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[Q]Should I upgrade or wait?

Hey guys. I bring greetings from the vibrant forums. I was wanting some opinions from s2 owners. Currently I have a vibrant and I'm very familiar with some of the devs here. I have an upgrade available to me. My question is, is this phone worth an upgrade.? Of course I'd root and install a new rom. So with the new rooms, how's the overall performance of the phone? Smoothness and speed? I'm not that worried about benchmark scores. Or would you guys suggest holding off til next year and wait for the next big thing? Thanks.

It's dual 1.5Ghz, what do you think it'll feel like? A droid Eris?
Upgrade, because there's always going to be something new and you'll just post this question 6 months from now
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It's nice phone I love it. I had a Sensation but this is pure awesome. just be careful when you choose it and read the issues article and how to look to a good one have a good screen. good luck

Don't upgrade. Something new and better will come out eventually.

GreggoryD502 said:
Hey guys. I bring greetings from the vibrant forums. I was wanting some opinions from s2 owners. Currently I have a vibrant and I'm very familiar with some of the devs here. I have an upgrade available to me. My question is, is this phone worth an upgrade.? Of course I'd root and install a new rom. So with the new rooms, how's the overall performance of the phone? Smoothness and speed? I'm not that worried about benchmark scores. Or would you guys suggest holding off til next year and wait for the next big thing? Thanks.
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Galaxy S II vs Galaxy S (Vibrant)
4.52 inch screen vs 4 inch
Super Amoled + vs Super Amoled
1.5ghz dual core vs 1ghz single
8mp camera vs 5 MP (no flash)
1080p video recording vs 720p
2mp front camera vs ............
4g data speeds vs 3g speeds
NFC vs .............
1850 mah battery vs 1500 (I think)
Dual mic vs single (I think)
Louder speaker vs loud speaker
Excellent GPS vs ...........
The Galaxy S II is definitely worth the upgrade over the Vibrant. The only part where the Vibrant shine is that it has excellent development compared to the GSII and that is mainly because the GSII is a newer device.
I've owned 2 Vibrants in the past and I can honestly say that after owning the GSII I do not miss the Vibrant not even for a second although it was a great phone at the time minus the GPS issues and lack of a camera flash.
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*chuckle* ask a question in this forum and your ensured to get at least one honest answer and at least one smart assed answer.
I also came from the Vibrant and within minutes of using the SGSII felt that it is the phone that Samnsung should have made the Vibrant be. The SGSII is much snappier, the GPS works reliably and the screen is just enough bigger that I don't mind using it to do some light web surfing.
Am sure there are some issues (there's a long thread on how bad the screen sucks but I really don't find that issue very noticeable on mine) and there is Samsung/TMobile's history of not being very quick to release updates (we're still waiting on the WiFi calling app which I believe was promised to be available at launch).
Bottom line - it's a hell of a phone and, imho, the best one available on TMobile. The only other phone I might choose over it is the Galaxy Nexus and I'm not going to jump ship to get one...
...whew. Now, go forth and by an SGSII, use it and if you like it, keep it. If not then take it back in the first 14 days and exchange it for something else

OuncE718 said:
Galaxy S II vs Galaxy S (Vibrant)
4.52 inch screen vs 4 inch
Super Amoled + vs Super Amoled
1.5ghz dual core vs 1ghz single
8mp camera vs 5 MP (no flash)
1080p video recording vs 720p
2mp front camera vs ............
4g data speeds vs 3g speeds
NFC vs .............
1850 mah battery vs 1500 (I think)
Dual mic vs single (I think)
Louder speaker vs loud speaker
Excellent GPS vs ...........
The Galaxy S II is definitely worth the upgrade over the Vibrant.
I've owned 2 Vibrants in the past and I can honestly say that after owning the GSII I do not miss the Vibrant not even for a second although it was a great phone at the time minus the GPS issues and lack of a camera flash.
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+1000
10 char

Don't wait. This phone is the next big thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVkH9Hgvda4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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shehrammajid said:
Don't wait. This phone is the next big thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVkH9Hgvda4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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great commercial!!
almost as good as this one..............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2klgdHMrRbg
haha

Lol
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OuncE718 said:
Galaxy S II vs Galaxy S (Vibrant)
4.52 inch screen vs 4 inch
Super Amoled + vs Super Amoled
1.5ghz dual core vs 1ghz single
8mp camera vs 5 MP (no flash)
1080p video recording vs 720p
2mp front camera vs ............
4g data speeds vs 3g speeds
NFC vs .............
1850 mah battery vs 1500 (I think)
Dual mic vs single (I think)
Louder speaker vs loud speaker
Excellent GPS vs ...........
The Galaxy S II is definitely worth the upgrade over the Vibrant. The only part where the Vibrant shine is that it has excellent development compared to the GSII and that is mainly because the GSII is a newer device.
I've owned 2 Vibrants in the past and I can honestly say that after owning the GSII I do not miss the Vibrant not even for a second although it was a great phone at the time minus the GPS issues and lack of a camera flash.
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correction
Super Amoled Plus vs Super Amoled

clninja said:
correction
Super Amoled Plus vs Super Amoled
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I said "Super Amoled +" to be exact.
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TheSeanTeam said:
Don't upgrade. Something new and better will come out eventually.
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If that's the case then you should never upgrade! I say check our the phone at the store and decide for your self..
its a great phone and you can't go wrong! Get it

tiguy99 said:
If that's the case then you should never upgrade! I say check our the phone at the store and decide for your self..
its a great phone and you can't go wrong! Get it
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I think that was the joke they were making. Although I hate how that is always peoples' response. It's a legitimate question if you haven't been keeping up on what else is about to come out. Not that people knew it was going to happen, but a lot of us were upset when the SGS4g came out right after the Vibrant, when it was announced if someone asked if they should get the phone I think most would agree to hold off.
However in this case I doubt we will see a SGS3 for close to a year since it hasn't been released over seas yet and then we get to wait another 6 months before they finally grace us with it. I am currently trying to talk myself out of waiting or ordering the GN from over seas.

Best Buy has it on sale for $149.99 no rebate!!!!

Very happy with this phone. i previously had a Samsung admire from metropcs which turned out to be totally inadequate .
The admire ran stock gingerbread with no touchwiz which was really its only nice feature. personally, i don't see why everyone complains about touchwiz.. There's no way it slows down the phone to a greater extent than HTC sense with all its bloated animations, and it does have a few useful tweaks.
Id suggest purchasing an sgs2.
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Thanks for all the responses guy's. I appreciate the input.

What do you Imagine in the next Nexus Phone?

Well, i have to say that i love the Pure Google Experience that Nexus phones brings to customers, i feel really atracted by the fact that Nexus phones gets updates so frequently and mainly it's style. I followed closely all the Nexus Phones, Specially the last one, the Galaxy Nexus. Although i like it very much, The desing could be a bit more attractive, what disappointed to me is the hardware. 5 Megapixel Sensor in a TI OMAP 4460 Chipset? Are you Kidding me? What could be the reason, don't know, although it only carries 5mp camera the quality is very good and the 1080p 30fps video recording is good also, but i expected a better hardware, don't know in that moment what was better, anyways, the hardware could handle the 720p resolution just fine. What i'd like to see in the next Nexus phone is:
*Display: 4.7" with 720p Resolution, Super Amoled+ without Pentile.
*1.5 GB or 2GB of RAM
*TI OMAP5430 or 5432 Processor at 1.5 or 2.0 GHz 28nm Dual Core or Quad Core Processor with POWERVR™ SGX544-MPx
*8MP Camera (Its fine with 8mp but if they want to add 12mp or 20mp its welcome!) with 1080p 60fps Video recording.
*Better audio and Speaker hardware.
*2150mAh Battery
*Android 5.0 Jelly Bean.
*4G LTE Support
What do you expect from the next Nexus Phone?

You pretty much nailed the specs just need the shell, camera and battery to follow suit.
Razr Max battery life
Attractive build that feels premium
Better camera
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hotshotz said:
You pretty much nailed the specs just need the shell, camera and battery to follow suit.
Razr Max battery life
Attractive build that feels premium
Better camera
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Big phones needs Big Battery, Small things don't fit with them
Did you try Android Revolution HD 3.0.0 ROM?
They say it provides great battery life and peformance!

All I want in the next Nexus phone:
REMOVABLE STORAGE
I could care less about everything else.

Smokeey said:
All I want in the next Nexus phone:
REMOVABLE STORAGE
I could care less about everything else.
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I hope not!

Why want a 2150 battery? I want 3300 or more. If its in the maxx I wanna see it in a nexus.
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Smokeey said:
All I want in the next Nexus phone:
REMOVABLE STORAGE
I could care less about everything else.
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Why? Removable storage + partitions + UMS is a joke and annoying to deal with. Give me single storage with MTP any day. Just bump it up to 32gb/64gb this time around.
Gahh Its Lee said:
Why want a 2150 battery? I want 3300 or more. If its in the maxx I wanna see it in a nexus.
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Seriously. Especially considering the MAXX can do it now. All phones should have it by the end of the year.
As far as OP goes, I'm down with that except:
*we need a bigger battery than 2150mAh. Let's do 3000mAh+, we know its possible.
*we don't need a larger camera sensor, we need a better one. With good software. MP's don't really matter.
*why just LTE? nowhere else in the world is close to adopting LTE other than North America. Let's see 42mbps (why not 84mbps?) dual-carrier HSPA+, with a pentaband radio. We need that option too.

martonikaj said:
Why? Removable storage + partitions + UMS is a joke and annoying to deal with. Give me single storage with MTP any day. Just bump it up to 32gb/64gb this time around.
Seriously. Especially considering the MAXX can do it now. All phones should have it by the end of the year.
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Well actually the 1650mAh Battery in my galaxy s2 is fine, i finish the day with 50% battery.. I'm not a heavy user.. Think for me should be enough with 2150.. But, always more is welcome..! What do you all think about the processor? That TI OMAP 5430 Looks powerful and promising!

Next nexus
quad core
2gig ram
Higher then 720p resolution
Projector
Wireless USB
32gig internal storage

Apple-like announcement (i.e. availability date, participating carriers, pricing).
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Smokeey said:
All I want in the next Nexus phone:
REMOVABLE STORAGE
I could care less about everything else.
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Yeah. Removable storage with at least sata 1 speeds. And 64 gigs internal.
bow chicka wow wow.

Hmm.. The next nexus with all this specs will be really expensive, if last one when was released, the gsm unlocked was.. 700 u$d i think the next one will cost around 900 and 1200 u$d :S

maxiordoqui said:
Hmm.. The next nexus with all this specs will be really expensive, if last one when was released, the gsm unlocked was.. 700 u$d i think the next one will costo around 900 and 1200 u$d :S
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Except it'll be for sale in November, and all phones will have similar specs by that time.
The Nexus S was ~$600 with WVGA screen, 512mb RAM and 1ghz single core processor in 2010.
The Galaxy Nexus with 720p screen, 1gb RAM and 1.2ghz dual core processor wasn't $1000 in 2011...
The price will be about the same.

martonikaj said:
Except it'll be for sale in November, and all phones will have similar specs by that time.
The Nexus S was ~$600 with WVGA screen, 512mb RAM and 1ghz single core processor in 2010.
The Galaxy Nexus with 720p screen, 1gb RAM and 1.2ghz dual core processor wasn't $1000 in 2011...
The price will be about the same.
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I Hope so..
The price of GN is going down, thats what i'm seeing on ebay..

Next Gnex
Made by HTC or Motorola (because there phones generally look better than Sammy)
2.5gb Ram
2ghz Quad core Snapdragon 6
4.65 screen is fine
1080p SAMOLED+ display
3 megapixel front facing camera (made by cannon)
8-10 megapixel camera (made by cannon)
64 gb internal memory
4GLTE/HSPDA+ pentaband
3500 math battery
MULTICOLOR notification light
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Addictedtothegreenguy said:
Next Gnex
Made by HTC or Motorola (because there phones generally look better than Sammy)
2.5gb Ram
2ghz Quad core Snapdragon 6
4.65 screen is fine
1080p SAMOLED+ display
3 megapixel front facing camera (made by cannon)
8-10 megapixel camera (made by cannon)
64 gb internal memory
4GLTE/HSPDA+ pentaband
3500 math battery
MULTICOLOR notification light
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Wow, Monster phone! Would be awesome! And expensive too

Addictedtothegreenguy said:
Next Gnex
Made by HTC or Motorola (because there phones generally look better than Sammy)
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I definitely disagree, but it would be logical for Google to use Motorola for the next Nexus.

vash1053 said:
I definitely disagree, but it would be logical for Google to use Motorola for the next Nexus.
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Don't know, i think Google bought motorola only for their patents, now they want to get rid of Motorola, so far we haven't seen nothing improved since google bought mobility....

Addictedtothegreenguy said:
Next Gnex
Made by HTC or Motorola (because there phones generally look better than Sammy)
2.5gb Ram
2ghz Quad core Snapdragon 6
4.65 screen is fine
1080p SAMOLED+ display
3 megapixel front facing camera (made by cannon)
8-10 megapixel camera (made by cannon)
64 gb internal memory
4GLTE/HSPDA+ pentaband
3500 math battery
MULTICOLOR notification light
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Keep dreaming lol that's way too much.

GoogleFan said:
Next nexus
quad core
2gig ram
Higher then 720p resolution
Projector
Wireless USB
32gig internal storage
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Why would you want a projector on your phone?
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For people wanting a s3, just a little note

The us s3 is a dual core chip with only two threads available at one time at the most, same as our phone I presume. Which means you will probably are better off with the s2 until the s4 comes out.
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iwasblown said:
The us s3 is a dual core chip with only two threads available at one time at the most, same as our phone I presume. Which means you will probably are better off with the s2 until the s4 comes out.
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Seriously?
GSIII
GSII
Twice the RAM, can handle an SD card twice the size of the S2, the screen is almost a half inch larger, the screen resolution is higher by a long shot (1280x720 vs 800x400) and a larger battery. I'd say the dual-core processor is a non-issue. Aside from benchmarks, you won't be pushing either of these phones enough to truly take advantage of those two cores let alone two more.
Edit: Forgot to mention, the processor is the next gen Snap Dragon S4 whereas the GS2 has the Snap Dragon S3 processor. Newer tech, better use of what it has.

bobpantsspongesquare said:
Seriously?
GSIII
GSII
Twice the RAM, can handle an SD card twice the size of the S2, the screen is almost a half inch larger, the screen resolution is higher by a long shot (1280x720 vs 800x400) and a larger battery. I'd say the dual-core processor is a non-issue. Aside from benchmarks, you won't be pushing either of these phones enough to truly take advantage of those two cores let alone two more.
Edit: Forgot to mention, the processor is the next gen Snap Dragon S4 whereas the GS2 has the Snap Dragon S3 processor. Newer tech, better use of what it has.
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I agree.. I mean our phone kicks ass. But there is not doubt that the S3 is better
I like my Roms the way I like my women..... Clean and smooth

What's also great about the s3 is how they are identical wit all us variants. The body is the same with all s3 models. Which means development is merged with Sprint atnt n Verizon. Then you have accessories that fit all models which means more to pick from.just overall a better phone not just spec wise.
My wife still had the s2 which is why I'll be on both forums but I feel there is more potential with s3
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I got to play around with my coworker's S3 throughout the day and I cannot believe how smooth the UI is. I was amazed with everything. So many temptations...$349 GNex, SGS3, and of course the upcoming Nexus phone(s)...
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The s3 does have better hardware, but with the software available, you will notice very little, if any difference in anything you will use your phone for. You could have 8 cores, it's not going to make your phone do anything noticeably better than the s2 or gnex. I think until we get the software to utilize all the cores, the only things that really matter right now are better camera/battery/screen..
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Yea but two threads is two threads no matter which way you put it. Two core two thread processor.
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try being hard on the phone. Use WiFi to download a torrent, then use the phone for a call first, then try other things like a record call feature and then web browse and use audio streaming and see how it will work. It won't be very differently from the our s2.
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You forgot to mention the dual core s3 smokes every other phone in benchmarks, including the quad core s3.. The new cpu is a beast.
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I went to t-mobile today to see the phone in person.
First impressions were less than exciting. Even though the resolution is far better, its pixel arrangement makes it look grainy. Ours seems just as sharp from normal hand held position. Also, even though its much faster, ours keeps up with all the current software and games.
On our S2, GTA 3 runs smooth with resolution on high and draw distance about 1/3 (everything else maxed). The S3 could probably handle full resolution and distance, although thats quite a bit more screen space to fill...
I would appreciate a wider variety of accessories and rom options, however ill definatly wait until its cheaper, or see whats next.

Zomg you fools. The s4 krait CPU in the s3 demolishes EVERY SoC out except the quad core exynos. Stop comparing the s4 to the s3 in our phones just because its dual core. Put it this way. The s3 in our phone is the Intel core2duo. The s4 is the Intel core i3. Both dual core but the i3, because of revamped architecture and smaller manufacturing process completely destroys the core2duo. Actually it also out performs core2quads. Cores and MHz don't make the end product. Look up benchmarks and you'll see the s4 has almost twice the performance of any dual core SoC out. Even beats tegra 3...
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bkaltec said:
I went to t-mobile today to see the phone in person.
First impressions were less than exciting. Even though the resolution is far better, its pixel arrangement makes it look grainy. Ours seems just as sharp from normal hand held position. Also, even though its much faster, ours keeps up with all the current software and games.
On our S2, GTA 3 runs smooth with resolution on high and draw distance about 1/3 (everything else maxed). The S3 could probably handle full resolution and distance, although thats quite a bit more screen space to fill...
I would appreciate a wider variety of accessories and rom options, however ill definatly wait until its cheaper, or see whats next.
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The s3 has a PenTile display. Pentile = poop. And as far as the processor goes yes is very nice but I think that hardware has gotten to kind of a plateau in that even with the new quad cores out there the performance jump is minimal at best from ours. My Tegra 3 tablet runs ICS equally as well as my Snapdragon S3 and can't tell the difference.
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I think I will wait for the tmobile galaxy note instead

corwest said:
The s3 has a PenTile display. Pentile = poop. And as far as the processor goes yes is very nice but I think that hardware has gotten to kind of a plateau in that even with the new quad cores out there the performance jump is minimal at best from ours. My Tegra 3 tablet runs ICS equally as well as my Snapdragon S3 and can't tell the difference.
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People go overboard with the pentile thing. My epic 4g had a pentile screen. I did notice a difference between that screen and this one but it isn't a deal breaker. A pentile screen at a 720p Res on a 5 inch screen wouldnt noticeable whatsoever. The difference was minimal at 480p. I doubt you'd be able to tell a difference at a high res like that.
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jtroye32 said:
You forgot to mention the dual core s3 smokes every other phone in benchmarks, including the quad core s3.. The new cpu is a beast.
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Edit: Already saw benchmarks of both the international one and the u.s. version and exynos wins in benchmarks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=SSicyj9hbwc
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iwasblown said:
try being hard on the phone. Use WiFi to download a torrent, then use the phone for a call first, then try other things like a record call feature and then web browse and use audio streaming and see how it will work. It won't be very differently from the our s2.
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it won't be very different on the international S3 either because our OS doesn't even utilize all 4 cores correctly..... and wouldn't 2gb ram be better for multitasking given that the OS optimizes with the utilization of 2 cores.

It might eat up numbers and crunch in more numbers per second but it can't do more things at once than its supposed to. The Intel i3 is a dual core but it's limited to two threads I think and if that use the case do is the core duo. Even though numbers might be able to conceive at the right time if the processes were not stream independent, important things like talking recording downloading streaming and torrent cannot be done any better with a resume boost.
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guys, he;s not entirely wrong.. the s3 processor is only about 30% faster..and better phones are coming with better quad core processors(such as apq8064 with adreno 320, exynos 5250) which will all have native hspa+ and lte support..why opt for the us variant S3 is way beyond me..

AznDud333 said:
guys, he;s not entirely wrong.. the s3 processor is only about 30% faster..and better phones are coming with better quad core processors(such as apq8064 with adreno 320, exynos 5250) which will all have native hspa+ and lte support..why opt for the us variant S3 is way beyond me..
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people would want to pay another 600 even if it was just a 5% boost.

After the galaxy line I'm sticking with the nexus. This is wack to have such great hardware and outdated software with bloat
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What would make you upgrade?

For those of us still on a SGSII, no matter what the reason is (no money, no stock, price too high for s3, nothing worth a 2 year extension), what would make you upgrade?
For me I'm hoping that the next Nexus will be the super phone of my dreams AND available for t-mobile.
Specs:
Quad Core Exynos LTE Enabled 1.5Ghz processor
2 GB of ram
16/32 GB storage (expandable)
12 Megapixel camera
4.7 inch 720p screen (retinaISH dpi) One X style, Iphone style, SuperAMOLED+ style idc aslong as its high pixel to screen size and beautiful
FM Radio (stop taking **** out of phones us carriers)
Pentaband
Huge REMOVABLE battery
2 Megapixel FFC
Notification LED
MHL
Jelly Bean +
Beat headphones lol (why not)
Dedicated Camera Button
I'm tired of phones getting ****ted on when they get here to America just so Mr. corporate can make mucho mas denero.

You could always hope Google releases and unlocked version
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subzerold said:
For those of us still on a SGSII, no matter what the reason is (no money, no stock, price too high for s3, nothing worth a 2 year extension), what would make you upgrade?
For me I'm hoping that the next Nexus will be the super phone of my dreams AND available for t-mobile.
Specs:
Quad Core Exynos LTE Enabled 1.5Ghz processor
2 GB of ram
16/32 GB storage (expandable)
12 Megapixel camera
4.7 inch 720p screen (retinaISH dpi) One X style, Iphone style, SuperAMOLED+ style idc aslong as its high pixel to screen size and beautiful
FM Radio (stop taking **** out of phones us carriers)
Pentaband
Huge REMOVABLE battery
2 Megapixel FFC
Notification LED
MHL
Jelly Bean +
Beat headphones lol (why not)
Dedicated Camera Button
I'm tired of phones getting ****ted on when they get here to America just so Mr. corporate can make mucho mas denero.
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No beats because they are only optimized for crap headphones. Once you start (I know its not the best quality... but its better than any crap headphones I can buy) streaming to your done up car stereo, that can handle REAL audio quality... then you don't want any help at all.
Just today I discovered lows I never knew existed on one song because I'd never played it in my car.
Not to mention beats are just another brand grabbing money.
Other than that i like it.
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At first I thought those were the actual specs, I was like "DAMN I got to start saving money!!" but then I realized you were describing what you want, and now I am sad.....
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Money is always the reason.
If someone were to buy my phone for a decent price, I'd upgrade.

Other than my 2 years between upgrades being up, the things that would make me upgrade would be:
Much faster processor (better than Qualcomm S4)
720p non-pentile display
Overall size not significantly larger than t989
2gb ram
Most importantly for me: DAC as good as Wolfson
And nothing missing the t989 has. I'm extremely happy with my S2.

jRi0T68 said:
Other than my 2 years between upgrades being up, the things that would make me upgrade would be:
Much faster processor (better than Qualcomm S4)
720p non-pentile display
Overall size not significantly larger than t989
2gb ram
Most importantly for me: DAC as good as Wolfson
And nothing missing the t989 has. I'm extremely happy with my S2.
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You hit the nail on the head with the wolfson dac. That things kicked SO MUCH ASS with my epic and nexus. Also I'd take a quad core s4 SoC over a quad exynos any day. 10 bucks says quad core s4 ass rapes the quad exynos when released. The dual core s4 krait SoC is the second fastest SoC out behind the quad exynos.
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But to answer the question the next nexus will make me upgrade. Having already been an ex nexus s owner I've experienced how much better the dev support was on that device. Worlds ahead. I had aokp on my nexus last year.. with the same exact features aokp milestone 6 has and more. With the nexus you could raise the wolfson dac 5 decibels above its stock setting for some AMAZING sound processing and you could tweak the amoled screens brightness contrast and colors with all with voodoo sound. I NEED that back in my life. Call me insane but I've considered taking the huge performance hit and going back to my old nexus s because of how amazing the benefits are over this t989.
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I meant Beats Audio Headphones that plus Wolfson DAC would be awesome.
I'm also talking in the box, you can always buy better headphones, but if i'm paying (600) 200+ for my upgrade then I want the best + as much free **** and features a phone can have!

The only way I'd upgrade is when the new nexus phones comes out ..Google support ftw..screw Samsung and their late releases. As great as their phones are..I can't buy anymore haha. Although their TVs are nice
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subzerold said:
I meant Beats Audio Headphones that plus Wolfson DAC would be awesome.
I'm also talking in the box, you can always buy better headphones, but if i'm paying (600) 200+ for my upgrade then I want the best + as much free **** and features a phone can have!
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Again... they're still crap for the money.
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Sighx said:
The only way I'd upgrade is when the new nexus phones comes out ..Google support ftw..screw Samsung and their late releases. As great as their phones are..I can't buy anymore haha. Although their TVs are nice
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Um sir... The last 2 Nexus' was made by Samsung. My guess is the next one will be too.

subzerold said:
Um sir... The last 2 Nexus' was made by Samsung. My guess is the next one will be too.
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He just means by buying a Samsung not nexus phone.
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Personally I am happy with my T989 and am in no hurry to upgrade for at least a while.. This phone works superbly and handles everything I throw at it, and is in no way outdated.
If you are the type of person who has to have the latest and greatest then who am I to argue with you. Go ahead and upgrade
But I'll stay where I am at least for another generation because Is phone still works as advertised
I like my Roms the way I like my women..... Clean and smooth

I know that . Samsung can still make the phone. However, its Google who supports the phone.
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Not doing any upgrading until tmo has their lte network up and running... Can't wait to see what kind of handsets they will have for that
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rymanh said:
Personally I am happy with my T989 and am in no hurry to upgrade for at least a while.. This phone works superbly and handles everything I throw at it, and is in no way outdated.
If you are the type of person who has to have the latest and greatest then who am I to argue with you. Go ahead and upgrade
But I'll stay where I am at least for another generation because Is phone still works as advertised
I like my Roms the way I like my women..... Clean and smooth
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Truthfully, this. I know we're all here cause we care about benchmarks and the latest software, but I can't think of anything I want to do on this phone that it can't deliver.

I'm pretty happy with my phone now too. One of my friends just got an s3 & I got to play with it for a while last night, and I can honestly say I was NOT blown away. I ran some benchmarks on it and my phone either came out ahead or VERY close on each test. I'm sure it's probably all due to software, but still. I thought the screen on mine looked better too, honestly. I could see the pixels more clearly on his even though it's higher-res. I'm perfectly happy with the t989's performance, the only thing that could make me upgrade would be a significantly larger display since I'm a size queen, lol... I've heard that the Note will be coming to T-Mo this month, so that's what I'm saving my pennies for

I agree if the nexus came out for tmo I'd hop on it quick!
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Nothing.
I don' t NEED the latest greatest, BUT, ONE THING that would make me upgrade, a camera capable of shooting over 200dpi, NOT the 72dpi garbage we're being given.
Otherwise, the SG2 is an EXTREMELY capable phone and they (manufacturers) are just tossing little bones to try and get people to ugprade and keep up with the Jones'..
....forget it, no thanks.
Saving my money.

[DISCUSSION] New Nexus Device?

I have been discussing the expectations of the next Nexus device with Qbking77 and other ACS members.
Have any of you heard any news or even rumors of the next Nexus device?
Also, what are your expectations of a new Nexus phone? Including:
-Screen specs
-Internal specs
-Etc;
Input would be GREATLY appreciated on this! Thanks guys!

I think is going to be another Samsung phone. That's what I read, that google had chosen them again.
I also heard that we were going to see 5 Nexus phones but I highly doubt it.
I will probably be a quadcore but i don't really see anything wrong if they go dual core, maybe same screen size or a small bump to 4.8 to be along the lines of the Galaxy S3. 2gb or Ram and improves screen, possibly still pentile technology, which i don't mind to be honest. A 8mp improved camera.
I hope they use this OMAP processor or Exynos. Something completely open source for easy hacks and tweaks.
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i havent heard new rumors for the next nexus apart from 5 nexuses rumors..
and my expectations for the next nexus following todays android phone footprint:
- made by samsung (again)
- 4.65 to 5 inch HD SAMOLED screen (with + maybe?)
- TI OMAP 5 processor
- 1 gb of memory..
- 16/32 gb internal storage (no external memory)
- 8 megapixel + FF camera
- curved glass screen
- notification light
- NFC
- possibly with android 5.0
and im hoping they will make only unlocked version..

moshe22 said:
I also heard that we were going to see 5 Nexus phones but I highly doubt it.
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Well I know that Google said they we're releasing 5 "devices" which the first two were the Nexus 7 and that Q thing...
But yeah, I hope it is Samsung too. I hope to see a thinner device as well. I mean the Gnex is thin but nothing like the RAZR! My father has one and I can't believe how incredibly thin it is!
As far as the innards, your right... It's gotta be quad core...

Gorjess said:
i havent heard new rumors for the next nexus apart from 5 nexuses rumors..
and my expectations for the next nexus following todays android phone footprint:
- made by samsung (again)
- 4.65 to 5 inch HD SAMOLED screen (with + maybe?)
- TI OMAP 5 processor
- 1 gb of memory..
- 16/32 gb internal storage (no external memory)
- 8 megapixel + FF camera
- curved glass screen
- notification light
- NFC
- possibly with android 5.0
and im hoping they will make only unlocked version..
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This seems the most logical assumption I've seen yet.
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I've stopped caring about bleeding edge and have started caring about what Google cares about for their Nexus devices. A collection of hardware and software that not only "just works" but does so while giving a fantastic, great performing, and stable user experience.
Love my Galaxy Nexus and when upgrade time comes I'll continue to buy whatever they have up their sleeve, regardless of who they choose to have manufacture it.
Google IMO knows their ****.
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ÜBER™ said:
This seems the most logical assumption I've seen yet.
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Hey as long as they make it Black or Gunmetal color and not "Pebble Blue" I'll take those specs!
Curved glass is a must though... I love it on this Gnex

I think it would be pretty awesome to see Google pair up with motorolas hardware that would make a pretty awsome phone in my opinion.
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peteyc66 said:
I think it would be pretty awesome to see Google pair up with motorolas hardware that would make a pretty awsome phone in my opinion.
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Motorola RAZR thinness maybe... But knowing their reputation with Motoblur I doubt they would let Google get away with a device without it...
But YES the build quality of a Motorola would feel slightly better than the plasticity of the Nexus devices in the past...
Let's all cross our fingers! Lolz.

I enjoy the 4.65" screen but I think it's still pushing it. I sincerely hope it doesn't get any bigger than it already is, but I know plenty of people would beg to differ.
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Soutaiseiriron said:
I enjoy the 4.65" screen but I think it's still pushing it. I sincerely hope it doesn't get any bigger than it already is, but I know plenty of people would beg to differ.
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As long as the next one has softkey's I wouldn't mind a slightly larger screen due to the fact that the keys take up screen space...
But 5" would be WAY too much... I would never get a Galaxy Note for that reason...

A better battery it's all I want

I don't care if the screen gets larger as long as they go longer rather than wider again like they did with this one.
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Zeinzu said:
I don't care if the screen gets larger as long as they go longer rather than wider again like they did with this one.
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+1.
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I love speculation threads. It will be made by any of these(I hope).
This my guess on how will it be:
Google nexus(unlikely but my preference)
720p slcd2/1080p IPS+
Dual-core OMAP5/ quad core s4
5" screen
2gb ram
3000mah battery
Samsung Nexus
720p SUPER AMOLED non pen tile
Dual core omap5/Dual core exynos 5250
4.8-5" screen
2gb ram
2300mah battery
Motorola Nexus
720 SLCD2
Dual core omap5
4.5-4.7" in screen(I'd prefer 5)
2gb ram
3500 man battery and best radio
Htc nexus
720p slcd2
Dual core/quad code s3
720p SLCD2 4.9" screen
2gb ram
1900 mah battery
Sony Nexus
720p Reality display
Dual core/quad core s2
4.7"slcd2
2gb ram
2100mah battery
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Gorjess said:
i havent heard new rumors for the next nexus apart from 5 nexuses rumors..
and my expectations for the next nexus following todays android phone footprint:
- made by samsung (again)
- 4.65 to 5 inch HD SAMOLED screen (with + maybe?)
- TI OMAP 5 processor
- 1 gb of memory..
- 16/32 gb internal storage (no external memory)
- 8 megapixel + FF camera
- curved glass screen
- notification light
- NFC
- possibly with android 5.0
and im hoping they will make only unlocked version..
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I say Google will put more ram like 2gn, to not be overshadowed by the s3 or iPhone 5. I also think a bigger screen, more memory(a lot of people have been complaining maybe they listen), and hopefully omap 5.
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Hopefully only GSM no fake Verizon/Sprint crap.

Turb0wned said:
Hopefully only GSM no fake Verizon/Sprint crap.
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What an odd thing for you to say. Just buy the gsm version.
My guess is that it will be similar to the gs3 but redesigned w/o the hardware button.
I also hope for a better screen, camera and noise cancellation
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
I say Google will put more ram like 2gn, to not be overshadowed by the s3 or iPhone 5. I also think a bigger screen, more memory(a lot of people have been complaining maybe they listen), and hopefully omap 5.
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not a single rom/apps harness the entire 1gb of memory until now, even most costum rom builders here are always keeping their rom memory friendly.. so really theres no point having over 2gb of memory beside spec sheet show-off..
also, smartphone screens caps at 5 inch max imo.. above that would be galaxy note territory.. and i dont think nexuses would compete with note..

Here's what I wish next nexus has:
4-4.6' super amoled HD/plus/super LCD.
latest TI omap/ other powerful processor
16/32 GB storage for international version!
8/12 MP + other hardware features/Low light..etc
1+ GB RAM
battery life Razor MAxx or S3. 3.8V battery
build quality like One X or Razor. as thin as S3/One X.
I wish there are many nexus devices with various screen size. For me 4 inch screen is the best size....