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Autotask Killer

I have tried to use this to stop the drm services from starting. I install and check all options to stop them from starting up. They still start up on reboot even though I check the option to not restart.
What can I use or how can I stop there since I seem to not need it.

mynewepic10 said:
I have tried to use this to stop the drm services from starting. I install and check all options to stop them from starting up. They still start up on reboot even though I check the option to not restart.
What can I use or how can I stop there since I seem to not need it.
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Anyone have an idea?

mynewepic10 said:
Anyone have an idea?
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Did you seriously just double post AND quote yourself simultaneously?
Is that another way to bump?
mynewepic10 said:
I have tried to use this to stop the drm services from starting. I install and check all options to stop them from starting up. They still start up on reboot even though I check the option to not restart.
What can I use or how can I stop there since I seem to not need it.
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So I don't know the exact behavior of every single Task Manager, nor do I know what you mean by stopping the DRM(Digital Rights Management?) services.
For one, that sounds like an issue associated with pirateing, which is not tolerated for discussion here at XDA Devlopers.
And so to probably answer your question:
Especially with an Eclair 2.1 version of Android, Task Managers are not able to kill processes immediately as they are created. I know the one that I use only kills the Auto-Kill listed apps when I turn the screen off. So your Task Manager may not be able to successfully kill the aforementioned DRM process.
Hope that helps. Don't pirate. At least don't make it obvous...

Just use titanium backup to freeze the drm services. And he's not wanting to stop it fire piracy issues, its a known issue that drm services cause a huge battery drain on our phones
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What i do is, i created a custom shortcut to settings - running services. Tap the icon, click the process. No extra killers needed. I do it once per boot.. and, having tried a million other methods, this works the best.
Doesn't freezing it in titanium cause the same problems as if it was removed?
To cyan crayon: do you have an epic?
..and just realized were replying to a post that's 3 months old.. selffail.
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decalex said:
To cyan crayon: do you have an epic?
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Yes, I have an Epic. If you use the desktop website you'll see it in my sig.
I haven't come across this DRM process issue yet, although I've only had my Epic for about two weeks. Regardless of the fact, when I do see problems I might be able to help with I will do my best to contribute.
Edit: Let me attempt to clarify what I have said.
I never guessed to check my processes, and whaddya know it's right there staring me right in the face.
The thing is task managers like Task Manager (which is what I use) only can target running apps. In case that wasn't apparent.
This process is starting along with the Android System, so unless you decide you don't want the system to start when the phone boots, it will start it every time.
The point is that task managers like Task Manager, cannot, and will not terminate processes other than its own, because (obvously for security reasons) the API for that behavior does not exist.
/lecture ^-^"
And I would imagine freezing it would cause issues. Just like decalex said. It does perhaps have a purpose.
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decalex said:
What i do is, i created a custom shortcut to settings - running services. Tap the icon, click the process. No extra killers needed. I do it once per boot.. and, having tried a million other methods, this works the best.
Doesn't freezing it in titanium cause the same problems as if it was removed?
To cyan crayon: do you have an epic?
..and just realized were replying to a post that's 3 months old.. selffail.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
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I've never had any issues withe my phone at all, other than the known dk28 bugs and even then the worst bug is the occasional wfi error running midnight rom and I have tianium freezing all drm services. And I use the media player for about 7.5 hours of my day and pandora for about another hour with the occasional movie playing during breaks if I'm super bored lol
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CyanCrayon said:
Yes, I have an Epic. If you use the desktop website you'll see it in my sig.
I haven't come across this DRM process issue yet, although I've only had my Epic for about two weeks. Regardless of the fact, when I do see problems I might be able to help with I will do my best to contribute.
Edit: Let me attempt to clarify what I have said.
I never guessed to check my processes, and whaddya know it's right there staring me right in the face.
The thing is task managers like Task Manager (which is what I use) only can target running apps. In case that wasn't apparent.
This process is starting along with the Android System, so unless you decide you don't want the system to start when the phone boots, it will start it every time.
The point is that task managers like Task Manager, cannot, and will not terminate processes other than its own, because (obvously for security reasons) the API for that behavior does not exist.
/lecture ^-^"
And I would imagine freezing it would cause issues. Just like decalex said. It does perhaps have a purpose.
Sent from my Epic4G using Tapatalk
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[How] to remove the omadrmconfigservice.drm to get more battery life on epic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794010
Do you really think that someone that knows how to pirate would ask for advice/assistance on how to do it in this forum?

brickwall99 said:
[How] to remove the omadrmconfigservice.drm to get more battery life on epic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794010
Do you really think that someone that knows how to pirate would ask for advice/assistance on how to do it in this forum?
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>.> There are some morons out there...
And you beat me to linking that.. ^^

What a good Auto Killer on EB13?

I used to use Adao Task Manager but on EB13, it seems that the autokill function is broken. I tried Auto Killer from the market and was told that didn't work either. Anyone have a preference on a good auto killer that'll increase battery life greatly?
Thanks

Overstew said:
I used to use Adao Task Manager but on EB13, it seems that the autokill function is broken. I tried Auto Killer from the market and was told that didn't work either. Anyone have a preference on a good auto killer that'll increase battery life greatly?
Thanks
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I think in 2.2, auto-killers have lost their touch, so says the changelog in Adao Task Manager app. It's harder for task managers to kill tasks on Froyo than on Eclair due to some system changes... i think...

I just use advanced killer for froyo
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Overstew said:
I used to use Adao Task Manager but on EB13, it seems that the autokill function is broken. I tried Auto Killer from the market and was told that didn't work either. Anyone have a preference on a good auto killer that'll increase battery life greatly?
Thanks
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Adao task manager still works for me on EB13. I'm careful to set certain things to ignore, but with that taken care of it seems to be working... unless some other black magic is occuring...

RandomKing said:
Adao task manager still works for me on EB13. I'm careful to set certain things to ignore, but with that taken care of it seems to be working... unless some other black magic is occuring...
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I do the same but it seems seconds later, programs seem to pop up on their own. If I wait a minute, its as if I never killed the tasks in the first place
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bighuta said:
I do the same but it seems seconds later, programs seem to pop up on their own. If I wait a minute, its as if I never killed the tasks in the first place
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This is because of code changes in Froyo. I keep a widget(process monitor widget from market) ans set it up the way i like it(excluding and including) then if it says an app is running i click the widget, click the app, click settings, and it takes you to the Manage Applications part for that app, then hit force stop. The widget is useful, but the app is useless now.
Sent from my always stock, froyo Epic

I assume FroYo automatically kills apps then?

I'm using atk without a problem
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[Q] Help, stop apps from running...

Ok first off I do not need the whole lecture on Linux and how Android is supposed to work. I have had this phone for almost a year and you can say that all you want, but my results are different. I want a way or program to keep programs from automatically booting and running in the background. I have been using Go Launcher Ex and have Launcher Pro and SPB running in the background when they were never opened. No, I do not want to uninstall them as I have paid for them and like to keep them updating and check on them once in awhile to see the improvements. And that was just an example. There are also plenty of other apps running in the background I just do not need running all the time and automatically, and I will close them and they reload. So no lectures on how your phone is made to run like this, because I notice from my own personal use that when you close more programs the phone runs way smoother with less lag, no matter how it is "supposed" to work. So is there a program or something I can do or use to stop these programs from running automatically until I choose to run them? Please help.
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I don't want to remove them, just keep them from running when they aren't being used. I mean really, if you only use some of them say once a week, do they really need to be taking up RAM making your phone lag everyday. What happened to having control over what is running, it is YOUR phone right?

Can't you just freeze what you want and then unfreeze when you want to us them?

Hey, would that work??? I remember reading that you could freeze apps. What program was that? Interesting... but really, I found a bunch of threads on angry users because we don't have control over what starts. Why can't the program just be there, until you decide to start it?

I use My Backup Pro but I read that Titanium works too. As to why...there is a long list of questions that could follow that intro...we are stuck accepting it.

Yeah, I've heard they want to track us and all that crap. I found a program called "Autostarts" that claims it does what I am looking for. Paid the .94 cents and am about to check it out. Thanks for the idea though. Freezing and unfreezing something just to use it sounds like a pain, just don't want them running for no reason.

Both MyBackUp Pro and Titanium Pro will freeze apps (tried both and like Titanium best because you can see what is frozen in the list and MyBackup does not have this). Either way you must keep USB Debugging checked for them to work properly, but that's no problem. Every once and a while you may notice something not working properly and you have to unfreeze ("Defrost") some apps to stop the force closing if this happens...for instance one of them was preventing me from changing my ringtones (I suspect I froze one of the media apps or music player, etc). Also you can use Titanium to remove apps or bloatware but since it keeps a list of all apps removed (assuming you did a Titanium backup) you can reinstall it thru Titanium.

I have Titanium and LOVE it as a backup. I love the option to individually install and uninstall things. It gives you more choice/power over your device. But I'd hate to have to freeze things just to keep them from running when they shouldn't be. It's amazing with all these programmers and smart people out there, that there isn't one easy solution to this problem.

You could also go against your own rant and learn how to close apps correctly and stop blaming the system. I never have apps re-open, so I don't understand this phenomenon. If you're unwilling to solve your own problem, so am I.

The Root said:
You could also go against your own rant and learn how to close apps correctly and stop blaming the system. I never have apps re-open, so I don't understand this phenomenon. If you're unwilling to solve your own problem, so am I.
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Let me ask....why does maps or amazon remain open all the time, when I never open them in the first place. But yet there they are...even after a reboot. What you call a "phenomenon" I see as just another day in the life of the Epic. So what do you have running that doesn't allow these apps to open. It certainly has nothing to do with the closing procedure, seeing as I never opened them in the first place
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Dunno, I back or exit out and nothing but basic google services runs in the background with swype, launcherpro, and something else. That's it. I freeze nothing, I app kill nothing.

The Root said:
You could also go against your own rant and learn how to close apps correctly and stop blaming the system. I never have apps re-open, so I don't understand this phenomenon. If you're unwilling to solve your own problem, so am I.
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It sounds like he's talking about the apps that just start up on their own, not the ones he has opened. The solution is to freeze them or delete them or install a custom ROM that left them out.

Well that was very nice and helpful of you. Either you are very well educated and know something almost no one else seems to know, or you're a complete idiot. I have found numerous threads on this subject and have not found one answer. This is no lazy ass, I cannot Google, and I am not putting out any effort to help myself question. I have done a lot of searching. Task Managers don't work, cause the apps just restart themselves. So if you are a computer God, then why not actually be helpful instead of being a jerk and wasting time posting in this thread. It IS a question and answer thread, I do not believe I am out of line here.

Not trying to be a jerk. You started out by saying you wanted different results without changing your behavior. That may not be possible. I don't know what apps you have running. Deleting an extra launcher won't stop you from downloading it later when you want to use it. Are you using the back button or built in exit button from within the app? What apps are reopening? Exiting an app using the home key will not close it. I need more info to help and less ranting.
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No, I understand the back button exits the app while the home key only "pauses/minimizes" it. And, as others have said, certain apps such as maps start up on their own. I have beautiful widgets, maps, SPB, Launcher Pro, Perfect Task Switcher, etc. etc., all running in the background at boot. It's not about me starting them, they start themselves. And even when you close them, they just restart. Why do we not have the control? There has to be a way. I do have certain apps I would prefer to run in the background, as they are used more frequently, but not just whatever apps feel like running should run on their own. Why should I have to uninstall them. Say maps for instance. It is handy to have, but really how often will I need it. So I want it there for convenience just in case. So why should it be constantly running in the background. It only needs to run every month or two or whatever it may be when I choose to use it. It's not a hard concept, but this seems to be the flaw of Android from what I have read in many forums.

Running in the background is a subjective phrase. Some run a tiny piece so they'll launch quicker or the app data may just be up behind the scene. It doesn't always mean the app is fully running. Words with friends won't close at all. I don't keeo apps that behave like that. One reason some apps stay open has to do with the memory manager. Froyo and gb are more advanced in that department.
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[Q] How to kill or close apps in HTC One X

Hi Guys,
I've noticed that when i "remove" (flick upwards) an app from Recent Apps, it does not really kills/closes that app. I know i can go to Task Manager and kill that app. My question is that is there any way (settings) that enables "Kill" of the app when i remove it (using upward flick) from the Recent Apps.
I tried looking up for this but was not successful hence a new thread (i was somewhat sure someone must have ask for it already).
Thanks

veerm said:
Hi Guys,
I've noticed that when i "remove" (flick upwards) an app from Recent Apps, it does not really kills/closes that app. I know i can go to Task Manager and kill that app. My question is that is there any way (settings) that enables "Kill" of the app when i remove it (using upward flick) from the Recent Apps.
I tried looking up for this but was not successful hence a new thread (i was somewhat sure someone must have ask for it already).
Thanks
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I dont believe that there is a setting where you can change that. If you want to kill an individual app, use the task manager but in general, there is really no need to be killing all of your apps - the Android OS is designed to have apps sitting there not closed (and the HOX has 1gig of RAM so your shouldnt see any slow down anyway!).
Some custom ROMS for other devices do have a setting where you can set longpress backbutton to kill the app that you are in. Havent seen this in any One X roms yet but im sure it will come

It has been written many times before but can't be said enough, task killers isnt helping the system at all! Android OS itself controls the ram memory and closes the apps that isnt used in case of running out of memory
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App killers are phone killers!!1
Even if you force close the app, it may reopen immediately. some apps do this on their own. you dont need to worry about it.
the phone will prioritise the currently running app over cached or paused apps when it needs to. this is an autonomous feature (you don't have any control over it)
I stopped using App Killers and found performance/battery-life/usability to be exactly the same.
remember, Android has your back.

Megabunny said:
Even if you force close the app, it may reopen immediately. some apps do this on their own. you dont need to worry about it.
the phone will prioritise the currently running app over cached or paused apps when it needs to. this is an autonomous feature (you don't have any control over it)
I stopped using App Killers and found performance/battery-life/usability to be exactly the same.
remember, Android has your back.
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Yeah but those apps are open and fill up almost whole 1GB RAM and when somone wants play game it is laggy cos not enough ram ..
Even when am broqsing internet is so laggy ..
But when u not doing with mobile it doesnt drain battery cos cpu is idle 99%

gifton1 said:
the HOX has 1gig of RAM so your shouldnt see any slow down anyway!).
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well you will see slow down because it's an HTC One X..somehow HTC have managed to reduce the performance of a quad core processor to something that resembles a dual core device...juttering and slowing down..hogging all the RAM and re-drawing the launcher constantly
well done HTC. This the last time you're getting my money.

Megabunny said:
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the phone will prioritise the currently running app over cached or paused apps when it needs to. this is an autonomous feature (you don't have any control over it)
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True, however, the priorization is all wrong. When I send my browser to the background just to open an email for an address, most of the times the browser gets closed.
So, when I revert to the browser it has to start all over.
When I look in taskmanager, I see many programs that should be closed before closing the browser, because the browser was the lastest used application.
I would love to have more control over the dumb task closer of the HOX! For instance:
- really close applications that have been in the background for at least a certain amount of time (so games can have more memory without stutter!)
- close applications in reverse order of latest used instead of used most memory
- try to leave at least a certain amount of memory free (and let ME choose this amount)
So, when many tell that task killers are not needed they are only right for non-HOX devices. In other words, the HOX task killer that works automagically has serious issues preventing us to multi-task!

Bright.Light said:
- try to leave at least a certain amount of memory free (and let ME choose this amount)
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linux caches stuff in memory to make it quicker when you do want it. unused ram is wasted ram. it is not like windows.

[Q] How to disable apps from running in RAM

Hi,
I've been using CM9beta2 on my Wonder for a while.
Now my phone it's starting to get too laggy so I'm trying to free up as much RAM as possible (having around 50MB available doesn't seem enough!).
However, many apps are always running, even though I disabled everything I could in the settings.
For example, google maps keeps regularly eating 5-10MB RAM, sometimes google Play too, etc...
Is there a way to keep apps out of RAM?
How do you do it?
The only solution I find otherwise, is to get the apk, and install apps when you need them, then uninstall them immediately...

[.::MDT::.] said:
Hi,
I've been using CM9beta2 on my Wonder for a while.
Now my phone it's starting to get too laggy so I'm trying to free up as much RAM as possible (having around 50MB available doesn't seem enough!).
However, many apps are always running, even though I disabled everything I could in the settings.
For example, google maps keeps regularly eating 5-10MB RAM, sometimes google Play too, etc...
Is there a way to keep apps out of RAM?
How do you do it?
The only solution I find otherwise, is to get the apk, and install apps when you need them, then uninstall them immediately...
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Hi... see the 3rd post of this link , you will have your solution with an app call Auto Killer Memory ------>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884479

sgilmans said:
Hi... see the 3rd post of this link , you will have your solution with an app call Auto Killer Memory ------>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884479
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5. Download and Install Use Auto Killer Memory Optimizer Pro 7 (Here it is), when install pick a preset 'Extreme' or 'Ultimate' depend on your games requirement. Your Ram will always free and it will kill automatically un-use apps
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Thanks, but... wouldn't Auto Killer Memory use more battery (or RAM) than having the apps running?
I mean, having smth that checks every few minutes running apps and that closes them... then they reopen again, and the Auto Killer closes them again, and so on... doesn't seem the best solution!
Am I wrong?
Tx.

[.::MDT::.] said:
Thanks, but... wouldn't Auto Killer Memory use more battery (or RAM) than having the apps running?
I mean, having smth that checks every few minutes running apps and that closes them... then they reopen again, and the Auto Killer closes them again, and so on... doesn't seem the best solution!
Am I wrong?
Tx.
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It really depend , but I try it and actually getting better result .
With CM9 rom there is a way to disable the apps that you don't need , just go to setting menu, chose manage apps, click the apps that you don't use , and click disable . But you have to make sure the apps that you disable WILL NOT effect other apps that in use . :silly:

Hi...there are two ways to do what you want to do....
The first is as you say to delete and re install the apps as you need them.....
The other way is to NOT delete them, but to FREEZE them. (This is the better option, and the option that I use) there are several apps that will do this, titanium backup (paid app) and Gemini app manager (free) to name two.
I use Gemini and it does EXACTLY what you are asking. You have to be rooted in order to use either of the apps I mentioned....but if you're using a custom rom, I guess you already are. Both apps are available in the Play Store, and there's an online tutorial on how to use Gemini....just Google it.......
Hit thanks if this helped
CM9....I don't have to...I just......can