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After flashing, re flashing and re re flashing so many times.... now atleast i have gone bored of the HTC Desire. This is mainly because there are not many good quality apps specially games. I am no Apple fanboy but the app store is something that android doesnt looks like achieving pretty soon.
The main things i like in HTC Desire are as following:-
1) Wifi Hotspot. WOW! thats so cool
2) being able to customize it as u want it to with widgets.
3) FRIENDSTREAM WIDGET its simply awesome
4) weather animations
Thats all.
The major things i dont like are:-
1) Camera. its just ok, not that good.
2) battery.... it drains battery as if its hungry all the time
3) no good games/apps
So what do you have to say? Are you still happy with the Desire or are you planning to go with something else?
As far as i am concerned i have decided to sell it very soon.... but wifi hotspot feature is what i love the most.
If you want to play games get a DS
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Angry Birds, Doodle Jump, Abducted, Alchemy... they are the best games I've installed on my phone
Kept me busy for a good while!
On top of that there's all the emulators - now they aren't so hot for action (but probably better with wiimote add in) games, but for some others they work just fine!
I love my Desire - before that I had the WM HTC Touch HD, now that has a serious lack of games... the best I found was solitaire or ScummVM...
I have to agree, there are not so many really good games in the market right now. But I'm sure this will change. Many surveys etc. suggest more and more developers of mobile application and games are considering developing for android, and seeing as the number of android phones rises continually I think the growing market will attract more and more developers. So I guess you just have to hang in there untill then
Yes I agree there are few game the ones u listed. But they completed and then what after that? Same boring things. When will we have more stuff. Android platform is awesome but.....
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sparkyxda said:
If you want to play games get a DS
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We take a multimedia phone so that we have everything in it. Isn't it?
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We take a multimedia phone so that we have everything in it. Isn't it?
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good point, but as you said its a multimedia phone, emphasis being on a phone, you say there are no good games but what are you comparing this too? a ds? a psp? these are dedicated gaming machines and therefore will always have the upper hand, as other mobile platforms go the games on android are quite good, just check out the gameloft HD series and others like NFS Shift
Rooting and installing a custom ROM is the answer, that is what makes the desires one of the best PDA's on the market nowadays even better than the iPhone I would say.
I have been an iPhone user for the last 2 years I just love how many more things I can do with my desire.
And if the battery issue is a problem try custom kernels, they work great
have tried custom roms... almost all good ones. but the battery problem still persists. actually by reading at various sites like engadget i came to know that the battery drain problem is actually of android os itself. hmmmm....
I was happy until the random reboots started and I cannot send it to service so I am stuck at using it as rare as possible since every time I use it to much it reboots and then gets stuck at the white HTC screen and I have to reinstall the ROM to be able to boot again.
I like(d) it alot, and am thinking of getting another Desire. Or getting a completely different company device. Still confused
Battery drain is not a problem at all. Just compare to other os and you'll see that the situation is better on Android os due to custom kernels and cpu dynamic speed adjusting.
I agree with the battery drain issue, and the touch feeling of screen is not better than IP4
lots of nice games on android you just need to know how to hunt them
with froyo the touch responsiveness is equal to the iphone 4, SLCD desire is pretty close to IP4 screen quality too, a little less density but better colors, the IP4 screen is also much closer to the surface which is nice but ours is a little bigger
my fav game is asphalt 5 but i keep loosing my save game due to messing with my rom
another very impressive game i'm hooked at is panzer panic
also minisquadron, hyperjump, meteor blitz, heavy gunner, backbreaker, need for speed shift and hero of sparta all very impressive
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have tried custom roms... almost all good ones. but the battery problem still persists. actually by reading at various sites like engadget i came to know that the battery drain problem is actually of android os itself. hmmmm....
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I am atm using Deforst with 1113 HAVS kernel and setin SetCpu to 1113 MHZ and I can tell you my battery life is much much better than when running stock froyo
one more thing i'm taking great pictures with the default camera app, you just need to know how to handle it's settings, for example i set sharpness to -2 which removes all the digital treatment ie over sharpness, also set colors and brightness + 1 and of course choosing correcting ISO at night
people are often just blindly impressed by the iphone 4 pics but compare them side by side and you will notice horrible performance at night from the iphone 4 and horrible of noise even at indoor daylight, even the colors produced by the iphone 4 camera are unreal
only two wins for the iphone 4 cam for me, the flawless 720p and HDR
If you really want them in a phone buy and iPhone 4 and jailbreak it for the WiFi hotspot?
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ste1164 said:
If you really want them in a phone buy and iPhone 4 and jailbreak it for the WiFi hotspot?
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did i read it for real or am i dreaming!!! wifi hotspot can be achieved in the iphone!! thats cool does it works with 3gs too?
ahhhh but then there is no bluetooth. iBluetooth... i used it when i had 3g... but thats no good at all.
desire is still good. but just now had a look at winphone 7 devices. awesomeness redefined
i am a fairly heavy user and get 2 days worth of battery out of mine, if i dont use wifi i am on 3 days. The iphone4 is just as hungry when it comes to battery
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i am a fairly heavy user and get 2 days worth of battery out of mine, if i dont use wifi i am on 3 days. The iphone4 is just as hungry when it comes to battery
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oh REALLY!!!! i dont get more than 1 day... even i have to charge 2-3 times a day. well... very soon, maybe, i will get a new phone. maybe windows phone 7. but it has lots of limitations just like iphone....
lets see.... what happens
to the point where I'm thinking of returning my Galaxy Nexus. The phone is beautiful and slick but I can't deal with the battery life. I'm especially worried for when I go back to my University next week because I'm not sure if the phone would last while I'm going from class to class from 9 AM to 5 PM everyday and most rooms having low to no reception.
Before this phone I had the HTC Thunderbolt with the extended battery and it could last me the whole day while I was going from class to class and under heavy and constan usage (to the point where I never had to bother monitering it or caring about the battery). I would have auto-brightness on, GPS, Google Latitude, use Facebook app freeling, have Google+ uploading my pics as soon as they were taken, use Pulse, and be ALWAYS connected to 4G without worrying about the battery life.
Now with the Galaxy Nexus I'm forced to turn down my brightness, turn off GPS, turn off Latitude (you can see where this is going. Pretty much opposite of Thunderbolt), uninstall Facebook and disable Google+, minimize my usage, and use Wifi whenever possible to get through a few hours. I even uninstalled Google Voice today to see if that makes any difference. Really? Why am I crippling my smartphone? Why should I have to turn off 4G on a 4G phone to save battery?
I'm obviously an idiot for comparing a Thunderbolt that has an extended battery (2,750 mAh) with the Galaxy Nexus that has a normal battery (1,850 mAh). It's also my fault for trying to believe that battery technology would improve in about a year especially after the horrible battery life from the Thunderbolt; I thought that people would learn from other's mistakes. I thought that the Galaxy Nexus, Google's new and precious baby, would fix the woes from previous phones.
I've been following a ton of forums to find out if there's a fix and I've done a bunch of stuff (disable Google+, uninstall Facebook, etc) but there's barely a difference. Some people are suggesting that an update will come along to fix the battery but I'm tired of hearing that excuse. A software fix will only do so much. And 4.0.3 has been announced for a quite a while from Google. Why hasn't this phone been update to 4.0.3? Why did Google halt it from the Nexus S? Is there something that's running down the battery even more with that update? I don't want to go off topic but I just hate being kept in the dark and not understanding what is going on.
Here I am now typing this as I'm looking at my Thunderbolt while it charges. I'm planning on trying out a few ICS ROMs to see how they go. I'm just tired of second guessing myself. The Galaxy Nexus is a beautiful device, both software and hardware wise; the camera may not be the best but I love it's speed and ICS is just sleek as F. But I can't fully enjoy the phone with the mediocre battery life that I am getting.
I suggest stock 4.0.2 with ogdobber's jamesbond kernel which only has undervolt open and the gpu oc'ed. Probably need to turn off lte and stick to the CDMA. 3g CDMA isn't fast but it is passable and battery efficient.
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even if battery tech does drastically increase 1750 mah will ALWAYS still be 1750mah it may take up less space or create less heat.. Mah is a measurement of milliamperes per hour
Try Paul O'Brien's excellent MoDaCo ROM - very impressive battery life and for $9 you get access to the kitchen. There's an update due today which will fix a flaky call issue.
Alternatively, hang on for 4.0.3 which is likely to bring some decent battery life improvements and bug fixes (though wouldn't surprise me if it's out for the Galaxy S2 first). I used to get 2-3 days of heavy use from my SGS2, get one of those and wait for ICS if you want better battery.
And a last alternatively... shove one of these in your bag:
http://www.firebox.com/product/2692/Pebble-Portable-Charger
If your in places with no reception, put the thing in airplace mode or disable mobile data.
This phone gives me the best battery life vs my last 4 phones,... HTC hero, htc evo, Nexus s, and htc evo 3d...
Get an external battery. Since you are in uni I suppose you will be carrying around a bag anyway so it won't be too inconvenient to lug around. Just leave your phone charging during lunch and it should last the rest if the afternoon.
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Go into your sstem/app folder and take off apps that you don't use. EVERYTHING you don't use. if you take a trip to that folder you're gonna see a lot of **** that you didn't know was there.
Do some cleaning and you should be fine with your normal usage. Also, try to flash a kernel so you can customize the governors and allow the phone to sleep more efficiently.
Coming from a thunderbolt, you should know how horrible battery life is for ANY stock android device...
There's no need to gimp your smartphone. I fluffing hate it when people say "just disable 4g, 3g, take auto-sync off, turn brightness all the way down, and only surf the web with wifi"
WHAT? WHY THE **** DID I BUY A 4G SMARTPHONE THEN IF I'M ONLY GONNA USE IT AS JUST A PHONE?
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Also to put it in context...I'm using the epic 4g and I still have the stock 1500 mAh battery and the only time I lasted more than 4 hours on stock without having to charge was with a gngerbread leak.
But after a couple days of devs getting dirty and taking the time to clean up, your battery should last exponentially longer since people will have figured out what exactly drains the batter and how to stop it.
On the epic, it was the DRM. **** always ran in the background, then someone discovered it and about a month later it became so irrelevant since all the devs knew what code to get the drm to stfu until you needed it
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Go into your sstem/app folder and take off apps that you don't use. EVERYTHING you don't use. if you take a trip to that folder you're gonna see a lot of **** that you didn't know was there.
Do some cleaning and you should be fine with your normal usage. Also, try to flash a kernel so you can customize the governors and allow the phone to sleep more efficiently.
Coming from a thunderbolt, you should know how horrible battery life is for ANY stock android device...
There's no need to gimp your smartphone. I fluffing hate it when people say "just disable 4g, 3g, take auto-sync off, turn brightness all the way down, and only surf the web with wifi"
WHAT? WHY THE **** DID I BUY A 4G SMARTPHONE THEN IF I'M ONLY GONNA USE IT AS JUST A PHONE?
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Lol lay off the nerd 'roids. It like leaving all the lights on and air conditioning in your house and wondering why the bill is so high. It's like a lot of people are expecting their smartphone to automatically be efficient. Get a bigger gas tank if you need to run a marathon. Otherwise sprint efficiently with what you have.
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Lol lay off the nerd 'roids. It like leaving all the lights on and air conditioning in your house and wondering why the bill is so high. It's like a lot of people are expecting their smartphone to automatically be efficient. Get a bigger gas tank if you need to run a marathon. Otherwise sprint efficiently with what you have.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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Hah.. fallout new Vegas Nerd Rage perk. STR to Max and screen-on drain resistance +50% when battery falls below 20%.
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David Horn said:
(though wouldn't surprise me if it's out for the Galaxy S2 first).
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What
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Game4set said:
to the point where I'm thinking of returning my Galaxy Nexus. The phone is beautiful and slick but I can't deal with the battery life. I'm especially worried for when I go back to my University next week because I'm not sure if the phone would last while I'm going from class to class from 9 AM to 5 PM everyday and most rooms having low to no reception.
Before this phone I had the HTC Thunderbolt with the extended battery and it could last me the whole day while I was going from class to class and under heavy and constan usage (to the point where I never had to bother monitering it or caring about the battery). I would have auto-brightness on, GPS, Google Latitude, use Facebook app freeling, have Google+ uploading my pics as soon as they were taken, use Pulse, and be ALWAYS connected to 4G without worrying about the battery life.
Now with the Galaxy Nexus I'm forced to turn down my brightness, turn off GPS, turn off Latitude (you can see where this is going. Pretty much opposite of Thunderbolt), uninstall Facebook and disable Google+, minimize my usage, and use Wifi whenever possible to get through a few hours. I even uninstalled Google Voice today to see if that makes any difference. Really? Why am I crippling my smartphone? Why should I have to turn off 4G on a 4G phone to save battery?
I'm obviously an idiot for comparing a Thunderbolt that has an extended battery (2,750 mAh) with the Galaxy Nexus that has a normal battery (1,850 mAh). It's also my fault for trying to believe that battery technology would improve in about a year especially after the horrible battery life from the Thunderbolt; I thought that people would learn from other's mistakes. I thought that the Galaxy Nexus, Google's new and precious baby, would fix the woes from previous phones.
I've been following a ton of forums to find out if there's a fix and I've done a bunch of stuff (disable Google+, uninstall Facebook, etc) but there's barely a difference. Some people are suggesting that an update will come along to fix the battery but I'm tired of hearing that excuse. A software fix will only do so much. And 4.0.3 has been announced for a quite a while from Google. Why hasn't this phone been update to 4.0.3? Why did Google halt it from the Nexus S? Is there something that's running down the battery even more with that update? I don't want to go off topic but I just hate being kept in the dark and not understanding what is going on.
Here I am now typing this as I'm looking at my Thunderbolt while it charges. I'm planning on trying out a few ICS ROMs to see how they go. I'm just tired of second guessing myself. The Galaxy Nexus is a beautiful device, both software and hardware wise; the camera may not be the best but I love it's speed and ICS is just sleek as F. But I can't fully enjoy the phone with the mediocre battery life that I am getting.
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Battery lasts me all day on the GSM version.
Folks, powering an extra radio uses extra power.
Moreover, the longer your data connection stays active, the longer your radio is active which is an even bigger drain. Since the LTE Gnexus devices are powering 2 radios (CDMA *and* LTE) simultaneously, and the second radio isn't as efficient as the standard radio that's part of the SoC package, this means that you need to ration your data usage if you want your battery to last.
Again, on the GSM version this isn't an issue because the radio is built into the SoC from the ground up, as well as it being only a single active radio at a time (GSM *or* UMTS/HSPA).
Software updates won't change that. It's a matter of physics. The LTE version may see some improvements here and there, but no software will counteract the effects of having to power 2 radios constantly.
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Lol lay off the nerd 'roids. It like leaving all the lights on and air conditioning in your house and wondering why the bill is so high. It's like a lot of people are expecting their smartphone to automatically be efficient. Get a bigger gas tank if you need to run a marathon. Otherwise sprint efficiently with what you have.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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Lol its definitely not like that. Its more like buying a new eco lightbulb that you use just like your old lightbulb but your bill is $80 more. Wut? LOL
But nah my epic 4g lasts me the whole day with 4g on (no access to wifi :[ ), auto-sync for gmail (i don't use facebook so its always the first app to go), blah blah blah. The only time battery is a problem is if I'm in a no sprint zone and forget to make my phone roam. Other than that, its used as a smartphone with 3+ hours of screen on time (voodoo color allowsyou to edit the gamm values and what not so its able to sip less power for the same brightness if that makes sense)
Seriously, root your phone and if stock is your thing, just install a custom kernel. Kernels handle the voltages and frequencies andhow your phone interacts with certain things so a custom kernel will almost ALWAYS have been optimized over stock. You will probably see a muc better result if you flash a ROM and Kernel, simply because custom roms are made to work without all the extra **** running in the background that no one wants
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Originally Posted by David Horn
(though wouldn't surprise me if it's out for the Galaxy S2 first).
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Willing to stick my neck out and bet that we see 4.0.3 with all the Touchwiz toys out before the 4.0.3 update from Google.
A_Flying_Fox said:
Go into your sstem/app folder and take off apps that you don't use. EVERYTHING you don't use. if you take a trip to that folder you're gonna see a lot of **** that you didn't know was there.
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Just to clarify, make sure you KNOW what you're deleting and make backups anyway, just in case something you remove from there causes issues with another application that expects it to be there. Sure, you can remove a lot (if not most) of things from system/app without harm, but don't just go deleting random things unless you are SURE there will not be side effects.
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Willing to stick my neck out and bet that we see 4.0.3 with all the Touchwiz toys out before the 4.0.3 update from Google.
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Sorry, but that's not gonna happen...
Terminators run on Android
You can have good battery life, of course
Here is mine, all stocks, not-rooted, not-unlocked, 4.0.1, yakju.
Using EXTENDED Battery 2000 mAH, GSM version.
Stand by 2 days and 7 hours, screen on time was 3 hours and 18 minutes.
It still has about 17% battery life, which could easily translate to 1 hour or so screen on time
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copkay said:
TERRIBLE advice. Make sure you KNOW what you're deleting and make backups anyway, just in case something you remove from there causes issues with another application that expects it to be there. Sure, you can remove a lot (if not most) of things from system/app without harm, but don't just go deleting random things unless you are SURE there will not be side effects.
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Common sense dictates not to delete something if you aren't sure what it is.
I apologize for having faith in the OP's cognitive functions.
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Common sense dictates not to delete something if you aren't sure what it is.
I apologize for having faith in the OP's cognitive functions.
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Your words were to delete EVERYTHING in system/app that you don't use. I'm not trying to pick an argument here, but I just like to clarify, because what may be common sense to some people may not be to another. Not even necessarily the OP, but others that come across the thread in the future.
/worked in tech support -- common sense can never be assumed.
gogol said:
You can have good battery life, of course
Here is mine, all stocks, not-rooted, not-unlocked, 4.0.1, yakju.
Using EXTENDED Battery 2000 mAH, GSM version.
Stand by 2 days and 7 hours, screen on time was 3 hours and 18 minutes.
It still has about 17% battery life, which could easily translate to 1 hour or so screen on time
Forgot to tell, im using original gsm 1750mAh bat.
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WOW! Best iv'e seen so far! I manage to get about 3h on screen time over one day of use, but 2 days and nights with already over 3h screen and still 17% to go!! Wow i do keep gps, sync, latitude, g+ turned on at all times though and always 100% screen brightness, no facebook.. gonna delete that acc soon.. any trix you use to get that bat,life?
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To begin, I want to say that I am not an Apple Fanboy or a mindless lemming for anything with an Apple logo. I've had many droid phones in the past. I just wanted to give my personal opinion between both phones and explain my personal reasons for dropping my GN and going back to my iPhone 4s.
I know that some people don't use the camera on their phone, but I have a 6 year old daughter. I use my camera quite a bit so it's important too me. I am not hung up on specs so the 5 mp camera didn't scare me. In the end it's all about what the pics look like. In perfect lighting situations the camera is pretty good. But we all know that most pictures aren't shot in perfect lighting conditions. For one week every time I took a pic with my GN I also shot one with my iPhone. Overall the iPhone pics were better. They were sharper, colors were more accurate and overall looked closer to what I was shooting. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the GN is as horrible as most posts say, I'm just saying for my personal use it's quite a bit below the iPhone's camera for the situations I am in and use my camera for. Don't tell me that it's just a camera phone and I shouldn't be that picky. You can't deny that they skimped on the camera. It's not nearly as good as most current phones. I would have been happy with the same camera from the Galaxy SII, but it's not even that good.
Battery use is another reason. I realize that it's a bigger screen, faster processor etc. so it's not going to be in the same ballpark as my iPhone. However I had 4g turned off and brightness turned down to 40% and it was still horrendous. Now before you jump on my, i did root my phone and had a rom/kernel installed. No difference! I would lose 10% of my battery for every 10 minutes of on-screen time. I was averaging 1.5 hours of on-screen time before my battery died. This is something I monitored very closely.
Also, for full disclosure, my iPhone is jailbroken so I have several widgets that refresh every 15 minutes going and the on-screen time is well over 10 hours!
The screen is nice, and while it's probably the best of the droid phones, it's not better than the iPhone's. Now you can say that it's personal preference so here's what I did. I took a pic with my iPhone and sent it to my GN. I opened the pic on both phones and set them side by side. The iPhone was sharper and more realistic in each case. I also took a pic with my GN and then sent it to my iPhone for a comparison. Same result.
I really wish that those factors weren't a dealbreaker for me because otherwise it is an awesome phone! The speaker was loud, signal was strong, didn't have any rebooting issues - all of which are being reported all over the forums. It's easily the best droid phone but just not on the same level as my iPhone. Like I said my iPhone is jailbroken so I'm able to pretty much do anything that you can with the GN!
And don't tell me that the iPhone sucks and needs to be jailbroken because the same argument can be made for the GN. The reason people root and install custom rom's/kernels is because they want a different experience/performance that what they get out of the box.
Again, this post was to give an honest user experience of why I am going back to my iPhone based on how I use my phone.
Camera quality improved quite a bit in 4.0.4. Did you use this update?
Oh noooo please dont go please dont leave us!!!
I have not updated to 4.0.4. I checked and wasn't able to update to it. The rom I was using was 4.0.4 based.
Can I update somehow even if I haven't gotten the message yet?
These threads should be auto-deleted.
That's odd I have galaxy nexus lte with the 2100 battery and honestly I have no complaints about battery life I use my GPS twice a day for about an hour and half both ways and many emails and phone calls also including all the junk I look up on the internet and I still go to bed with atleast 20 percent left... all stock. The camera I can agree on wtf were they thinking. To hell with shutter speed I want quality not quantity
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If you are on a custom ROM, you probably won't get the message and even if you do, you wouldn't be able to update OTA unless you reverted to stock.
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Can I update somehow even if I haven't gotten the message yet?
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Leads me to believe your issues are caused by user error.
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mpetruzz said:
I would lose 10% of my battery for every 10 minutes of on-screen time.
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Without starting a pointless flame war, this is not typical of general nexus users. You have something draining your battery. Honestly, don't let this put you off. Do some digging and see what is killing your battery and then decide. Something is amiss.
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I've looked at all running apps etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would cause the battery to drain that quick. And this was with 4g off and on wifi.
wtm1417 - congrats! I knew I'd get some a$$holes after posting this and you sir were the first!!
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I would lose 10% of my battery for every 10 minutes of on-screen time. I was averaging 1.5 hours of on-screen time before my battery died. This is something I monitored very closely.
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While I concur that the camera is not as good as the iPhone’s—Google and Samsung failed here—I don’t know how you did this. With stock 4.0.4 I get 3.5-4 hours of screen time consistently and plenty of battery to spare, and I don’t do anything special to get it. That said, you’d have to pay me, and pay me well, to force me to use an iPhone daily.
Wtf did I just read.. retina is better than super amoled HD ? So you're telling me you can see the 20 pixels ? The experience on the nexus is much better.. iPhone is for dumb people, no offense, not to say that iPhone looks way too familiar now, and its build quality is ****, the nexus is better in everything except camera where the iPhone slightly edges the nexus
You should get an award for being the blindest person alive
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I would agree with you on the camera bit. The camera on my old iPhone 4 was far superior than my Galaxy Nexus. With the GN you really need a steady hand to get a proper shot. I haven't got the 404 update yet so I'm hoping that this will be fixed.
Well sounds like you don't have enough time to tailor Android to your liking, ****ty deal. IPhone will be perfect for you then.
Back to flash, emulators, and 3d maps for the rest of us
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I've looked at all running apps etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would cause the battery to drain that quick. And this was with 4g off and on wifi.
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I manage to get 3 hours at least on a normal day, even with wifi only half of that. Get betterbatterystats from here on xda and see what (if anything) is keeping your phone awake. Seriously, something is not right. Maybe something as simple as a ROM/Kernel combo. Try a few different ones and see how you fare.
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So you are going back to a camera ?
Please make a better argument... I can't even take you seriously.
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I've had many droid phones in the past.
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All respect is lost.
Would you mind posting up a couple of the shots to see the comparison between the 2 phones??
Any rom/kernel suggestions? I'm open to trying something that might help me.
BTW, for all the people calling me dumb, stupid and saying I need to go to an iPhone, you're just proving your fanboys! Instead of helping me or offering suggestions it's easier just to criticize.
Thank you to the posts from members who are actually trying to help!
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I've looked at all running apps etc. Nothing out of the ordinary that would cause the battery to drain that quick. And this was with 4g off and on wifi.
wtm1417 - congrats! I knew I'd get some a$$holes after posting this and you sir were the first!!
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So you post an asshole comment right back, a lot of times people see problems because of user error.
Go back to your Apple world, enjoy the limitations and enjoy not being able to customize to it's full extent. You can say that you can do anything with your iPhone4S but at the end of the day that is just not true. Jailbroken or not.
Again, go, have fun, no skin off any of our backs and now we have one less hostile person to worry about.
Okay, so here are my needs for a phone:
-Able to handle lots of SMS, MMS, Google Talk and Facebook Messaging, at home and on the go
-Stream music in the background as I do everything I do on the phone
-Fluid Multitasking
-At least 12 hours of battery life with moderate use.
-Decent enough gaming to keep me entertained in waiting rooms
Does the HTC One V fall short in any of these categories? If so, which? Thanks in advance!!
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I'll try to answer those based on my recent experience with the one V:
I have had this phone for 24 hours now, most of that time was spent using CM10. I have switched from SGS3 (yes, really) to this. I am absolutely amazed by the battery life of this sucker. 95 to 22% with 4.5 screen on time. The brightness was fixed at 20% because that was more than enough for my indoor usage. Compared to SGS3, this should keep up for heavy messaging usage.
Multitasking is bit of a mixed bag. I am pretty sure you will not be impressed with multitasking south stock ROM with SENSE. At one point bouncing around apps, it took me little more than 10 seconds to load my text messages after the app itself was launched. That is unacceptable, especially when I had less than 50 text messages at the time. After switching up to CM10, the multitasking became much more fluid. Heavy apps like facebook reloads itself but going around twitter, tapatalk and text messaging was a breeze (less than one second during switch).
Streaming Google music is no problem for me.
With the past about battery life from before and the fact that my battery only drained by about 4% overnight, I would say that it should last an 12hours of moderate usage.
Couple things to note. Keyboard responsiveness is noticeably lower than SGS3 (both running 4.2 keyboard). The haptic feedback quality is also notable because the one v uses traditional vibration motor, meaning soft vibrations just doesn't get triggered.
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If u install a custom ROM yes it meets all the needs although heavy multitasking can be a problem
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If u install a custom ROM yes it meets all the needs although heavy multitasking can be a problem
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Wow! These posts really helped me out. Thanks!
Yes, I would definitely be on CM10 when I buy the phone.
Now I would like to ask:
What ROM does everyone use??
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I'll try to answer those based on my recent experience with the one V:
I have had this phone for 24 hours now, most of that time was spent using CM10. I have switched from SGS3 (yes, really) to this. I am absolutely amazed by the battery life of this sucker. 95 to 22% with 4.5 screen on time. The brightness was fixed at 20% because that was more than enough for my indoor usage. Compared to SGS3, this should keep up for heavy messaging usage.
Multitasking is bit of a mixed bag. I am pretty sure you will not be impressed with multitasking south stock ROM with SENSE. At one point bouncing around apps, it took me little more than 10 seconds to load my text messages after the app itself was launched. That is unacceptable, especially when I had less than 50 text messages at the time. After switching up to CM10, the multitasking became much more fluid. Heavy apps like facebook reloads itself but going around twitter, tapatalk and text messaging was a breeze (less than one second during switch).
Streaming Google music is no problem for me.
With the past about battery life from before and the fact that my battery only drained by about 4% overnight, I would say that it should last an 12hours of moderate usage.
Couple things to note. Keyboard responsiveness is noticeably lower than SGS3 (both running 4.2 keyboard). The haptic feedback quality is also notable because the one v uses traditional vibration motor, meaning soft vibrations just doesn't get triggered.
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Best rom questions are prohibited although u can refer this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953690
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I would say, that all your needs are being covered, even with the stock ROM. I would recommend a Sense based ROM, and judging by your feature-wishes, staying with the stock may be the most stable/best option. Sense is extremly well integrated and comes with a lot of apps, that you otherwise must purchase/download. I find it a very satisfying experience (though, all I can compare it to is the Galaxy S3, which suxx if judged by the apps, Samsung offers).
Extreme multitasking, however, is relative. What is extreme? Remember, that you got 512MB of RAM only. And this is very small. But it's enough to have running some apps, and maybe the one or other game at once. If you play a game, that is heavy on resources, than the launcher will be temporarily disables, but it comes back quick, at least on stock.
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I would say, that all your needs are being covered, even with the stock ROM. I would recommend a Sense based ROM, and judging by your feature-wishes, staying with the stock may be the most stable/best option. Sense is extremly well integrated and comes with a lot of apps, that you otherwise must purchase/download. I find it a very satisfying experience (though, all I can compare it to is the Galaxy S3, which suxx if judged by the apps, Samsung offers).
Extreme multitasking, however, is relative. What is extreme? Remember, that you got 512MB of RAM only. And this is very small. But it's enough to have running some apps, and maybe the one or other game at once. If you play a game, that is heavy on resources, than the launcher will be temporarily disables, but it comes back quick, at least on stock.
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Sorry, I was unclear.
By "multitasking" I meant streaming Pandora while switching between text messaging and games (such as Angry Birds). Or quickly needing to Google something somewhere in between there.
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Sorry, I was unclear.
By "multitasking" I meant streaming Pandora while switching between text messaging and games (such as Angry Birds). Or quickly needing to Google something somewhere in between there.
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There is a heavy multitasking and normal
When the game uses a lot of ram and u switch it may restart
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This phone on stock rom does not perform well AT ALL during multitasking. Going to home and then loading messages is a pain..... App loads but it's blank till 5 seconds later
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Yeah....you have to try a Rom which speed up the phone a lot......there are lots of roms in the dev section just try em and see which one is good for you ....
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Sorry, I was unclear.
By "multitasking" I meant streaming Pandora while switching between text messaging and games (such as Angry Birds). Or quickly needing to Google something somewhere in between there.
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Hmmm, I don't use Pandora (EU), so I can't say, but it seems to me, that playing a game (which has sound) and listening to Pandora at the same time (it has sound, too) may be a bit counter productive. But since a streaming radio does not need much power, it won't interfere with the rest of your system. Text messaging is also easy games. Not much processing power needed here. In combination with a streaming audio client I see no problem.
Gaming, however, is -> always <- another world. It's where consumer PCs start to cost a lot of money and the same is true for mobiles. For games you can never have enough graphic power, cpu power, disk speed and RAM. Now obviously we're talking about a different kind of breed of games and a relativley small screen size on the One V, but if you want to play high end 3D games, you may experience the one or other slow downs. Oh, and such games just will just throw out all other games from memory. For example, there is a 3D space exploration / dog fight game names "Dangerous": forget about it Also for many games control is pretty ugly on a mobile device, at least as long you don't have a dedicated game pad.
But the typical mobile games, like Angry Birds, different kinds of console emulators, puzzles, 2D (or light 3D) action does not pose a problem. Multitasking, however, is the first thing you lose when playing any game, they want a lot of RAM.
All in all, the One V may well suit you. My personal grief with it is the lack of a compass, some other sensors would have been nice and the screen is a tad too small (though I prefer mobiles, that you can handle single handedly). And, the most obvious problem is, that RAM is a bit on the low side. An Android device should at least have 768MB, IMO, better 1GB, and a 2GB of flash disk. But besides that, you get an aluminium case, that fits into your jeans pocket, does not crack if you sit on it, has a very nice UI, is easy to use, has an sdcard slot, has a screen, that is above the average in image quality (sharp, no pixeliziation, good to read) , and is, overall, a sympathic little friend, that gets all of the jobs done (except magnetometer/compass and some other sensors, which I would have liked)
I also listen to internet radio. There are many rock-stable custom roms to choose from. Especially if gou want to play an high end game.
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Come to think of it, our phone is truly amazing.
It has far-exceeded its original shelf-life, and is still very capable to uphold itself in these upcoming years.
Three cheers for Android!
HOORAY HOORAY HOORAY
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Reinvented said:
Come to think of it, our phone is truly amazing.
It has far-exceeded its original shelf-life, and is still very capable to uphold itself in these upcoming years.
Three cheers for Android!
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yea, it's just sucks a little that Google/TI no longer support it.
and also apparently didn't do much of anything in the ways of optimizing code as per omapzoom and other things. I just feel like this thing still has a pretty nice amount of untapped potential in it and wish I knew how to do anything at all in order to pull it out. because while SURE it can perform nicely, there ARE times where you can tell it's strained. and it Just seems like with proper coding it shouldn't at all. Imho the cpu is plenty good enough to handle more than it does, but due to other factors that also put a damper on battery life, it has been held back just a bit from it's full power in order to squeeze that extra necessary juice out.
(which brings me to a side question here, not trying to thread hijack sorries. but, a lot of times you see kernels and roms that have descriptions for "battery tweaks". and in my experience, saving battery tweaks usually go in hand with a slight, even if minute, drop of performance. what I'm trying to find out is what specifically was changed for those "battery saving tweaks". I would personally like to play around with those values. one thing I came across was I believe kernel tweak for "random read/write wake threshold" in sysctl which a lot put to 128/256 respectively as a battery saving tweak. I'm still researching/testing into just exactly WHAT that is for, but I have lowered those values from anywhere of 64/128 to 8/16. but I'd like to couple that with any OTHER changes to see what can be squeezed so to speak lol...anyone let me know if you know of any that you used in the past so that I might look into them and see if were implemented in my setup and reverse them if possible....pm me IF OP would rather this not clog up the thread lol sorry)
but yeah I agree mostly as well, especially with the great devs who worked on & the newer guys who have been jumping on to keep things moving forward, it's just GREAT community for a solid device.
it's my first nexus and I'm extremely happy I got it within 4months of launch so that I could be around and grow WITH it, learning a ton and experiencing it's evolution. it's been fun and STILL is after so long. it is cool to see that even when development started to slow a bit, others jumped to the plate and started digging in, reviving all the excitement. cheers to all in this community!
I see it the other way:
That newer phones may have gotten better specs but Android OS has not changed enough to justify updating to the latest/greatest phones.
For the past 20 months I'm still enjoying using 4.1.2 ROM seeing as the GN was the official 4.1 Jellybean show piece.
I've personally found KitKat to be a dumbed down version of Android, especially since Google removed tablet mode.
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yea, it's just sucks a little that Google/TI no longer support it.
and also apparently didn't do much of anything in the ways of optimizing code as per omapzoom and other things. I just feel like this thing still has a pretty nice amount of untapped potential in it and wish I knew how to do anything at all in order to pull it out. because while SURE it can perform nicely, there ARE times where you can tell it's strained. and it Just seems like with proper coding it shouldn't at all. Imho the cpu is plenty good enough to handle more than it does, but due to other factors that also put a damper on battery life, it has been held back just a bit from it's full power in order to squeeze that extra necessary juice out.
(which brings me to a side question here, not trying to thread hijack sorries. but, a lot of times you see kernels and roms that have descriptions for "battery tweaks". and in my experience, saving battery tweaks usually go in hand with a slight, even if minute, drop of performance. what I'm trying to find out is what specifically was changed for those "battery saving tweaks". I would personally like to play around with those values. one thing I came across was I believe kernel tweak for "random read/write wake threshold" in sysctl which a lot put to 128/256 respectively as a battery saving tweak. I'm still researching/testing into just exactly WHAT that is for, but I have lowered those values from anywhere of 64/128 to 8/16. but I'd like to couple that with any OTHER changes to see what can be squeezed so to speak lol...anyone let me know if you know of any that you used in the past so that I might look into them and see if were implemented in my setup and reverse them if possible....pm me IF OP would rather this not clog up the thread lol sorry)
but yeah I agree mostly as well, especially with the great devs who worked on & the newer guys who have been jumping on to keep things moving forward, it's just GREAT community for a solid device.
it's my first nexus and I'm extremely happy I got it within 4months of launch so that I could be around and grow WITH it, learning a ton and experiencing it's evolution. it's been fun and STILL is after so long. it is cool to see that even when development started to slow a bit, others jumped to the plate and started digging in, reviving all the excitement. cheers to all in this community!
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But linaro,omapzoom,cyanogen and much others still support our phone
What we need to do?We need to update to 3.4 kernel and add all 3.4 new things,inprove trim support,fix power hall(fix deep sleep mostly)
i will try to fix those,its my mission
I like how light kit kat is. But I remember better battery life on JB ROMS. I thought it would be the other way around but it's still nice to be on the latest version of android
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In all honesty, I have found that my battery life has been about the same between JB and KK.
Whiteboy_cannon said:
I like how light kit kat is. But I remember better battery life on JB ROMS. I thought it would be the other way around but it's still nice to be on the latest version of android
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Newer Android is usually the best route.
I've never personally understood why people cling onto Android 4.1, or 4.2.2 (when theyre rooted and have this specific phone)
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Newer Android is usually the best route.
I've never personally understood why people cling onto Android 4.1, or 4.2.2 (when theyre rooted and have this specific phone)
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I don't get it either. But to each his own
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Unless you play games you really don't need a new super powerful phone with a 2.5ghz quad core processor and 3gb of ram.
The Galaxy Nexus does an alight job for every day use, i do feel it could be quicker sometimes and wish i had better battery life, but as phone ive used daily for two and a half years i really cant complain too much.
it truly is a great device. It's all thanks to the great Devs working so hard for a device that has been forsaken by Google, itself lol.
InsaneNutter said:
Unless you play games you really don't need a new super powerful phone with a 2.5ghz quad core processor and 3gb of ram.
The Galaxy Nexus does an alight job for every day use, i do feel it could be quicker sometimes and wish i had better battery life, but as phone ive used daily for two and a half years i really cant complain too much.
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GN can run games just fine, problem is app builders don't support it so some great games don't even show up on the play store.
Eg.
Real Racing 3
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GN can run games just fine, problem is app builders don't support it so some great games don't even show up on the play store.
Eg.
Real Racing 3
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That game you mentioned shows up and lets me install on my Galaxy Nexus fine:
I dont really play many demanding games on my phone, the latest i have played is Trials Frontier which has never given me any problems.
InsaneNutter said:
That game you mentioned shows up and lets me install on my Galaxy Nexus fine:
I dont really play many demanding games on my phone, the latest i have played is Trials Frontier which has never given me any problems.
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Why would I need to make it up?
It may just be my ROM that's some how blocking certain games even though the example you gave is compatible with Android 2.3+.
The desktop play store version has always been weird.
Eg.
Electronic arts developer has 37 apps listed on desktop play store where on my GN via play store app there's only 17.
LOL
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Why would I need to make it up?
It may just be my ROM that's some how blocking certain games even though the example you gave is compatible with Android 2.3+.
The desktop play store version has always been weird.
Eg.
Electronic arts developer has 37 apps listed on desktop play store where on my GN via play store app there's only 17.
LOL
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I'm not saying you made it up, i believe you, i was simply showing at least on my Galaxy Nexus i had no problem with the game you mentioned.
Maybe its a regional thing? for example the Trials game i linked to was only out in Finland for a few weeks, then it got released to more countries after that.
Totally agree with the op.. Software wise it still runs great.... And hardware wise I still feel it one of the most beautifully designed phones ever..
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It's a beautiful phone indeed, if you don't use the 2100 mAh battery and the "assy" cover which makes it a little ugly.
Agree.. I have not added any extended batteries for the same reason .. I like it's slim and curvy profile... Just got an oem one as the original had worn out
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My guess is people tend to remember better battery life with JB because their battery was new back then Totally agree with OP, I've been using my GNex for 2 years now and thanks to continued support from developers I'm still excited and try new stuff to this day. I plan to change it in 2015, but as much as my next phone will be so much better in every department, I do have a feeling that I'll miss my good old GNex somehow
This is the most versatile phone I've ever used.
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