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Best ROM for Blackstone

What do you think is best ROM for Blackstone ?
What use you ?

I guess that depends very much on what you're looking for. Until you decide what it is you want, nobody is EVER going to give you the right answer.
For me, the best ROM is the one my device came with..it's stable and works. I have never felt the need to flash a new one, esp since just about every ROM I've ever read about has a problem in one way or another (even if it is fixed the next day)
Actually, I have to say that I'm always disappointed by the number of ROMS that come out....it seems that there's new ones almost every day. I appreicate that these are released to allow people to test and report back, but surely they should be restricted to a handful of beta testers perhaps?
ok..back in my box now...apologies

p-r-e-d-a-t-o-r said:
What do you think is best ROM for Blackstone ?
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The one that works best for you and best suits your individual needs.

if you dont want this thread closing i suggest you put a list of things you need require want and ask what meets your requirements. you have been warned!!!

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Hi
May I respectfully suggest you have a trawl through the Blackstone Rom threads and see what you like and as mentioned above what best suits you. Most of the topics have a change log or features log and screenshots to help you make your mind up.
Then read the Wiki to gather all the info needed to actually start changing to the ROM you find is best for you.
Regards

p-r-e-d-a-t-o-r said:
What do you think is best ROM for Blackstone ?
What use you ?
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I use Onkolog's and I'm very satisfied. In terms of speed it does not compare with the stock ROM, much faster. Very stable and quite Spartan, the way I like it. Hope this helps a bit more than most of the posts I've seen in this thread.

It depends on what you want.
Do you want a light, fast & probably stable ROM?
Or a heavy ROM with many programs on it?
Or between that?
I use dutty's 2.3 at the moment, but I don't use TF3D.
Take a look at what ROM's you want.
PS: the manila 3 is nice, so pick one with manila 3 and check out your new TF3D Look

In my case, after testing several realeased roms, I am using Dutty's 2.1. It is very satisfactory. I tried versions 2.2 and 2.3 but I don't particularly like the new start menu (I have a lot of programs installed and it doesn't suit my needs).
Try any of the versions (v2.xx) available at dutty's website. Any of them will amaze your relatives and friends.

I'm just surprised no MOD closed this thread!!
This is a common question with no answer as everyone is different so obviously everyones likes & dislikes will be different so no point asking which rom is better as what you may like, the next person won't!
Go into each rom thread, read up on them and flash whichever one appeals most to you. If you aren't happy, flash another!!
I've flashed countless rom's and I'm still searching for the perfect one!!

Go into each rom thread, read up on them and flash whichever one appeals most to you. If you aren't happy, flash another!!
I've flashed countless rom's and I'm still searching for the perfect one!!
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agrreee with yo Fallen Spartan, bravo!!
today it's perfect but tomorrow it's not

Fallen Spartan said:
I've flashed countless rom's and I'm still searching for the perfect one!!
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agree... at moment i´m using duttys v2.3... but also miri´s v5 is very nice...

What, no deleting threads?
I asked a similar question to this about 2 months ago, having just bought a Blackstone, and got a short, sharp message about searching instead of trying to start a conversation and engage people. The thread got deleted a few minutes later.
Glad this didn't happen to you, good luck choosing a ROM. People on this forum are very helpful and talented, but can be incredibly rude at times.

krs360 said:
I asked a similar question to this about 2 months ago, having just bought a Blackstone, and got a short, sharp message about searching instead of trying to start a conversation and engage people. The thread got deleted a few minutes later.
Glad this didn't happen to you, good luck choosing a ROM. People on this forum are very helpful and talented, but can be incredibly rude at times.
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I understand your comment, but if I can defend a few people on this site. Yes, some are rude and they generally get banned due to complaints....and rightly so. But others may have come across as rude but are infact actually good natured people who are just annoyed at getting asked the same questions day in.
As you said you asked the same question a few months ago and I can guarantee this same question has been asked dozens of other times. This is why we always ask people to read threads before posting new ones, and at the top of each forum included in the rules etc it also states this.
I try and be as helpful when I can and answer every query to the best of my knowledge, but I've also lost my cool once or twice.
My previous post in this thread is basically as much as anyone can offer on this subject.
Anyway, thats my two cents on the subject!!

Fallen Spartan said:
I understand your comment, but if I can defend a few people on this site. Yes, some are rude and they generally get banned due to complaints....and rightly so. But others may have come across as rude but are infact actually good natured people who are just annoyed at getting asked the same questions day in.
As you said you asked the same question a few months ago and I can guarantee this same question has been asked dozens of other times. This is why we always ask people to read threads before posting new ones, and at the top of each forum included in the rules etc it also states this.
I try and be as helpful when I can and answer every query to the best of my knowledge, but I've also lost my cool once or twice.
My previous post in this thread is basically as much as anyone can offer on this subject.
Anyway, thats my two cents on the subject!!
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Very well said. a) I too am surprised this didn't get closed. b) I agree, I don't think it's as much as people being rude but it gets annoying when the same questions are asked without using the search button.
and c) each ROM IS different. I've installed about a dozen different ROMs on my Blackstone and each one had their issues and/or benefits.
For the most part, I followed Dutty's ROMs but 2-3 weeks ago, I tried David's ROMs and though they're both great, I actually found an older ROM from David that I extremely liked when I disabled 3FTD. My phone is stable, extremely fast and has what I need in it.
It's very easy to get caught up "upgrading" ALL THE TIME. It seems that we all want the best and fastest ROM out there. Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect ROM out there that doesn't have some small issue and even if you found one with a minimal amount, you probably wouldn't like the amount (or lack of) programs in it.
I suggest you try several ROM's until you find a "style" that you like. After 3 years of upgrading ROM's (started back with a Razr) I can finally say I'm happy with the my current ROM and have no desire to upgrade.
So, start modding and good luck.
Mark

"It's very easy to get caught up "upgrading" ALL THE TIME. It seems that we all want the best and fastest ROM out there. Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect ROM out there that doesn't have some small issue and even if you found one with a minimal amount, you probably wouldn't like the amount (or lack of) programs in it.
I suggest you try several ROM's until you find a "style" that you like. "
Sound advice by Mark. I personally have tried most roms available as well - currently using Dutty 2.4 quite happy with it, I found the new Dutty version release slighty slower then the 2.4.

orangecrush said:
It's very easy to get caught up "upgrading" ALL THE TIME. It seems that we all want the best and fastest ROM out there. Unfortunately, there isn't a perfect ROM out there that doesn't have some small issue and even if you found one with a minimal amount, you probably wouldn't like the amount (or lack of) programs in it.
I suggest you try several ROM's until you find a "style" that you like. After 3 years of upgrading ROM's (started back with a Razr) I can finally say I'm happy with the my current ROM and have no desire to upgrade.
So, start modding and good luck.
Mark
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Agreed with riz157. Sound advice
But I think all that can be said on this has been! Could a MOD close this thread.
Cheers

HTC Blackstone Roms
i am still searching for the best one...

mcfly444 said:
i am still searching for the best one...
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Try Duttys HD Leo Holy Grail R0. I'm sure you will like it..
The only thing that misses in this beautiful rom is the languagepack

p-r-e-d-a-t-o-r said:
What do you think is best ROM for Blackstone ?
What use you ?
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Hello,the legal official rom . All cooked roms are full of bugs ...

1.56 stock rom

[Q] What ROM To Use?

I am ready to dive in with the Unrevoked3 method to root my Desire, I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although I am interested in what the whole ROM scene has to offer.
I presume that all my paid apps will still work as well?

i would stick to the rom you are using because if you have to ask that question, you haven't done enough research, if there was a single answer to what rom to use, then there wouldn't be so many around
so the final answer is, stick to the stock froyo that you've got already, there's nothing to be gained from other roms considering you didn't specify what it is you were looking for

Moved to Q&A as not development

bamboo12 said:
you haven't done enough research .. you didn't specify what it is you were looking for
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I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.

DroidBois said:
I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.
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Your way of research really puzzles me looking at the bold parts in your OP below.
I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although
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- Yes, you should be able to flash a custom rom, if you can follow the instructions.
- There is no comprehensive list, the number of rom's and the changes are to large to keep it up to date, or do you offer to create one
- suggestions will tell you to use rom a, b, s, or z, depending on the users preferences. The only thing you can do is to read the rom description, and start skimming and following the rom's which description you liked.
A thing you left out, and what is normally mentioned in a question like this, do you prefer sense or non-sense?
To finish: I use LeeDroiD V2.1 and I am happy with it, it's stable / reliable, and it's Sense based.
Now just wait for the OD, DeFrost, Pays, Cyanogen (just some examples) and other rom users to give there opinion,
and then decide

^^ pretty much what he said!!
No one can tell you what to use, only give their opinions. Ultimately you'll have to read the threads and just try the ROMs until you find one you're happy with. I've gone back to stock as it does what I need it to

i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
i guess it's like hazing for nerds.
seriously though, i'm gonna answer all your questions right here and now:
go with CM6. then download another one and try it. then download another one and try it. and then... come back here and tell us what your opinion is. you know, pay it forward and don't become one of those condescending dorks after you have figured it all out.
that is all. i'm going bowling with your father...

anotherdroid said:
i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
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Well, when you don't get out much and you don't have many friends.. We should be more sympathetic to 'special needs' people.
Anyway, I'm on AuraxTsense now (check my sig for full details). I like the concept of undervolting for extended battery life, however before I dive in to ROMs, what can cause damage? I will avoid overclocking ROMs for that reason, anything else to watch out for?
What's the advantage of Cyanogen over others? I also read that Modaco ROMs are designed with stability in mind.
Is there any way to back up settings to restore when switching ROMs? Or should I just back each one up with all my settings and use that?

In the last week or so I've tried at least
- Cyanogen
- PirateRUM
- Some PAYS Sense one
- OpenDesire
- ShadowSense
+ another 1 or 2 I forget now
with Alex-V's one still to try.
The main thing I'd say is:
- Do you want Sense?
- Do you want GApps and other fluff preinstalled?
Try them and see...
Personally
- I like OD but it needs the Sense music player
- CM has no market, and I have not worked out how cutdown it's GApps package yet to remove fluff

I have been using cyanogenmod 6 for a few days now.
And im not going anywere anytime soon
However, like they say, try em all

Aurax is rocking my boat right now although struggling to work out how to install Maps..
What do you like about Cyanogen?

The ui is good. It just works. Try out for yourself. Painless to install. Ohh and the battery performance is alot better then the stock rom
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM

faraon83 said:
Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM
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???
Wow you just dug up a 2yr old thread!!
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He needs 10 posts...
Dude... reply to the newer threads. At least november 2012.

[Q] Rooted Phone (YAY!).... Which ROM to use?!?!!?

I know this has probably been asked to death, but the suggested results returned nothing...
Did a titanium backup, and a rom manager backup Via clockwork..... But now i cannot decide on which ROM to use!
It also doesnt help that when im reading specs... i have NO idea what 70% of it means, so its hard to base my own decision. So.....
Which ROM do you use? What are its best features? Is it a noticeable difference from Stock to Custom? Are they buggy? I have so many questions, but dont wanna be a bother... So maybe if you could just give me benefits of the one you use, that would be great.
Thank you

So long as you've got your backup, just go ahead and try some of the roms that are out there. If you don't like a particular rom, flash another.
Personally I like the Sense based roms, I have tried others but I keep going back to Sense. I'm currently using InsertCoin which based on a Desire HD rom, small fonts compared to the Desire, but other features including Skins (themes), HTCSense.com phone finder (which doesn't always work).
Are you wanting to try a non Sense based rom? There are plenty out there to play with, MIUI, Cyanogen, Gingerbread roms too.

In this forum, there is a thread which compares all the available ROM's (I'll post the link once I find it)
As @UKseagull mentioned, try different ROM's , You might find a suitable one for you !

Jeeezus ****ing christ. There needs to be a sticky to say that a rom is a rom that YOU, the user must decide on. It is not about what we think, it is about what you think. Your own PERSONAL PREFERENCE!
This is prob the 10th thread this week about that same topic.

GoogleJelly said:
Jeeezus ****ing christ. There needs to be a sticky to say that a rom is a rom that YOU, the user must decide on. It is not about what we think, it is about what you think. Your own PERSONAL PREFERENCE!
This is prob the 10th thread this week about that same topic.
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Why are you so angry if someone asks a perfectly in place question?!
There are really many roms for the Desire, and I am _sure_ most of them are not stable.
So, if a newbee asks which rom should he try, an experienced flasher could point to the most stable rom. One with Sense, one without. This is very valuable information.
Why should EVERYBODY flash 10 roms before he/she finds a stable one?!
When I was flashing roms on my previous winmo phone, I was ALWAYS responding to such questions to my best knowledge.
And, yes, there are many same threads, because MANY people want to know about this and cannot find ANY info.
So, in short, either answer the man or shut up!

Sike-1 said:
I know this has probably been asked to death, but the suggested results returned nothing...
Did a titanium backup, and a rom manager backup Via clockwork..... But now i cannot decide on which ROM to use!
It also doesnt help that when im reading specs... i have NO idea what 70% of it means, so its hard to base my own decision. So.....
Which ROM do you use? What are its best features? Is it a noticeable difference from Stock to Custom? Are they buggy? I have so many questions, but dont wanna be a bother... So maybe if you could just give me benefits of the one you use, that would be great.
Thank you
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I'm using InsertCoin at the moment which is a ported HD ROM and seems really good. If you want to stick with non HD then LeeDroid is great.
Links to both in my signature.

sudkcoce said:
Why are you so angry if someone asks a perfectly in place question?!
There are really many roms for the Desire, and I am _sure_ most of them are not stable.
So, if a newbee asks which rom should he try, an experienced flasher could point to the most stable rom. One with Sense, one without. This is very valuable information.
Why should EVERYBODY flash 10 roms before he/she finds a stable one?!
When I was flashing roms on my previous winmo phone, I was ALWAYS responding to such questions to my best knowledge.
And, yes, there are many same threads, because MANY people want to know about this and cannot find ANY info.
So, in short, either answer the man or shut up!
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He's angry because it's like the 10th time people ask the same (stupid) question over and over again. In the development part you can find plenty of topics about roms. Some of them are stable, some of the are not, you can read it all in their specific thread. Read, read, read, that's all you have to do here. I'm a noob too and I've been reading like 4 weeks here before I decided to flash a certain rom (leedroid), and it works great.

It's a shame that XDA doesn't have a poll similar to the ZTE - which rom poll over at Modaco, a quick look and you can see which are the most popular roms in use at that point in time. http://android.modaco.com/content/z...omisation/329997/poll-what-rom-are-you-using/
The OP asked a question because they probably value advice from the more experienced rom flashers here , those that are willing to give advice will do so. Yes, rom choice is an individual preference but there's really no need for people to reply with derogatory comments, just ignore the thread and leave it to the others that are willing to help.

GoogleJelly said:
Jeeezus ****ing christ. There needs to be a sticky to say that a rom is a rom that YOU, the user must decide on. It is not about what we think, it is about what you think. Your own PERSONAL PREFERENCE!
This is prob the 10th thread this week about that same topic.
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decat said:
He's angry because it's like the 10th time people ask the same (stupid) question over and over again. In the development part you can find plenty of topics about roms. Some of them are stable, some of the are not, you can read it all in their specific thread. Read, read, read, that's all you have to do here. I'm a noob too and I've been reading like 4 weeks here before I decided to flash a certain rom (leedroid), and it works great.
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Read? Did you not READ where i said that the specs mean NOTHING cause i dont exactly understand what im "Getting" in a rom? Im pretty computer literate, and have only had my desire (or android in general), for maybe 3 weeks. This is all new to me. Ive sim unlocked and rooted thus far without confusion or asking for help.
Its just the specs. Theres so much **** in them that i dont understand that its hard to pick one. Intimidating sorta.
Thanks to all that helped. I think im going to try leedroid. Its sense based, which i like over vanilla from what ive seen.

I come from LeeDroid which is an awesome Sense ROM. Currently though I use Redux which is senseless. What can I say, I like it minimalistic. I also prefer to decide myself what apps should be installed on -my- phone.
I wish Lee came out with a clean AOSP build... Or I figured out how to use his kernel and build my own.
Anyway good luck.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I've been using LeeDroid for several months now with no issues at all. If you check his minisite out, he lists all the apps you can safely remove from the zip prior to flashing without damaging it. That way you are only installing the bare minimum required to run a Sense ROM and you then just add the bits you want.
Personally I only run a Sense ROM because I like the HTC dialer, clock and phonebook over the vanilla Android ones. I use launcher pro which just seems to be snappier than Sense with more customising options.

Deifyed said:
I come from LeeDroid which is an awesome Sense ROM. Currently though I use Redux which is senseless. What can I say, I like it minimalistic. I also prefer to decide myself what apps should be installed on -my- phone.
I wish Lee came out with a clean AOSP build... Or I figured out how to use his kernel and build my own.
Anyway good luck.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I have the same experience.
Started with Lee (runs flawlessly) and then wanted ginger rom so switched to Redux - very satisfied

Sike-1 said:
I think im going to try leedroid. Its sense based, which i like over vanilla from what ive seen.
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Mine is almost two months old and I flashed a rom for the first time last week.
Leedroid runs great but as said earlier it all depends on personal preferences, I also installed Launcher Pro cause i like it more compared to the stock dock etc.
Good luck!

GingerVillian is my recommend
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Why JB when ICS is not working at all? :(

Hi all
I know that maybe this post will be removed, but until there, I'm wondering why are some of us trying to move on to JB when the current attempts to put ICS working on our Desire aren't yet succeded?
Does it worth?
Thanks to all

I strongly agree with. Not to disrespect the developers but going to point b when point a is not working properly is not a smart thing to do.
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JB is more like a minor release than ICS. Almost all was fixed in ICS rom but camera and h/w acceleration video decoding. This bugs are not easy to fix, they requires new drivers writen from zero and there is no more a 'camera' developer on that. In fact JB for now has the same problems (and few others) but for a month of development is promising better than ICS. We all hope someone will obtain a full working camera/video, but until now this problem remains in both 4.* branch
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carval2k said:
Hi all
I know that maybe this post will be removed, but until there, I'm wondering why are some of us trying to move on to JB when the current attempts to put ICS working on our Desire aren't yet succeded?
Does it worth?
Thanks to all
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Strongly disagree with you or at least with the choice of words. I've been using ICS on my desire since March and don't even look at sense or GB for me everything always worked perfectly so how can you say that it's not working camera, video and everything else is working for me, so have you even tried any ICS rom lately?
And yep JB is minor update but I've put JB on my bros desire and its working almost better than ICS at least the speed of opening apps, do I think developers see more potential working on JB
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On ICS, beside the force-close errors, the GPS not working, issues with Wi-fi/3G and some other minor issues that does not works on this ICS, and works perfectly on CM7.1...
About the choice of words... I'm not english, sorry for that

JB
What do you mean???
If you like to be on the bleeding edge then be here on the xda forums
as JB is the latest bleeding edge thats why Im on pre-Alpha JB and it works grate
No vidoe and no camera, but how uses that anyway :cyclops:

I have to say that i kinda really dont like ICS. But DK, Sandvold and Nikez all have it pretty much as good as its gona get and all can be used as a everyday rom so fair play to them. About JB.. well that is definitly coming on fast, just look at Nikez's work. So my point is why complain? If it was'nt for devs trying to port things to the desire we would all be stuck on a bog standard Desire or all probably baught a new phone by now. Be greatfull for their work and efforts.
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Strongly disagree with you or at least with the choice of words. I've been using ICS on my desire since March and don't even look at sense or GB for me everything always worked perfectly so how can you say that it's not working camera, video and everything else is working for me, so have you even tried any ICS rom lately?
And yep JB is minor update but I've put JB on my bros desire and its working almost better than ICS at least the speed of opening apps, do I think developers see more potential working on JB
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Have to disagree with you on this one. JB is a Major update. Hence the Project Butter, I believe this is the only thing iOS got better than Android. so if this will works then we will finally put that bad apple to the ground

I'm not complaining about this amazing work of all devs here! I'm very thankful to all them. I just let my opinion about, in my opinion, good work to do.
Being or not being on the bleeding edge it's not a priority for me. I use technology to help me on my daily work and not just to say that I've this or that gadget. I prefer and in fact I need a fully working device with a older version rather than the latest no working...
About the camera and video, I agree at all... I can't say the same about the GPS and wi-fi/3G swapping/issues... For now I'll be running the best ever made ROM for Desire: CM7.1

bjarkimg said:
as JB is the latest bleeding edge thats why Im on pre-Alpha JB
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And that's why noone with a grain of salt in his head takes your advices for grantedl.

bjarkimg said:
Have to disagree with you on this one. JB is a Major update. Hence the Project Butter, I believe this is the only thing iOS got better than Android. so if this will works then we will finally put that bad apple to the ground
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Well if JB was major update it would not then be 4.1 and would be 5.0 from development point of view and if it was major update Nikez and other devs wouldn't be progressing as fast as they are now.
But if you take project butter then yep it is pretty major change between having laggy UI and smooth UI as they finally figured out how this can be achieved
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jmcclue said:
I have to say that i kinda really dont like ICS. But DK, Sandvold and Nikez all have it pretty much as good as its gona get and all can be used as a everyday rom so fair play to them. About JB.. well that is definitly coming on fast, just look at Nikez's work. So my point is why complain? If it was'nt for devs trying to port things to the desire we would all be stuck on a bog standard Desire or all probably baught a new phone by now. Be greatfull for their work and efforts.
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well for my part I love these posts, then I can get up to 10 posts and start nagging on the developers threads :laugh::laugh:
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gie62001 said:
Well if JB was major update it would not then be 4.1 and would be 5.0 from development point of view and if it was major update Nikez and other devs wouldn't be progressing as fast as they are now.
But if you take project butter then yep it is pretty major change between having laggy UI and smooth UI as they finally figured out how this can be achieved
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Yes agreed, but I think they are just modest
Im just surprised apple did not patent "Smooth UI" or did they maybe
Since they did this cracy patent for internet search result thus making Google Now need to be "not as smart as it could be"...
*Working link
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...8,086,604.PN.&OS=PN/8,086,604&RS=PN/8,086,604
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carval2k said:
I'm not complaining about this amazing work of all devs here! I'm very thankful to all them. I just let my opinion about, in my opinion, good work to do.
Being or not being on the bleeding edge it's not a priority for me. I use technology to help me on my daily work and not just to say that I've this or that gadget. I prefer and in fact I need a fully working device with a older version rather than the latest no working...
About the camera and video, I agree at all... I can't say the same about the GPS and wi-fi/3G swapping/issues... For now I'll be running the best ever made ROM for Desire: CM7.1
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Then why not just stick to STOCK ?..

Devs being devs will try and push the boundaries. That's what they do. You can't stop them for doing what they do no matter how pointless it is for you. They are in it for their enjoyment and noobs and instability freaks are just here for the ride.
My Desire is still on Gingerbread and I would probably not try ICS or JB roms on it until it has "Stable" labeled on it at least. (Which probably not gonna happen tbh)
Near stable, pretty stable, almost stable, kinda stable, 90% stable does not equal to "stable"(no matter how many recommendations people here say about a certain rom). That's not going to cut it for me. I don't wanna be in a situation where I suddenly have a bsod, a reboot, signal loss, or system freeze during an emergency situation because I want the bleeding edge in technology installed on my phone.

stankyou said:
Devs being devs will try and push the boundaries. That's what they do. You can't stop them for doing what they do no matter how pointless it is for you. They are in it for their enjoyment and noobs and instability freaks are just here for the ride.
My Desire is still on Gingerbread and I would probably not try ICS or JB roms on it until it has "Stable" labeled on it at least. (Which probably not gonna happen tbh)
Near stable, pretty stable, almost stable, kinda stable, 90% stable does not equal to "stable"(no matter how many recommendations people here say about a certain rom). That's not going to cut it for me. I don't wanna be in a situation where I suddenly have a bsod, a reboot, signal loss, or system freeze during an emergency situation because I want the bleeding edge in technology installed on my phone.
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Honestly, I doubt I could say this any better. I'd troll a bit moar maybe

bjarkimg said:
well for my part I love these posts, then I can get up to 10 posts and start nagging on the developers threads :laugh::laugh:
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Yes agreed, but I think they are just modest
Im just surprised apple did not patent "Smooth UI" or did they maybe
Since they did this cracy patent for internet search result thus making Google Now need to be "not as smart as it could be"...
*Working link
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...8,086,604.PN.&OS=PN/8,086,604&RS=PN/8,086,604
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Then why not just stick to STOCK ?..
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Well... Of course I can still run on stock ROM, but... That one is to old, to slow and even to feature less in some things. Being on the edge as it price (mistakes and lots of errors). CM7.1 is much better than stock ROM, and even better if compared with all ICS/JB attempts...
Thanks for the remark

Pretty sure the .1 release JB has over ICS is worth it for the (when working) project butter - ie smoothness from gpu/hwa not just the cpu.

gie62001 said:
Strongly disagree with you or at least with the choice of words. I've been using ICS on my desire since March and don't even look at sense or GB for me everything always worked perfectly so how can you say that it's not working camera, video and everything else is working for me, so have you even tried any ICS rom lately?
And yep JB is minor update but I've put JB on my bros desire and its working almost better than ICS at least the speed of opening apps, do I think developers see more potential working on JB
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bjarkimg said:
What do you mean???
If you like to be on the bleeding edge then be here on the xda forums
as JB is the latest bleeding edge thats why Im on pre-Alpha JB and it works grate
No vidoe and no camera, but how uses that anyway :cyclops:
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For all of you flashing with greatness of ICS and JB on Desire, just take a look at General and Q&A sections most problems are with 4.0 branch.
You just have to realize that if you want that fully working don't upgrade your software, upgrade your phone...

nlooooo said:
just take a look at General and Q&A sections most problems are with 4.0 branch.
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I'd ban that. No asking for help using beta software.

nlooooo said:
For all of you flashing with greatness of ICS and JB on Desire, just take a look at General and Q&A sections most problems are with 4.0 branch.
You just have to realize that if you want that fully working don't upgrade your software, upgrade your phone...
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Duh...

erklat said:
I'd ban that. No asking for help using beta software.
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+1.
The right way is to go to the thread and ask for help if you need.
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carval2k said:
Duh...
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You also have to accept the fact that when you loose the official support you loose the most of the thing. I don't wanna say that our developers ain't great, they are, but for most of them it's just something to do in their spare time and they (probably ) have their own private life, they don't live on XDA...

Q. What is the best rom out there for our phones just got the note yesterday and is r

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Theres no such thing due to personal preference and ones needs vs others..its not to hard to spot the popular ones.

There is no such thing. The "best rom" is the one that you like the most, the one that works best with your phone.
All phones behave a bit differently with different roms, all users use them differently. fact.
If you're not willing to take the time to read the threads (the OP and at least the last 10 pages), try at least 2 roms for a day each, then you don't deserve to flash a recovery, imho.
xda is not a community that welcomes the lazy.
now, before you go getting all indignant and offended, realize that these threads get started all the time, usually by users that don't bother to read a sticky or the OP of a thread, or are unwilling to participate in the community in general. then a mod comes along and after several people reiterate the things I've said (with lesser or more degrees of politeness) and shuts it down. by your post/thanks count, I'm hoping you're not one of those.
so? get to flashing! good luck.
(looks like you caught me writing a novel, evolving. )

No bro I've been around just got the note yesterday, and wanted a little input in what roms are out there. Believe me I'm not one of those guys that ask the stupid questions if you feel me. I understand dif people what different things on their phones. Just had the S2 and over at S2 site they all kinds of roms and got familiar with some of devs., and I don't really know any of your guys work over here.
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kingdazy said:
There is no such thing. The "best rom" is the one that you like the most, the one that works best with your phone.
All phones behave a bit differently with different roms, all users use them differently. fact.
If you're not willing to take the time to read the threads (the OP and at least the last 10 pages), try at least 2 roms for a day each, then you don't deserve to flash a recovery, imho.
xda is not a community that welcomes the lazy.
now, before you go getting all indignant and offended, realize that these threads get started all the time, usually by users that don't bother to read a sticky or the OP of a thread, or are unwilling to participate in the community in general. then a mod comes along and after several people reiterate the things I've said (with lesser or more degrees of politeness) and shuts it down. by your post/thanks count, I'm hoping you're not one of those.
so? get to flashing! good luck.
(looks like you caught me writing a novel, evolving. )
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Im not kind enough to give as much info as you, especially after seeing this get asked so much here lately..kudos to you as it does help more than my one liner:highfive:
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Milton1964 said:
No bro I've been around just got the note yesterday, and wanted a little input in what roms are out there. Believe me I'm not one of those guys that ask the stupid questions if you feel me. I understand dif people what different things on their phones. Just had the S2 and over at S2 site they all kinds of roms and got familiar with some of devs., and I don't really know any of your guys work over here.
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Devs here are top notch, and we have a good selection to choose from.

Many ROMS will have MA7/MC2 in the title if they are Touchwiz based, these roms are really smooth and a lot of them are themed heavily. I ran digiblur's rom for a while because it was the most stock looking, only the statusbar was changed. I really like the SlimRom and Carbon as far as CM goes, they are both very smooth and have great performance. I am downloading and flashing Liquidsmooth now. Be careful with the CM roms though as 4g has become and issue in the past couple updates. (Because of CM not the devs). They are working on it though so I am sure it will be fixed soon. I am not in a 4g area so I don't really care lol. Anyways like everyone said, the devs are great here and pretty much all the roms are outstanding and will be better than stock!