Anybody think it's possible to get T-Mobiles Wifi Calling working on an imported Galaxy Nexus? I want to import it but I rely on Wifi Calling at home.
Is it as simple as pulling the APK from a phone that has it or is there more to it?
I'm no Dev, but I've flashed enough roms on my tmous sensation to know that its more than just that .apk.
joeyklatzko said:
Anybody think it's possible to get T-Mobiles Wifi Calling working on an imported Galaxy Nexus? I want to import it but I rely on Wifi Calling at home.
Is it as simple as pulling the APK from a phone that has it or is there more to it?
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No, there's a lot more to it.
The #1 thing that's going to be required is a radio interface layer that supports the necessary authentication calls to switch to GAN. This is assuming that the Kineto app and libraries work on ICS.
The thing that killed progress on the Nexus S was that we were never able to get a RIL that supported the necessary auth calls - and as a result it would never switch over to GAN, set up the tunnel, etc.
Kineto responded and blamed Google for "not requesting" support from the vendor for this feature. It's yet to be seen if it will work with the Galaxy Nexus. It's possible but I wouldn't count on it. Seeing as how the RIL is distributed as a closed source blob if it doesn't support it there aren't a lot of options.
At a minimum you need:
- A kernel with kineto_gan or gan-eth build in
- A vendor RIL that supports all of the auth calls to set up gan
- libganril, librilswitch and your vendor ril - librilswitch loads on boot and manages the handoff from the vendor ril (normal calling) to libganril (gan/wifi calling)
- Kineto app, libcryp98, modified libkineto that uses the local libcryp98 for ssl and tunneling.
- libaudio(I think) that has been modified to support the constructor called by kineto - it changed in Gingerbread and had to be modified to support the old call
- build.prop modified to use librilswitch, define the vendor and gan ril
It's been a while since I gave up on the port (After months of getting nowhere with Samsung or Kineto on a RIL and no RIL from other devices working on the Nexus S) so that list may be partially incomplete but it should at least give you a good starting point.
SO badly wish we could get it to work! It's the ONLY thing stopping me from purchasing and importing as I 100% rely on wifi calling at home.
lp1527 said:
SO badly wish we could get it to work! It's the ONLY thing stopping me from purchasing and importing as I 100% rely on wifi calling at home.
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If you can't get service at home, is it possible for you to get a [email protected] that would allow you to use wifi calling transparently? I imagine T-Mobile would be willing to accommodate if you're a contract customer.
I work for T-Mobile and know for a fact that they now offer in home boosters, for people with low reception issues. You should try stopping by your local T-Mo store, or call Customer Care to inquire about it, because there are some restrictions, in regards to qualifying for it. Hope this helps!
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CM7 has this built in. Maybe CM9 will also.
I work in a dungeon and we have a cellular repeater in the hallway. It works well with Verizon and AT&T bands, but not so well with Tmobile. So I rely heavily on WiFi Calling while at work.
But since I'm upgrading my Verizon business blackberry to a Galaxy Nexus, I won't have to fool with it anymore.
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CM7 has this built in. Maybe CM9 will also.
I work in a dungeon and we have a cellular repeater in the hallway. It works well with Verizon and AT&T bands, but not so well with Tmobile. So I rely heavily on WiFi Calling while at work.
But since I'm upgrading my Verizon business blackberry to a Galaxy Nexus, I won't have to fool with it anymore.
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It does not have the GAN/UMA wifi calling they are referring to built in. CM7 has the built in Gingerbread SIP functionality.
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It does not have the GAN/UMA wifi calling they are referring to built in. CM7 has the built in Gingerbread SIP functionality.
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Exactly. CM7 built it in their roms, so hopefully CM9 will have it as well.
Probably won't happen until we start to see some Tmobile ICS phones with it included out of the box. The App is picky.
However I have heard that they are doing away with WiFi Calling (newer phones don't include it). I think they are moving to a new SIP platform and requires a new unreleased app.
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Exactly. CM7 built it in their roms, so hopefully CM9 will have it as well.
Probably won't happen until we start to see some Tmobile ICS phones with it included out of the box. The App is picky.
However I have heard that they are doing away with WiFi Calling (newer phones don't include it). I think they are moving to a new SIP platform and requires a new unreleased app.
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This only happens on some device specific configurations like the glacier. It's a moot point entirely if the RIL does not support the calls used by kineto like the Nexus S RIL.
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Does anyone know how I can get T-Mobile "My Account" app to actually pull up my info?
Are there any updates to this request? Haven't seen it lately and wondering if anyone has new information. Wi-fi calling for Tmobile.
Not sure if its possible, but I would like this too. Would be a huge plus.
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Does anyone know how I can get T-Mobile "My Account" app to actually pull up my info?
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The app does not work on ICS. T-Mobile has said so.
Sent from Galaxy Nexus (GSM)
nxt said:
The app does not work on ICS. T-Mobile has said so.
Sent from Galaxy Nexus (GSM)
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I thought it works now.
At least it shows my data usage and minutes.
rome425 said:
I thought it works now.
At least it shows my data usage and minutes.
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Oh I guess so, was updated March 25 and said now supports Android 4.0 ICS.
Didn't realize that. Good to know, thanks.
Just installed. Yep, fully supported, getting all the usage information.
krohnjw said:
No, there's a lot more to it.
The #1 thing that's going to be required is a radio interface layer that supports the necessary authentication calls to switch to GAN. This is assuming that the Kineto app and libraries work on ICS.
The thing that killed progress on the Nexus S was that we were never able to get a RIL that supported the necessary auth calls - and as a result it would never switch over to GAN, set up the tunnel, etc.
Kineto responded and blamed Google for "not requesting" support from the vendor for this feature. It's yet to be seen if it will work with the Galaxy Nexus. It's possible but I wouldn't count on it. Seeing as how the RIL is distributed as a closed source blob if it doesn't support it there aren't a lot of options.
At a minimum you need:
- A kernel with kineto_gan or gan-eth build in
- A vendor RIL that supports all of the auth calls to set up gan
- libganril, librilswitch and your vendor ril - librilswitch loads on boot and manages the handoff from the vendor ril (normal calling) to libganril (gan/wifi calling)
- Kineto app, libcryp98, modified libkineto that uses the local libcryp98 for ssl and tunneling.
- libaudio(I think) that has been modified to support the constructor called by kineto - it changed in Gingerbread and had to be modified to support the old call
- build.prop modified to use librilswitch, define the vendor and gan ril
It's been a while since I gave up on the port (After months of getting nowhere with Samsung or Kineto on a RIL and no RIL from other devices working on the Nexus S) so that list may be partially incomplete but it should at least give you a good starting point.
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Spoke to 3 different TMO support (to make sure) . They all said the GNEX does support the new WIFI calling, however its all depend on google or samsung to incorporate it. They gave me a number to call Samsung (I dont have it with me right now) to request WIFI calling for GNEX
hoodred said:
Spoke to 3 different TMO support (to make sure) . They all said the GNEX does support the new WIFI calling, however its all depend on google or samsung to incorporate it. They gave me a number to call Samsung (I dont have it with me right now) to request WIFI calling for GNEX
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I would love to hear some follow-up on this please
I know it's not a perfect solution but have you tried Bobsled calling app?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Another "not perfect" solution, But if you send your # to Google Voice, then there are a bunch of app's that can do Wifi calling very well. I use it while traveling overseas for work.
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Are we going to see this come to Ice Cream Sandwich ever?
I suppose the most logical move will be for the devs to wait until ICS comes out on a T-mobile device that also has wifi calling.
But that aside - does anyone know of any progress with this application?
captainreynolds said:
Are we going to see this come to Ice Cream Sandwich ever?
I suppose the most logical move will be for the devs to wait until ICS comes out on a T-mobile device that also has wifi calling.
But that aside - does anyone know of any progress with this application?
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I think that one version had it working with the GB wifi call but it has since broken, so I think it will work after kinks are sorted out
Wifi calling is incredibly low on the priority list for most devs right now, but the fact that someone manged to get it working means the outlook is good.
But to answer your other question, yes a Tmobile ICS device with wifi calling will be tremendous help. And I'm sure one is coming
Looking forward to new ICS-Smartphones with Wifi-Calling. I think it comes nearly.
Shouldn't there be a way to access tmo's uma access points using our internet call settings? Might flash back to cm7 just to get the apns...
Sent from my Andromadus ICS HTC Vision using TapaTalk
I think there is some other sim verification that the wifi calling app does that cm7's internet calling does not that allows you to use whatever t-mobile has in place online.
Anyhoo - thanks for the responses - glad to hear it is coming at least sometime in the future!
This is the only reason I'm not upgrading yet. I get poor service at my house.
need help, nothing helped and no wifi yet
Came across this thread. So I thought I'd update you since I last worked on it.
Currently it seems we have to wait for T-mo to release an updated libkineto.so and possibly other libs.
I got it to half work...
SMS/MMS (working)
Recieving a Call (kinda)
Calling out (kinda)
The problems with the actual voice calling are:
-Headset speaker cuts out when proximity sensor kicks in
-When receiving a call it sometimes will work on speaker phone and sometimes there will be intermittent cut outs and long delays. Sometimes it works perfectly fine
-Calling out will only work on the first call and then will require a reboot.
After either type of call the app will freeze and FC.
I'm a novice at developing so there is only so much I can figure out on my own.
However I think it also has some part with how the Roms are working, e.g. Sound cutting out when proxy sensor trips.
If you want to at least know when someone is calling you and send text I attached it, will work across all ICS roms.
Thanks to jerl92 for building a flashable .zip for me
Should be great strides in this with the upcoming release of the One S, all reviews I have seen indicate working wifi calling.
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2
HTC One S has Tmobile Wifi Calling
According to ZDNET we'll get our wish soon as HTC One S for T-mobile has the wifi calling app built in, I can't make a link yet cause I'm a forum noob
One S WiFi Calling
This is a little discouraging
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1613767
Read the second post...LAME
BTTRDYZ said:
This is a little discouraging
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1613767
Read the second post...LAME
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Hmm....ok. Strange because Engadget listed Wifi Calling as "good" bloatware on the One S, which indicates an app.
But I imagine that it can still be ported, just implemented through the framework rather than an app. I think. Devs in the development section would know better.
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Nospin said:
Hmm....ok. Strange because Engadget listed Wifi Calling as "good" bloatware on the One S, which indicates an app.
But I imagine that it can still be ported, just implemented through the framework rather than an app. I think. Devs in the development section would know better.
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2
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Yeah - I'm sure someone will figure out - developers have gotten past much bigger obstacles!
FYI, I've been monitoring this thread looking for the ICS WiFi calling app, but found it elsewhere so thought I'd share in case anyone else is watching this thread. EdKeys has it for Desire/G2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1664106) and bigmoew for Sensation (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1654940)
Looks like very recently something has been added to the CM9 repository:
Code:
Merge "pyramid: enable T-Mobile USA wifi calling" into ics
MERGED ON JUN 04TH AT 22:05:33 IN ANDROID_DEVICE_HTC_PYRAMID
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Looks like very recently something has been added to the CM9 repository:
Code:
Merge "pyramid: enable T-Mobile USA wifi calling" into ics
MERGED ON JUN 04TH AT 22:05:33 IN ANDROID_DEVICE_HTC_PYRAMID
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That merge is actually just the params to support wifi calling, and it's not for our device. That said, the entirety of that patch in CM9 is included in what you flash with EdKeys' wifi calling flashable zips.
Looking for a modded version of Gtalk that allows video over 3G/H+. I can make Skype video calls on the connection so there's no reason its not possible on Gtalk. If anyone has the know how it would be highly appreciated!
I'm assuming some code would have to be modified that allows AT&T to block the connection when its being made. That or Gtalk has code blocking connections without Wi-Fi. Either way I'm sure it can be changed, just don't have the know how.
Thanks
Zane
SQLITE didn't work for me - But gtalkenabler in the Play store works!
I beleive this is a restriction thru at&t. I don't remember EVER seeing a modded version of gtalk that will allow video calling over at&t's 3g/4g HSPA network. Even with the modded version for gingerbread, it never worked 100% with video over 3g for at&t. Someone told me it's something with at&t that is blocking this. Also, you need to be rooted for a modded version of gtalk to be installed.
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I beleive this is a restriction thru at&t. I don't remember EVER seeing a modded version of gtalk that will allow video calling over at&t's 3g/4g HSPA network. Even with the modded version for gingerbread, it never worked 100% with video over 3g for at&t. Someone told me it's something with at&t that is blocking this. Also, you need to be rooted for a modded version of gtalk to be installed.
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There's no reason to mod the APK. Just override it in the gservices DB (root needed)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13389675&postcount=24
FYI - Last update to one x is now allowing GTalk video over wifi with no root needed. It must have been the 1.28 update because I was NOT able to get this working until I just tried it again after the update. I am NOT rooted also. This is real good news. - FYI - This is NOT working in other phones from at&t as it's still not working on my friends vivid with ICS update. Atleast for non-rooted people.
krohnjw said:
There's no reason to mod the APK. Just override it in the gservices DB (root needed)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13389675&postcount=24
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the gservices.db seems to have changed with gtalk 4.0.4 the 'gtalk_vc_wifi_only' entry is no longer there ?
Any thoughts on being able to activate video over data ?
It may be premature to mention this since I just got a notification from the bugzilla list that this bug was possibly fixed and to try out the new one, which is here:
http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com/files/wifi_tether_v3_2-pre2.apk
And this was the bug database issue if you want to read about it: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1574&q=jelly bean
But: It appears to work fine. Yeah, I've also been using the built-in hotspot which is fine, but it has almost no settings and tags packets differently, so maybe some people will prefer this method. I tried the Verizon version. You have to go into device settings and choose the CDMA Galaxy Nexus device (or whichever fits you exactly).
Good luck. Sorry if it doesn't work for someone else.
hachamacha said:
It may be premature to mention this since I just got a notification from the bugzilla list that this bug was possibly fixed and to try out the new one, which is here:
http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com/files/wifi_tether_v3_2-pre2.apk
And this was the bug database issue if you want to read about it: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1574&q=jelly bean
But: It appears to work fine. Yeah, I've also been using the built-in hotspot which is fine, but it has almost no settings and tags packets differently, so maybe some people will prefer this method. I tried the Verizon version. You have to go into device settings and choose the CDMA Galaxy Nexus device (or whichever fits you exactly).
Good luck. Sorry if it doesn't work for someone else.
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i just use Foxfi, works great through either wifi or bluetooth tethering.
tomh1979 said:
i just use Foxfi, works great through either wifi or bluetooth tethering.
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I meant for Jelly Bean, for which, I think, all but the built-in hotspot had stopped working due to API changes. Anyway, this was just about this one free good way to tether.
Works
Verified it works on Sprint Galaxy Nexus. I prefer using this app to tether as it allows tethering over 4G, previously the built in app would only tether 3G
I was wondering if there is any way to flash a international rom and implement the Wifi Calling back in the settings. Want to run wanamlite with Wifi Calling? Is this possible? Perhaps an apk for Wifi Calling. It is a T-Mobile device
Zackg111 said:
I was wondering if there is any way to flash a international rom and implement the Wifi Calling back in the settings. Want to run wanamlite with Wifi Calling? Is this possible? Perhaps an apk for Wifi Calling. It is a T-Mobile device
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Not yet. Its more than just an apk, which can be easily extracted and installed on any device. It needs a lot of libs to go with it, and those are pretty closed sourced and hard to figure out.
There is a team trying to reverse engineer it to get it working on non stock ROMs. They are doing it for another device but once its done it should in theory work for any device. Last I heard there was a sizable bounty of promised donations if they could get it working, so I'm sure they are motivated.
Many people will tell you this is and will always be impossible. But the WiFi calling app was hacked and made installable for ICS AOSP ROMs. So its been done before. They JB version is apparently tougher, but the software that couldn't be hack has yet to be developed yet as far as I am aware. Its jus a matter of if XDA's devas are smarter than T Mobile's devs
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Skipjacks said:
Not yet. Its more than just an apk, which can be easily extracted and installed on any device. It needs a lot of libs to go with it, and those are pretty closed sourced and hard to figure out.
There is a team trying to reverse engineer it to get it working on non stock ROMs. They are doing it for another device but once its done it should in theory work for any device. Last I heard there was a sizable bounty of promised donations if they could get it working, so I'm sure they are motivated.
Many people will tell you this is and will always be impossible. But the WiFi calling app was hacked and made installable for ICS AOSP ROMs. So its been done before. They JB version is apparently tougher, but the software that couldn't be hack has yet to be developed yet as far as I am aware. Its jus a matter of if XDA's devas are smarter than T Mobile's devs
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Thank you for the evaluated answer. I thought it was more along the lines of possibly working because of it originally having Wifi Calling. Its not like making it work on att or verizon. I thought it would be more of a verification issues with other carriers.
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Thank you for the evaluated answer. I thought it was more along the lines of possibly working because of it originally having Wifi Calling. Its not like making it work on att or verizon. I thought it would be more of a verification issues with other carriers.
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I'm 100% positive it will never work on other carriers (unless they introduce their own wifi calling app that woks on their networks)
The app itself checks your SD card and makes sure that you have a T Mobile account before authenticating you on T Mobile's server. So if you're on an AT&T SIM card it won't matter how well you get the app working, the app won't let you use AT&T accounts on the T Mobile wifi calling server.
Skipjacks said:
I'm 100% positive it will never work on other carriers (unless they introduce their own wifi calling app that woks on their networks)
The app itself checks your SD card and makes sure that you have a T Mobile account before authenticating you on T Mobile's server. So if you're on an AT&T SIM card it won't matter how well you get the app working, the app won't let you use AT&T accounts on the T Mobile wifi calling server.
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Ok I am on T-Mobile anyways. I figured that would never work especially with your normal number.
Keep an eye on this Dev, fingers crossed here!
Zackg111 said:
I was wondering if there is any way to flash a international rom and implement the Wifi Calling back in the settings. Want to run wanamlite with Wifi Calling? Is this possible? Perhaps an apk for Wifi Calling. It is a T-Mobile device
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Skipjacks said:
Not yet. Its more than just an apk, which can be easily extracted and installed on any device. It needs a lot of libs to go with it, and those are pretty closed sourced and hard to figure out.
There is a team trying to reverse engineer it to get it working on non stock ROMs. They are doing it for another device but once its done it should in theory work for any device. Last I heard there was a sizable bounty of promised donations if they could get it working, so I'm sure they are motivated.
Many people will tell you this is and will always be impossible. But the WiFi calling app was hacked and made installable for ICS AOSP ROMs. So its been done before. They JB version is apparently tougher, but the software that couldn't be hack has yet to be developed yet as far as I am aware. Its jus a matter of if XDA's devas are smarter than T Mobile's devs
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302313
I'm hoping that when the Google Edition of the S4 comes out that T-Mobile picks it up and they have to disclose stuff for WiFi calling to be enabled properly in AOSP.
cosine83 said:
I'm hoping that when the Google Edition of the S4 comes out that T-Mobile picks it up and they have to disclose stuff for WiFi calling to be enabled properly in AOSP.
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I hope that Keidi Klum will show up at my door to deliver a briefcase full of money.
If you and I get together maybe we can start a support group for people who's hopes don't come true.
Fact is that the WiFi calling app is closed source proprietary stuff. It will get hacked by XDA, but T Mobile is never going to willingly release it. They have a vested interest in getting you to buy the phone from T Mobile. Why would they take away something that encouraged you to do that?
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Hi,
after using the CM13 for awhile, I need to find working replacement.
Honestly CM13 was slower and less responsive compared to CM12 on the Maguro.
However I need working and up to date ROM to install Android Auto, working GPS, ability to use Play Store.
I'm not keen to use latest the greatest as I have also Nexus 6, where I run 7.1.1
Maguro is mainly used for car navigation, I need at least Android 5 based one.
Thanks all!
Decisions, Decisions...
TodNex said:
Hi,
after using the CM13 for awhile, I need to find working replacement.
Honestly CM13 was slower and less responsive compared to CM12 on the Maguro.
However I need working and up to date ROM to install Android Auto, working GPS, ability to use Play Store.
I'm not keen to use latest the greatest as I have also Nexus 6, where I run 7.1.1
Maguro is mainly used for car navigation, I need at least Android 5 based one.
Thanks all!
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I have a pair of recommendations for you and your maguro GNex; both are N-based, at that.
There is Unlegacy 7.1 (AOSP-based 7.1), which is - for now - the ONLY 7.1 or later-based ROM that can be reliably installed clean. The usual prerequisites apply (root and third-party recovery - I've used TWRP extensively with this ROM, and all versions from 2.7.1.0 to 3.0.2.0 will work with it). My other recommendation is PureNexus 7.1.1; contrary to Unlegacy, it should be installed as an upgrade - in other words, do NOT wipe before installing. You can install the newer GApps along with the ROM the same way, or let the update process handle GApp upgrading - both methods, in fact, work.
Which you should choose may well depend on whether or not you want either GoogleAssistant and/or Pixel Launcher. Pixel Launcher is, in fact, included with PureNexus 7.1.1 - as is Google Assistant; Google Assistant is addable to Unlegacy 7.1; however, I could not get Pixel Launcher to install on it. Pixel Launcher WILL work with Google Assistant - PureNexus is plenty of hard data on that front. What I like about PureNexus is that it has a lot of customization designed-in - including options that no other firmware offers; it reminds me a lot of Object Desktop for Windows, to be honest.
Both Unlegacy and PureNexus are unified; they will install the same way on any version of tuna-based hardware - maguro, toro, and toroplus (GSM, CDMA, and W-CDMA/Sprint, respectively) You would no more lose features by not running on toro hardware than I do by not running on maguro hardware..
PGHammer said:
(...)My other recommendation is PureNexus 7.1.1; (..).
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I could not find that for maguro. Are you sure?
Thank you!
will give them a try
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I could not find that for maguro. Are you sure?
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The original developer has maguro; however, it was developed as neutral; there are (literally) no maguro-isms in the code (I myself have toro hardware, and the phone in question is ex-VZW and is on the VZW-powered half of Tracfone's network).
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I could not find that for maguro. Are you sure?
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http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120698603
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http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120698603
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Thanks!
But there is no website or discussion thread regarding PureNexus for "Tuna", is it?
Ahkah said:
Thanks!
But there is no website or discussion thread regarding PureNexus for "Tuna", is it?
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I think not.
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Thanks!
But there is no website or discussion thread regarding PureNexus for "Tuna", is it?
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Reason...!! Here it is [ https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69354816&postcount=16 ]
__Madddy said:
Reason...!! Here it is [ https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69354816&postcount=16 ]
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Thanks! On the other hand: One could try to use Google Translate for translations from Japanese to English. This might be better than nothing.
That's a damn fast ROM! Really enjoyed it.
Big thanks to the devs
TodNex said:
Hi,
after using the CM13 for awhile, I need to find working replacement.
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The same main developers created CM 12, CM 13, and Unlegacy 7.1, so those are what I would suggest! Not many choices!
So far Unlegacy 7.1 is far better handling than CM13. I'm impressed
PGHammer said:
The original developer has maguro; however, it was developed as neutral; there are (literally) no maguro-isms in the code (I myself have toro hardware, and the phone in question is ex-VZW and is on the VZW-powered half of Tracfone's network).
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How's mobile network stuff working for you? I've got a toro on Page Plus (which is now also using 'the VZW-powered half of Tracfone's network'). I had been trying to get mobile data working on unlegacy-7.1, but I gave up a while ago. My daily driver had been cm13, but when Page Plus changed their APNs to tracfone, it broke mobile data and it took me better than a week to figure out what was going on. I got sick of it and switched to unlegacy-4.4 (which is a great ROM, by the way).
tl;dr: Do mobile data and mms work for you on a toro on tracfone?
musical_chairs said:
How's mobile network stuff working for you? I've got a toro on Page Plus (which is now also using 'the VZW-powered half of Tracfone's network'). I had been trying to get mobile data working on unlegacy-7.1, but I gave up a while ago. My daily driver had been cm13, but when Page Plus changed their APNs to tracfone, it broke mobile data and it took me better than a week to figure out what was going on. I got sick of it and switched to unlegacy-4.4 (which is a great ROM, by the way).
tl;dr: Do mobile data and mms work for you on a toro on tracfone?
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I am not a fan of mobile data (as I don't get that much of it) - in fact, I prefer wi-fi (not mobile data) as I am almost ALWAYS near either a hotspot or a router; for that reason, I can't really reply to that question. I've never had issues with either SMS or MMS on Unlegacy or PureNexus for Tuna (which I installed as an upgrade from Unlegacy). Are you, in fact, aware that MMS and SMS CAN be used over wi-fi (yes; Google Hangouts supports the feature)?
PGHammer said:
Are you, in fact, aware that MMS and SMS CAN be used over wi-fi (yes; Google Hangouts supports the feature)?
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Sure, I can send MMS from hangouts over WiFi, but when people send group messages / MMS to my mobile phone number? Only way to receive them is over mobile data. Unless I'm missing something, and there's a way to receive MMS's to your phone number over WiFi with Page Plus? But even if I could, I don't have access to WiFi at my day job.
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musical_chairs said:
Sure, I can send MMS from hangouts over WiFi, but when people send group messages / MMS to my mobile phone number? Only way to receive them is over mobile data. Unless I'm missing something, and there's a way to receive MMS's to your phone number over WiFi with Page Plus? But even if I could, I don't have access to WiFi at my day job.
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If you are in a situation where you can only be called (job-wise), usually, calling you would ALSO be a bad move - basically, if you can only be reached via mobile (voice or data), unless it's work-related, doing so would ALSO be of the bad - correct? It's also why if someone wants to MMS/SMS me, via my e-mail address (which is the default) is preferable to using my phone number - also, there are people that actually find easier to MMS/SMS me that I would rather NOT have call me. (It's an old habit from using older MMS/SMS clients - such as Yahoo Messenger - I only give out my phone number to those I am willing to actually talk to on a phone. In other words, instead of phone-number-based MMS/SMS, use your GMail-based address instead - which will help keep your mobile-data bill down. There SHOULD be a setting - either in Messaging or Hangouts - as to which to use by default. (Such a setting is NOT in Messenger.)
PGHammer said:
If you are in a situation where you can only be called (job-wise), usually, calling you would ALSO be a bad move - basically, if you can only be reached via mobile (voice or data), unless it's work-related, doing so would ALSO be of the bad - correct?
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Of course you are right, and the phone gets ignored while I'm at work unless it's something urgent. But I'm not about to change my cell number to an 'unlisted number' that only a select few people know, and force all my friends and acquaintances to use another service to contact me. And people WILL send MMS's, usually apple users who cannot grasp why I wouldn't be able to get their 'group messages'. "You didn't get the message? Why not? You should just get an iphone!" Makes me sick.
But saying "you can mostly replace MMS with another service that uses WiFi" is different than saying "You can send and receive MMS over WiFi". And last I checked, neither mobile data nor MMS works on unlegacy-7.1 on toro.
So for now, I've replaced cm13 with unlegacy-4.4 and everything is working great. Once the SELinux stuff is straightened out with unlegacy-7.1 I will probably revisit that and see if I can get everything working.
musical_chairs said:
Of course you are right, and the phone gets ignored while I'm at work unless it's something urgent. But I'm not about to change my cell number to an 'unlisted number' that only a select few people know, and force all my friends and acquaintances to use another service to contact me. And people WILL send MMS's, usually apple users who cannot grasp why I wouldn't be able to get their 'group messages'. "You didn't get the message? Why not? You should just get an iphone!" Makes me sick.
But saying "you can mostly replace MMS with another service that uses WiFi" is different than saying "You can send and receive MMS over WiFi". And last I checked, neither mobile data nor MMS works on unlegacy-7.1 on toro.
So for now, I've replaced cm13 with unlegacy-4.4 and everything is working great. Once the SELinux stuff is straightened out with unlegacy-7.1 I will probably revisit that and see if I can get everything working.
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That is why I asked what APP are you using for MMS. If you are using a phone-specific MMS app, it won't work over wi-fi (Messaging is such an example). Hangouts, however, does work over wi-fi (I have Hangouts on my tablet because it WORKS on it; Messaging does not). For messaging (and especially because I have both an Android tablet AND an Android phone - and I've had the tablet the longest) I tend to go with tablet-capable messaging apps - not ones that only work with phones. (Phone-specific apps in general are, in fact, my biggest gripe with Android as a platform.) MMS and SMS are not platform-specific in and of themselves - individual apps, however, can be. (Messaging is phone-specific; however, Hangouts isn't. That is, in fact, why I recommend Hangouts as a Messaging replacement - it's not limited to phones.) Messenger isn't limited to phones, either (not Facebook Messenger, but Google Messenger). This is, unfortunately why both app choice AND platform choice can matter. Therefore I can recommend either Hangouts or Google Messenger (for two reasons - neither is limited to phones OR to mobile data). So don't change your firmware; that's not the problem. - just use a different MMS and/or SMS app.
PGHammer said:
That is why I asked what APP are you using for MMS. ..... So don't change your firmware; that's not the problem. - just use a different MMS and/or SMS app.
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Actually, I use Signal as my messaging app. It uses WiFi if the messages are between Signal users. But no matter what app I use, if somebody sends an MMS to my mobile number, there's no way to get it other than to actually have mobile data and MMS working. No app that I've ever heard of can access Verizon's MMS servers and retrieve messages from there over WiFi. Except Verizon Messenger, But that's only available to on-contract customers, not prepaid MVNO users like me. When Hangouts sends messages to non-hangouts users, they are sent using a completely different phone number, and I don't want that either.
Anyway, this discussion started as a simple question of "Does MMS work for you?" which you've answered, "No." We obviously have different communications needs.