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I'm actually a little embarrassed to even have to ask this question, I'm also pretty sure I know the answer but better safe than sorry. Can anyone confirm that the Tmobile version of the TP2 is able to access the ATT 3G network? I'm 99% sure it will but that weird Tmob band makes me nervous, any input would be appreciated.
No, it will not. However the ATT version shouldn't be too far behind the Tmo launch so don't worry too much
no offense but what is the basis for your statement, the Tmob version will have
850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100 bands which are basically the ATT bands plus 1700, why would the Wing II not work on the ATT network?
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no offense but what is the basis for your statement, the Tmob version will have
850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100 bands which are basically the ATT bands plus 1700, why would the Wing II not work on the ATT network?
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Please show me where you found this data? Tmobile USA 3g network doesn't use the 1900 band for 3g; they use the 1700 band which is why Tmobile has to have devices specifically made for their network and why the Tmobile USA version won't work on ATT USA.
Again to clarify:
Tmobile USA = 1700/2100 for upload/download for its 3G
ATT = 850/1900 for upload/download for its 3G
Now Tmobile USA does use the 1900mhz frequency but that its GSM frequency it is not related to the 3g frequency. Confusing i know, but you asked.
One of the images advertising it does state all those bands, but does not differentiate which are for gsm and which for 3G (which can be misleading and confusing, ergo the clarification by jim_0068 ^). Though if they share the 2100 I have no idea whether you can get limited functionality or if you HAVE to have both of them. *shrugs*
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Please show me where you found this data? Tmobile USA 3g network doesn't use the 1900 band for 3g; they use the 1700 band which is why Tmobile has to have devices specifically made for their network and why the Tmobile USA version won't work on ATT USA.
Again to clarify:
Tmobile USA = 1700/2100 for upload/download for its 3G
ATT = 1900/2100 for upload/download for its 3G
Now Tmobile USA does use the 1900mhz frequency but that its GSM frequency it is not related to the 3g frequency. Confusing i know, but you asked.
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actually this is not entirely true either,
AT&T is using 850 and 1900 Mhz for their 3G network,
it was revealed recently that they are pushing the 3G network to the higher frequency (850) and plan to have the 3G completely on 850 by 2010.
if AT&T is using 2100, we would've been able to use the european HTC devices which has the 2100 band.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537517
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4144863&postcount=1
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As far as I'm aware:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS:1700/2100
And therein lies the problem... While it supports all the bands that would be required, only a small subset actually apply to a 3G connection/signal...
Minimally, that would be the specs for it to work on T-Mobile, and quad-band GSM is just standard on 99% of phones these days...
baymon said:
actually this is not entirely true either,
AT&T is using 850 and 1900 Mhz for their 3G network,
it was revealed recently that they are pushing the 3G network to the higher frequency (850) and plan to have the 3G completely on 850 by 2010.
if AT&T is using 2100, we would've been able to use the european HTC devices which has the 2100 band.
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You're correct and i edited my post it is 850/1900 for ATT US 3G
I gaurantee you that the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 will not work on ATT's 3G Network At All... the frequencies for ATT will only support the 2G Network and therefore only phone calls and text messaging will work.
let's not go that far, let's not forget gprs (same speed as dial-up) and more importantly EDGE (for some that's more than enough).
when I go into the phone settings -- band I have these options on the Tmobile TP2:
GSM (900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM (1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
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when I go into the phone settings -- band I have these options on the Tmobile TP2:
GSM (900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM (1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
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hmm, now I think the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 works on ATT's 3G Network.
It should also work worldwide too.
oooh, European bands, "standard" North American bands (they're not really standardized, neither in the US nor Canada and Mexico is barely getting 3G into place), and no idea what the last one is for, sounds like cdma...
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oooh, European bands, "standard" North American bands (they're not really standardized, neither in the US nor Canada and Mexico is barely getting 3G into place), and no idea what the last one is for, sounds like cdma...
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hmmm why is there 800 MHz?
Obviously this is some bull**** because it supports all of the 3G frequencies of worldwide carriers and american carriers.
I wouldn't trust this guy, he has 4 posts and he's obviously posting rumors.
Sorry for the horrible pictures, using a g1 to take them. I love watching people jump to conclusions.
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Sorry for the horrible pictures, using a g1 to take them. I love watching people jump to conclusions.
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I think those numbers are for software only, in fact you probably don't have the hardware to support the frequencies of the wrong carrier.
seems that 800mhz is for Japan
and it doesn't allow for all of the North American bands (it's missing the 1700 one).
Could be just a software thing without hardware support, though that might be a tad odd, any way to check if it is?
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seems that 800mhz is for Japan
and it doesn't allow for all of the North American bands (it's missing the 1700 one).
Could be just a software thing without hardware support, though that might be a tad odd, any way to check if it is?
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My Xperia X1a shows UMTS (900) even when I check the settings... IN FACT only the X1i supports
It's very likely that the numbers you are seeing are actually all of the frequencies that are "summed up" and therefore the TP2 for T-mobile does not have the actual hardware.
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hmmm why is there 800 MHz?
Obviously this is some bull**** because it supports all of the 3G frequencies of worldwide carriers and american carriers.
I wouldn't trust this guy, he has 4 posts and he's obviously posting rumors.
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Those options have been around with the custom ROMs, I have that too on my Fuze, if your hardware doesn't support it then it'll just be an eye candy.
Bottom line is this, if you want to utilize AT&T's 3G, then you'll need to wait for AT&T's Fortress because you need the 850 and 1900 band (UMTS band II). If you want to use T-mobile's 3G you still need a TP2 that has the 1700 and 2100 band (UMTS band IV), and no you cannot use european TP2 to access US T-mobile's 3G band because european's (and asia's) 3G utilizes UMTS band I, they are on a slightly different frequencies even though they are categorized both on 2100Mhz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
Will I be ok travelling with this phone to Europe and Canada and getting 3G? Will the bands work? If not, is there something that can be done to make it work? I'm abot to get one and would like to confirm.
Thanks.
tinpanalley said:
Will I be ok travelling with this phone to Europe and Canada and getting 3G? Will the bands work? If not, is there something that can be done to make it work? I'm abot to get one and would like to confirm.
Thanks.
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the t-mobile rhodium supports UMTS 1700 and UMTS 2100 so if canada and/europe use those bands for UMTS (3G) then yes it will work. If not, the device is quad band GSM so no problem using voice and EDGE for data.
Also make sure the device is unlocked if you plan to put another carrier's SIMcard in the device.
tinpanalley said:
Will I be ok travelling with this phone to Europe and Canada and getting 3G? Will the bands work? If not, is there something that can be done to make it work? I'm abot to get one and would like to confirm.
Thanks.
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Not sure about Canada...but TmoUSA 3G bands are different than Euro-3G.
Unrelated, but worth mentioning: the T-Mobile USA international roaming charge for data is steep -- $15/megabyte.
If you got a Euro sim card that would fix the $, but not the radio (for 3G).
The T-Mobile version supports AWS and 2100 3G so works fine in Europe and most other locations. Had 3G T-Mobile and 3G Orange in the UK, but I would suggest a local SIM too. For the UK, both T-Mobile UK prepaid and Virgin UK prepaid work in a locked T-Mobile TP2 or get it unlocked for more choices.
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The T-Mobile version supports AWS and 2100 3G so works fine in Europe and most other locations. Had 3G T-Mobile and 3G Orange in the UK, but I would suggest a local SIM too. For the UK, both T-Mobile UK prepaid and Virgin UK prepaid work in a locked T-Mobile TP2 or get it unlocked for more choices.
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You used a T-Mobile USA version of the TP2 in Europe and had a usable 3G data connection?? Hmmm...that's the first I've read of this.
If this is well-known (and if so, maybe I'm just clueless ) can you provide a link to more discussion, that is...uhh...evidence...of it? Not about what bands the USA version supports -- I know that part -- but other reports/disucssion of it actually working.
On the other hand, are there any reports of a Euro-TP2 that can work on 3G bands in the USA?
USA TMO TP2 will work on TMO 3G in USA. It may also work on WIND Mobile for 3G data here in Canada, not sure about voice as they are using some strange network setup.
As the phone is UMTS 2100 capable, it will get 3G data and voice in most places in Europe and Asia.
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USA TMO TP2 will work on TMO 3G in USA. It may also work on WIND Mobile for 3G data here in Canada, not sure about voice as they are using some strange network setup.
As the phone is UMTS 2100 capable, it will get 3G data and voice in most places in Europe and Asia.
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Have you tried a TmoUSA TP2 in Europe or Asia -- yourself -- and accessed 3G data?
I'm still doubtful, but I actually hope I'm wrong 'cause I'd love to be able to get 3G data on my TmoUSA TP2 while traveling in Europe...as long as I get a Euro sim card. Otherwise, faster data just means more roaming-$$.
MCbrian said:
Have you tried a TmoUSA TP2 in Europe or Asia -- yourself -- and accessed 3G data?
I'm still doubtful, but I actually hope I'm wrong 'cause I'd love to be able to get 3G data on my TmoUSA TP2 while traveling in Europe...as long as I get a Euro sim card. Otherwise, faster data just means more roaming-$$.
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Check the specifications. It supports both 1700 and 2100 UMTS. That means it will work in Europe. ALL Touch Pro 2's have 2100MHz UMTS and quadband GSM, every single one of them, including the CDMA ones. The carrier specific ones add certain bands.
European Touch Pro 2s have UMTS 900
CDMA Touch Pro 2s have CDMA bands
T-Mobile USA has 1700MHz AWS band
AT&T has 850/1900MHz UMTS
TP2 overseas vs versions
I believe, as I've use phones often in the US and overseas, that T-mobile uses 1700 UMTS in the US, but that their TP2 is also 2100 UMTS. Just as At&t Tilt uses 850 & 1900 UMTS (At&t requires both frequencies), but also has 2100 UMTS. As such, both should work in most European, African and Asian countries (verizon and sprint you,re mostly screwed).
I believe the older Tytn II (tilt) was sold world wide as a 850/1900/2100 phone, so you could basically buy it anywhere and use it here on At&t only for 3g or T-mobile Edge only. Unfortunately, the TP2 is sold mostly as a 900/2100 UMTS worldwide outside the US, so you are stuck buying the US versions that correspond to the US networks. The bonus of the At&t tilit 2 version is that it is 850/1900/2100, so it will work almost anywhere. The drawback of the T-mobile TP2 is that 1700 is used by almost no one and while you can use it in most of the aforementioned places, you can't use it in the Americas outside the US & Canada.
Check out this handy wiki UMTS page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks
Just a note, I almost always pick up a pay as you go sim in other countries- much cheaper and very little hassle. Worth it for anything over a week stay. Maybe not as much so in some of Western Europe.
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I believe, as I've use phones often in the US and overseas, that T-mobile uses 1700 UMTS in the US, but that their TP2 is also 2100 UMTS. Just as At&t Tilt uses 850 & 1900 UMTS (At&t requires both frequencies), but also has 2100 UMTS. As such, both should work in most European, African and Asian countries (verizon and sprint you,re mostly screwed).
I believe the older Tytn II (tilt) was sold world wide as a 850/1900/2100 phone, so you could basically buy it anywhere and use it here on At&t only for 3g or T-mobile Edge only. Unfortunately, the TP2 is sold mostly as a 900/2100 UMTS worldwide outside the US, so you are stuck buying the US versions that correspond to the US networks. The bonus of the At&t tilit 2 version is that it is 850/1900/2100, so it will work almost anywhere. The drawback of the T-mobile TP2 is that 1700 is used by almost no one and while you can use it in most of the aforementioned places, you can't use it in the Americas outside the US & Canada.
Check out this handy wiki UMTS page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks
Just a note, I almost always pick up a pay as you go sim in other countries- much cheaper and very little hassle. Worth it for anything over a week stay. Maybe not as much so in some of Western Europe.
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That is correct. Apparently they are only able to have 3 3G frequencies (though NTT DoCoMo is currently working on a chip that can handle 8 frequencies!)
At first Europe only used 2100MHz 3G and AT&T had set up on 850MHz/1900MHz. Since those were the only 3 bands, HTC would put all three of those bands in its phones up to the Tilt (Kaiser). Once they made the Raphael though, there was 900MHz 3G in Europe and T-Mobile had chosen the AWS band.
Since they can apparently only put 3 bands in, and Europe now needed two for 900MHz/2100MHz, they could no longer put but of AT&T's frequencies in. So they must have just dropped them.
The AT&T version (FUZE) has 850MHz/1900MHz and also has 2100MHz, which is the dominant band for 3G in Europe. I am not sure if they are using 900MHz there yet, but they decided that was more important to put in the European ones than AT&T's bands.
T-Mobile's 3G phones get AWS and 2100MHz. I think AWS might use 2 of the bands because it is split on 1700MHz and 2100MHz (but a different 2100MHz apparently, maybe low 2100MHz vs high, I'm not sure)
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Check the specifications. It supports both 1700 and 2100 UMTS. That means it will work in Europe. ALL Touch Pro 2's have 2100MHz UMTS and quadband GSM, every single one of them, including the CDMA ones. The carrier specific ones add certain bands.
European Touch Pro 2s have UMTS 900
CDMA Touch Pro 2s have CDMA bands
T-Mobile USA has 1700MHz AWS band
AT&T has 850/1900MHz UMTS
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It doesn't just support 1700 and 2100, it uses both to work: 1700 for up/send and 2100 for down/receive. So, how does the Tmo USA radio cope without 1700 band for up/send when it's expecting it?
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T-Mobile's 3G phones get AWS and 2100MHz. I think AWS might use 2 of the bands because it is split on 1700MHz and 2100MHz (but a different 2100MHz apparently, maybe low 2100MHz vs high, I'm not sure)
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So, the full story (?) is that T-Mobile uses 1700+2100 (up/down) in the USA (which is what I already understood/knew) and in addition to that pair there's a separate slightly-different 2100 band that's used outside the USA? -- That, I didn't know.
If that's the explanation, that makes sense. But confusing that there's 2 different 2100 bands...
I may have to use some frequent-flyer miles and go check it out...
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So, the full story (?) is that T-Mobile uses 1700+2100 (up/down) in the USA (which is what I already understood/knew) and in addition to that pair there's a separate slightly-different 2100 band that's used outside the USA? -- That, I didn't know.
If that's the explanation, that makes sense. But confusing that there's 2 different 2100 bands...
I may have to use some frequent-flyer miles and go check it out...
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According to Wikipedia, UMTS Band I (commonly known as 2100MHz) uses 1920 - 1980 for uplink and 2110 - 2170 for downlink while UMTS Band IV (AWS, 1700MHz) uses 1710 - 1755 for uplink and 2110 - 2155 for downlink.
Band II (1900MHz) uses 1850 - 1910 for uplink and 1930 - 1990 for downlink and band V (850MHz) uses 824 - 849 for uplink and 869 - 894 for downlink. The uplink and download for these are close, unlike bands I and IV.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
I just assume they are only able to have 3 different frequencies since I have yet to see a UMTS phone with 4 frequencies. But as I wrote this, I'm not too sure because there were phones with Band I, Band II, and Band IV which would mean that there are chips capable for 4 different frequencies? Who knows, maybe someone with actual technical knowledge about this can say.
Also according to that page, there are five different UMTS bands deployed across the world. A bit of a pain. That is more then GSM ever had and who knows if it will grow to even more. LTE also will be coming in before GSM is phased out, so we are going to have to have phones that have GSM, UMTS, AND LTE. GSM will be no problem, quadband has been standard for a while, but having a phone that has both your carriers UMTS and LTE frequencies is going to be tough unless you buy it from your carrier.
What they should have done is just used the band names, and not their frequencies. It would be much easier to know that Europe runs on band I and T-Mobile USA runs on band IV and the T-Mobile Rhodium supports both Band I and Band IV.
[AUG 12, 2012] Like the Title says. But I will like to strictly test the 1900 HSPA+ band only (auto off).
[Sept. 25, 2012] EDIT/UPDATE: Guess i'll explain in the OP how to get there (screenshots in 3rd post). My original/earlier post was for SELECT specific band selection. I didn't get that, but this is the best I could find. And this is SPECIFICALLY for TmoUSA user since we're in the middle of a refarmed 1900 band upgrade process.
Use service code in dialer: *#*#INFO#*#*. Select "Phone Information". Scroll down to make sure WCDMA (HSPA+) preferred is enabled. Then hit the menu button to reveal a few options. Hit "select radio band", and select "USA Band" which will use the 1900 band.
Now, it will take ~15+ seconds to switch. If it takes to long, turn off/on the radio below WCDMA (give the radio about 10 seconds per tap). If it shows EDGE, you don't have 1900 HSPA+ for your area/nearest tower, yet. If you do, then :good: :highfive: ! But TmoUSA JUST started rolling out 1900 HPSA+. So far, Las Vegas is the first city, with my city, Seattle, L.A., NYC, DC very near completed. You can try this site/map out to see where there has been reported TmoUSA 1900 HSPA+ sightings --> http://airportal.de
UPDATE:
If anyone here cares, I found out how to test the 1900MHz band on the GNex. I wanted to find out because Tmo is refarming their 1900MHz network. Plus Tmo just announced Las Vegas is the first to launch the full HSPA+ refarm with my city, Seattle, L.A., NY, DC, and other close to full launch. Tmo is downsizing their GSM to 10MHz or less (from atleast 20MHz), and bolting on their HSPA+ network on to it using atleast 20MHz on average on the 1900MHz band (some sites will only be 10MHz HSPA+ starting off).
I can't remember, but Tmo will also downsize HSPA+ on their current 1700 (AWS) band (from 20MHz to 10MHz) to make room for LTE over 1700MHz, or only use 5x5 LTE instead of 10x10 LTE. If that market has enough spectrum, then I'm sure Tmo won't downsize their HSPA+. But it varies from market to market (Tmo can have either high or mid spectrum), so let me wrap up how it will look with a good amount of Spectrum in a market:
1900 (PCS) band = 10MHz GSM / 20MHz HSPA+ = 30MHz
1700 (AWS) band = 10-20MHz HSPA+ / 10-2MHz LTE = 20-40MHz
So to wrap this up, I just wanted to use my GNex's 1900 HSPA+ band exclusively to see when my area (my local towers) in Seattle lights up, and I found out how (not pretty/not SPECIFIC bands).
Screenshots below... The "USA Band" doesn't use the 1700 band (Tmo) it seems. When I select it, I only get EDGE (1900) on Tmo, but I get a better signal (dB/asu) at work compared to using HSPA+ (1700).
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What did you say? I missed it.
Just explain how please
You state you found out, yet did not state how.
Well did the "Auto Band" and the "USA Band"
The USA Band is good with signal strength, speed wise is slow ass ****.
The Auto band is still not bad with signal strength but not how USA band is.. Speed is there tho.
#Galaxy Nexus HSPA+
crixley said:
Just explain how please
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tibere86 said:
You state you found out, yet did not state how.
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Use service code in dialer: *#*#INFO#*#*. Select "Phone Information". Scroll down to make sure WCDMA (HSPA+) preferred is enabled. Then hit the menu button to reveal a few options. Hit "select radio band", and select "USA Band" which will use the 1900 band.
Now, it will take ~15+ seconds to switch. If it takes to long, turn off/on the radio below WCDMA (give the radio about 10 seconds per tap). If it shows EDGE, you don't have 1900 HSPA+ for your area/nearest tower, yet. If you do, then :good: :highfive: ! But TmoUSA JUST started rolling out 1900 HPSA+. So far, Las Vegas is the first city, with my city, Seattle, L.A., NYC, DC very near completed. You can try this site/map out to see where there has been reported TmoUSA 1900 HSPA+ sightings --> http://airportal.de
luckylui said:
Well did the "Auto Band" and the "USA Band"
The USA Band is good with signal strength, speed wise is slow ass sh*t.
The Auto band is still not bad with signal strength but not how USA band is.. Speed is there tho.
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Did you even read my 2nd post? That's what were testing. If you have EDGE/slow speeds on the "USA Band", then Tmo hasn't refarmed your area/tower(s) yet. If you do get HSPA+ on the "USA Band", then that's great! Better HSPA+ signals in building for your area. I wish the GNex had DC-HSPA+ tho
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You need an app. Theirs no native app or setting (maybe a service code?). I use Battery Monitor, but theirs a simple app to get into the Hidden Menu/Testing Menu. Use Test Menu (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=appinventor.ai_Gareth_Hannaway_420.Test_Mode&hl=en) Then go to "Phone Information". Scroll down to make sure WCDMA (HSPA+) preferred is enabled. Then hit the menu button to reveal a few options. Hit "radio band", and select "USA Band" which will use the 1900 band.
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You can do that by typing *#*#INFO#*#* on your dialer.
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You can do that by typing *#*#INFO#*#* on your dialer.
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Thx, that's the one.
I'll give a thanks for trying but you really didn't tell us something we don't already know.
Your op made it seem like you were able to go in and physically select radio bands (like from a list 850, 1700, 1900, etc). Not just select from us bands, aus band, etc. I guess when you posted that it "isn't pretty" we were expecting something different than what we already know.
It is already fairly common knowledge on how to access the service menu, so you don't need that app either.
Like I said, I'll give a thanks for trying, and you likely did help someone, so that's fine. But this topic has been discussed at length in the past.
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i do not see the option to choose band on my nexus, does it have to be custom rom?
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I'll give a thanks for trying but you really didn't tell us something we don't already know.
Your op made it seem like you were able to go in and physically select radio bands (like from a list 850, 1700, 1900, etc). Not just select from us bands, aus band, etc. I guess when you posted that it "isn't pretty" we were expecting something different than what we already know.
It is already fairly common knowledge on how to access the service menu, so you don't need that app either.
Like I said, I'll give a thanks for trying, and you likely did help someone, so that's fine. But this topic has been discussed at length in the past.
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Yea I know, its not what I wanted either (I wanted EXACT radio bands selections), but I found something useful for us TmoUSA users, which are in the process for refarmed 1900 by years end and beyond + LTE in 2013. I believe only Samsung's TW roms has that embedded to select specific bands. And do you have that specific thread you're talking about? I didn't see it in the search results.
PUTALE said:
i do not see the option to choose band on my nexus, does it have to be custom rom?
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You cannot choose the individual band. You can only choose US, AUS, etc. by pressing the menu button.
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You cannot choose the individual band. You can only choose US, AUS, etc. by pressing the menu button.
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How do you get back to the original radio band, is it Automatic?
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How do you get back to the original radio band, is it Automatic?
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Yes. It might take more than 15 seconds to switch. If not, turn off/on the radio.
i just did this and show edge but now cannot get back to hspa.
nvm, i restart and it works now.
I use codename android and every time I use this code it gives me an error and says settings has crashed is there any other way to test this or how to get the code to work.
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I use codename android and every time I use this code it gives me an error and says settings has crashed is there any other way to test this or how to get the code to work.
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The "info" code? And link the rom for me.
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Sorry if this is old news, I searched the forums and couldn't find a thread where this was explained.
Until recently, it wasn't possible to use HSPA+ with the Glide on T-Mobile, because T-Mo used to use different frequencies (1700/2100) than AT&T (850/1900) for it's HSPA+ service.
However, T-Mobile is migrating its HSPA+ network over to the 1900mhz band. So apparently that means that IF you are in an area where T-Mobile has already made the switch (and your phone is not carrier locked to AT&T), then you can use HSPA+ on T-Mobile.
One thing to note is- since the phone is only operating at 1900mhz and not 850mhz, the speed is cut in half (at least that is how I understand it).
So instead of getting 42Mbps you'll only be able to get 21Mbps (max). Still, it's way better than 2g. Source
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Sorry, am I missing something? The Captivate Glide specs show it as having UMTS 850/1900/2100, so shouldn't it work both with 1900 and 2100?
rad30n said:
Sorry, am I missing something? The Captivate Glide specs show it as having UMTS 850/1900/2100, so shouldn't it work both with 1900 and 2100?
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The way I understand it, the older T-Mo towers use both 1700mhz and 2100mhz for their HSPA+, using 1710-1755mhz for uploads and 2110-2155 for downloads. The radio's in the Glide are missing the 1700mhz band so it won't work in the areas where they haven't rolled out the switch to 1900 yet.
I am only going by what I have read on the net, so this may not be completely accurate.
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The way I understand it, the older T-Mo towers use both 1700mhz and 2100mhz for their HSPA+, using 1710-1755mhz for uploads and 2110-2155 for downloads. The radio's in the Glide are missing the 1700mhz band so it won't work in the areas where they haven't rolled out the switch to 1900 yet.
I am only going by what I have read on the net, so this may not be completely accurate.
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Got it, thanks!
Is there a way to check that the LTE radio on the ATT SGS3 will work with the 2100mhz band LTE in Thailand? I tried an updated SIM at the True Mobile shop this morning and my phone would not register on the LTE network. When selecting "Bearer" in APN settings, picking LTE would disconnect my mobile date - setting it back to 'Unspecified' allowed me back onto HSPA+ but not LTE.
- Is it possible for a carrier to restrict the types of phones that can access their LTE network, or is it as simple as having the correct radio?
- Are there different channels on the 2100mhz LTE spectrum, and is it possible ATT uses a different channel than True is using?
- How can I diagnose my radio connection to determine what could be preventing my access to LTE on the True network?
- What is the difference between LTE 700mhz Class 17 / 2100 and 2100mhz LTE?
ROM - SlimBean 7.2 weekly, stock kernel
MODEM - LK3
True Move Press Release - http://truemoveh.truecorp.co.th/news_events/news/entry/1392?ln=en
True LTE - 2100 mhz band 1
i747 LTE - 700 mhz band 17, 1700/2100 (AWS) MHz
- Is there a way to see if I am connected to their 850mhz 3G or 2100mhz 3G?
Please let me know what further information I can provide to facilitate a solution. Cheers and thank you in advance.
[EDIT] Upon closer inspection, these are loafers... er, rather I educated myself about LTE bands and AWS... a tad confusing, but going off of the Samsung website spects, the SGH-i747 is dual band LTE 4/17... which is incompatible with True's LTE band 1.
This may be the push that puts a SIV in my hands...