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My device is HTC DESIRE HD ..
i Do Root for it now ..
if i need to use another Root.. What are steps i need to move current one and install new one ..
- Is necassary to mak along story again like what i do on first Root or just install it ?
thanks
I'm sorry, your post makes very little sense. Perhaps post in your native language and someone may be able to translate.
in short
my Device is HTC DESIRE HD i bought it form UK..
- i do Rom and Root for my device with new Sw..
if i wanna to change my Rom(SW) to other new one WHAT i can DO for that ?
thanks
no sense yet... when you say "new root" i believe you want to say "new rom". am i right?
wha did you make until now? perm roo with visionary?
I'll translate.
I have a Desire HD
My device is HTC DESIRE HD ..
I've perm-rooted it, also installed a custom ROM
i Do Root for it now ..
If I want to use a different ROM, how do I remove the Current ROM and install the NEW ROM.
if i need to use another Root.. What are steps i need to move current one and install new one ..
Do I need to redo all the things I did for my original Root, or just install the new ROM over the top?
- Is necassary to mak along story again like what i do on first Root or just install it ?
thanks
Hi Albalaji,
In answer to your question:
You have two options.
If you are installing a newer version of the same ROM (i.e. going from Android RevolutionHD 12.0.09 to Android RevolutionHD 12.0.13), I would think it fine to just place the new ROM zip file on your device, and using ClockworkMod Recovery, install-from-zip over the top of your current ROM. You can "format Data" in between to be safe.
Reason is, the new ROM will most likely alter the exact same files and keep things in a similar file structure.
However, if you're installing a completely different ROM, e.g. going from Android RevolutionHD to LeeDroid, I would recommend reverting back to Stock PD98IMG.zip. Safer this way, in case there is conflicts. You won't have to redo the Visionary, Radio S-Off or Eng S-Off processes though - once these are done, they are done for good.
Hope this helps!!
thanks alot ..
that What i meant..
Pls for Second paragraph.. if i have different Rom,Can u explain to me all steps if u don't mind
and again thanks ..
Rubixious said:
Hi Albalaji,
In answer to your question:
You have two options.
If you are installing a newer version of the same ROM (i.e. going from Android RevolutionHD 12.0.09 to Android RevolutionHD 12.0.13), I would think it fine to just place the new ROM zip file on your device, and using ClockworkMod Recovery, install-from-zip over the top of your current ROM. You can "format Data" in between to be safe.
Reason is, the new ROM will most likely alter the exact same files and keep things in a similar file structure.
However, if you're installing a completely different ROM, e.g. going from Android RevolutionHD to LeeDroid, I would recommend reverting back to Stock PD98IMG.zip. Safer this way, in case there is conflicts. You won't have to redo the Visionary, Radio S-Off or Eng S-Off processes though - once these are done, they are done for good.
Hope this helps!!
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Woah man, there is absolutely no advantage in returning to stock inbetween roms, its just a waste of time, all you need is to do a full wipe.....
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
albalaji said:
thanks alot ..
that What i meant..
Pls for Second paragraph.. if i have different Rom,Can u explain to me all steps if u don't mind
and again thanks ..
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Copy the new rom to the root of your sd card, put the card in your phone and boot into recovery, go to the mounts and storage menu and wipe every partition apart from.sd card, go back, go to install .zip from sd card, choose your new rom and flash it
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thanks thanks thanks .....
u r great man
AndroHero said:
go to the mounts and storage menu and wipe every partition apart from.sd card, go back
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you mean, including boot and sd-ext. I never wiped these partitions...
and by the way, i can see a point in flash the stock again, cause somehow is the only way to be sure that everything was formated, you get unroot, stock splash image etc...
Hi,
I rooted my DHD and flashed Revolution HD (2.1) ROM yesterday for the first time!! This site helped massively so thanks to all the devs and posters for the information!! I do have a couple of questions though, please excuse me if these are a bit obvious but until yesterday i had no idea how to even root it!
So i flashed the ROM and rooted fine, then i flashed a custom theme as well from clockwork mod recovery (installed from zip on sdcard). If i want to change the theme to a different custom one do i have to flash it from CWM recovery or can i do it directly from the CWM app??
Also if i now flash a different custom theme will all my user data (apps, settings, media etc.) be preserved?
Basically i like to change my theme quite often but if im going to loose my data everytime then ill have to pick more carefully!
Thanks in advance for your help and thanks again to all the devs and posters for making my DHD even better!!
dansharpy said:
Hi,
I rooted my DHD and flashed Revolution HD (2.1) ROM yesterday for the first time!! This site helped massively so thanks to all the devs and posters for the information!! I do have a couple of questions though, please excuse me if these are a bit obvious but until yesterday i had no idea how to even root it!
So i flashed the ROM and rooted fine, then i flashed a custom theme as well from clockwork mod recovery (installed from zip on sdcard). If i want to change the theme to a different custom one do i have to flash it from CWM recovery or can i do it directly from the CWM app??
Also if i now flash a different custom theme will all my user data (apps, settings, media etc.) be preserved?
Basically i like to change my theme quite often but if im going to loose my data everytime then ill have to pick more carefully!
Thanks in advance for your help and thanks again to all the devs and posters for making my DHD even better!!
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Welcome on board ARHD user
You flash theme from CWM. Changing themes means giving new look to your phone, so unfortunately you ll have to personalize everything once again. Flashing themes would not remove your data but only your personalized home screen. You can however try mybackup and see if that helps you restore your settings.
Thanks for the reply!! Just flashed a new theme (revolution) and loving it.
One more question though, im trying to flash a different boot screen and animated framework to the theme but its not working
Im putting the zip on my sd card and flashing via CWM as i did with the theme but its not applying for some reason, is there something im missing?? Both the bootscreen and framework are made for the theme by the way!
Thanks
dansharpy said:
Thanks for the reply!! Just flashed a new theme (revolution) and loving it.
One more question though, im trying to flash a different boot screen and animated framework to the theme but its not working
Im putting the zip on my sd card and flashing via CWM as i did with the theme but its not applying for some reason, is there something im missing?? Both the bootscreen and framework are made for the theme by the way!
Thanks
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have you replaced the bootanimation.zip file? i do not know if you need to flash the bootanimation. I have flashed splashscreen but not the bootanimation so i do not exactly know. But i m sure if you replace bootanimation.zip file in /system folder it would work.
Thanks again for the reply. For some reason i went back to recovery 2.5.1.3 to flash something else and just tried the boot animation just in case it made a difference and its all working fine now!!
Cheers
Im having the same problem, Im running DHD Revolution Gingerbread beta 3.1 and the boot animations never work. Even if I do replace the bootanimation.zip file. Changed permissions to the zip file too.
Seems there is a difference in opinion on which bootanimation file to replace. I replaced the one in system/customize/resource.
Any ideas?
Gingerbread works completely differently i think. There is script that also needs to be modified to change the boot animation, i dont know what or where im afraid!
I was on gingerbread for a few days (i think it was mike's second beta) and didnt like it much, so im back on froyo leedroid for now. Might change when there is a few more themes about, bugs are all sorted and custom kernels are available!!
Hello all,
I am running stock rom rooted, version .5.
Due to some FCs happening I want to reinstall the stock rom.
How should I do it?
I don't really remember..
My phone was unbranded when I bought it.
Just running the RUU of the latest stock rom will do the work?
Or do I have to unroot it firstly?
Also, I have created a partition (ext3 - 512MB) at my sd (8GB - Class 6)..and I would like to be able to install apps there...I think it's called A2SD..
How can I do that?
I am taking a backup with TB and will backup contacts and anything else I need.
Should I take a nandroid backup too?
Additionally, in order to decide which rom would be better for me, is there any way to try custom roms, such as running a virtual android device at my pc?
Thank you for your time!
To use the A2SD+, you need to be rooted.
So you can either run a RUU (unroots your phone - then root it again) or search the Android developement for stock rooted ROMs with A2SD+.
If you choose the 2nd one, just boot into recovery wipe everything and then flash the ROM and then restore everything with Titanium.
Here's a stock rooted one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997
Nandroid is always good, does not hurts when you have a backup
Thank you for your reply!
To start with, I haven't flashed through recovery any rom yet and haven't wiped data, and thus I am really inexperienced with these.
So I could download this ->"2.29.405.2/5 INIT.D ROM v3.0 | v3.1 - NEW!"? (The version .5) with init.d so that I can install the script of A2SD+ ("A2SD+ (1.4) - v3 compatible", right?
Do I have to flash a radio too?
I think I've read here somewhere that if the radio you're having is working properly then stick with it..If I wipe everything will I still have to install a radio?
So if I download this version what are the steps that I should follow?
1)Backup everything I need with TB and nandroid.
2)Copy the file into the root of sd.
3)Boot into recovery.
4)Wipe everything->wipe data/factory reset + wipe cache partition?
5)And then which option is to flash the rom? The "install zip from sdcard"?
After this procedure what else do I have to keep in mind?
What about this "Additionally, in order to decide which rom would be better for me, is there any way to try custom roms, such as running a virtual android device at my pc?" ?
Yes, that's the ROM, and you will be able to use A2SD+ with the init.d ROM.
Radio is not needed. Even if you wipe everything, it remains, because it is on a different partition. So wiping everything is safe, radio remains.
The steps are good, but before flashing ("install zip from SD Card") make sure you toggle verification off (it's in the same menu) - just in case.
Altough I strongly recommend to run through those custom ROMs, you'll not regret it (If you choose a stable one from a well known dev).
Yeah, the virtual android emulator. Wanted to write about it, but forgot it after searching for the ROM I Know it is possible, never tried it.
Here are some links, tough:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525930
http://android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/289928/testing-getting-an-emulator-up-and-running-a-full-rom-with-the-market-etc/
http://android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/289928/testing-getting-an-emulator-up-and-running-a-full-rom-with-the-market-etc/
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f4/test-rom-before-flash-31617/
I have flashed the one with the init.d..but into Settings > data I can only see as internal memory 120+MB...
TB though shows the free data on the sd extern..
How can I be sure what is correct? :S
Also I tried leedroid and cyanogen mod for a little..but leedroid was partially tranlsated to greek and cyanogen mod does not have sense which I seem to have got used to it..
Also, about the emulation..I was stuck at a part where I have to create a system.img file of the rom...:S
1. try to do the three wipes.. wipe factory settings, wipe cache, wipe dalvik and then reboot. perhaps you won't have fc's after that.
2. if you run a stock ruu again - you will lose root and s-on will return. this is the way to unroot essentially. check unlockr for details on that. you can use a universal ruu from htc to do that if you have to. but if you try 1. first, then you won't have to do this. i would suggest NOT unrooting just for a few fc's.
you will solve the problem by installing a different rom. now onto that issue about app2sd...
if you want app2sd.. i would suggest looking into data2sd. i'm on rcmix-hd or rcmix-s-w.1.1 and it's very nice. if you want to use data2sd you can also add this feature. pm me about that. one proviso, your sd-card must be a class-6 or higher to really enjoy data2sd ... i have a class-4 and the speed is not bad. but as the card becomes fragmented, i am sure the speed will suffer.
good luck enjoy your desire.
I have done the 2 wipes except the dalvik cache before installing the rom.
I haven't used a stock RUU.
I have downloaded the v3 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997 with init.d support.
I will stick with app2sd because I read that the sd wears off with all that writing :S
About the roms:
Yesterday I checked Leedroid but the thing that I didn't like was the partial localization..
I am using greek language.
Is there any way to solve that?
Also which other roms are more stable and worth the try?
Additionally, at the thread of the ROM I installed it says "Note that framework-res is already deodexed in this ROM".
This means that I can flash any notification bar icon I want and also the super cicle battery mod?
Thank you for your replies!
Anyone please? :S
pspuser007 said:
Additionally, at the thread of the ROM I installed it says "Note that framework-res is already deodexed in this ROM".
This means that I can flash any notification bar icon I want and also the super cicle battery mod?
Thank you for your replies!
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With a deodexed rom you can apply global themes, fonts and mods.
With an odexed rom this is not possible, unless the mod is appropriately altered.
Hey I just installed CoolDroid Revolution v 9.0 and when the installation finishes it just gets stuck on the HTC screen , I installed it again, and this time it gave me an error at the HTC screen, something about android stopped working.
I had a backup so its alright , but this seems to be the best rom for HTC desire , and i really want to get it working.
And If i use an older version of Android like GB , will it have some drawbacks like not being able to install the latest gapps and/or having limited widgets?
Thanks , :fingers-crossed:
BTW if you think there is a better or more stable ROM out there, that is the "best" in your opinion then please tell me
I tried to download and install Runny ROM and there was no download link , so i looked around and managed to find it ,
I installed it and it gave me a similar error, or similar errors, right out of the boot screen it gave me alot of errors, and i had to restore a backup.
I have tried CM10.1 CM7, Supernova, MIUI (camera dosent work, cant find a fix) ,Evervolve , jellynow , oxygen and alot of other ones.
They all worked fine, I liked MIUI but the camera problem threw that idea out of the window,
Runny ROM looks like a really good ROM , no other rom looks this good, but alas I need a fix...
That's still work in progress ROM. But it boots though.
Install a stable and fully functional GB ROM. Check out the Desire index there are lots of them.
Sent from my HTC Desire
dvsk69 said:
That's still work in progress ROM. But it boots though.
Install a stable and fully functional GB ROM. Check out the Desire index there are lots of them.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Thanks for the reply,
You see , I think that u can't install the latest widgets and apps on the old Gb and that's the problem,
And even so, there are too many , and I need advice on which one is the best...
Danish78 said:
Hey I just installed CoolDroid Revolution v 9.0 and when the installation finishes it just gets stuck on the HTC screen , I installed it again, and this time it gave me an error at the HTC screen, something about android stopped working.
I had a backup so its alright , but this seems to be the best rom for HTC desire , and i really want to get it working.
And If i use an older version of Android like GB , will it have some drawbacks like not being able to install the latest gapps and/or having limited widgets?
Thanks , :fingers-crossed:
BTW if you think there is a better or more stable ROM out there, that is the "best" in your opinion then please tell me
I tried to download and install Runny ROM and there was no download link , so i looked around and managed to find it ,
I installed it and it gave me a similar error, or similar errors, right out of the boot screen it gave me alot of errors, and i had to restore a backup.
I have tried CM10.1 CM7, Supernova, MIUI (camera dosent work, cant find a fix) ,Evervolve , jellynow , oxygen and alot of other ones.
They all worked fine, I liked MIUI but the camera problem threw that idea out of the window,
Runny ROM looks like a really good ROM , no other rom looks this good, but alas I need a fix...
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I installed it in this way:
1. Wipe everything except as card.
2. Flash superwipe twice (it will automatically reboot recovery).
3. Flash the Rom (Select custom in and then stock a2sd).
4. before any rebooting flash m2sd and select 1st and 3rd option when asked what would u like to move to sd-ext. Do not touch any other option.
5. Now reboot.
6.use root explorer and mount system to r/w and go to system/app or sd-ext/apps_s and delete and replace the HTC_IME.apk with the one in this link then set the same permissions as the other apps and reboot.
cm7r2 hboot is recommended.
farpadana said:
I installed it in this way:
1. Wipe everything except as card.
2. Flash superwipe twice (it will automatically reboot recovery).
3. Flash the Rom (Select custom in and then stock a2sd).
4. before any rebooting flash m2sd and select 1st and 3rd option when asked what would u like to move to sd-ext. Do not touch any other option.
5. Now reboot.
6.use root explorer and mount system to r/w and go to system/app or sd-ext/apps_s and delete and replace the HTC_IME.apk with the one in this link then set the same permissions as the other apps and reboot.
cm7r2 hboot is recommended.
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Thanks a bunch for the reply , i will try it ASAP , hope it works...
Thanks again..
farpadana said:
I installed it in this way:
1. Wipe everything except as card.
2. Flash superwipe twice (it will automatically reboot recovery).
3. Flash the Rom (Select custom in and then stock a2sd).
4. before any rebooting flash m2sd and select 1st and 3rd option when asked what would u like to move to sd-ext. Do not touch any other option.
5. Now reboot.
6.use root explorer and mount system to r/w and go to system/app or sd-ext/apps_s and delete and replace the HTC_IME.apk with the one in this link then set the same permissions as the other apps and reboot.
cm7r2 hboot is recommended.
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Hey man, thanks for all the help, but i dont understand ,
4. before any rebooting flash m2sd and select 1st and 3rd option when asked what would u like to move to sd-ext. Do not touch any other option.
5. Now reboot.
6.use root explorer and mount system to r/w and go to system/app or sd-ext/apps_s and delete and replace the HTC_IME.apk with the one in this link then set the same permissions as the other apps and reboot.
how do i flash m2sd?
and what is the root explorer?
and will this also work for runny rom, coz it gave me the same error,
if you can direct me to a post where i can learn how to do this , I will be greatfull ,i tried to look around , but i cant find a way to do it, or understand what it is , i just did the ext4 partition and im running the supernova rom, but i want to make runny rom work,
help a noob out ... please.... :crying:
Danish78 said:
Hey man, thanks for all the help, but i dont understand ,
4. before any rebooting flash m2sd and select 1st and 3rd option when asked what would u like to move to sd-ext. Do not touch any other option.
5. Now reboot.
6.use root explorer and mount system to r/w and go to system/app or sd-ext/apps_s and delete and replace the HTC_IME.apk with the one in this link then set the same permissions as the other apps and reboot.
how do i flash m2sd?
and what is the root explorer?
and will this also work for runny rom, coz it gave me the same error,
if you can direct me to a post where i can learn how to do this , I will be greatfull ,i tried to look around , but i cant find a way to do it, or understand what it is , i just did the ext4 partition and im running the supernova rom, but i want to make runny rom work,
help a noob out ... please.... :crying:
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Or please recommend me a rom that is similar to runny rom.
with the cube animations and the weather widgets... that looks awsome..
Danish78 said:
Hey man, thanks for all the help, but i dont understand ,
4. before any rebooting flash m2sd and select 1st and 3rd option when asked what would u like to move to sd-ext. Do not touch any other option.
5. Now reboot.
6.use root explorer and mount system to r/w and go to system/app or sd-ext/apps_s and delete and replace the HTC_IME.apk with the one in this link then set the same permissions as the other apps and reboot.
how do i flash m2sd?
and what is the root explorer?
and will this also work for runny rom, coz it gave me the same error,
if you can direct me to a post where i can learn how to do this , I will be greatfull ,i tried to look around , but i cant find a way to do it, or understand what it is , i just did the ext4 partition and im running the supernova rom, but i want to make runny rom work,
help a noob out ... please.... :crying:
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-m2sd is a script that you should copy it to your sd card prior to installing the rom, it a zip file and you can find it in first page of cooldroid revolution v9 treat.after you install the rom you may install m2sd and choose the options which i already mentioned.
-Root explorer is an application(from market) by which you can have access to root and system files and able to replace HTC_ime.apk file.( you may do this after installation is over and after the first booting.
at the end you need a fast SD card too.
I love this rom it could the the max of desire. but I installed CM10.1 VJ Jelly Bean 4.2.1 v4.5 it is smooth and run all the options that you want except Sense 4.
good luck.
farpadana said:
-m2sd is a script that you should copy it to your sd card prior to installing the rom, it a zip file and you can find it in first page of cooldroid revolution v9 treat.after you install the rom you may install m2sd and choose the options which i already mentioned.
-Root explorer is an application(from market) by which you can have access to root and system files and able to replace HTC_ime.apk file.( you may do this after installation is over and after the first booting.
at the end you need a fast SD card too.
I love this rom it could the the max of desire. but I installed CM10.1 VJ Jelly Bean 4.2.1 v4.5 it is smooth and run all the options that you want except Sense 4.
good luck.
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GOD BLESS YOU MAN,
thanks alot for all the help,
i will try now.
and by the way , the CM10 camera (video recording) doesn't work... how do you go around that?
use an external app?
and man, you just got me the best ROM ever...you ROCK!!!!
Danish78 said:
GOD BLESS YOU MAN,
thanks alot for all the help,
i will try now.
and by the way , the CM10 camera (video recording) doesn't work... how do you go around that?
use an external app?
and man, you just got me the best ROM ever...you ROCK!!!!
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you may use camera illusion from store but you wont get high quality. stick to the same rom until some body fix sense 4 for desire. or you can use theme sense 4+ sense 4 clock+ weather on this rom as I do.
farpadana said:
you may use camera illusion from store but you wont get high quality. stick to the same rom until some body fix sense 4 for desire. or you can use theme sense 4+ sense 4 clock+ weather on this rom as I do.
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I failed to explain , i meant the ROM you told me about , the CM10.1 VJ Jelly Bean 4.2.1 v4.6, it has some problems with video recording , seeing how you use it and like it i thought it might work somehow!!
Danish78 said:
I failed to explain , i meant the ROM you told me about , the CM10.1 VJ Jelly Bean 4.2.1 v4.6, it has some problems with video recording , seeing how you use it and like it i thought it might work somehow!!
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I ment to use another camera instead of stock camera on CM10.1 JB not on sense 4. other than camera this rom has no issue. you can design it like sense 4 too:
1- download and install theme sense 4.
2- download and install sense 4 clock and weather widget .
3- change transition animation to cube out.
it will be like sens 4.
Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
Thaenor said:
Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
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First flash cwm recovery with odin then you can back up your stock rom
thank you but...
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
EDIT 2: I noticed my memory in the android is full. It means that nandroid online DID backup, apparently sucessfully. All I need is to find it and test it.
Assuming it will restore my system to the way it is I can finally get to try some paranoid android mods.
Also, has an alternative. Do you think I could simply lookup and download the official stock rom and, in case something goes wrong, simply reinstall it?
Thaenor said:
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
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No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
lafactorial said:
No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
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The thing is... I barely know what Odin is. From what I saw on google I can't even run that on Mac (I have another pc with Windows just in case).
And I'm not even sure what links to follow if the Rom recovery (I just want to do a backup) or the clockwork mod...
Wouldn't it be easier if I just downloaded the official ROM and used that one has my backup?
u can use dd shell instead of odin just search how to use it , for stock rom thats flashable through cwm recovery then i guess ull find one thats XXLM8 based in the forum or u can build one urself using ur windows pc and dsixda's kitchen (but it will take u some time to install the kitchen and know how to use it), for nandroid backups 3 things are recommended : 1- free space on either internal or external sdcard 2- root access to make sure everything is ok (at least thats my opinion) 3- either CWM or TWRP recoveries
my advice is to backup the EFS folder which is much more important than the rom itself (ull find a thread on how to backup & restore it) and also ull find that ull depend on ICS & JB based roms in the future that ull rarely go back to stock
I tried to backup to SD card through the clockworkmod in recovery mode and it worked.
I tried to restore it and it restored my system... I think. To the same state.
Now I'm having a different problem. I have instaled cyanogen mod paranoid android, but unfortunately the phone get's stuck in the boot animation with the scrolling android eyes.
Can anyone please help me.
PS: I had to ultimately put the backup to the test. The custom Rom was not working at all! here is the link to the rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753065
Luckly the backup worked and restored my stock ROM putting everything back in place. *phew*
The question remains... where can I find a good ROM with paranoid android for my galaxy W?
Have you wiped /system & /data & /cache before installing the paranoid ??
for paranoid u can check newer paranoid roms cuz this one seems abit old, also check pacman roms cuz i guess they're usually built on paranoid
I (wrongly) assumed that an older rom would mean a more stable one. But here's to topics I would like to clear.
here's what I did all in clockwork mod:
.cleaned cache
.cleaned Dalvik cache
.fixed permitions
.installed the ROM
.installed GAPPS right afterwards
.reboot
1. Is there a COMPLETELY stable ROM for Galaxy W with ICS or Jelly Bean?
2. Where can I find updated ROMs of paranoid android or this packman you mentioned? I have a hard time finding thrustworthy ROM's and even more checking reviews and comments to make sure it works or what sort of problems people have with them.
Thank you once again, my Galaxy Wonder is doing fine. I'm back to the original ROM and I haven't lost anything (that I noticed). I have 2 backups on my SD card that are taking up 2GB of space but I'm too scared to move them to my PC, afraid that they won't work after I move them.
you shall wipe /data & /system (this will wipe all ur apps, contacts & sms but its an essential step as ur shifting from GB to ICS or JB)
this pacman (cm10.1 based) has hybrid properties and is the most updated so far : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218224
If you want stability. I recommend CM9 RC 9
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ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
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ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
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Ans to Q1:
The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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Ans to Q1:
The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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there's actually a 4th question.
4 - with a new rom, I will also be installing a new version of Gapps right? Does that mean that apps that couldn't be installed on my phone will now be available? Like the Chrome navigator or the new game Kingdom Rush.
ok lets start answering all questions in order
1. making a backup using CWM recovery (we name it nandroid backup) will backup ur a)system (it has the base files of the rom that will stay the same even if u make a factory reset, but surely thr content data will b deleted), b)cache, c)data (data means the apps and their data not the media that r stored on sdcard "a nandroid backup will not restore the images of a whats app conversation if the whats app folder is deleted from ur sdcard") d)kernel (named boot.img) & e)recovery (which is the same recovery itself u used to make the backup) ..... nandroid backup will not backup boot loader (which u dont have to worry about cuz u wont b able to solve it urself) and EFS folder (which u surely have to worry about cuz its easily backupable and restored if anythn happens to it)
2. cm9 is ICS 4.0.x .... cm10 is JB 4.1.x .... cm10.1 is JB 4.2.x .... stock rom for our wonder is GB 2.3.6 ............. All of them r different bases for android and to change between them its always preferable to make a full wipe not to have conflicts like boot loops or apps force close
2.1 each base has its kernel even if it has the same version number (i.e. same processing manner) cuz it shall be modified for each base to work on it properly
2.2 yes kernels r updatable for each base (u can c an example if u go to arco's cm threads and c the changelog)
3. go pristine is a term introduced by a great xda member here called pepoluan and it means full wipe of the phone to make sure u have a clean install of whatever u want (thrs a thread in general section for how to go pristine)
4. Gapps (aka Google apps) depend on which base u r , u can't install JB gapps for ICS , some of the apps that the gapps zip contains are updatable while some of them cant be updated (e.g. the newest google search cant b updated to ICS so ull have to stick with what the ICS gapps provided u) and finally u can c how the gapps are classified in this simple link http://goo.im/gapps
Any further question ??
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Ah , about the stability, so far here all the bases are quite stable but if ur looking for the most stable then try cm9 based roms
the more updates the base gets (cm9 has the most updates so far) the more stable it gets cuz they fix the bugs of the older versions and u can check that from the changelog of every rom, so never think about staying on an older rom if thrs a newer more stable version of it
Actually yes, I hope I'm not pushing my luck here, but every time I dig a little deeper into the Android OS I find new and complicated tutorials and questions. At first I just thought it was as simple as downloading Titanium backup and them installing new ROM's.
Then I find out that backing up the OS ins't as simple as that. THEN there are other "smalls things" that actually turn up rather complicated.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but from what I understand. Certain apps, like Kingdom Rush aren't available on my Wonder because the GAPPs version doesn't allow it. If I were to install a JB rom for example, then it would probably allow that game to be installed, because it would require a new version of GAPPs.
1. So assuming I don't mind about reinstalling the apps (but I have those backed up anyway), I also backed up my contacts, messages and call logs. Added to a nandroid backup should be enough to guarantee that I can go back to my first version, in case something goes wrong?
(that and the EFS which I will have to look into later)
1.1 - should I update my clockwork mod first? I'm not sure which version I have, but should I expect it to have a big impact on the process?
2. The android inner phone memory is split in two correct? One of the partition is called SD card and is usually in the path /mnt/SDcard or similar.
If I do this "going pristine" and clean up everything, will I have to remake the partitions?
2.1 I also have an external SD card. A full factory wipe (which I assume is the same as to say "go pristine") won't affect it correct? (either I'm removing it during the process (just in case))
I just hate in the phone lags and freezes. But I also suck at typing on a touchscreen so I really need Swiftkey, I even bought the app and it works nicely, but it is a little heavy and I notice the phone takes a few seconds to load it. I also need Dolphin browser because of the browser syncing feature (so I can see the tabs from chrome there).
Is the Pacman rom you recomended earlier fluid? Or should I expect it to be laggy with these slightly heavy apps?
thanks for the help so far
First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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1 & 1.1 - I feel more at ease now
2 I kinda figured that there were more partitions(by messing with cmw) but I found it odd that there were so many partitions. I guess that explains that.
I use a file explored and I'm a bit OCD'ish about where I keep my stuff, so all of media is mostly in SD card and probably backed up more times than I'd like.
If some apps may be incompatible and it's best not to restore the data from apps since it's a new ROM and may cause incompatibility I might as well just install them from scratch, at least that way I can rid of those apps I never really used but I didn't want to delete (you know, like Shazam, I rarely use it, but I want it around just in case)
My only last question seems to already be answered (which was how to repartition the phone memories). So you're saying that by doing the factory reset the partitions will not be affected (let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)?
So at this point all I need to do is go to recovery mode, select factory reset for each of the partitions, clearing them one by one, then clear cache, dalvik cache and then select "install rom from external SD card" and after that just hit "fix permissions", a reboot and I'd be good to go?
PS: I'm going to try Kii keyboard. But I feel kinda bad not using Swiftkey since I already payed for it and all... that's what you get for buying apps XD (fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version)
Maybe I should go back to the alphanumeric keyboards... bigger buttons pressed more times... not the best but... I miss my blackberry keyboard, I typed in that thing like a lightning.
(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
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(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
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I assume the desired partions would be all, in my case since I'm going pristine. I'm going to try this later this weekend. And walking in the street and tryping without looking (which even that I don't think I can do) would be a great asset, since when facing direct light you can barely see anything on the Wonder's screen. I wish the glass was anti reflexion.