Hi guys, just like to apologize for the noobness about to come, after looking around for 2 days im still no clearer at all...
So i have a new HTC Desire Z and i have the latest firmware that is officially released, no modding or anything yet has been done to the phone and im using sense 2.1...
Ok so im looking to modify my phone to get the latest sense 2.3 and to also be able to customize the phone a bit more then just changing themes other then just htc sense ones...
I dont understand at all if i need to root or the correct way to root on a desire z as ive read that some ways can brick the phone....
I also dont know if i need a new rom or where to get the from, again i heard that some are stable and some not and some can cause semi bricking. I also dont know if htc sense is part of the os or if it can be changed without altering anything else...
Im sure ill have more questions but thats in advance to all that can help.
Ps i also dont mind 1on1 msn help just send me a pm and ill give you my email address
Thank you
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Hello and welcome to the boards. XDA is a great place to ask questions and learn techniques and procedures to get the most out of your device. You just have to think and ask the right questions, or risk being targeted (it happens sometimes =p).
First, I think we need some basic information:
Do you have the Desire Z or the T-Mobile G2 variant? Since you are asking about Sense, I want to assume you have the DZ, but just want to make sure.
What is the current baseband (build version)?
Do you have root yet?
Are you S-OFF yet?
As for ROMs, feel free to browse around the Dev Forums. Here are my recommendations, I've used all of them in the past or am currently using them right now.
Stable Sense (2.1) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Sense from the Virtuous Team.
Stable Sense (3.0) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Unity from the Virtuous Team.
Stable AOSP GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous G-Lite from the Virtuous Team.
Stable MIUI GB (2.3.5) ROM: MIUI.us Official English from MIUI.us.
I have not used Cyanogen Nightlies because I'm not too keen on flashing almost every night. Those ROMs are for people who like to be on the bleeding edge IMO. The above recommendations are for stability and daily usage.
As a note, Sense ROMs take alot of resources to run and may be laggy at the start. That's the price to pay for Social Networking Integration and other convenience items (nicer widgets, etc...). AOSP variants will be quicker and use less memory, but they don't come with convenience options.
Athrun88 said:
As for ROMs, feel free to browse around the Dev Forums. Here are my recommendations, I've used all of them in the past or am currently using them right now.
Stable Sense (2.1) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Sense from the Virtuous Team.
Stable Sense (3.0) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Unity from the Virtuous Team.
Stable AOSP GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous G-Lite from the Virtuous Team.
Stable MIUI GB (2.3.5) ROM: MIUI.us Official English from MIUI.us.
As a note, Sense ROMs take alot of resources to run and may be laggy at the start. That's the price to pay for Social Networking Integration and other convenience items (nicer widgets, etc...). AOSP variants will be quicker and use less memory, but they don't come with convenience options.
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Im not rooted or s-off, my phone is on orange and is a desire Z.
My os is 2.3.3 and sense 2.1
Ive read somewhere in a sticky maybe to not flash virtuous... But im not sure if thats a pre-caution... I must admit im a sucker for the sense ui with its flashy looks and animations lol,
Ive heard of miui too... Another reason for wanting to do this is to remove default apps, i find it rather annoying to look thru about 5 map apps (and i dont really know which one is good or not...) And a bunch of other things when i only use facebook msn and occasionally skype. Other default apps ive probably never and wil never touch.
The sense 3.0 is the version i was thinking of btw not 2.3 (was thinking of gb) and yes stability and daily use is very much a priority as i am a noob and probably should start somewhere easy lol.
Thanks again for helping (searches for thx button in app xD)
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I disliked sense ever since i got my G2.
I found CM7 far superior to all of the sense roms. Though i do miss the contact linking sense does.
psychuil said:
I disliked sense ever since i got my G2.
I found CM7 far superior to all of the sense roms. Though i do miss the contact linking sense does.
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CM7? Lol, contact linking is useful as i am lazy and i can use contact linking to get hold of most people i kno easily however skype seems to dislike linking as some of my contacts have linked to ALL of my skype contacts.
I guess im confused about where to start as there seems to be a lot of conflicting statements, sense seems to be a.... UI overlay ontop of the standard android os, is sense the only one of its kind or is there others that are different from the android UI?
Again thanks a lot and sorry if this seems so nooby, im just trying to gather info and links before i run into problems and ask more nooby questions.
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I suggest starting with some of these links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
Read, read, read. And after you've done that, read some more.
I spent months before finally making the decision to crack open this phone and load CM7, pouring over everything I could find regarding not only how to do it, but the "whys" of what I am doing. Understanding the inner workings of what you are doing will make the process much much simpler once you finally do it.
I'm still fairly new to the android game. I came from the iphone scene, where if you wanted to get the full power of the phone all you had to do was click once and be done with it. The android way may be more complicated at times, but is much more fun, and rewarding. Once you become familiar with it all, you will never want to turn back.
My suggestion, as a fellow newbie:
1) Read: Understand what you are up against
2) Plan: Decide what you want to do. Do you just want root? Flash Roms? What Roms do you want? etc.
3) Gather: Get together all the information you'll need. Phone info, tutorials, etc. Write it down if necessary, but make sure it is all handy in case it is needed or you have to run IRC/forums for help.
4) Attack: Pull the trigger and do it.
5) ???
6) Profit.
Yea... I understand how much noobs annoy people however i also know that people should ask in appropriate places and get all the info needed so they dont act like a pro when they have no clue, i was started to get a good idea of things until i got all confused as there is no... Archive type forum for roms and stickies about what is good or bad yet im never sure if these are to warn every1 or jus noobs.
I greatly appreciate help though im looking forward to my experience with android, thanks on the beginner links too. If any1 else has any other recommended links or recommendations at all i would be appreciative!
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penfold1992 said:
Yea... I understand how much noobs annoy people however i also know that people should ask in appropriate places and get all the info needed so they dont act like a pro when they have no clue, i was started to get a good idea of things until i got all confused as there is no... Archive type forum for roms and stickies about what is good or bad yet im never sure if these are to warn every1 or jus noobs.
I greatly appreciate help though im looking forward to my experience with android, thanks on the beginner links too. If any1 else has any other recommended links or recommendations at all i would be appreciative!
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LOL
Well from my understanding, there are several different ways to accomplish the same thing when it comes to rooting and getting ready to flash. I followed the XDA wiki method and had no issues.
If you're confused about ROMs, there are usually a handful of stable, widely used ones. MIUI, Cyanogen, and Virtuous seems to be the most popular. I know you had mentioned wanting Sense 3.0, so Virtuous Unity might be the way to go for you.
Feel free to shoot me a PM if you have any questions. If I don't have the answer I'm sure I can dig it up somewhere.
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Ive read somewhere in a sticky maybe to not flash virtuous... But im not sure if thats a pre-caution...
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I think you mean the sticky thread warning not to use the Visionary tool to root, as it has been known to screw up the memory partitions and possibly lead to a soft brick. This has nothing to do with the Virtuous ROMs, which are excellent, and mostly what I run on my Desire Z.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025135
Stick with the method in the Wiki to root. Its not that hard, and its considered the safest way.
As said above, read, read, and read some more. And always ask questions, we love to help out. If you like sense, I hear the virtuous sense 3.0 rom is pretty sweet, though most roms over in development are great.
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4) Attack: Pull the trigger and do it.
5) ???
6) Profit.
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Lol, love it!
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Development? Im assuming you mean in the desire Z android development... Is it worth browsing other forums that are not in the desire Z sub forum? Or would they just give confusing information about other android based phones. Oh and can i safely rely on these recommended roms to have good keyboard support for the slide out keyboard
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It could be worth it, but if you're feeling overwhelmed maybe not. I hang out in the Nook Color forums as well. Something things will carry over. As long as you can understand the similarities (what is a ROM, etc) and differences (rooting methods, etc). You'll be fine.
Hi everyone,
Currently running the older DFT rom on my hd2. I am looking to upgrade the OS. Suggestions? Also, should the same radio rom I used, be used again. I've been trying to cram my brain with as much info as possible here. Really great site! Anyway. I'm in Chicago, using t-mobile.
Thanks in advance!
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Wrong Section
Do you know that this section is for Android Development and not for questions. If you go back one subforum, you will find a section called "HD2 Android Q&A". That is where this question should be posted.
Mod please move to the Q&A section
To answer your question: There is no best rom, you will have to try some to find the best. Every HD2 is a little bit different and users tastes are different. Flash, flash, flash and you will find your perfect rom.
think this is posted in the wrong section m8
On the subject no-one can tell you what the best rom is other than yourself each persons needs differ
miui - sense - ics are just a few of the many choices you have best to just tesdt run a few see what best works for you
Personally i prefer miui for overall performance battery life and ease of use
sense roms are more sluggish but have more eye candy
ics is the one to go for when all the bugs are fixed i would stay clear just now unless you want to contribute to beta testing
Yeah, I'm really sorry. I noticed right after I posted it. I was actually in the process of searching for a moderator as I got your reply.
Sorry again and thanks!
Hi peeps,
Ok...this is my dilemma. For some time now I have been using a HTC Wildfire phone as my work provided them for the staff. We have all been in the same opinion that the phones cause us daily problems with calls dropping, phone freezing, etc etc.
I personally have a Samsung S2 which has been great, although sadly the custom rom I have on it is no longer been developed so that's another issue to tackle another day.
Because I have to use the Wildfire daily I am looking to try and load a rom to make life easier and less problematic. So I would be grateful for suggestions and advice on a rom I could look at installing into the phone, thanks :good:
Firstly just to be sure this is a "Wildfire S" forum not "Wildfire". Huge difference between both. Just making sure you are in right direction.
You may wanna root your phone and try a improved version of stock ROM assuming you need sense 2.1. I haven't used many sense 2.1 roms but Mindhaxor or disciple 1 is my favorite. Get them from android forums.
I personally use MIUI v4 for daily use. It's great.
Cheers really appreciate your advice on this, after looking at videos on youtube to check and it would seem that it's not the "S" version at all....whoops....sorry about that.
Will now venture onto the Wildfire forum lol! :good:
Hello all!
As a precursor, I've been upgrading my ROMs ever since the G1, so I'm not a complete loss.
With that said, I need someone (please) to jump in and recommend to me the current best sense ROM for the G2. I am currently running Virtuous-Vision-v0.8.1 . As you can see, it's been a while since my last ROM update, which is why I'm coming to you incredibly informative folks.
Any direction you can give, I would greatly appreciate.
Take care!
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Hello all!
As a precursor, I've been upgrading my ROMs ever since the G1, so I'm not a complete loss.
With that said, I need someone (please) to jump in and recommend to me the current best sense ROM for the G2. I am currently running Virtuous-Vision-v0.8.1 . As you can see, it's been a while since my last ROM update, which is why I'm coming to you incredibly informative folks.
Any direction you can give, I would greatly appreciate.
Take care!
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005461
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989863
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Best+Sense+ROM+for+HTC+D
This thread belongs in the Q&A. Why would you post it in here...?
Also, there's a thread under this section that lists all of the rom's available for this device.
But, since you're looking for Sense rom's it'd be a good idea to go for the Gen.Y VisionX Sense 4A rom. It's got great performance and pretty much everything is working so it's an excellent replacement from what you're currently running. You don't need swap for it too.
You can still poke through the other rom's and find what works best for you.
hey!!
i bought htc desire hd from a chinese seller. the phone is good and came rooted(i really wonder if its new or refurbished).
though i have low signal reception issues now.
Now i am bored with the gingerbread and want to upgrade to ics or jellybean.
so can someone tell me a rom in which everything is working perfectly, i doesnt matter if its ics or JB.
and please tell me how to install it in details as i am a newbie
It seems that Jelly time is a verry stable rom, have not used it myself but it seems that way. And for the how-to, check one of the guides on the desire hd forums. There are plente of them out there.
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chaudharyanant said:
hey!!
i bought htc desire hd from a chinese seller. the phone is good and came rooted(i really wonder if its new or refurbished).
though i have low signal reception issues now.
Now i am bored with the gingerbread and want to upgrade to ics or jellybean.
so can someone tell me a rom in which everything is working perfectly, i doesnt matter if its ics or JB.
and please tell me how to install it in details as i am a newbie
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just simple, download rom and flash it in recovery.....i was same case and now enjoying ICS on my DHD... you can contact me on my email [email protected]
Everything you need to know is in here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=754
Just look around and read up. I could just post a link to a Rom and give you a few directions but it will be much more satisfying to find a Rom that fits your specific needs and learn how to flash it yourself. Trust me.
Please hit Thanks if I've been helpful at all.
Here is a good sticky to get you started: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214
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