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Re-re porters at large!!!

To Whom It May Concern!
Don't port over other theme dever's stuff unless they give the ok.
in this scenario you either get permission or make your own.
STAY AWAY FROM MANUP456 THEME'S IF OTHER THEME DEVER'S ARE OK WITH IT BE MY GUEST!
EDIT#1s. this post edit is decdicated to all you ALL CAP HATERS!! get over it and just read the flippin post!!!!
Edit#2:This thread was taken way out of context there has been an extreme amount of negativity spawned from this post. I did not intend to offend and at the time of the orignal post I admitt I approached the topic in the wrong state of mind again my appologies and I want to express my apprreciation to all dev's and themers you guys kepp this sight going. . . Although I spoke-out before I thought, this EDIT is much needed.. Now if its not to much to ask let's move.. the last thing XDA need is another flame war.

Um, I see other posts (see MOONSSPOON's post in the Gloos/Aero port thread) where the original developer doesn't seem to mind the port. If you don't want people porting your work just say so, but I don't personally think the people porting are "pirates". They are just trying to help out because of all of the recent new releases.
I'm sure different theme developers have different opinions on this, just state in your original post if you don't want people using it. Though I have to say, if JF/Hakyro/etc all said "this is my work you can't use it" where would development be right now? That being the case though, I do think people should respect your request and not port it if that's what you want. Though it's going to be really silly if ports start showing up on torrent trackers lol. (come on you know that's funny)

big nu said:
To Whom It May Concern!!
you know who you are!!!
STOP! STOP! STOP! PORTING OVER THEMES THAT YOU DID'NT DEVELOPE WITH OUT ASKING PERMISSION FIRST THATS JUST DISRESPECTFULL!!! YOU HAVE 2 OPTIONS IN THIS SCENARIO WAIT FOR THE DEVELOPER TO PORT IT OVER OFFICIALLY OR (DRUMROLL PLEASE). . .MAKE YOUR OWN!!!!
AS FOR THOSE OF YOU FLASHING THESE THEMES KNOW ONE THING, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THESE "PIRATE-PORTERS" TO GIVE YOU AND OFFCIAL, 100%PRODUCT SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DID NOT CREATE IT!! SO ON THAT NOTE FLASH AT YOUR OWN RISK
HEY PIRATE-PORTERS!!! STOP CHOPPING UP PEOPLES WORK!!!
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1) All caps is never a way to get your point across effectively
2) As the above poster said, the unwritten rule around here is that yes, it's great to ask the developer first. If you don't, however, it's perfectly acceptable to just say "I ported _____s theme over to 1.5" as long as you're not taking credit for the original theme.
This community is based on collaboration, and as long as people give credit where it is due, it's ok (at least in my book).

Oh come on...
1. Please edit it to normal letters... you behave like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDDEhLw1PVI
2. I really dont like people porting themes and presenting them beeing their own, but there is nearly no one doing it. So please think before you post...

How many people do we need porting one theme is the problem,if the dev says its cool then fine but four and five people porting the same theme is bound to end up in a mess. I myself will port my own themes which all theme devs should be doing. It is not safe to have people who are just jumping into this porting themes and or creating them,its all fun till people start messing up there phones then the volume of threads and post will go up because people will need to know how to fix there phone. If the people porting don't have a good amount of experience then what happens then? its becomes another's person's problem to help them.
Food for thought.

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It is not safe to have people who are just jumping into this porting themes and or creating them...
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Isn't that exactally the idea?
[HOW TO]Manuals for creating a Theam
There's even a manual to show people how to get started. I think if you're on these forums and flashing your phone it's a given that you're taking a risk. That's what it's all about, if you don't want that risk you shouldn't be downloading stuff from here, use an application with themes on the market.
Everyone starts not knowing how to do it, it's a learning process.
Again, I think people shouldn't be stepping on the toes of the developer. I also think you should edit your post so that you don't claim to speak for all theme developers.
Well that's my $.02 anyway.

im with manup, if you make a theme for one version, its a lot easier to port it, then it is to make a whole new one.
Just be considerate and patient... let the Theme-Creator take his/her time to what they want...
im all for requests to port a theme to a certain version, and for the most part it gets done.

Who's porting manup's themes?

Porting is not creating if you are learning to create theme fine then create one. The guides are very basic they teach you how to get started if everyone could create themes they would just like the devs who create builds for the phone. The problem is if you want to mess up your phone fine but why risk others phones in your learning process? Dude's build and all the new builds have a bunch of extra icons how are you going about that?
It pains me to see people taking builds/themes chopping them up and putting them back together with very little knowledge of what's really going on in there. There is no way for someone porting a theme to know if there are any .xml edits or .jar edits like stericson is doing.

Ryanmo5 said:
Who's porting manup's themes?
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There was a request for a port to JF1.5 in the PS theme thread. I was going to post a port but didn't (at his request) and another poster said he had one that he wouldn't post.
I haven't seen one actually posted though. I assume this post was due to the request for the theme port.

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Don't worry bro thats a main reason we started this my themes cant be ported by anyone but me.

I kinda felt a little weird and a little scared to port all these old themes with new people all of the sudden taking other members themes and screwing and chopping them. I also would think the better choice is to maybe wait for the original theme creator to port it for whatever new update comes out. just to kinda keep things safe. Its cool to do it for your personal use or mess around a little with other people's ish but i personally wouldn't really want anyone messing with my themes if i was the creator. just my .02

My theme was ported without my permission, I didn't say anything because this is just my contribution back to the community. The only problem I see with other people porting themes is that they might leave stuff out. I'm still in the process of porting my Aero theme to 1.5, that will include everything that was from the other version plus more.

I think it's great to see people want themes so bad they are doing the port themselves BUT at the same time, I agree that it should be done by the dev. I put a lot of time into my themes, making sure everything is just right, before even posting I have one available. Over the last 2 or 3 months themes have become so much more intricate than just icon changes and a status bar change. And if you port one over but don't move everything over, it can ruin the overall appeal of the theme. Once everything settles down with the 1.5 builds then I'll start porting my own over, the first will be carbon, and like spikey, it'll have a lot more done to it, I'm basically only using the orignal icons and that's it.
Also with 1.5 the custom edits are a lot different, and it's taking time to get them out. Thanks to Stericson we're finally starting to get some available.
I don't think it's piracy, but also wouldn't want one of my themes ported and posted without my permission. I know it happens and we can't stop it from happening, but show a little respect and patience, devs want to make sure our initial ideas remain through all versions of our themes

let the authors go after people that port their work without permission...
are you the authors? Of course correct thing to do is ask them first hand. However, If nothing is said to these "pirates", then authors probably dont care, dont do the caring for them.

since everyone else has their two cents in here i'm gonna throw mine in too. i personally have no problem with people porting my work, but of course i expect credit for the theme itself, and if i find out the theme porter got a donation for the theme i will rip off his balls and shove them down his throat. i see why manup would be upset that people are porting his work, i would be willing to bet that if he is given credit then people will go to him and say something like "hi i was using your haykuro 1.5 port of your ninja theme and now my phone won't boot. can you tell me how to fix it?"(i used this example becasue i am pretty sure no one has ported it yet) if someone is going to port another's work i prefer the rule of don't touch it till you have permission. i see DVD's and CDs the same way, it's leagal to make a digital copy for personal use, but not to distribute, if you wanna port your favorite theme yourself for your personal phone then fine go ahead but you are responsible for the brick you end up with.
as a general rule unless the dev says it's ok just let them port the theme, you are more likely to get a full port if you wait for the dev to do it since they are the original creator and know what they changed. as to multiple people porting the same themes that needs to stop because people will get confused and i will not be able to contain myself when the threads start popping up the the dev forum "i bricked my phone after porting XXXXX theme"
(steps down off soapbox) that's just my opinion

zeezee said:
let the authors go after people that port their work without permission...
are you the authors? Of course correct thing to do is ask them first hand. However, If nothing is said to these "pirates", then authors probably dont care, dont do the caring for them.
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thanks for your input zeezee, but i work hand and hand w/ the author and he and i agreed on posting this thread.. fyi he's not the only one that isnt crazy about people porting other peoples work and w/ all the themes we have on this forum, and all the new builds that are out, this is a subject that needed to be clarified...

Hey hypocrites...do you see google posting to this board that we "ruined the consistency of there theme" or "don't want us to ruin our phones w/ hackware and then ask them questions when a jf/haykuro/dude port messed them up." NO, I didn't think so. You should be grateful someone likes your theme enough to port it. You don't own your theme...this is a community involved project (developing for this phone as a whole). You can't TM Or copyright a theme on a hacked phone and the notion that you would if you could is beyond me. Bottom line is if the credit is given to the origonal dev it should be ok....except for Manups (and that's only done out of respect). This thread has so far made me sick and I don't have a strong gag reflex.
Can you honestly imagine if more themers/devs thought this way? Xda wouldn't be!
Here's a motto to live by in this type of community setting. "Why write code twice" meaning if somethings out there you can improve on, use it giving credit where due...but WHY would you write it again....
MODS SHOULD CLOSE THIS THREAD...for obvious reasons, and before the fighting starts, like going against everything XDA even stands for.

I really appreciate all the hard work xda's theme developers do to create all these themes. I have absolutely no photoshop skills (never even used it) and haven't found the time to set up the resigning tool.
Whenever something has gone wrong with a custom theme, I never feel the need to bother theme developers. Anyone who has actually read through this forum should know common troubleshooting steps e.g. wipe, reflash, etc.
Keeping that in mind, there are many people who don't take the time to actually read threads around here, and regardless of who ports what, I would think that the questions will keep coming no matter what.
That said, I have a ported theme on my phone right now, and I really appreciate work done by a "pirate". like i said, i'm not set up right now to port themes on my own, and a "pirate" saved me a lot of time. He didn't have to share, but he did and i appreciate that. You can imagine the fuss that would be raised if someone was holding out on other members..
I'd rather be using a full theme, but what I want out of this theme is slightly modified, and I'm not sure if the theme dev will oblige me.
So big thanks to devs and pirates alike, i love the way my phone looks. Hopefully all of you will be able to work out all the important details and the community will continue to thrive!

knight4linux said:
Hey hypocrites...do you see google posting to this board that we "ruined the consistency of there theme" or "don't want us to ruin our phones w/ hackware and then ask them questions when a jf/haykuro/dude port messed them up." NO, I didn't think so. You should be grateful someone likes your theme enough to port it. You don't own your theme...this is a community involved project (developing for this phone as a whole). You can't TM Or copyright a theme on a hacked phone and the notion that you would if you could is beyond me. Bottom line is if the credit is given to the origonal dev it should be ok....except for Manups (and that's only done out of respect). This thread has so far made me sick and I don't have a strong gag reflex.
Can you honestly imagine if more themers/devs thought this way? Xda wouldn't be!
Here's a motto to live by in this type of community setting. "Why write code twice" meaning if somethings out there you can improve on, use it giving credit where due...but WHY would you write it again....
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Amen, brother.
Also, just curious if all of the theme devs actually designed their own artwork (all of it) or if they just took images from online and used them without permission regardless of copyright infringement? (and I know the overall answer.. because I see a LOT of copyrighted images in many themes, icon sets and backgrounds.) If I stole a bunch of Mickey Mouse(TM) artwork and made backgrounds, icon sets, etc.. I wouldnt really be able to complain about people stealing my theme, since I stole the images, right?
As far as being respectful, sure.. I can understand and agree with that, but if I make a theme and never port it to newer versions.. well, I would expect someone to go ahead and do it (if there was a demand for my theme). I would expect them to keep the theme name and give me credit for the original port. This is afterall, an open source community..
In the end, all you can do as a theme dev is attach a Readme.txt to your themes with you name, forum name, email address and other contact information and ask that people please do not port your theme without your permission.
Good luck enforcing the issue though..
Rick

[Q] Why not make a theme and stop making a duplicate ROM with a theme on it?

Ok, I'm properly going to get a lot of negative people on here telling me to go F$%K myself or whatever which will properly include the supposedly "developers" of these so called roms of the links below as well BUT I'm going to say it anyways!
What happened to all the creative developers on here? I mean I admire XxXViRuSXxX, Cyanogen and echoside to name a few BUT I think the rest need to step up their game because looking at other forums on here and is not even close to the quality of work! I'm not sure about everyone else on here because every time I think I got you guys figured out, I get surprised BUT I'm tired of seeing a CM7 ROM with a theme on it and being posted in the development section! Oh and is not only CM7 Roms....is Sense Roms as well with NOTHING to add or anything....is an exact copy of the freaking rom! I could understand if you made a change to something other then a freaking .png then I wouldn't be as mad but when you just switch out .png's and call yourself a developer...COME ON, that's BULL!!
Now I know what's coming (I hope..lol), you guys are going to say that I'm wrong and that I need to chill out BUT I would like for someone to explain these roms below to me.......BECAUSE they don't provide nothing special except a theme!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067648
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039921
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055623
I could pull up more but I think 3 was enough to prove my point.....
If you going to make a duplicate rom with a theme then do me and hopefully everyone else a favor and just make a .zip and post it in the themes and apps section because is getting OLD....it really is!
Oh and sorry for the rant but I just needed to get that off my chest....LOL

I agree to an extent
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Go F%$K YOURSELF!
LOL

Well, let us look at those three links you posted. You kind of lose your credibility by using those as your main argument.
Anyone with half a brain will realize that those threads look like failures. They barely have posts in them. People respond to the ROMs that interest them--and ROMs like that don't interest people, simple as that.
There's no way to just make people stop doing that, but it is quite obvious that the people who do that don't get many hits. They don't contribute anything, so people don't pay attention to them.
We have some amazing developers here, like Cyanogen, Virus, Myn, and so on. You said it yourself.
The development forums for the Evo are quite active, and so it is pretty obvious that you would have people who want to try to look like developers posting carbon copy ROMs.
I agree with you on the basic idea of the thread though; you aren't a ROM developer if you simply make a theme and throw some apps in. You're a theme developer. I would enjoy more creative and interesting ROMs, but I also at the same time feel that the Evo developer community delivers very well, and I'm glad we have all of the great developers we do.
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Good job sora. I've been telling you that for a while. Looks like you finally understand

Jmoney47 said:
Good job sora. I've been telling you that for a while. Looks like you finally understand
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I've always understood that. >=(

Tricky Tricky Android and your theming...

Why can't DEV'ing for an android be as easy as VB... Its got to go to C and shhtuf... Or even so, I used to make 'theme's' for my Blackberry Bold.... That was way easy... Even theming for ROM's is a lot to read up on... I wish I would have gotten more into Android before my daughter was born.. I am still trying to read up on Themeing using anything but Kitchen.. But it is complicated stuff...
Because I am planning on keeping my SII for a while... Does anyone have any tips for theming? Or know of somewhere I can catch some literature on it?

UntamedDeviance said:
Why can't DEV'ing for an android be as easy as VB... Its got to go to C and shhtuf... Or even so, I used to make 'theme's' for my Blackberry Bold.... That was way easy... Even theming for ROM's is a lot to read up on... I wish I would have gotten more into Android before my daughter was born.. I am still trying to read up on Themeing using anything but Kitchen.. But it is complicated stuff...
Because I am planning on keeping my SII for a while... Does anyone have any tips for theming? Or know of somewhere I can catch some literature on it?
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Check out some of M& S videos
And Google is your friend
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Go to themes and apps section. Master&slave has a few tutorials. Great dev and good guy
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Here.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506177

Thanks guys... I will have to check out some of his videos... I tried to Google the themeing side.... Some of the stuff I came across actually made it even more confusing for me... Haha, but I will check out those videos! Thanks!

Top current Roms?

Hey all,
I know this has probably been asked hundreds of times but...
I want to know what rom everyone is using that is non-ICS?
There are so many out there and I'm sure there are a few that aren't worth downloading.
Soo what rom does everyone recommend that is non-ICS.
Thanks!

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Hey all,
I know this has probably been asked hundreds of times but...
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Yup. But why not beat the horse a bit more, eh?
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There are so many out there and I'm sure there are a few that aren't worth downloading.
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Why would you say that? I'm sure the devs that put a ton of time and effort into cooking and posting the ROMs would love to hear that they "aren't worth downloading".
People have different needs and preferences, that's really the main difference. I've tried many different ROMs, and they are each awesome in different ways. Its unfair (and insulting) to say that a ROM is "not worth downloading".
This question gets asked a few times a week. Its not worth it being answered yet again. You've been an XDA member long enough to know to use the search function.

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Yup. But why not beat the horse a bit more, eh?
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I feel like I'm swinging the stick every time I hit that search button.
OP - Please, please, please use that search button.
Back to the matter at hand. I've always enjoyed CM7 for my stock fix. Mexdroid AIO (didn't really care for the new version) when I wanted something different. And finally I tried RevHD which was great for a Sense ROM.
I've been using ICS since T4z did his first port and haven't really looked back. Only thing I've been missing is the camera, and its not as big a deal.

quatro has working camera, or did I lost my mind .. ?
anyways, I asked the same thing a week ago, and I actually tried all of the "known", or should I say - popular roms, and this is my conclusion:
1. G-lite or G-slim. AOSP android expericence for speed. not so much good with OC which is a paradox by me, and people do not reccomend the OC (let's increase default speed, but do not temper with max speed, eh .. ? ) those are good "strpped" ROMS for freeing CPU&RAM. I dd not try the strpped CM7 verson as I dont like CM or MIUI (I prefer Andrody look more)
2. Virtuous Sense - for Sense experience. fully working ROM strpped of cr*p and fine tunned.
those are my favorites, but let's say that this is ALWAYS individual opinion, as I have read many people not liking these roms, and I tred 10 in one evening, giving every rom half an hour chance and I liked those 2 (3)
check out ths link, with again emphasizing that it is an individual experience:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376496

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Yup. But why not beat the horse a bit more, eh?
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Why would you say that? I'm sure the devs that put a ton of time and effort into cooking and posting the ROMs would love to hear that they "aren't worth downloading".
People have different needs and preferences, that's really the main difference. I've tried many different ROMs, and they are each awesome in different ways. Its unfair (and insulting) to say that a ROM is "not worth downloading".
This question gets asked a few times a week. Its not worth it being answered yet again. You've been an XDA member long enough to know to use the search function.
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I didn't really mean it in that way, I understand that the devs have done a great job and their work shouldn't get slated, but what I should have put is 'older' and I'm looking for something that is recent but not ICS (as I want the camera working now and also annoyed at the odd bug and gfx glitches)
Sorry for that, I also have searched but as above I want something recent, and there are so many I don't have the time to download them all.
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I feel like I'm swinging the stick every time I hit that search button.
OP - Please, please, please use that search button.
Back to the matter at hand. I've always enjoyed CM7 for my stock fix. Mexdroid AIO (didn't really care for the new version) when I wanted something different. And finally I tried RevHD which was great for a Sense ROM.
I've been using ICS since T4z did his first port and haven't really looked back. Only thing I've been missing is the camera, and its not as big a deal.
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As above.
Thanks though..
Igoritza said:
quatro has working camera, or did I lost my mind .. ?
anyways, I asked the same thing a week ago, and I actually tried all of the "known", or should I say - popular roms, and this is my conclusion:
1. G-lite or G-slim. AOSP android expericence for speed. not so much good with OC which is a paradox by me, and people do not reccomend the OC (let's increase default speed, but do not temper with max speed, eh .. ? ) those are good "strpped" ROMS for freeing CPU&RAM. I dd not try the strpped CM7 verson as I dont like CM or MIUI (I prefer Andrody look more)
2. Virtuous Sense - for Sense experience. fully working ROM strpped of cr*p and fine tunned.
those are my favorites, but let's say that this is ALWAYS individual opinion, as I have read many people not liking these roms, and I tred 10 in one evening, giving every rom half an hour chance and I liked those 2 (3)
check out ths link, with again emphasizing that it is an individual experience:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376496
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Yeah I know it's down to personal preference, just wondered what are the top roms that are 'good'
I'll check out those roms though, thanks.

I would highly recommend Virtuous G-lite or G2 slim, they are the simplest, most battery efficient ROMs for our phones but at the same time they're very fast. I've used every ROM for our devices except for a few Sense 3.* ones and the two i've recommended are the ones that i would still recommend each and every time that someone asks the question that you posed.

I am actually waiting for future development of ICS based ROM, cause Quattro is awesome (being the most stable ICS), and I tried it, but it has lots of bugs and crashes even like that. just the Dialer crashed 2 times for 1/2 hour testing, and there are some graphic screwups.
Virtuous is in hiatus, or we are in for a surprise, I guess. RC3 Quattro still isn't for everyday usage.

spooke said:
Yeah I know it's down to personal preference, just wondered what are the top roms that are 'good'
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Still completely missing the point. If you ask what ROMs are good, that implies the remaining are "not good" or "bad".
They are all good. Just for different reasons.
Better to ask for personal favorites. Or better yet just browse through the already bazillion other threads on the same topic. Many of which are very recent, so you need not worry about the recommendations being outdated.

Andromadus audacity, any virtuous rom, or cm if you like cm. They are all good. Pick your poison try a few out.
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Q. What is the best rom out there for our phones just got the note yesterday and is r

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Theres no such thing due to personal preference and ones needs vs others..its not to hard to spot the popular ones.

There is no such thing. The "best rom" is the one that you like the most, the one that works best with your phone.
All phones behave a bit differently with different roms, all users use them differently. fact.
If you're not willing to take the time to read the threads (the OP and at least the last 10 pages), try at least 2 roms for a day each, then you don't deserve to flash a recovery, imho.
xda is not a community that welcomes the lazy.
now, before you go getting all indignant and offended, realize that these threads get started all the time, usually by users that don't bother to read a sticky or the OP of a thread, or are unwilling to participate in the community in general. then a mod comes along and after several people reiterate the things I've said (with lesser or more degrees of politeness) and shuts it down. by your post/thanks count, I'm hoping you're not one of those.
so? get to flashing! good luck.
(looks like you caught me writing a novel, evolving. )

No bro I've been around just got the note yesterday, and wanted a little input in what roms are out there. Believe me I'm not one of those guys that ask the stupid questions if you feel me. I understand dif people what different things on their phones. Just had the S2 and over at S2 site they all kinds of roms and got familiar with some of devs., and I don't really know any of your guys work over here.
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kingdazy said:
There is no such thing. The "best rom" is the one that you like the most, the one that works best with your phone.
All phones behave a bit differently with different roms, all users use them differently. fact.
If you're not willing to take the time to read the threads (the OP and at least the last 10 pages), try at least 2 roms for a day each, then you don't deserve to flash a recovery, imho.
xda is not a community that welcomes the lazy.
now, before you go getting all indignant and offended, realize that these threads get started all the time, usually by users that don't bother to read a sticky or the OP of a thread, or are unwilling to participate in the community in general. then a mod comes along and after several people reiterate the things I've said (with lesser or more degrees of politeness) and shuts it down. by your post/thanks count, I'm hoping you're not one of those.
so? get to flashing! good luck.
(looks like you caught me writing a novel, evolving. )
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Im not kind enough to give as much info as you, especially after seeing this get asked so much here lately..kudos to you as it does help more than my one liner:highfive:
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No bro I've been around just got the note yesterday, and wanted a little input in what roms are out there. Believe me I'm not one of those guys that ask the stupid questions if you feel me. I understand dif people what different things on their phones. Just had the S2 and over at S2 site they all kinds of roms and got familiar with some of devs., and I don't really know any of your guys work over here.
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Devs here are top notch, and we have a good selection to choose from.

Many ROMS will have MA7/MC2 in the title if they are Touchwiz based, these roms are really smooth and a lot of them are themed heavily. I ran digiblur's rom for a while because it was the most stock looking, only the statusbar was changed. I really like the SlimRom and Carbon as far as CM goes, they are both very smooth and have great performance. I am downloading and flashing Liquidsmooth now. Be careful with the CM roms though as 4g has become and issue in the past couple updates. (Because of CM not the devs). They are working on it though so I am sure it will be fixed soon. I am not in a 4g area so I don't really care lol. Anyways like everyone said, the devs are great here and pretty much all the roms are outstanding and will be better than stock!