter2000 said:
What DPI did you set it too?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/help/tablet-mode-t4040217
see this thread.
good luck!

Jeshter2000 said:
What DPI did you set it too?
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_sC said:
here is something almost everyone doesn't think about when wishing for an edge to edge, top to bottom, front display:
how much imbalance it would create on the phone. one handed use would be completely be gone.
- for someone not using a launcher: reaching up top to swipe down notification shade
- whether using standard navigation buttons, or using edge swiping: imagine reaching all the way down just to hit he navigation area
- people who use swipe one handed for text, it actually is perfect ergonomically the way it is now.
- not everyone has big hands
during and even before the Fold presentation almost a year ago, everyone was criticizing the front screen size without thinking about it in depth, and people STILL criticize it in newer videos, made 2 or 3 months ago.
all they see is bezel and think "its 2019/2020, wtf are we doing with huge bezels?!?!?"
i hope samsung doesn't listen to all these brainless people moaning and groaning about screen to body ratio % in their next folding tablet device.
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Actually the front screen doesn't have to be all the front, but it definitely needs to be wider. It's just to narrow to write fast and without issues. It works, but it's cumbersome. I mostly swipe or dictate because typing is too annoying ?
To your main question, one thing I hate about the Fold:
There are some things which could be better, like the fingerprint reader integrated into the power button, no notch, S-Pen support, wider front screen, glass screen, IP ratings, faster charging (like Note10+) and much much more... but there's just 1 thing which really annoys me: the selfie cameras. They're all ****ty. Even compared to S7 until Note10+ it's just ****. The can't focus on something you tap. All Samsung flagships can do it. It's so ****ty I don't take any selfies anymore. Even using GCam doesn't change anything because it's a hardware thing. To be honest, they could have added the Note10 selfie cam on the small front and no other cameras. They could also remove the notch since the cameras are very bad ?