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Warranty - Samsung US vs. Grey Market

If and when the GSM model becomes available for sale in the US, what will the experience be if I need to do a warranty exchange through Samsung US? Would it be much easier and quicker than purchasing it through grey market? (ie. Expansys, Negri, etc) I assume with both instances, if something were to happen with my device, it would take many weeks to get it back from repair. If something did happen, I could also go with a local phone repair shop I suppose.
Also, if the GSM model became available in the US through Best Buy, would their black tie warranty service be better than the above options?
I guess Im just used to T-Mobile service where they send you a warranty replacement before you send in your defective device!
Thanks!

If Best Buy starts carrying the GSM model I would get it there. Not that I like the place much (used to work there and couldn't wait to get out) but they honor the manufacturers warranty. This gives you a storefront to take the phone to in case it needs repair. Also they do offer a warranty that covers accidents due to drops and spills but if I recall correctly it cost too much and if you are careful or have it in a case you should be fine.

Bigsam411 said:
If Best Buy starts carrying the GSM model I would get it there. Not that I like the place much (used to work there and couldn't wait to get out) but they honor the manufacturers warranty. This gives you a storefront to take the phone to in case it needs repair. Also they do offer a warranty that covers accidents due to drops and spills but if I recall correctly it cost too much and if you are careful or have it in a case you should be fine.
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Thanks, yeah I wouldn't need accidental coverage, Im usually very good with phones. After a year of use on a phone I barely have any scratches on it. I just have had bad luck in the past with hardware defects, overheating etc.

mstyle88 said:
Thanks, yeah I wouldn't need accidental coverage, Im usually very good with phones. After a year of use on a phone I barely have any scratches on it. I just have had bad luck in the past with hardware defects, overheating etc.
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I hear you. I've had two HTC phones, and both had parts fail on me. So I'm looking for a warranty as well.
I don't want to wait for a US release. Who knows when the GSM will be released. I haven't heard any rumors, so it could be awhile. I'm going to wait for the Canadian release (Dec 8th). Supposedly, you'll be able to buy it off contract for $650. And if anything happens to it, the wait time won't be as bad as shipping it back across the Atlantic.

Man_Utd said:
I hear you. I've had two HTC phones, and both had parts fail on me. So I'm looking for a warranty as well.
I don't want to wait for a US release. Who knows when the GSM will be released. I haven't heard any rumors, so it could be awhile. I'm going to wait for the Canadian release (Dec 8th). Supposedly, you'll be able to buy it off contract for $650. And if anything happens to it, the wait time won't be as bad as shipping it back across the Atlantic.
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I was thinking of the same plan of getting the Canadian version of the phone. But there is one little bitty set back, the two carriers getting it on the 8th (one if you count one is a MVNO) is Bell and Virgin. Both use CDMA. So that one is a no go. The Rodgers one coming next month will work however.

Lil Jones said:
I was thinking of the same plan of getting the Canadian version of the phone. But there is one little bitty set back, the two carriers getting it on the 8th (one if you count one is a MVNO) is Bell and Virgin. Both use CDMA. So that one is a no go. The Rodgers one coming next month will work however.
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I checked out Bell and Virgin. Both have specs of the phone and they both have the frequencies necessary for Tmo US. Check it out (I would post the link but I'm too new).
I remember someone saying Canada ditched CDMA awhile ago.

I emailed Squaretrade and while I didnt get an exact answer, it sounds like if you are a UK customer buying from one of these establishments then you can buy a warranty and be covered. I didnt ask about US stores like Negri or Expansys. I'll send the question to them and report back.

Negri said when it first launched that they will honor the year warranty for you.
but i emailed them and asked about unlocking the bootloader and getting the warranty still and they said it's up to samsung UK.
so just remember, if you unlock the bootloader and you imported you may be screwed.

Lil Jones said:
I was thinking of the same plan of getting the Canadian version of the phone. But there is one little bitty set back, the two carriers getting it on the 8th (one if you count one is a MVNO) is Bell and Virgin. Both use CDMA. So that one is a no go. The Rodgers one coming next month will work however.
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That statement is incorrect, bell and virgin are no longer using CDMA, i am a customer with bell and all new phones now use sim cards on the gsm network.

neok44 said:
Negri said when it first launched that they will honor the year warranty for you.
but i emailed them and asked about unlocking the bootloader and getting the warranty still and they said it's up to samsung UK.
so just remember, if you unlock the bootloader and you imported you may be screwed.
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I've read that people have already confirmed that fastboot oem lock works fine on the Galaxy Nexus, so it really shouldn't be a problem.

From what I've heard if you purchased your phone from expansys-usa then all you need to do is send your phone to them and they will send it to Samsung for repairs. That's the reason I bought it from them.

If you check the "Expansys USA Now Shipping" forum, you'll see quite a bit of information on the Warranty situation. Just search the thread for Warranty.
OP: should you move the Warranty parts of that thread to this one so it is consolidated and easier to find?

If you bought from Handtec, they also said that you can send the phone back to them and they'll take care of the warranty process w/ Samsung UK as well, although it's obviously a little more costly to send to them than to Expansys-USA.

wrayrb said:
If you check the "Expansys USA Now Shipping" forum, you'll see quite a bit of information on the Warranty situation. Just search the thread for Warranty.
OP: should you move the Warranty parts of that thread to this one so it is consolidated and easier to find?
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Good idea, I'll try compiling what I find either this afternoon or the weekend.

I bought mine from Expansys USA and they honor the one year Samsung manufacturer warranty. Just send it to them if there is an issue and they will send it to Samsung for repairs or warranty replacement. Yes, you may have to wait longer to get the phone back, but you still have a year warranty, and it's better to have this lovely device in my hands now than to wait until who knows when for the US to stock this officially somewhere. Go with Expansys, they shipped out right away and they know their products. Just my two cents.

nyijedi said:
I've read that people have already confirmed that fastboot oem lock works fine on the Galaxy Nexus, so it really shouldn't be a problem.
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well thats good. i remember when i first got my Nexus One and the devs made it very clear that once you unlocked there was no going back, at the time.

If you buy "Grey Market" it is a roll of the dice---NO Warranty
mstyle88 said:
If and when the GSM model becomes available for sale in the US, what will the experience be if I need to do a warranty exchange through Samsung US? Would it be much easier and quicker than purchasing it through grey market? (ie. Expansys, Negri, etc) I assume with both instances, if something were to happen with my device, it would take many weeks to get it back from repair. If something did happen, I could also go with a local phone repair shop I suppose.
Also, if the GSM model became available in the US through Best Buy, would their black tie warranty service be better than the above options?
I guess Im just used to T-Mobile service where they send you a warranty replacement before you send in your defective device!
Thanks!
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If you happen to buy a Samsung product from a Grey market dealer they will give you nothing but a cold shoulder...period. I bought a S5 2 months ago on EBay and it shot craps and the seller (some jerks in Houston Texas just say screw you) and when I called Samsung USA they basiically were nice until they found out it wasn't and "official" USA import. I now own a $600 brick. The "international warranty is in Farsi, so you can imagine I won't be sending it back to Iran for service.

ATT rep said my recent warranty claim was the 1st one made?

Certainly that can't be right.
Nevertheless, I have to say my experience getting my bricked phone (my fault entirely) replaced throught the ATT warranty dept went very well.
They even included overnight shipping, didn't require me to ship mine back 1st and included a return shipping label for my crapped out phone. I made the claim Friday and received my new phone Monday 11 am.
Well done ATT.

Congratulations!
What can you advise me to do with my bricked phone? I bought my phone from eBay and I live in Israel. I think that will not be able to replace my phone for a new one. Only if I'll send it directly to LG. But will there be something to do?

Machzelet said:
Congratulations!
What can you advise me to do with my bricked phone? I bought my phone from eBay and I live in Israel. I think that will not be able to replace my phone for a new one. Only if I'll send it directly to LG. But will there be something to do?
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Maybe LG but ATT won't do anything for you unless your a customer. And usually warrenty is not outside of the country you got it from.
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I think this particular ATT Rep was smoking salmon...I have returned 2 already due to warranty stuff and will probably be selling the next replacement I get...the rep at my local store wasn't overly enthused with the phone and said that was the consensus.
On a lighter note they were very helpful with getting this taken care of and doing so very quickly...
scott0 said:
Certainly that can't be right.
Nevertheless, I have to say my experience getting my bricked phone (my fault entirely) replaced throught the ATT warranty dept went very well.
They even included overnight shipping, didn't require me to ship mine back 1st and included a return shipping label for my crapped out phone. I made the claim Friday and received my new phone Monday 11 am.
Well done ATT.
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Machzelet said:
Congratulations!
What can you advise me to do with my bricked phone? I bought my phone from eBay and I live in Israel. I think that will not be able to replace my phone for a new one. Only if I'll send it directly to LG. But will there be something to do?
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I don't have AT&T so despite living in the USA, I sent my phone directly to LG. (I use an AT&T MVNO, so I don't get support from AT&T) LG repaired it free of charge and mailed it back. So I guess LG does something right.

fishscale28 said:
I think this particular ATT Rep was smoking salmon...I have returned 2 already due to warranty stuff and will probably be selling the next replacement I get...the rep at my local store wasn't overly enthused with the phone and said that was the consensus.
On a lighter note they were very helpful with getting this taken care of and doing so very quickly...
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what's been the issue(s) with your phones?
Generally, I tend to find local store rep's opinions to be, well, less than they should be. After using this phone for 2+ months I'm unsure why a local store rep would not communicate the benefits of this device as opposed to their lack of enthusiasm for it.

I don't think the phone is so bad...I think there are lots of great things about it. I love the screen, it has the potential to be so quick and snappy and really could be an all around awesome phone...I just realized the fact that updates were going to be a little slower towards this phone and it seemed like making any slight mod (firmware/rom wise) would work but had a much higher failure rate than I think anyone was looking for-hence my looking to move on...
The specific issues with my phone were a short or something that just hard bricked the phone without warning and without any mods...at all. It just turned off one day and nothing could ever, every be done to get it back on. Strange.... the second phone has never been quite right after installing a rom and the boot loops and not being able to reboot was kind of a turn off. Plus the speaker in the earpiece has been a bit wonky so I decided to do a warranty return and then move on from there.
And you're right...some of the reps seem to be way off from what's realistic...you can tell they definitely play favorites and seem to be very partial and unsupportive. But at least they were helpful!

kernelpan1c said:
I don't have AT&T so despite living in the USA, I sent my phone directly to LG. (I use an AT&T MVNO, so I don't get support from AT&T) LG repaired it free of charge and mailed it back. So I guess LG does something right.
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Did you get your repaired phone back? How long did it take? Get me some tips what I need to do, where to send?

Machzelet said:
Did you get your repaired phone back? How long did it take? Get me some tips what I need to do, where to send?
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I called LG Customer Service and told them the device wouldn't power up. (I had done a battery pull and it totally hardware bricked the device.) They had me send it to Stellar Wireless with the Repair Authorization # they gave me. I got it back within 7 business days.

scott0 said:
Certainly that can't be right.
Nevertheless, I have to say my experience getting my bricked phone (my fault entirely) replaced throught the ATT warranty dept went very well.
They even included overnight shipping, didn't require me to ship mine back 1st and included a return shipping label for my crapped out phone. I made the claim Friday and received my new phone Monday 11 am.
Well done ATT.
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Exchanging in a store during your 30 day buyers remorse period is different than exchanging through warranty. You might have exchanged it several times in store, but to AT&T's warranty department, this is the first time. They keep track of how many warranty claims you make, once you get to a certain point they usually allow you to try something different.
As for AT&T store reps, many of them base their opinions on phones on popularity, return rate, etc. The Nitro/Optimus LTE is an awesome phone, but it isn't very popular saleswise.
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kernelpan1c said:
I called LG Customer Service and told them the device wouldn't power up. (I had done a battery pull and it totally hardware bricked the device.) They had me send it to Stellar Wireless with the Repair Authorization # they gave me. I got it back within 7 business days.
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One problem - I live in Israel, and in my country this device is officially not for sale. So I do not know how and where to call and send the device. I have no idea what to do.

AT&T reps were trained to lie to customers. I had to turn in my SGS2 twice for exchange, and both times I was told I was the first to exchange the SGS2.

Machzelet said:
One problem - I live in Israel, and in my country this device is officially not for sale. So I do not know how and where to call and send the device. I have no idea what to do.
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I would go to the LG swebsite and look for a way to contact them about a warranty exchange or repair.
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iwireless.com selling the GSM Galaxy Nexus...$699

Called iwireless.com today...and they are indeed selling the GSM Galaxy Nexus. They'll even sell them to non-customers, though they told me they only have one left right now, but they're getting more Friday.
This is the FIRST time the GSM pentaband has been sold in the USA, correct? This is huge to me, because it comes with a USA warranty. The last thing I want is to import the phone, and then Samsung won't even service it.
So do you think the iwireless version is the exact same as the world phone? Like if I buy an imported phone, will Samsung even know the difference, or will they say "sorry, yours is grey market, it can't be serviced here." Possibly by the IMEI number?
Very intriguing. I'm of course hoping that T-mobile gets it for real soon. Still waiting to hear what the SGH-T999 is. Anyone buy one of these from iwireless?
http://www.iwireless.com/phones_detail.asp?pid=228

699, lol? seriously?

Already threads on this. The price is ludicrous.

I work for this company and yes it's the same one.
I can't believe how much attention we have been getting. We are a small regional carrier and I understand we are the first here to get GSM version but I was surprised how many android sites had posted about our company selling the phone.
The phone is nice but it's getting old fast and I think it's overpriced. I will actually be sticking to my AOSP sensation...dual flash, 8mp camera, sd card slot, yum.

nathan118 said:
Called iwireless.com today...and they are indeed selling the GSM Galaxy Nexus. They'll even sell them to non-customers, though they told me they only have one left right now, but they're getting more Friday.
This is the FIRST time the GSM pentaband has been sold in the USA, correct? This is huge to me, because it comes with a USA warranty. The last thing I want is to import the phone, and then Samsung won't even service it.
So do you think the iwireless version is the exact same as the world phone? Like if I buy an imported phone, will Samsung even know the difference, or will they say "sorry, yours is grey market, it can't be serviced here." Possibly by the IMEI number?
Very intriguing. I'm of course hoping that T-mobile gets it for real soon. Still waiting to hear what the SGH-T999 is. Anyone buy one of these from iwireless?
http://www.iwireless.com/phones_detail.asp?pid=228
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I bought mine back in January from Fry's Electronics in store. Not sure how the warrany works with them but I had a problem with the one I bought and took it back to the store where they swapped it out for another one (new in the box) after verifying that it was a manufacturing defect.

Just spoke to a level 2 phone agent at Samsung Wireless US. The phones iwireless are selling are actually imported as well so they technically do not have US warranty. Any repairs or defects you might have will be done through iwireless, I'm assuming they'd have to swap it out or mail back to country of origin.
So we still have zero US support on galaxy nexus. I'm still trying to get my earpiece speaker fixed and they don't even have the part for it.

Its a small local carrier to me so they will handle defective ones just like any US carrier. They'll swap it out for a refurb and exchange it with Samsung.
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player911 said:
Its a small local carrier to me so they will handle defective ones just like any US carrier. They'll swap it out for a refurb and exchange it with Samsung.
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Not if they are importing the phone as posted above you. They would have to send the phone to another country for warranty repairs, unless they refurbish phones themselves. If you get a phone from them make sure you have a backup phone for the month it will be away getting repaired.
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Geez...what a rip off then for $700! The waiting continues...

nathan118 said:
Geez...what a rip off then for $700! The waiting continues...
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For what? Phone is for sale all over the internet.

martonikaj said:
For what? Phone is for sale all over the internet.
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For the phone to go on sale in the US and for Samsung USA to offer support. Have you not been paying attention?

Buying Directly from Google Play store will give me Worldwide Warranty?

I've been looking for that Answer for about a week now.
Will I get International warranty with the GNEX if I buy it directly from Google Play Store?
I'm Brazilian, living in California and going back to Brazil next month.
I've been craving for a galaxy nexus since I saw it selling for 400 at the google play store but could not yet discover whether it`s warranty will work in Brazil or not.
I had read the whole disclaimer about the phone`s warranty both in google's and samsung's website and yet still could not find anything regarding this.
Does Anyone know if the warranty for this phone, if bought directly from google, is an worldwide warranty?

gardenalle said:
I've been looking for that Answer for about a week now.
Will I get International warranty with the GNEX if I buy it directly from Google Play Store?
I'm Brazilian, living in California and going back to Brazil next month.
I've been craving for a galaxy nexus since I saw it selling for 400 at the google play store but could not yet discover whether it`s warranty will work in Brazil or not.
I had read the whole disclaimer about the phone`s warranty both in google's and samsung's website and yet still could not find anything regarding this.
Does Anyone know if the warranty for this phone, if bought directly from google, is an worldwide warranty?
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Surely they will only service it if you're still in the US. The exact same as no one in the US with a European version can get it serviced.

Is there any statement from google which clearly says that?
Because if it were like that why wouldnt they write that on their webpage?
I just cant find a reason why they wouldnt clearly state that as it would, at least, avoid many misunderstandings.

gardenalle said:
Is there any statement from google which clearly says that?
Because if it were like that why wouldnt they write that on their webpage?
I just cant find a reason why they wouldnt clearly state that as it would, at least, avoid many misunderstandings.
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Well I'm just basing it on the usual terms of warranties. As I said, look at everyone in the US with a European Galaxy Nexus that can't directly deal with Samsung Europe.
You can always call and ask.

As it is a US only deal, it is 99% a US only warranty.

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As it is a US only deal, it is 99% a US only warranty.
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If that's the case would I better buy the European one from amazon?
Or do you guys think that I wont get the warranty to work in brazil on neither of them?
The problem is that this phone is so f* expensive in Brazil, U$1000, and even buying it there, if it comes defective I have a good chance of being Samsunged by them, as they already did it to me refusing to exchange a defective galaxy 5.

gardenalle said:
If that's the case would I better buy the European one from amazon?
Or do you guys think that I wont get the warranty to work in brazil on neither of them?
The problem is that this phone is so f* expensive in Brazil, U$1000, and even buying it there, if it comes defective I have a good chance of being Samsunged by them, as they already did it to me refusing to exchange a defective galaxy 5.
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Just get a cheapo Google Play one or a Euro one if you can get a better deal. You probably won't have a warranty either way.

Well, any sort of support back in Brazil sucks anyway. Usually I don't rely on that to decide about an electronic device.
Yes, I'm Brazilian. Eventually, if you're lucky, you could find some decent support, but it will not the rule, just an isolated case.
Is it officially released there already?

Im from Venezuela (next to brazil) i bought mine from Amazon and i got no warranty neither from Google nor from samsung, i could always send to samsung europe, but meh, it will cost more the shipping than buying another phone lol..
And you always have XDA <3

It has warranty support only in the US. Trouble is, the warranty is actually the manufacturer's warranty, and Samsung's support is notoriously slow/bad. The only reason the US version is worth getting it's not all that much worth rooting the device (except maybe to overclock the processor).

Yeah, like the other guys said, it's only in the U.S. Although, if your phone breaks down while you're in Brazil, you can send it to any family or friends staying in the U.S. and have them ship it to Google or Samsung for you?

chancy319 said:
Yeah, like the other guys said, it's only in the U.S. Although, if your phone breaks down while you're in Brazil, you can send it to any family or friends staying in the U.S. and have them ship it to Google or Samsung for you?
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I could even do that but it's easier said than done. To send it to the US and try to get it back seems too risky taking brazilian post officers into account. And I can even get taxed again for doing that.
Is the failure margin of this phone that high? I don't plan to flash custom rooms or anything...
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gardenalle said:
I could even do that but it's easier said than done. To send it to the US and try to get it back seems too risky taking brazilian post officers into account. And I can even get taxed again for doing that.
Is the failure margin of this phone that high? I don't plan to flash custom rooms or anything...
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Well the failure rate of any phone is measurable for sure, but the odds aren't very high. Chances are you'll get the device and it'll work just fine.

Actually, my last 2 phones were dead at some point, Motorola defy and Optimus 3D.
My current atrix reboots itself sometimes but it's not something to get too worried about, at this point at least.
The thing is that all this new phones don't seem reliable at all.
If I am to buy a disposable phone again I will get mad. And unfortunately I've seen a lot of stories about failing gnexus.
Does someone knows the actual statistics about broken gnexus?
What is the most common problem with them?
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Surely they will only service it if you're still in the US. The exact same as no one in the US with a European version can get it serviced.
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I asked this question to apple and they told me that I could take any apple product into any apple store around the world and they would honor the warranty. I just need to provide proof of purchase.
Many laptop providers also provide international warranties.
What I would say to the OP, buy a phone that you know can be serviced in Brazil even if for a fee. For 400 its a steal. If you like, buy two and sell one when you get there at a profit and save the profit for the cost of having to repair the phone if it ever comes to that
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Apple warranty is really amazing.
My brother exchanged his ipod touch, bought in Italy, more than 4 times in Brazil.
If I knew Samsung's warranty were like theirs I would buy the phone with my eyes closed.
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gardenalle said:
Apple warranty is really amazing.
My brother exchanged his ipod touch, bought in Italy, more than 4 times in Brazil.
If I knew Samsung's warranty were like theirs I would buy the phone with my eyes closed.
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Apple doesn't cover International iPhones, only Brazilian ones, don't get fooled.
AND, the same as the others, the warranty is a lottery. Already had a lot of friends facing problems with Apple's Warranty in Brazil.

Well, is it reliable to buy the gnex from amazon?
Will I get the pentaband version anyway? (Is there another? Or is it just a rumor?)
About the software version, should I be worried about that?
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I've only just got my GNex like two days ago so I don't know how high the failure rate is but I doubt that there's anything that can't be fixed through browsing XDA except hardware failures. I say, go with the Play Store. You should be fine. I think the Amazon one is pentaband too.

Well, I end up buying the SA version of the Nexus at Amazon. I'm very pleased.
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Samsung blocking imei's by what method?

If the rumor is true and Samsung is truly going to block imei's after September 30th of phones not replaced under the recall how would they go about doing this? I would assume by silent OTA. Would running twrp and custom ROM be able to stop this from happening? Before anyone assumes I'm not replacing device by choice this is not true. My eBay seller is unwilling to exchange my device and Samsung is unwilling to help since it was bought on eBay and device is international and I'm in the usa. So I'm in a bad spot and refuse to have a$900 paper weight. I'm looking into other options with eBay on somehow getting my money back but it looks to be a long shot.
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flyinj54 said:
If the rumor is true and Samsung is truly going to block imei's after September 30th of phones not replaced under the recall how would they go about doing this? I would assume by silent OTA. Would running twrp and custom ROM be able to stop this from happening? Before anyone assumes I'm not replacing device by choice this is not true. My eBay seller is unwilling to exchange my device and Samsung is unwilling to help since it was bought on eBay and device is international and I'm in the usa. So I'm in a bad spot and refuse to have a$900 paper weight. I'm looking into other options with eBay on somehow getting my money back but it looks to be a long shot.
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How did you pay? With PayPal? Cause in pretty sure they can get the refund done with their return policy for customers if you go through them.
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I don't think it involves an ota, the block list is sent to the carriers. I think it was intended for stolen phones.
Working with eBay is your best bet, from the sounds of it. Best of luck.
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IMEIs can be blocked through networks not by OTA or software, it's literally a block from using any mobile network by the network worldwide.

Yes I did use PayPal and a credit card that is setup through them. I am within the 30 day return window. I did read that the return is only valid through a defective product or item received not as described. I would consider the recall a defect but we willing have to see if they agree. What is the likelihood they would send all these imei's blocks to every carrier in the usa on an international phone? I would that would be highly unlikely. I would say the usa versions imei's I could see being blocked but an international devices imei? What do you think?
I reread a post that it would be worldwide block through all carriers. I can't hardly believe they can do this on a product you bought that they won't replace because Of where you bought it. This is becoming a real pita
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flyinj54 said:
If the rumor is true and Samsung is truly going to block imei's after September 30th of phones not replaced under the recall how would they go about doing this? I would assume by silent OTA. Would running twrp and custom ROM be able to stop this from happening? Before anyone assumes I'm not replacing device by choice this is not true. My eBay seller is unwilling to exchange my device and Samsung is unwilling to help since it was bought on eBay and device is international and I'm in the usa. So I'm in a bad spot and refuse to have a$900 paper weight. I'm looking into other options with eBay on somehow getting my money back but it looks to be a long shot.
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rumors are rumors.....unless samsung release a statement stating that they are going to ban the IMEI everything is smoke and daggers.........exchange can always be done at the sammy regional store/office where they device was first purchased (in this case...where ebay seller got the phones from initially)
while the F version is called the "international" version....each region has their own variation of the F model......
buying from ebay is like buying your neighbor's car......once purchase in good faith......your neighbour is not responsible for any maintenance thereafter.....

flyinj54 said:
Yes I did use PayPal and a credit card that is setup through them. I am within the 30 day return window. I did read that the return is only valid through a defective product or item received not as described. I would consider the recall a defect but we willing have to see if they agree. What is the likelihood they would send all these imei's blocks to every carrier in the usa on an international phone? I would that would be highly unlikely. I would say the usa versions imei's I could see being blocked but an international devices imei? What do you think?
I reread a post that it would be worldwide block through all carriers. I can't hardly believe they can do this on a product you bought that they won't replace because Of where you bought it. This is becoming a real pita
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IMEIs are blocked worldwide when they are blocked. It's a worldwide system for stopping device usage after phone theft.

Omg I don't want a $1200 CAD paperweight..

I think a lot of the ebay seller, ebay themselves, and PayPal issues and problems regarding refunds and exchanges. Is mainly due to the fact that the recalls were new and no one really had any idea of how to go about it and were just pushing blame.
If you wait a little bit for the smoke to Settle and there is a little more clarity on what is going on, in regards to the recalls and procedures.
Maybe some of these entities may reverse or take a different stand on their earlier decisions if you revisit them, after they get a better understanding of what is going on and how their earlier decision just left their consumers. Screwed. Especially ebay and PayPal who are suppose to protect the consumers with buyers protection.

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Omg I don't want a $1200 CAD paperweight..
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Are you in the same position as myself?
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flyinj54 said:
Are you in the same position as myself?
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My seller (never-msrp) is just giving me the run around. I keep messaging him/her/them but their telling me their still waiting on what Samsung is going to do and or tell them how to act when being asked about returns.
I don't want to return my device. My device works beautifully. But now this $hit Samsung might deactivate non exchanged possibly dangerous phones has got me worried and Ihave no idea what to do...

Just saw this article:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-remotely-deactivate-defective-galaxy-note-7-715862/

sakohunter said:
I think a lot of the ebay seller, ebay themselves, and PayPal issues and problems regarding refunds and exchanges. Is mainly due to the fact that the recalls were new and no one really had any idea of how to go about it and were just pushing blame.
If you wait a little bit for the smoke to Settle and there is a little more clarity on what is going on, in regards to the recalls and procedures.
Maybe some of these entities may reverse or take a different stand on their earlier decisions if you revisit them, after they get a better understanding of what is going on and how their earlier decision just left their consumers. Screwed. Especially ebay and PayPal who are suppose to protect the consumers with buyers protection.
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recalls work different way.....since the device it not defective......so i don't think its a matter of pushing blame.......
buyer protection is only useful when you haven't got the item or it isn't what is described.........the devices wasn't defective when you received it......it was in working order.......at this point....its mostly out of ebay's hands since it came as advertised......
paypal will probably look at it....and say.....the transaction was made in good faith between you and the seller......(because the product came as advertised...recall does not fall into "defective" categories).........
the ebay seller depending on who it is....may help you with the exchange.....each seller can have their own terms and condition though.......i checked a couple of listing....and most of them say that you have a 12 month manufacturing warranty.....(i think the key word is manufacture....which means its samsung).......so its more like if the seller is willing to help....but most likely you will have to deal with samsung yourself......

It will be a good move though... Considering many airlines are banning it on flight, hopefully this will encourage them to lift the ban...

NIKKOTUASON said:
My seller (never-msrp) is just giving me the run around. I keep messaging him/her/them but their telling me their still waiting on what Samsung is going to do and or tell them how to act when being asked about returns.
I don't want to return my device. My device works beautifully. But now this $hit Samsung might deactivate non exchanged possibly dangerous phones has got me worried and Ihave no idea what to do...
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i don't think they will go to that extreme.....and honestly....unless samsung release a statement about IMEI block...i will take it as a grain of salt.......remember......its only someone in reddit that is talking about it.......with no proof that except for what he wrote about the phone call.......but samsung france haven't release any statement to that fact.....
if you know where your phone was first purchased......then you can call the samsung number for that region and see what you can do......

NIKKOTUASON said:
My seller (never-msrp) is just giving me the run around. I keep messaging him/her/them but their telling me their still waiting on what Samsung is going to do and or tell them how to act when being asked about returns.
I don't want to return my device. My device works beautifully. But now this $hit Samsung might deactivate non exchanged possibly dangerous phones has got me worried and Ihave no idea what to do...
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Keep on contact with me and I'll do the same if we come with any resolutions please share
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flyinj54 said:
Keep on contact with me and I'll do the same if we come with any resolutions please share
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Yes will do for sure. Well it seems like never-msrp isn't going to be of any help here as they keep giving me the same answers to my many different questions, so it seems like I'll be contacting Samsung Vietnam tomorrow to see what I can do.
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Never-msrp keeps telling me that Vietnam models are not affected, I wonder if it's true?

NIKKOTUASON said:
Never-msrp keeps telling me that Vietnam models are not affected, I wonder if it's true?
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The Aussie supplied phones are made in Vietnam and are all being recalled.. Dunno if they are different to the Vietnamese market models though hardware wise.
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Samsung is not blocking affected phones:
http://m.androidcentral.com/samsung-refutes-note-7-remote-deactivation-reports
Who would have thought that a random reddit post was not true.
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tonymy01 said:
The Aussie supplied phones are made in Vietnam and are all being recalled.. Dunno if they are different to the Vietnamese market models though hardware wise.
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Vietnam is affected... china made are most probably not