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Anyone used this software before? Sounds quite interesting and works on the HD.
http://www.microsoft.com/tag/
Works very well.
I loaded it up a few weeks ago when it was announced.
It starts fine and accesses directly the camera. It searches automatically for tags and then launchs internet to connect to the tag.
I installed it this morning and seems to work pretty well. However I haven't seen any websites or posters with that on it, so it might be a while before we are actually able to use the software.
I to have just installed the app. I like the look of it. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how long before it becomes of use to us.
So useless, why use MS Tags if a worldwide standard - Barcodes - exists already for years - and works on mobile phones with reader software. Just another attempt by MS to waste money.
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So useless, why use MS Tags if a worldwide standard - Barcodes - exists already for years - and works on mobile phones with reader software. Just another attempt by MS to waste money.
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My thoughts exactly. We have a GREAT 2D-barcode standard QRCode (and to some degree DataMatrix), that's already widely used (by delivery companies, postal workers, public transit companies etc. etc.) and supported, works in black&white and is an open standard (ISO/IEC) that anyone can implement free of charge (Denso Wave has chosen not to exercise it's patent, other than to limit the use of the trademark term QR Code).
Microsoft advertises the technology by comparing the size of the resulting code, naturally a four-color code is smaller than a 1-bit implementation, but 2D barcodes are used to store very little information (shipment ID, URL, phone number etc.), so that's just stupid.
The only interesting thing is the fact that Microsoft tags require less image quality to be scanned successfully, but I for one have never had problems with that even with older phones (sub-VGA cameras), let alone modern ones.
It's nice to see interest in physical interfaces to mobile web like these grow, but I really don't think Microsoft Tags bring enough improvements to the table to warrant using them over standardized technology.
Just my $0.2
Thanks for your insight, quality posting. Sad thing is that few consumers are motivated to use barcodes. Offering rebate through them, like virtual coupons, might be a way to change that.
If MS would truly innovate, they would work on something like this, social tagging:
http://tonchidot.com/index_info.html
I agree with most of the comments questioning the usefulness of this app.
I must admit to actually liking it a lot - works well, simple interface, grabs pictures with the crappy HD camera very well.
BUT, I have never seen a MS Tag in the wild yet, maybe in a few years when I've moved to an iphone (ho ho) ...
When I initially read this, I thought it was ground breaking. However, I was under the illusion that it was using OCR to read whatever you take a photo of to intelligently derive tags and therefore referals to websites.
However, the OCR is only based on Microsoft barcodes. This is a very limited market.
Yet, again Microsoft taking over the world but I sense this will fall flat on it's face.
The standard barcode workaround may work, but how many film poster's or bus timetables (for example) do you know that have a barcode ? This strikes me to be more about physical consumer products than anything else.
Having been using QR Codes for a while now, I must admit I think MS tags are brilliant.
So many cameras on phones struggle with QR Codes, but MS tags can be easily read even when out of focus. There are other things I like about the tag: the ability to track the geolocation of where it was scanned (opt-in basis by people running the tag reader). On their site they have detailed info about just how poor some HTC cameras are when passing streams of data over to other apps - makes for interesting reading!
What I absolutely despise about it is
a) the fact that there is no SDK for it and making up tags using the web site is NOT an option for anybody but the hobyist
b) the fact that MS hasn't clarified whether or not they'd be charging for it
c) I'm not comfortable in leaving all the tracking data in the hands of one company
QR Codes have the benefit of not needing to be printed in colour, but MS tag has the benefit of being read easier using mobile phones.
I don't believe QR Codes will disappear but I do believe MS Tags will be successful. I certainly belive that there's room in the market for it, PROVIDED MS doesn't charge for it.
MS really need to sort out its advertising campaign i think. Im in the UK and its all very quiet over here, those `really` wouldnt want me to buy a wp7. i was in the US and noticed the presence of WP7 a bit more... but still the question is what is the best way to advertise WP7. what would make you think... i want one of those!!!! doh ive clicked the poll button but it wont give me any options to sort the poll help!!! im sure this happened to me last time.
They need to show what the phone does instead of a bunch of people just using it. The big advantage wp7 has its its unique and fluid interface and they need to show this of more.
I also think they should push the zune pass a lot more as for the law abiding music lovers this is the best music service there is. It also would help if the uk got the 10 perminant downloads a month that the usa get.
As for its presence i don't know if i watch different tv to the rest of you (maybe as my wife makes me watch crap) but i see the wp7 adds more then any other phone though the iphone is very close second.
They also need to check the stores as they are not pushing it bar orange who from what i have seen are the only ones clued up and pushing it (even the tv adverts are for the mozart on orange). When i went to the o2 store the display had 2 demo phones but both where vandalized and just left and the display itself was tucked away round a corner. I think they should also send there own reps out to shopping malls like htc are doing for the desire range and push there brand with there own sales people, displays and demo's. Give people a chance to see it and be shown how it works properly they will love it but one thing i get from non phoney people is that it looks different so they don't know if they would be able to use it then once they see how easy it is there hooked but they need to be shown first before they are sure.
i wanted to poll this how can i do it? when i try polling it did not give me options to type what i wanted.
no business users on xda? would have thought that wp7 office would have scored some points. im always using wp7 office i tend not to write stuff on it but use it to transfer documents. come to think of it. wp7 office is the main reason why i stuck with windows mobile in the first place...after having the laggy htc diamond 2 i wanted some slighty bigger and far quicker and was being drawn towards the dark side when wp7 came along. all the other stuff, like zune, xbox live cemented my decision
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no business users on xda? would have thought that wp7 office would have scored some points. im always using wp7 office i tend not to write stuff on it but use it to transfer documents. come to think of it. wp7 office is the main reason why i stuck with windows mobile in the first place...after having the laggy htc diamond 2 i wanted some slighty bigger and far quicker and was being drawn towards the dark side when wp7 came along. all the other stuff, like zune, xbox live cemented my decision
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You are right mate. Office is nice. However this should at least match DocsToGo.
It is available for WM and Android.
Current Office is sweet but absolutely too limited.
Seriously, it's not one thing that really sets WP7, it's the INTEGRATION of ALL those things that sets it apart. When I show my focus off to people, I start with the integration with contacts to facebook (that I have their number/email) and show that I can write on their wall, send an email, txt and stuff and if they have an address, how I can quickly map it to Bing and then find directions. Also updating my facebook status and commenting. Then I show them the voice command for search to call people or find a place and directions. The dedicated camera button. Xbox games and it's graphics. I forget to show them Zune (but I don't have a zune pass) besides how if I go to a youtube video that it saves my recent history so I don't have to remember the site. I also show them pics uploading to facebook and show them how my pictures automatically upload to skydrive and tell them about the 25 GB free of online storage.
It's really how all those things come together which is why I love my WP7. It's SYNERGY! lol.
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no business users on xda? would have thought that wp7 office would have scored some points. im always using wp7 office i tend not to write stuff on it but use it to transfer documents. come to think of it. wp7 office is the main reason why i stuck with windows mobile in the first place...after having the laggy htc diamond 2 i wanted some slighty bigger and far quicker and was being drawn towards the dark side when wp7 came along. all the other stuff, like zune, xbox live cemented my decision
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I hope you are not serious about business users. As our Chief Security Officer put it for our CEO and CTO when they brought their wp7 devices to work and wanted integrate them with our Exchange environment: "leave the toys at home".
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I hope you are not serious about business users. As our Chief Security Officer put it for our CEO and CTO when they brought their wp7 devices to work and wanted integrate them with our Exchange environment: "leave the toys at home".
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Puhleeezee....
Forget the rest of the features, it's going to be Xbox Live that sells it to the mainstream.. they've already started advertising this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHNWL-WdzsM
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Puhleeezee....
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Believe it or not but setting AllowSimplePassword was more than enough to violate the security policy enforced http://social.technet.microsoft.com...tions-when-using-windows-phone-7-clients.aspx
The subject of on-device encryption just put a final nail.
It might be ok for small businesses not to care about these policies but large organizations rely on the security provided by the Exchange if they care about security of their email transactions.
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I went into O2 today and asked to see the HTC HD7 (was with a friend and left mine at home). and the guy said, yes, but we also have the iPhone and took us to it without asking me. Which greatly saddened me as the WP7 has better features like (bing search to find places near you faster, back button, smooth/glossy/simple interface, Xbox live, better music marketplace, better SDK ect). but if you don't know much, you would have go to the iPhone. Yet another idiot who doesn't know anything about phones. Selling phones >.<.
All of them partially! I mean none of them separately is SO amazing but TOGETHER...
You don't believe Facebook is the only key selling point.
You may laugh but office IS important too.
The mix is important. Fluid modern OS. And integrity with MS services.
Also the fact that WP7 devices are highend. Good browser and Email. Homescreen.
Its a tough choice I think which comes down to personal preferance at least it shows that wp7 has a lot of good things working for it. Looks like Xbox live is taking a good lead Microsoft would be wise to exploit their Xbox users to give wp7 a good advantage over other phones
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Agree, Lol!
WP7 actually has better Exchange support than Android, and the data on the devices are more secure than on Android devices.
But given who you quoted, I'm not surprised
Looks like I'm only 1 of 2 who voted for the Bing search. I really like the voice integration and the way it gives you the 3 categories. News, web, local.
action_efn_jackson said:
Looks like I'm only 1 of 2 who voted for the Bing search. I really like the voice integration and the way it gives you the 3 categories. News, web, local.
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Google has this. The differences are mostly in the user interface. It's not an advantage.
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N8ter said:
Google has this. The differences are mostly in the user interface. It's not an advantage.
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and it's US only.
Fine for most business users
lqaddict said:
Believe it or not but setting AllowSimplePassword was more than enough to violate the security policy enforced http://social.technet.microsoft.com...tions-when-using-windows-phone-7-clients.aspx
The subject of on-device encryption just put a final nail.
It might be ok for small businesses not to care about these policies but large organizations rely on the security provided by the Exchange if they care about security of their email transactions.
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Exactly. I own 2 small businesses and WP7 is fine (better that WM and Android for me). I'd wager most WP7 users are not in large corporate environments where email security is on the forefront - I can't imagine anyone hacking my phone for my email.
davidebanks was serious in recommending WP7 for business users. Probably the majority of them, as there are many, many industries with mobile needs that don't need such airtight email security (it can still be fairly secure, btw).
To say that he shouldn't be serious and to quote your Chief Security Officer's cute little one-liner dismissing every device on the platform as a toy is a disservice to those using this tread for what it is intended for. There is a thread comparing WP7 to Android, btw.
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Google has this. The differences are mostly in the user interface. It's not an advantage.
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As in a Google App or Andriod OS?
There's a touch of Metro in the new Android Marketplace... More importantly they now have a Books section which I hope will come to exist on WP7.
http://pocketnow.com/android/walkthrough-of-revemped-google-android-market-video?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+pocketnow+%28pocketnow.com%29
Yup, definitely metro inspired. I quite like it. I wonder if it's coming to my Android tab and how it'll look?
Casey
doesn't look good at all.
the books section is hodge podge, movies is better... netflix shot itself in the foot this week so timing is good....
that, and google+ is very polished for a beta. wow, just wow.
interesting, gave out 100/101 g+ invites, and now I have 100 more. sweet !
The books section is great just for the fact that it gets books away from the other apps. They are increasingly annoying in the WP marketplace.
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The books section is great just for the fact that it gets books away from the other apps. They are increasingly annoying in the WP marketplace.
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Amen brother ! Couldn't be more right.
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The books section is great just for the fact that it gets books away from the other apps. They are increasingly annoying in the WP marketplace.
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That's why I'm convinced that Microsoft will address that can give it an own section in the marketplace.
I like it!
Even though it's metro inspired, it's way better than it was before.
I think Google redesigned the new market that way to get a jump on WP7. The WP7 market needs to be improved and I was thinking it needed more apps per horizontal space...like 2 or 3 side by side...just a little while before the new Android market appeared. I bet Google saw that same need and figured they would jump on that style and design before MS had a chance to because the new Android market is exactly like how the WP7 market should look.
Did anybody else notice that they misspelled "revamped" in the URL?
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I think that Googles UI design overall has become a bit Metro inspired. I shouldn't say that I'm complaining though
so now alot more ppl like metro UI..... and other OS are following MS lead....
The WP7 marketplace has a books section
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The only Metro-Like inspiration there is one page with squares.
1. It's over!!!
2. Be Social
ENJOY!!!! They are pretty good.
The first one made me chuckle, we will see how nokia lives up to the hype
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I get it, but...
Cute, I guess.
Seriously, though, they gotta do better than this! Doesn't say anything about the phone.
It'll be good to finally see them on TV as well as follow up commercials for my new hero phone.
I like the "death grip example" (mock scenario) they posted.
They need to show what the phone can do. Okay to poke a little fun between goliath companies, but consumers need to know what they are buying into. I bought one of the first "Windows Phone" back in 2010, and liked that it was different and I could swap batteries. Seems I can't with this model. I'll hold onto my Lumia 710 for a bit before jumping up to the 900.It has same features, just not the big screen.
and..... #3 Thanks Megan Landry
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and..... #3 Thanks Megan Landry
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Getting better. I'm ok if some of the commercials just give a sneak peak and some give a few more details like this one.
I think its actually pretty smart. A commercials job is to get people to think, ask and talk about a product. If it gets people in to a store to ask how it is different or to get more info etc... then it did its job.
In the US we LOVE to root for the underdog. eg.. "Firefox, take back the web.... "
We had a local restaurant thats gone statewide after their "Save the bird eat a xxxx" add campaign.
The only thing they could have done better in those commercials would have been to hook in to an underdog theme.
I went to a Behind the Tiles event last night in Minneapolis. About 20 people showed up, and there were 10-15 MS employees on hand. Needless to say there was pleanty of oportunity to talk to MS employees one on one and ask very specific questions. The people who presented / made themselves readily available were very knowledgable.
Most attendees were WP7 users already: Just about 1/2 were developers, the other 1/2 were in IT/IS in one capacity or another or at least a technology enthusiast. It was not a developer-oriented event (JIC you didn't know...)
If you're new to windows phone then this is a very good event to see the features demonstrated. Even after 1.5 years of being on the OS I still learned quite a bit about application features (pinning is more detailed than I've been using, integration with areas of the OS where the appropriate apps are located), and a very good demonstration of Bing, which has a TON more features than I've been using.
Everyone had a Nokia 900 provided to play with (focus on Me tile, setting up, etc.), and for Bing we were able to execute translations, scan pictures with the camera for text which we then sent in an e-mail, playing music on the phone and having Bing display the artist and where to buy the albumn / song, and focused a lot on voice commands and how to simply talk to your phone w/out pushing any buttons. It was pretty cool, actually. One thing that stuck out in my mind was that the malls in Bing Maps have detailed floor maps (complete with store names) that I didn't know existed, which was nice to see. They also showed how to filter results from Bing search easily.
In addition, they demoed some future tech (XBox, Kinect, and WP working together), talked about Win8 and WP8 a little (very little, but at least it was direct) and focused one of the sections on business use (also very enlightening).
At the end they gave away an NL 900, 2 StarWars XBox units, and 4,000 gamer points. Given the people there, it was a 1/5 chance to win one of those (of course, I didn't win anything =) ). Not sure if those are given out at each event, so YMMV - that's what they had to offer last night. Oh, and light swag (notebook, I <3 Win Phone stickers, etc.).
Lastly, BestBuy offered $50 off the $99 Lumia 900 if you were eligible, so It's a good way to save a buck or two if that's of interest.
If you were on the fence I recommend signing up - it was worth my time for sure!
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I went to a Behind the Tiles event last night in Minneapolis. About 20 people showed up, and there were 10-15 MS employees on hand. Needless to say there was pleanty of oportunity to talk to MS employees one on one and ask very specific questions. The people who presented / made themselves readily available were very knowledgable.
Most attendees were WP7 users already: Just about 1/2 were developers, the other 1/2 were in IT/IS in one capacity or another or at least a technology enthusiast. It was not a developer-oriented event (JIC you didn't know...)
If you're new to windows phone then this is a very good event to see the features demonstrated. Even after 1.5 years of being on the OS I still learned quite a bit about application features (pinning is more detailed than I've been using, integration with areas of the OS where the appropriate apps are located), and a very good demonstration of Bing, which has a TON more features than I've been using.
Everyone had a Nokia 900 provided to play with (focus on Me tile, setting up, etc.), and for Bing we were able to execute translations, scan pictures with the camera for text which we then sent in an e-mail, playing music on the phone and having Bing display the artist and where to buy the albumn / song, and focused a lot on voice commands and how to simply talk to your phone w/out pushing any buttons. It was pretty cool, actually. One thing that stuck out in my mind was that the malls in Bing Maps have detailed floor maps (complete with store names) that I didn't know existed, which was nice to see. They also showed how to filter results from Bing search easily.
In addition, they demoed some future tech (XBox, Kinect, and WP working together), talked about Win8 and WP8 a little (very little, but at least it was direct) and focused one of the sections on business use (also very enlightening).
At the end they gave away an NL 900, 2 StarWars XBox units, and 4,000 gamer points. Given the people there, it was a 1/5 chance to win one of those (of course, I didn't win anything =) ). Not sure if those are given out at each event, so YMMV - that's what they had to offer last night. Oh, and light swag (notebook, I <3 Win Phone stickers, etc.).
Lastly, BestBuy offered $50 off the $99 Lumia 900 if you were eligible, so It's a good way to save a buck or two if that's of interest.
If you were on the fence I recommend signing up - it was worth my time for sure!
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Cool. Nice to hear. Thanks for sharing !!
I would love to attend something like that. I have been using Lumia for a week and wants to love it, but i always have a feeling that it missing a lot. I would really like to explore Bing features more as IMO it should be given more credit.
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I would love to attend something like that. I have been using Lumia for a week and wants to love it, but i always have a feeling that it missing a lot. I would really like to explore Bing features more as IMO it should be given more credit.
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No doubt! I was suprised at how much I didn't know! Here's a couple of links that may help to see the functionality of Bing:
http://www.bing.com/community/site_.../10/windows-phone-update-bing-o-on-mango.aspx
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vi...pkey=c0b91059-9ce0-477f-a391-53fbb53c061e||||
I would love to go to one as well. I think the one in ny happened already. I'm gonna have to check it out soon.
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There are lots of these resources online if you look for them. When attending an event with Microsoft, they throw this in your face. But most of it is already available. Check out the Windows Phone Blog sites, and the Windowsphone.com sites for info.....lotttssss there.
i was there too
eknutson said:
I went to a Behind the Tiles event last night in Minneapolis. About 20 people showed up, and there were 10-15 MS employees on hand. Needless to say there was pleanty of oportunity to talk to MS employees one on one and ask very specific questions. The people who presented / made themselves readily available were very knowledgable.
Most attendees were WP7 users already: Just about 1/2 were developers, the other 1/2 were in IT/IS in one capacity or another or at least a technology enthusiast. It was not a developer-oriented event (JIC you didn't know...)
If you're new to windows phone then this is a very good event to see the features demonstrated. Even after 1.5 years of being on the OS I still learned quite a bit about application features (pinning is more detailed than I've been using, integration with areas of the OS where the appropriate apps are located), and a very good demonstration of Bing, which has a TON more features than I've been using.
Everyone had a Nokia 900 provided to play with (focus on Me tile, setting up, etc.), and for Bing we were able to execute translations, scan pictures with the camera for text which we then sent in an e-mail, playing music on the phone and having Bing display the artist and where to buy the albumn / song, and focused a lot on voice commands and how to simply talk to your phone w/out pushing any buttons. It was pretty cool, actually. One thing that stuck out in my mind was that the malls in Bing Maps have detailed floor maps (complete with store names) that I didn't know existed, which was nice to see. They also showed how to filter results from Bing search easily.
In addition, they demoed some future tech (XBox, Kinect, and WP working together), talked about Win8 and WP8 a little (very little, but at least it was direct) and focused one of the sections on business use (also very enlightening).
At the end they gave away an NL 900, 2 StarWars XBox units, and 4,000 gamer points. Given the people there, it was a 1/5 chance to win one of those (of course, I didn't win anything =) ). Not sure if those are given out at each event, so YMMV - that's what they had to offer last night. Oh, and light swag (notebook, I <3 Win Phone stickers, etc.).
Lastly, BestBuy offered $50 off the $99 Lumia 900 if you were eligible, so It's a good way to save a buck or two if that's of interest.
If you were on the fence I recommend signing up - it was worth my time for sure!
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Well i was there too and i won the Lumia (yep the guy who shouted like crazy when the number was announced). meanwhile do you have any idea if the phone they have given is unlocked or not. 'coz i called the ATT guys and they told they do not have this device IEMI number in their database.
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Well i was there too and i won the Lumia (yep the guy who shouted like crazy when the number was announced). meanwhile do you have any idea if the phone they have given is unlocked or not. 'coz i called the ATT guys and they told they do not have this device IEMI number in their database.
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Funny, I was sure it was an AT&T device (it has an AT&T logo on it, doesn't it?) so they should have it! I know this sounds pretty dumb... but did you ask them to try again? =)
Grats on the phone, too!
They are having these events at best buys throughout may but in order to go you have to RSVP with a registration code. Did you have that? I don't know how I would get one.
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They are having these events at best buys throughout may but in order to go you have to RSVP with a registration code. Did you have that? I don't know how I would get one.
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I used 'MVP', and I saw one other but hopefully that one will still work.
Awesome. Thanks. I'll report back.
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It worked perfectly. Thank you so much for the response. I appreciate it. I registered for an event in NYC on the 9th. I'll be back here afterwards to let you guys know how it went.
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Went to one on 14May in San Diego. They changed the venue from Best Buy to the Microsoft store. A lot of interesting features were brought up & WOOHOO.... I won one of the Lumias. They gave away teeshirts, 2 lumia 900s, 2 Star Wars XBox Kinects and 2 4000 pt. XBox cards
So the event I went to was ok. I learned one or two things. They had three different stations set up and we walked in a circle hitting each. There are no seats so we were standing for the duration of the 2.5 hour event which was a bit uncomfortable seeing that I had just worked the whole day. They I didn't win any prizes though.
Seems like they gave way more stuff away at the event held at the Microsoft store. I got a bag with a sticker, pen, notebook and a poster.
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Went to one on 14May in San Diego. They changed the venue from Best Buy to the Microsoft store. A lot of interesting features were brought up & WOOHOO.... I won one of the Lumias. They gave away teeshirts, 2 lumia 900s, 2 Star Wars XBox Kinects and 2 4000 pt. XBox cards
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My sister won the other one there...lol which is mine now