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[Q] Disable certain apps from launching on their own without a task killer?

Is there an app that can edit app launch preferences, not just run and kill the apps as they start? Or is there a file that can be edited to keep certain apps from launching on their own? Thank you!

I think you can use Titanium Backup to "freeze" apps, but I don't know if that is persistent or it resets upon reboot. You could give it a shot.

TB does keep them from loading once you freeze the app.

Autostarts.
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So TB doesnt just kill them as they start it actually tells them not to load?

+1 for Autostarts.

Raillery said:
So TB doesnt just kill them as they start it actually tells them not to load?
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No, it freezes them so that the phone doesn't know they exist (they're not installed any more), so their launch-on-boot entries aren't there any more.
In other words, if you freeze them, they're not installed any more, so you can't use them.

does any one have a list of the app that can be frozzen without disruption the use of the phone? also im ussing LP so the sense can go too? if yes what are the sense apps

[Q] How to kill or close apps in HTC One X

Hi Guys,
I've noticed that when i "remove" (flick upwards) an app from Recent Apps, it does not really kills/closes that app. I know i can go to Task Manager and kill that app. My question is that is there any way (settings) that enables "Kill" of the app when i remove it (using upward flick) from the Recent Apps.
I tried looking up for this but was not successful hence a new thread (i was somewhat sure someone must have ask for it already).
Thanks

veerm said:
Hi Guys,
I've noticed that when i "remove" (flick upwards) an app from Recent Apps, it does not really kills/closes that app. I know i can go to Task Manager and kill that app. My question is that is there any way (settings) that enables "Kill" of the app when i remove it (using upward flick) from the Recent Apps.
I tried looking up for this but was not successful hence a new thread (i was somewhat sure someone must have ask for it already).
Thanks
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I dont believe that there is a setting where you can change that. If you want to kill an individual app, use the task manager but in general, there is really no need to be killing all of your apps - the Android OS is designed to have apps sitting there not closed (and the HOX has 1gig of RAM so your shouldnt see any slow down anyway!).
Some custom ROMS for other devices do have a setting where you can set longpress backbutton to kill the app that you are in. Havent seen this in any One X roms yet but im sure it will come

It has been written many times before but can't be said enough, task killers isnt helping the system at all! Android OS itself controls the ram memory and closes the apps that isnt used in case of running out of memory
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App killers are phone killers!!1
Even if you force close the app, it may reopen immediately. some apps do this on their own. you dont need to worry about it.
the phone will prioritise the currently running app over cached or paused apps when it needs to. this is an autonomous feature (you don't have any control over it)
I stopped using App Killers and found performance/battery-life/usability to be exactly the same.
remember, Android has your back.

Megabunny said:
Even if you force close the app, it may reopen immediately. some apps do this on their own. you dont need to worry about it.
the phone will prioritise the currently running app over cached or paused apps when it needs to. this is an autonomous feature (you don't have any control over it)
I stopped using App Killers and found performance/battery-life/usability to be exactly the same.
remember, Android has your back.
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Yeah but those apps are open and fill up almost whole 1GB RAM and when somone wants play game it is laggy cos not enough ram ..
Even when am broqsing internet is so laggy ..
But when u not doing with mobile it doesnt drain battery cos cpu is idle 99%

gifton1 said:
the HOX has 1gig of RAM so your shouldnt see any slow down anyway!).
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well you will see slow down because it's an HTC One X..somehow HTC have managed to reduce the performance of a quad core processor to something that resembles a dual core device...juttering and slowing down..hogging all the RAM and re-drawing the launcher constantly
well done HTC. This the last time you're getting my money.

Megabunny said:
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the phone will prioritise the currently running app over cached or paused apps when it needs to. this is an autonomous feature (you don't have any control over it)
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True, however, the priorization is all wrong. When I send my browser to the background just to open an email for an address, most of the times the browser gets closed.
So, when I revert to the browser it has to start all over.
When I look in taskmanager, I see many programs that should be closed before closing the browser, because the browser was the lastest used application.
I would love to have more control over the dumb task closer of the HOX! For instance:
- really close applications that have been in the background for at least a certain amount of time (so games can have more memory without stutter!)
- close applications in reverse order of latest used instead of used most memory
- try to leave at least a certain amount of memory free (and let ME choose this amount)
So, when many tell that task killers are not needed they are only right for non-HOX devices. In other words, the HOX task killer that works automagically has serious issues preventing us to multi-task!

Bright.Light said:
- try to leave at least a certain amount of memory free (and let ME choose this amount)
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linux caches stuff in memory to make it quicker when you do want it. unused ram is wasted ram. it is not like windows.

[Q] should I use task killers?

I have about 68mb free on ram and I noticed that useless apps are still running (e. g. Facebook, office suit, and other useless apps). I try to force stop them via settings but they still turn on by them selfs. Also, I think this is the reason why my battery does run out quick since theres apps runnimg in the background. Should I get a task killer e

No.
Using a task killer is like playing god, let the phone kill the app.
And anyway, apps usually start again and consume more ram after you have killed them.
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TwilightLoz said:
I have about 68mb free on ram and I noticed that useless apps are still running (e. g. Facebook, office suit, and other useless apps). I try to force stop them via settings but they still turn on by them selfs. Also, I think this is the reason why my battery does run out quick since theres apps runnimg in the background. Should I get a task killer e
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Keiran is spot on. Try un-installing apps you don't use (be careful with system apps) and you can also stop apps from running at boot with something like Autorun Manager
Remember to make a nandroid backup before you do anything, just in case it goes wrong

TwilightLoz said:
I have about 68mb free on ram and I noticed that useless apps are still running (e. g. Facebook, office suit, and other useless apps). I try to force stop them via settings but they still turn on by them selfs. Also, I think this is the reason why my battery does run out quick since theres apps runnimg in the background. Should I get a task killer e
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No! Free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Task killers do more harm than good

Facebook and other apps will start anyway after "killing" them, maybe itz time for root and delete those apps from autorun?
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I feel that the reason you use the task manager is only to fully quit programs/games which you KNOW will just eat up memory for no good reason, and won't reload and take up more memory. I've done this when using apps such as OnLive, where I want to kill the program compeletely so it doesn't freeze my game when I exit out. Yah, I could have ust quit the program completely, but sometimes things come up and..... I also use it to kill processes which OBVIOUSLY are causing the phone to hang. In short, I use it as a KILL command and I make sure to use it sparingly. I think of it as a super force quit option. If you think of a task manager as that, then you should be fine with one. I understand that people think that having almost no RAM free is the right way to go, and I somewhat agree, but I feel that there are times when you should free up the ram so you can replace a bad thing with a good one. I don't want my browser, whcih is lagging all over the place for some reason to take away ram from my game, my keyboard, or my voice recognition (I use it a lot). Nope, I could be better served killing the browser completely and instead loading up some programs I use more freqently, or perhaps just reloading the browser in general.

Beez thats what I meant. I just want to use it to only disable the autorun. Is there app that does that? My phone is rooted.

There's an app called Android Assistant that has an option to disable apps from starting up on boot, and so does Rom Toolbox. Rom Toolbox has a lot more options, but Android Assistant is easier to use.

I like using the Autostarts app. It costs a buck but it works wonderfully at removing programs/processes from boot

[Q] Applications hogging the RAM

I'm running CM9 by Arco and the main problem that I have is a shortage of RAM. I don't really want to swap roms, but what I would like to do is remove applications that I'm not running from the RAM. Facebook, for example, isn't set to provide any notifications, isn't running, has been cleared from the recent apps, and is still taking up 30MB of RAM. aCalendar is another - it's one of two 3rd party calendar apps that I run and is the only one that is constantly taking up ram.
Any ideas?
I looked into an app that would periodically clear out the RAM, but this took up 30MB of RAM itself! So there wasn't really any point. What is the reason that Facebook is constantly taking up RAM?
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DSPManager is another example, and so is 'Google Messaging'. Can I do without them?

creative-2008 said:
I'm running CM9 by Arco and the main problem that I have is a shortage of RAM. I don't really want to swap roms, but what I would like to do is remove applications that I'm not running from the RAM. Facebook, for example, isn't set to provide any notifications, isn't running, has been cleared from the recent apps, and is still taking up 30MB of RAM. aCalendar is another - it's one of two 3rd party calendar apps that I run and is the only one that is constantly taking up ram.
Any ideas?
I looked into an app that would periodically clear out the RAM, but this took up 30MB of RAM itself! So there wasn't really any point. What is the reason that Facebook is constantly taking up RAM?
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DSPManager is another example, and so is 'Google Messaging'. Can I do without them?
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Greenify is what you are looking for, but it only hybernates installed apps, not system apps. So for example facebook and your aCalendar. However some of the system apps you do not need like for example the dspmanager or google talk, you can deactivate in settings->apps.

honeyx said:
Greenify is what you are looking for, but it only hybernates installed apps, not system apps. So for example facebook and your aCalendar. However some of the system apps you do not need like for example the dspmanager or google talk, you can deactivate in settings->apps.
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+1

Greenify seems absolutely spot on so far, thank-you very much. Noticeable difference in performance.

creative-2008 said:
Greenify seems absolutely spot on so far, thank-you very much. Noticeable difference in performance.
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Greenify is still doing a great job. Is there a way of blocking DSP manager and Google Messaging though? I presume that Google Messaging is only used by the Google Hangouts app, which I never use.

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Greenify is still doing a great job. Is there a way of blocking DSP manager and Google Messaging though? I presume that Google Messaging is only used by the Google Hangouts app, which I never use.
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Don´t know about Google Messaging but the apps you don´t want tu use you can simply deactivate in Settings-> Apps. Click on the app you want to deactivate and launch the deactivate button. Just be careful about deactivating system apps and google a bit if it´s save to deactivate a certain app. You for sure can deactivate CM-Updater, Google Talk or Hangouts, the Apollo app if you prefer to use an other app and for example the DSP-Manager.
Edit: DSP-Manager can´t be deactivated this way. You have to use root explorer and either rename it by adding for example .bak behind it or to delete it. By using a custom Kernel with incrased audio volume, you will probably anyway not need the DSP-Manager.

[Q] Boost Ram/Disable Auto Start App's

Looking for a App that does as above without taking up much memory in the background whilst doing so. I trialed Smart Booster app and it allowed me too disable auto start for apps I don't need and hibernate others etc but sorta felt like the app itself drain my battery just as much as the apps that were auto starting. Thanks in advance

It's not free, $1.49. But it's worked for me in the past. Personally don't think it will be very useful on this device.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts

illmatters said:
Looking for a App that does as above without taking up much memory in the background whilst doing so. I trialed Smart Booster app and it allowed me too disable auto start for apps I don't need and hibernate others etc but sorta felt like the app itself drain my battery just as much as the apps that were auto starting. Thanks in advance
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Why do you want free RAM? Free RAM is wasted RAM. Android doesn't need you to constantly clear the RAM. It's actually bad to do that because you need to use more CPU power to recompile the whole app when you open it again until we fully switch to ART which pre-compiles all apps.
Also Android by design will dynamically close apps to make room if it needs more RAM than you have available. Plus not clearing it will safe battery because the CPU will run less cycles when you use apps.
That's just my opinion, however I'm sure you have a reason as to why you wan to clear the RAM. I just thought it was with mentioning the above in case you didn't know.

Pilz said:
Why do you want free RAM? Free RAM is wasted RAM. Android doesn't need you to constantly clear the RAM. It's actually bad to do that because you need to use more CPU power to recompile the whole app when you open it again until we fully switch to ART which pre-compiles all apps.
Also Android by design will dynamically close apps to make room if it needs more RAM than you have available. Plus not clearing it will safe battery because the CPU will run less cycles when you use apps.
That's just my opinion, however I'm sure you have a reason as to why you wan to clear the RAM. I just thought it was with mentioning the above in case you didn't know.
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Reason = Battery Drain. I don't use the Radio, EVER. So why is it showing in android os in the battery settings? Just like quite a few other processes sitting in that long ass list. That's why I ask.

illmatters said:
Reason = Battery Drain. I don't use the Radio, EVER. So why is it showing in android os in the battery settings? Just like quite a few other processes sitting in that long ass list. That's why I ask.
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Why don't your freeze them with titanium backup if you are rooted?

Pilz said:
Why don't your freeze them with titanium backup if you are rooted?
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Might just do that, thanks. I see LG Suite is using a lot. I dunno why though, that's fine If I freeze also? Requires $5.99. Gonna have to deal with it for a while, ive donated over $30 just today..

illmatters said:
Might just do that, thanks. I see LG Suite is using a lot. I dunno why though, that's fine If I freeze also? Requires $5.99. Gonna have to deal with it for a while, ive donated over $30 just today..
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There's a free version if the app that allows you to freeze apps still, but it won't let you do batch operations if I remember correctly.