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I know this has probably been asked to death, but the suggested results returned nothing...
Did a titanium backup, and a rom manager backup Via clockwork..... But now i cannot decide on which ROM to use!
It also doesnt help that when im reading specs... i have NO idea what 70% of it means, so its hard to base my own decision. So.....
Which ROM do you use? What are its best features? Is it a noticeable difference from Stock to Custom? Are they buggy? I have so many questions, but dont wanna be a bother... So maybe if you could just give me benefits of the one you use, that would be great.
Thank you
So long as you've got your backup, just go ahead and try some of the roms that are out there. If you don't like a particular rom, flash another.
Personally I like the Sense based roms, I have tried others but I keep going back to Sense. I'm currently using InsertCoin which based on a Desire HD rom, small fonts compared to the Desire, but other features including Skins (themes), HTCSense.com phone finder (which doesn't always work).
Are you wanting to try a non Sense based rom? There are plenty out there to play with, MIUI, Cyanogen, Gingerbread roms too.
In this forum, there is a thread which compares all the available ROM's (I'll post the link once I find it)
As @UKseagull mentioned, try different ROM's , You might find a suitable one for you !
Jeeezus ****ing christ. There needs to be a sticky to say that a rom is a rom that YOU, the user must decide on. It is not about what we think, it is about what you think. Your own PERSONAL PREFERENCE!
This is prob the 10th thread this week about that same topic.
GoogleJelly said:
Jeeezus ****ing christ. There needs to be a sticky to say that a rom is a rom that YOU, the user must decide on. It is not about what we think, it is about what you think. Your own PERSONAL PREFERENCE!
This is prob the 10th thread this week about that same topic.
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Why are you so angry if someone asks a perfectly in place question?!
There are really many roms for the Desire, and I am _sure_ most of them are not stable.
So, if a newbee asks which rom should he try, an experienced flasher could point to the most stable rom. One with Sense, one without. This is very valuable information.
Why should EVERYBODY flash 10 roms before he/she finds a stable one?!
When I was flashing roms on my previous winmo phone, I was ALWAYS responding to such questions to my best knowledge.
And, yes, there are many same threads, because MANY people want to know about this and cannot find ANY info.
So, in short, either answer the man or shut up!
Sike-1 said:
I know this has probably been asked to death, but the suggested results returned nothing...
Did a titanium backup, and a rom manager backup Via clockwork..... But now i cannot decide on which ROM to use!
It also doesnt help that when im reading specs... i have NO idea what 70% of it means, so its hard to base my own decision. So.....
Which ROM do you use? What are its best features? Is it a noticeable difference from Stock to Custom? Are they buggy? I have so many questions, but dont wanna be a bother... So maybe if you could just give me benefits of the one you use, that would be great.
Thank you
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I'm using InsertCoin at the moment which is a ported HD ROM and seems really good. If you want to stick with non HD then LeeDroid is great.
Links to both in my signature.
sudkcoce said:
Why are you so angry if someone asks a perfectly in place question?!
There are really many roms for the Desire, and I am _sure_ most of them are not stable.
So, if a newbee asks which rom should he try, an experienced flasher could point to the most stable rom. One with Sense, one without. This is very valuable information.
Why should EVERYBODY flash 10 roms before he/she finds a stable one?!
When I was flashing roms on my previous winmo phone, I was ALWAYS responding to such questions to my best knowledge.
And, yes, there are many same threads, because MANY people want to know about this and cannot find ANY info.
So, in short, either answer the man or shut up!
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He's angry because it's like the 10th time people ask the same (stupid) question over and over again. In the development part you can find plenty of topics about roms. Some of them are stable, some of the are not, you can read it all in their specific thread. Read, read, read, that's all you have to do here. I'm a noob too and I've been reading like 4 weeks here before I decided to flash a certain rom (leedroid), and it works great.
It's a shame that XDA doesn't have a poll similar to the ZTE - which rom poll over at Modaco, a quick look and you can see which are the most popular roms in use at that point in time. http://android.modaco.com/content/z...omisation/329997/poll-what-rom-are-you-using/
The OP asked a question because they probably value advice from the more experienced rom flashers here , those that are willing to give advice will do so. Yes, rom choice is an individual preference but there's really no need for people to reply with derogatory comments, just ignore the thread and leave it to the others that are willing to help.
GoogleJelly said:
Jeeezus ****ing christ. There needs to be a sticky to say that a rom is a rom that YOU, the user must decide on. It is not about what we think, it is about what you think. Your own PERSONAL PREFERENCE!
This is prob the 10th thread this week about that same topic.
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decat said:
He's angry because it's like the 10th time people ask the same (stupid) question over and over again. In the development part you can find plenty of topics about roms. Some of them are stable, some of the are not, you can read it all in their specific thread. Read, read, read, that's all you have to do here. I'm a noob too and I've been reading like 4 weeks here before I decided to flash a certain rom (leedroid), and it works great.
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Read? Did you not READ where i said that the specs mean NOTHING cause i dont exactly understand what im "Getting" in a rom? Im pretty computer literate, and have only had my desire (or android in general), for maybe 3 weeks. This is all new to me. Ive sim unlocked and rooted thus far without confusion or asking for help.
Its just the specs. Theres so much **** in them that i dont understand that its hard to pick one. Intimidating sorta.
Thanks to all that helped. I think im going to try leedroid. Its sense based, which i like over vanilla from what ive seen.
I come from LeeDroid which is an awesome Sense ROM. Currently though I use Redux which is senseless. What can I say, I like it minimalistic. I also prefer to decide myself what apps should be installed on -my- phone.
I wish Lee came out with a clean AOSP build... Or I figured out how to use his kernel and build my own.
Anyway good luck.
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I've been using LeeDroid for several months now with no issues at all. If you check his minisite out, he lists all the apps you can safely remove from the zip prior to flashing without damaging it. That way you are only installing the bare minimum required to run a Sense ROM and you then just add the bits you want.
Personally I only run a Sense ROM because I like the HTC dialer, clock and phonebook over the vanilla Android ones. I use launcher pro which just seems to be snappier than Sense with more customising options.
Deifyed said:
I come from LeeDroid which is an awesome Sense ROM. Currently though I use Redux which is senseless. What can I say, I like it minimalistic. I also prefer to decide myself what apps should be installed on -my- phone.
I wish Lee came out with a clean AOSP build... Or I figured out how to use his kernel and build my own.
Anyway good luck.
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I have the same experience.
Started with Lee (runs flawlessly) and then wanted ginger rom so switched to Redux - very satisfied
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I think im going to try leedroid. Its sense based, which i like over vanilla from what ive seen.
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Mine is almost two months old and I flashed a rom for the first time last week.
Leedroid runs great but as said earlier it all depends on personal preferences, I also installed Launcher Pro cause i like it more compared to the stock dock etc.
Good luck!
GingerVillian is my recommend
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Hi guys, just like to apologize for the noobness about to come, after looking around for 2 days im still no clearer at all...
So i have a new HTC Desire Z and i have the latest firmware that is officially released, no modding or anything yet has been done to the phone and im using sense 2.1...
Ok so im looking to modify my phone to get the latest sense 2.3 and to also be able to customize the phone a bit more then just changing themes other then just htc sense ones...
I dont understand at all if i need to root or the correct way to root on a desire z as ive read that some ways can brick the phone....
I also dont know if i need a new rom or where to get the from, again i heard that some are stable and some not and some can cause semi bricking. I also dont know if htc sense is part of the os or if it can be changed without altering anything else...
Im sure ill have more questions but thats in advance to all that can help.
Ps i also dont mind 1on1 msn help just send me a pm and ill give you my email address
Thank you
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Hello and welcome to the boards. XDA is a great place to ask questions and learn techniques and procedures to get the most out of your device. You just have to think and ask the right questions, or risk being targeted (it happens sometimes =p).
First, I think we need some basic information:
Do you have the Desire Z or the T-Mobile G2 variant? Since you are asking about Sense, I want to assume you have the DZ, but just want to make sure.
What is the current baseband (build version)?
Do you have root yet?
Are you S-OFF yet?
As for ROMs, feel free to browse around the Dev Forums. Here are my recommendations, I've used all of them in the past or am currently using them right now.
Stable Sense (2.1) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Sense from the Virtuous Team.
Stable Sense (3.0) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Unity from the Virtuous Team.
Stable AOSP GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous G-Lite from the Virtuous Team.
Stable MIUI GB (2.3.5) ROM: MIUI.us Official English from MIUI.us.
I have not used Cyanogen Nightlies because I'm not too keen on flashing almost every night. Those ROMs are for people who like to be on the bleeding edge IMO. The above recommendations are for stability and daily usage.
As a note, Sense ROMs take alot of resources to run and may be laggy at the start. That's the price to pay for Social Networking Integration and other convenience items (nicer widgets, etc...). AOSP variants will be quicker and use less memory, but they don't come with convenience options.
Athrun88 said:
As for ROMs, feel free to browse around the Dev Forums. Here are my recommendations, I've used all of them in the past or am currently using them right now.
Stable Sense (2.1) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Sense from the Virtuous Team.
Stable Sense (3.0) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Unity from the Virtuous Team.
Stable AOSP GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous G-Lite from the Virtuous Team.
Stable MIUI GB (2.3.5) ROM: MIUI.us Official English from MIUI.us.
As a note, Sense ROMs take alot of resources to run and may be laggy at the start. That's the price to pay for Social Networking Integration and other convenience items (nicer widgets, etc...). AOSP variants will be quicker and use less memory, but they don't come with convenience options.
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Im not rooted or s-off, my phone is on orange and is a desire Z.
My os is 2.3.3 and sense 2.1
Ive read somewhere in a sticky maybe to not flash virtuous... But im not sure if thats a pre-caution... I must admit im a sucker for the sense ui with its flashy looks and animations lol,
Ive heard of miui too... Another reason for wanting to do this is to remove default apps, i find it rather annoying to look thru about 5 map apps (and i dont really know which one is good or not...) And a bunch of other things when i only use facebook msn and occasionally skype. Other default apps ive probably never and wil never touch.
The sense 3.0 is the version i was thinking of btw not 2.3 (was thinking of gb) and yes stability and daily use is very much a priority as i am a noob and probably should start somewhere easy lol.
Thanks again for helping (searches for thx button in app xD)
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I disliked sense ever since i got my G2.
I found CM7 far superior to all of the sense roms. Though i do miss the contact linking sense does.
psychuil said:
I disliked sense ever since i got my G2.
I found CM7 far superior to all of the sense roms. Though i do miss the contact linking sense does.
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CM7? Lol, contact linking is useful as i am lazy and i can use contact linking to get hold of most people i kno easily however skype seems to dislike linking as some of my contacts have linked to ALL of my skype contacts.
I guess im confused about where to start as there seems to be a lot of conflicting statements, sense seems to be a.... UI overlay ontop of the standard android os, is sense the only one of its kind or is there others that are different from the android UI?
Again thanks a lot and sorry if this seems so nooby, im just trying to gather info and links before i run into problems and ask more nooby questions.
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I suggest starting with some of these links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
Read, read, read. And after you've done that, read some more.
I spent months before finally making the decision to crack open this phone and load CM7, pouring over everything I could find regarding not only how to do it, but the "whys" of what I am doing. Understanding the inner workings of what you are doing will make the process much much simpler once you finally do it.
I'm still fairly new to the android game. I came from the iphone scene, where if you wanted to get the full power of the phone all you had to do was click once and be done with it. The android way may be more complicated at times, but is much more fun, and rewarding. Once you become familiar with it all, you will never want to turn back.
My suggestion, as a fellow newbie:
1) Read: Understand what you are up against
2) Plan: Decide what you want to do. Do you just want root? Flash Roms? What Roms do you want? etc.
3) Gather: Get together all the information you'll need. Phone info, tutorials, etc. Write it down if necessary, but make sure it is all handy in case it is needed or you have to run IRC/forums for help.
4) Attack: Pull the trigger and do it.
5) ???
6) Profit.
Yea... I understand how much noobs annoy people however i also know that people should ask in appropriate places and get all the info needed so they dont act like a pro when they have no clue, i was started to get a good idea of things until i got all confused as there is no... Archive type forum for roms and stickies about what is good or bad yet im never sure if these are to warn every1 or jus noobs.
I greatly appreciate help though im looking forward to my experience with android, thanks on the beginner links too. If any1 else has any other recommended links or recommendations at all i would be appreciative!
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penfold1992 said:
Yea... I understand how much noobs annoy people however i also know that people should ask in appropriate places and get all the info needed so they dont act like a pro when they have no clue, i was started to get a good idea of things until i got all confused as there is no... Archive type forum for roms and stickies about what is good or bad yet im never sure if these are to warn every1 or jus noobs.
I greatly appreciate help though im looking forward to my experience with android, thanks on the beginner links too. If any1 else has any other recommended links or recommendations at all i would be appreciative!
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LOL
Well from my understanding, there are several different ways to accomplish the same thing when it comes to rooting and getting ready to flash. I followed the XDA wiki method and had no issues.
If you're confused about ROMs, there are usually a handful of stable, widely used ones. MIUI, Cyanogen, and Virtuous seems to be the most popular. I know you had mentioned wanting Sense 3.0, so Virtuous Unity might be the way to go for you.
Feel free to shoot me a PM if you have any questions. If I don't have the answer I'm sure I can dig it up somewhere.
penfold1992 said:
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Ive read somewhere in a sticky maybe to not flash virtuous... But im not sure if thats a pre-caution...
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I think you mean the sticky thread warning not to use the Visionary tool to root, as it has been known to screw up the memory partitions and possibly lead to a soft brick. This has nothing to do with the Virtuous ROMs, which are excellent, and mostly what I run on my Desire Z.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025135
Stick with the method in the Wiki to root. Its not that hard, and its considered the safest way.
As said above, read, read, and read some more. And always ask questions, we love to help out. If you like sense, I hear the virtuous sense 3.0 rom is pretty sweet, though most roms over in development are great.
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4) Attack: Pull the trigger and do it.
5) ???
6) Profit.
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Lol, love it!
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Development? Im assuming you mean in the desire Z android development... Is it worth browsing other forums that are not in the desire Z sub forum? Or would they just give confusing information about other android based phones. Oh and can i safely rely on these recommended roms to have good keyboard support for the slide out keyboard
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It could be worth it, but if you're feeling overwhelmed maybe not. I hang out in the Nook Color forums as well. Something things will carry over. As long as you can understand the similarities (what is a ROM, etc) and differences (rooting methods, etc). You'll be fine.
hi to everyone,
i'm not new to XDA (i'm nexus s user), but i'm new to desire section
my friend need to upgrade his desire to gingerbread 2.3, possibly with Sense UI
like you know, this is possible only with a custom ROM. so the question is:
Which ROM (possibly with Sense) is the best today (11-04-12) ???
imho best is:
1-stable
2-without bugs
3-fast
thanks
mattia.b89 said:
i'm not new to XDA (i'm nexus s user), but i'm new to desire section
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Lucky them to have you.
[Q] best sense brain
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you could try some coolexe bravo s roms (desire s roms) , these are sense 2.1 roms with gingerbread ... i find the desire doesnt handle the newer versions of sense well but thats what i think
This really is becoming ridiculous.
[Q] Where do I find google?
I don't understand all these insults .... this is the Questions section not Development.....
sent from my NS
mattia.b89 said:
I don't understand all these insults .... this is the Questions section not Development.....
sent from my NS
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The reason you are getting all these insults is because you say that you are not new to xda yet you act like you are. It's not that you posted on the wrong section, it's because you asked a very common question that could have been answered by you doing a search query.
Or you could just say in one sentence which you think is the best sense rom. Jeezzz i dont understand why you take the effort to complain but cant answer a simple question.
In my opinion, cooldroid v3 is the best sense rom for the htc desire. Its a sens 2.1 based rom, which makes it very fast
yes, specify what stable mean perhaps is too much, but the main reason because i ask you is that with google and search function i've found only old information ......
if my previous question make your brain loop, just tell me which ROM are you using ..... ok ?
mattia.b89 said:
yes, specify what stable mean perhaps is too much, but the main reason because i ask you is that with google and search function i've found only old information ......
if my previous question make your brain loop, just tell me which ROM are you using ..... ok ?
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your question it's like "what's the best color?", we can't answer this, just try some roms and find it urself, in my opinion, all sense roms are stable, 3.5 doesn't match too fine as we want, but's usable anyway... ginger + 2.1 it's more fastest but idk...
Thanks for every reply.
For consistence i've changed topic title:
Which ROM are you using???
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mattia.b89 said:
Thanks for every reply.
For consistence i've changed topic title:
Which ROM are you using???
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Dude, seriously??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443408
mattia.b89 said:
Thanks for every reply.
For consistence i've changed topic title:
Which ROM are you using???
sent from my NS
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for consistency, they are listed here too
the ones on the first page are generally the ROMs that people are using...
mattia.b89 said:
imho best is:
1-stable
2-without bugs
3-fast
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development is still pretty active, despite the desire being the best part of 2 years old, so many of the roms there fulfill all your requirements, therefore in your honest opinion, nearly all are the best
even if you get many more replies from other users about what ROM they are using, it's only from users who can be bothered to post here, whereas most post in the rom threads themselves. experiences are often conflicting. one user's experience (AMAZING) with a rom can be completely different (LAGGGGGYYYY BUGGGYYYY) from another, which will only confuse you further. why? many combinations of apps/sync/launcher/kernel/hardware. most importantly, we all use the phone differently...
and in the time that it takes for people to post here and argue over which is AWESOME ROCK SOLID STABLE, NO BUGS, SOOO FAST and DEFINITELY THE BEST ROM EVER!!!!!11 you could have formed your own opinion by reading a snapshot of the threads, even install a couple and try them out, which is definitely the 'best' way of discovery.
which hopefully gives some further insight as to why best rom threads are pretty pointless...
there is no best ROM, only the best ROM for your needs (or your friend's needs in this case)
good luck, i hope you find will the best one, i'm still looking
Thanks. Soon I'll flash one off them and tell you which....
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The New Cool Sense
it has minor buggs but all in all it's perfect, for now
bugi986 said:
it has minor buggs but all in all it's perfect, for now
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Perfection is an absolute value. No but's.
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erklat said:
Perfection is an absolute value. No but's.
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yeah cause I had tons of overheating, and resets with the other roms, especially when on 3G, or GPS... which was annoying... as for this one, I'm absolutely satisfied with
no overheating
good CPU clock
nice apps
lots of room on internal storage
those are perfect values for me, though someone else may have a different opinion
as for the minor buggs
it auto dials +1 in dialer (that's the one I've seen so far)
but You just get a new dialer from the market and problem solved
Sandvolds ICS 0.6.
IMO this is best for me.
Tried about 20 different roms, various sense, gingerbread, ICS & miui.
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Tried about 20 different roms, various sense, gingerbread, ICS & miui.
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And chose the most buggered one. Kudos.
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I'm using Oxygen, one years.
For me it's Sandvold's ICS for Desire.
It has great support and works like a charm for the most part.
It has one or two major and some minor issues but that is to be expected it is still a beta mind you.
Overall its the best rom for my tastes. Its still under development and updates are released as much as twice a week. The development team and specifically Sandvold is always on the case solving issues and helping where he can.
Hi,
been using dk_zero_cool's bcm RC3.3 (SDEXT) for a few weeks now. It was working quite alright at the beginning but keeps getting worse.
Everything is just slow and keeps crashing. Especially the keyboard when googling with chrome is such a pain in the ass due to the fact that is already searches while u type so that it lags like hell..
Not really sure whether this is the case with all ICS roms, or just my Desire.
So I am looking for a new rom. Will give those 2 a closer look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355660 Sanvold ICS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24542016#post24542016 COS-Bravo-ICS
Any suggestions on which on is more stable to use?
Or should I revert back to GB if I want fast and stable rom?
Just felt that ICS in general is a lot faster than GB but not (well of course because its beta so far) as stable..
Hoping for some discussion here.
regards
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Not really sure whether this is the case with all ICS roms, or just my Desire.
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...or there is something wrong with your head.
Want discussion? Try using some of the gray matter before opening another useless ICS thread. Then we might talk.
oh no its a useless thread oh no pls flame
guess i know y i never post here.
those 10 posts in the thread u linked can barely called a discussion
now shut up
Erklat is right tho, sanvold + cos bravo ics has been talked about plenty so im sure if did a bit more research before u post u will find ur answer
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So yeah! xD
Im just really curious about what ROM i should use and how im going to root my one x. I ordered it today so it´ll probably be at my house on thursday cus of easter.. But i was like why not to start a bit early and check out what ROM i should use and stuff..
So my big question is what ROM would you guys recommend? Also give a few example why you think i should use that ROM I just came back from my HTC Sensation so i know a few things but not that much
It would mean alot to me if somebody could help me out with this!
THANKS!
nkewk said:
So yeah! xD
Im just really curious about what ROM i should use and how im going to root my one x. I ordered it today so it´ll probably be at my house on thursday cus of easter.. But i was like why not to start a bit early and check out what ROM i should use and stuff..
So my big question is what ROM would you guys recommend? Also give a few example why you think i should use that ROM I just came back from my HTC Sensation so i know a few things but not that much
It would mean alot to me if somebody could help me out with this!
THANKS!
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Congrats for your new phone.
There are a lot of rooting guides available. Just look at the stickies.
As for ROMs, there are a lot of ROMs to start with.
You want AOSP or Sense?
ViperX is the best Sense ROM.
SlimBean is the best AOSP ROM.
You may try out both.
Sent from my HTC ViperX
athulele said:
Congrats for your new phone.
There are a lot of rooting guides available. Just look at the stickies.
As for ROMs, there are a lot of ROMs to start with.
You want AOSP or Sense?
ViperX is the best Sense ROM.
SlimBean is the best AOSP ROM.
You may try out both.
Sent from my HTC ViperX
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Hey thanks for answering!
I dont really know what i want right now But i will try both I also found the "rooting tool" so i guess i will be using that one
Also i just read in some forum that i should update something before i root it? Do you know anything about it, because i lost the site Thanks again mate!
There is no "best" rom. Viper X is not the best rom, its the most customizable rom.....yes.
The best rom is the rom that fits you and your needs the most.
Athulele, it's inappropriate to take two ROMs you like and call them the best of all. It's false information.
@OP
It is purely based on opinion and you should definitely develop your own taste of software and not simply flash stuff that people tell you to.
@Hofs I'm just sayin', that AOKP is equally (if not even more) customizable to ViperX
Sorry for groaning
Sent from my IceCold One X
ROM Comparison threads are unfortunately not allowed on XDA. A lot of people have different ideas of what is best and unfortunately sharing their ideas and opinions frequently leads to trolling, flaming and more.
My personal recommendation would be to visit some of the ROM threads in the Development section. Read the OP. Preview the screenshots. Skim through some of the user comments and complaints. Find one you're interested in and give it a shot. If you like it keep it, if you don't move on and try another.
With that being said this thread is now closed.