Hey there, I have a question which seems to have been addressed at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256708 , but would like to confirm: can I create an app partition on my SD card without having anything other than a stock ROM on my Desire? They seem to have done it simply with a rooted device...mine is not rooted, would I have to root it? If so, would that be it?
Thanks in advance for any advice!
You need root to use sd-ext partition. Not really sure, but I think you can't use any way of a2sd (meaning apps 2 sd-ext, not the "official" a2sd, that moves apps to fat32 sd) with stock ROM.
You need to flash a custom ROM, and if you want something as "stock rom but with a2sd" install SuperNova, or any other ROM from droidzone.
You also have lots of different options, with a higher ustomization, very different from HTC Desire stock ROMs, with Sense 2.1, 3.0. 3.5, or AOSP (without Sense) etc.
I see...thanks a lot for the info, Supernova seems to be my best bet, I want a ROM that is essentially unchanged so that I won't have bugs, etc.
Blackhawk is right, to be able to use a2sd (to sd-ext) you require root and a folder called init.d in the system partition which is not present in stock roms.
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what if??
what if i were rooted, and created that folder in the system folder, would it then be possible to do this on stock 2.3.3??
i practically fell in love with not ever seeing that damn low phone memory notification, and now i switched back to a stock rom because of the 2.3.3 update for my lg
edit: so your saying there is no system partition in stock "ROMs"? only in custom roms? im quiet confused when it comes to factory ROMs because ive never really messed with them, i normally only used it a a fallback if i mess anything up beyond control
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i went to the previously mentioned thread and and basically re-asked the question, i am trying to get one solitary answer from both parties before i go messing with anything lol
once again thanks
ShawnnKushh said:
what if i were rooted, and created that folder in the system folder, would it then be possible to do this on stock 2.3.3??
i practically fell in love with not ever seeing that damn low phone memory notification, and now i switched back to a stock rom because of the 2.3.3 update for my lg
edit: so your saying there is no system partition in stock "ROMs"? only in custom roms? im quiet confused when it comes to factory ROMs because ive never really messed with them, i normally only used it a a fallback if i mess anything up
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No. Even if you created it in the system partition, you will also need to have a modified boot.img than enables the usage of the init.d folder which is provided by all roms that uses that folder. Or you can search if anyone has hacked the boot.img to support it.
The system partition is just a protected sector of the NAND memory that stores all of the system files. It is present even in stock roms.
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the guide worked great.
it's gone to 1.15, is it safe to do the OTA update it's asked me about? it won't remove root? or more importantly trash my desire?
** i did search on the root thread about apps2sd but it refers to using linux (which i dont have)
i did have a look at the nimbu root guide, which includes an addition to add apps2sd, but it's for an older boot loader .75 and i'm on .80
can i just follow that or do i have to flash a new rom on there?
basically, i'm happy with 2.1 really till the official comes out, just badly need a2sd.
thanks guys
tommo123 said:
the guide worked great.
it's gone to 1.15, is it safe to do the OTA update it's asked me about? it won't remove root? or more importantly trash my desire?
** i did search on the root thread about apps2sd but it refers to using linux (which i dont have)
i did have a look at the nimbu root guide, which includes an addition to add apps2sd, but it's for an older boot loader .75 and i'm on .80
can i just follow that or do i have to flash a new rom on there?
basically, i'm happy with 2.1 really till the official comes out, just badly need a2sd.
thanks guys
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hi im on bootloader .80 and used the files at the nimbu tutorial and it works fine, just drop the zip onto ur sd card and flash it from recovery, make sure u wipe ur device first tho
tommo123 said:
the guide worked great.
it's gone to 1.15, is it safe to do the OTA update it's asked me about? it won't remove root? or more importantly trash my desire?
** i did search on the root thread about apps2sd but it refers to using linux (which i dont have)
i did have a look at the nimbu root guide, which includes an addition to add apps2sd, but it's for an older boot loader .75 and i'm on .80
can i just follow that or do i have to flash a new rom on there?
basically, i'm happy with 2.1 really till the official comes out, just badly need a2sd.
thanks guys
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If you do the OTA update you will lose root, so therefore lose A2SD.
Why don't you just install a custom 2.1 rom with A2SD already in it?
Rolf can you post some roms with apps22sd with sense please i have bbeen looking but i cant find any apart from modacos
This is simplze.... its been rooted correct? Download ROM-Manager(on the Market), flash the Clockwork recovery(its the only option by default). after that is done. go to the option PARTITION SD, choose 512 for ext, and 0 for swap. It will put the FAT32 first and the ext second as required for the A2SD+. THEN Go and download Modaco mcr3.1 rom (it is based on a stock rom, with HTC Sense) You get all the goodness ROOted fone and extras from Pauls ROM including built in A2SD+
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This is simplze.... its been rooted correct? Download ROM-Manager(on the Market), flash the Clockwork recovery(its the only option by default). after that is done. go to the option PARTITION SD, choose 512 for ext, and 0 for swap. It will put the FAT32 first and the ext second as required for the A2SD+. THEN Go and download Modaco mcr3.1 rom (it is based on a stock rom, with HTC Sense) You get all the goodness ROOted fone and extras from Pauls ROM including built in A2SD+
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Hi, I've rooted my phone earlier, and have tried a bunch of different rom's - in all this going back and forth, my bootloader has been upgraded from 0,75 to 0,80
If i now put this Modaco rom on my phone,and then when there is a OTA from HTC can this be installed on the phone (i know the rooting dissapears) and my phone will be unrooted and like out of the box?
Regards from sunny Denmark
faddys123 said:
Rolf can you post some roms with apps22sd with sense please i have bbeen looking but i cant find any apart from modacos
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Try THIS ONE
j_simon208 said:
This is simplze.... its been rooted correct? Download ROM-Manager(on the Market), flash the Clockwork recovery(its the only option by default). after that is done. go to the option PARTITION SD, choose 512 for ext, and 0 for swap. It will put the FAT32 first and the ext second as required for the A2SD+. THEN Go and download Modaco mcr3.1 rom (it is based on a stock rom, with HTC Sense) You get all the goodness ROOted fone and extras from Pauls ROM including built in A2SD+
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thanks.
i presume to get apps2sd+ ii need to go through the online kitchen?
would rom manager let me flash this one?
e.g Pays-ROM Desire Sense v2.0 Dalvik+A2SD (RockSolid)+(BraveSoul OC)[06/06/10]
ok, i tried that rom in rom manager, and selected to clear cache/data. it reboots,but i get a drive image with a '?' above it. tried twice and no joy
am i missing something obvious here?
j_simon208 said:
This is simplze.... its been rooted correct? Download ROM-Manager(on the Market), flash the Clockwork recovery(its the only option by default). after that is done. go to the option PARTITION SD, choose 512 for ext, and 0 for swap. It will put the FAT32 first and the ext second as required for the A2SD+. THEN Go and download Modaco mcr3.1 rom (it is based on a stock rom, with HTC Sense) You get all the goodness ROOted fone and extras from Pauls ROM including built in A2SD+
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I did exactly this and I'm very very happy. The extras include A2SD+, WiFi Tethering, Wavesecure and much more.. best thing I've done in the past few days
Hopefully this weekend I will do something interesting that doesn't involve my phone.. oh except it will cos I'll need to use it to take pictures, phone people and find people and possible provide a portable WiFi hotspot if the need arises lol!
1/ Please could someone do me a guide, of how to setup my 8gb sd card.
2/ Whats apps i need from the Market store to run them
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3/ A link if possible for the application for my HTC desire.
Just a little confused, i have a rooted phone, and stock / Market fixed rom
installed running froyo 2.2 (which is excellent. )
I would be very greatful.
Many Thanks
Sean
1: backup all data on the SDCards as it will be wiped
2: if it is not already in the ROM - install ROM Manager: http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/tools/rom-manager_fjxs.html
3: use Rom Manager to partition the SDCard. (I use 'no swap' and 512MB EXT3)
4: put the data that you backed up in step 1 back on the SDCard
5: install a ROM that supports app2sd. All ROM cooks publish if whether their ROM supports apps2sc or apps2sd+
5: reinstall all your apps. They will now be installed on the SDCard until that runs out of space.
6: done.
I have rooted my htc desire with Goldcard, installed Involkd image for recovery
do i need to run any scripts or anything to get the apps2sd to work, i currently have Market fixed rom installed, as like to keep it as close to the org rom as possible,
So if the apps2ds is not installed with the rom were can i download this from, please you give me a link,? so i can flash this to the phone. also how do i use that rom manager, what is no (Swap)
Many Thanks for the help.
tapperace2010 said:
do i need to run any scripts or anything to get the apps2sd to work
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No. On booting the phone will link the memory on the SDCard to your internal memory, so the phone thinks it is loading all apps in internal memory, while it is actually stored on the SDCard.
tapperace2010 said:
i currently have Market fixed rom installed, as like to keep it as close to the org rom as possible,
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This ROM does not support App2sd. If you want to stay close to the original AND use apps2sd, use a ROM like NextSense: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742371
tapperace2010 said:
also how do i use that rom manager, what is no (Swap)
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On creating an extra partition on your SDCard, the Rom manager will ask what size the swap part needs to be (I used 0) and what size the EXT3 (I used 512).
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Many Thanks for the help.
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No problem.
This Rom seems to be very unstable, i want a rom close to the org as possible, but also to include apps2sd, or a download for app2sd how to guide please.
I love the one i got, as its hardly been messed with, bloatware drives me crazy, if its
not broke do not fix it.
Thanks
Tapper
Has all the problems with Sense rom been fixed.
Is their anyway i can update the rom i have, with the Apps2ds added to it, or do it has to be embedded into the rom.?
Also when you say ext 2 3 4, do i need to format my sd card 1st. and if so how to format in the phone or by a program from the market, ie : what you suggested before.
Thanks
Tapp
tapperace2010 said:
This Rom seems to be very unstable, i want a rom close to the org as possible, but also to include apps2sd, or a download for app2sd how to guide please.
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Just try them all. I used NextSense for a while (5.1) and for me it was very stable.
New ROMs come out every day, so just try a couple of them and see which work well for you.
At this moment I use WhiteXperience 2.0 which does not use sense, so I do not use Sense at this very moment. Btw.: WhiteXperience 2.0 is extremely fast with low batery use. For me this is more important than Sense.
With Rom Manager you can quickly create a full backup of your ROM with all the apps and data. So, create a full backup, install a new ROM, play with it for a few hours and either keep the new ROM or restore the old ROM.
This way you can quickly test a new ROM and see if it does what you need.
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I love the one i got, as its hardly been messed with, bloatware drives me crazy, if its
not broke do not fix it.
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That is the reason I use WhiteXperience, since it is based on CyanogenMod 6.
But again it is not based on Sense, which is what you want.
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Is their anyway i can update the rom i have, with the Apps2ds added to it, or do it has to be embedded into the rom.?
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I have not tried that. I have only tried ROMs that support Apps2sd.
But then again, just try it out: http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-appstosd2-qBx.aspx and let us know if this works for you.
However, since Froyo uses another way of storing apps in SD, you might end up with an unstable system.
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Also when you say ext 2 3 4, do i need to format my sd card 1st. and if so how to format in the phone or by a program from the market, ie : what you suggested before.
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After the partition has been created you end up with a formatted, empty SDCard. So no prior formatting is necessary.
tapperace2010 said:
This Rom seems to be very unstable, i want a rom close to the org as possible, but also to include apps2sd, or a download for app2sd how to guide please.
I love the one i got, as its hardly been messed with, bloatware drives me crazy, if its
not broke do not fix it.
Thanks
Tapper
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I've tried most of them if not all and NexTSense 5.3 is by far the most stable and best Rom on here. It's almost as stock as they come with Apps2sd installed. I think the only app changed is google maps to the slightly better brut version.
Define unstable? Most roms require a clean wipe before installing.
I agree with sbdags. NextSense is absolutely stable and, if you want Sense, this Rom would be the best choice to try out.
Hi there dose anyone know how to get this to work on the Wildfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087745
here is the files on that page
here`s the bootanimation it`s resized for the wildfire res copy the zip to system/media, if you want the sound look at [TUTORIAL]How to make your own boot animations
thanks but that didnt seam to work still got the stock boot animation
make a nandroid backup first then flash the zip from recovery,i thing you need to have s-off on the phone, and the path system/media is for AOSP roms, if you are using sense rom its a different path
do you know the path for the sense Rom as that's what i am using?
I'm using stock Rom only rooted as new to all this.
Chris
/system/customize/resource, here`s the cwm zip for sense roms
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make a nandroid backup first then flash the zip from recovery,i thing you need to have s-off on the phone, and the path system/media is for AOSP roms, if you are using sense rom its a different path
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Hi there. Let me clarify this a little.
I helped chrisjsy with S-OFFing his phone. He is now rooted. We had to downgrade his HBOOT using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132028 and havent installed a custom ROM since.
He made a nandroid backup (and a titanium backup as well) last night.
Im trying to help him as far as I can, but I can only offer him so much advice as I feel pretty n00b(ish) to android as well.
He is now running out of space on his phone for apps, and Im now wondering if we install link2sd (like I have on my Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Pro which is on stock firmware (android 2.1)), will that help with matters as I have some apps that under Froyo dont move to SD yet I can move them to SD with that?
Though having said all of that, is there a custom ROM that will speed his phone up with very few bugs?
links2sd is a very good app i used it to move only the apps to ext2 partition, but now i use custom mdt its the best way imo you can check it out here but this works only on aosp roms, if he wants a sense rom then go whit link2sd, best rom for me is cm7 go whit the latest nightly here you can find changelog and download the rom
Hi - this is an old topic but I've not been able to find an answer to this question...
My wife has a stock Desire GSM locked to T-Mobile UK with their stock 2.2 ROM. It's not rooted and there's no custom recovery. She's always running into the 15MB 'low storage' warning even with as much automated 'App2SD' as possible.
As a result *I* get a lot of earache about 'this bloody phone' and I'd like it to stop.
I don't want to flash a custom ROM, but if I root the phone with unrevoked, will I be able to take advantage of an 'sd-ext' partition on the MicroSD card so she can have a gig of apps rather than the ****ty 140MB on the internal storage?
What other apps / scripts / packages would be needed? The current ROM works fine - I would rather not replace it if possible since the settings / apps restore will be slow and painful.
Cheers,
Gavin.
Check Supernova rom. It's the stock Gingerbread update from HTC plus the space. I understand that you don't wanna flash a different rom but it's worth considering.
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Check Supernova rom. It's the stock Gingerbread update from HTC plus the space. I understand that you don't wanna flash a different rom but it's worth considering.
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Hm, interesting... so for that I'd just run unrevoked and assuming that installs ClockworkMod recovery OK, I'd copy the Flashable ZIP from http://supernova.droidzone.in/?page_id=24 to the SD card and flash that from recovery?
But yeh, keeping the existing ROM would be gold
Yeah in a nutshell. But first check what hboot version you have. You may need to run Revolutionary instead of Unrevoked. Also once you got that part done, instead of using clockworkmod recovery search for 4ext recovery touch its a lot better. Then with that recovery you can partition your sd card. Yeah its a lot of work.
Read the supernova thread or the website where you can download the rom. If I am not mistaken you can actually flash the rom without losing data. Just read the instructions carefully as its a little bit different from the usual process if I can remember correctly.
That's the closest rom where you can get the stock goods from htc. Check the everything desire thread on the dev section there might be some other roms there that is stock plus apps2sd.
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If you just don't want to change your rom, you can use Link2SD. It is found on the market, with it you can control which apps are moved and what is moved (app, dalvik, libs). It also has an "auto-move" feature, so your wife won't need to move everything manually. But of course you'll first have to create the ext4 partition.
Teppics stock rooted GB Rom is also worth a look, and you might also get away with not wiping data. Once rooted recommend download Titanium Backup from market and use it to backup user apps, then do a full nandroid backup before doing anything else. Any problems restoring nandroid will get you back to where you were. Also, 4Ext recovery is good but this requires S-OFF and is a separate process if you root via Unrevoked. Read up and read it again before starting, will stand you in good stead.
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Ahh "Link2SD" - that looks like a winner - I knew there would be a solution but no amount of Google-fu opened it for me... Link2SD - that's the magic incantation )
I'll give that a shot =)
As for the Unrevoked part - I can't do a full Nandroid backup until I get past that part.. so fingers crossed
Solved - SD-ext on stock 2.2 ROM?
Just wanted to follow up on this to say that I successfully ran Revolutionary against the T-Mobile locked phone (HBOOT 0.93.0001), applied the Superuser-3.0.3-efgh.zip as linked from the Revolutionary FAQ.
Finally I made a second FAT32 partition on the SD card since the phone doesn't seem to have ext2/3/4 support built in... and now we've been using Link2SD quite successfully =)
Thanks for the pointers + help, peeps
I was wondering if there was anyway I could dual boot my Nexus 7 and have both installs totally independent of each other?
I want to keep my device rooted, but I want to use Sky Go as well, and Sky Go doesn't play nice with root.
I would like to have one partition rooted with a custom rom, and another partition that is completely stock, stock ROM, kernel etc.
And I would also like to have the apps installed totally independent of each other so that my stock partition can't see any superuser stuff that I have installed in my custom partition.
I hope this makes sense? Is this possible?
Cheers
Stewart
Hypothetically you might be able to do like CM already does on the touchpad, they have virtual partitions to store all the android stuff since they dont want to remove/modify the underlying webos partitions.
At the very minimum you would need a rom that is modified to take advantage of running from a different location.
You would also need some way to select which one to boot at start.
Some dual boot solutions cheat by using recovery to boot the other rom, since there's no major differences beyond the fact it doesnt boot by default
You want MultiROM. The first ROM would have to be rooted, but the secondary can be completely stock and unrooted.
There is a module for the xposed framework which are able to hide root for selected apps.
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