Can someone please point me to some info that explains why widgets break when the associated app is moved to the SD card? My company is about to release an Android app and some people in beta are complaining that we do not allow them to move it to the SD card.
I realize there are ways around this (link2sd, etc), but I don't think this is the answer I'm looking for in this situation. I have tried searching both XDA and Google and can't seem to find an explanation of what is exactly is going on that causes widgets to break.
Thanks for any help.
It's just the way it works. The short answer is that Android won't even show a widget in the list if the app has been moved to the SD.
There are a few reasons for that. For one, the home screen shows up on boot before applications that are on the SD have fully initialized. Some will be there, but some continue to load as the home screen comes up, I guess to make the phone feel like it's booting faster. Each app on the SD card is in an encrypted container that needs to be decrypted and mounted. Another factor is that the app disappears if the SD card is unmounted (either physically or by mounting it as USB storage).
Basically they would have needed to write a hook into the home screen app to handle re-initializing widgets as they become available again. They either just didn't do that, or they might have decided widgets are something that should always show up and not be subject to the state of the SD card.
It's not an ideal situation. On the one hand, there are some apps that have widgets that some users may not plan to use. In that case, I'd want the ability to move it as a user. You can certainly allow them to do that, but then the widget just disappears from the option list when they move it. It doesn't provide any warning saying "only do this if you don't plan to use the widget." So it's a catch-22 for developers. If they disable moving to SD, users who don't want to use the widget will be irritated. If the enable it, users who don't understand the ramifications will be confused and irritated. There's no ideal solution at this point.
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I have followed the steps found elsewhere on this site to allow almost any app to run from SD. I have seen cautionary notes about unmounting the SD card and the potential nasty effects it can have. (Including how touchdown even cautions against moving the DB to the SD card).
Under what conditions could I unmount my SD car. I know that connecting to my PC and choosing to connect as disk drive. What about using HTC sync?
If I do unmount the SD card is there any precautions that I can take to avoid corrupting theses apps or DB (Force close before connecting)
Next in a much more general question. Is it possible that whith a future release of Android OS that all apps, widgets and data can be run from SD card regardless of whether root access is required or not. Or is more of a core functionality that will always prevent some apps from running from the SD.
Appreciate any and all replies.
Come on guys a little help here
Please I have seen that this group is filled with Brainiacs that could answer this question in their sleep.
I know that it is a noob question but I did research it first before posting it.
Anything from anyone would be helpful
I use Froyo A2SD, and have never had a problem. I certainly don't do anything special.
On your second question, it won't be a problem in the future because the hardware is better specified. If you look at the Desire Z and HD they have way more app space in the first place, rendering any form of A2SD obsolete.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks Dave!
Dave,
First off thanks for the reply.
1. Do you ever use HTC sync yourself? Also it should be noted that I ran the modification to force apps to run from the SD not just the ones that are market approved ones. Again the worrying note from Touchdown about corrupting the DB
2. Actually want I meant was will the phone we have (Desire) manage run from SD better with any future software updates. It is disappointing to have an 8Gb card and not be able to load up with tons of apps.
As much as I would like to update my phone that is not an option for me as I have had the phone less than 2 months.
I have a few questions that have been accumulating that I would like to get the answers to. If you know the answer to any of the below please chime in.
1. There are a few grayed-out icons that are in my app menus from applications that I have uninstalled and some that are duplicates of applications that I still have installed. Any way to clear these out? I'm assuming these are a result from using the move2sd application at some point.
2. I have Vlingo start automatically when I connect a bluetooth headset. It finds it necessary to remind me how many missed calls I have since I last flashed the phone... I'm up to almost a 100 now. Any way to stop it from doing this?
3. I currently use a suction cup phone holder in my car. Is there any way to have it emulate the official Samsung car dock by going into car mode when I plug the power cable in or is this specific to the Samsung dock? Are there any alternatives to the Samsung car dock with this capability?
4. Whenever I mount the phone as a USB device it reboots itself after I unmount and disconnect the USB cable. Is this normal?
5. My phone is rooted but I have to have a password on it since I use it for work. Is there any way to NOT have it lock immediately after I use the power button to turn the screen off? In other words, I just want it to lock based on the Screen unlock settings timeout value. I know there are some widgets that will do this but I'd rather press the power button instead of scrolling to the screen with a widget.
Thanks for the help!
Argh... no one knows the answer to ANY of these???
Wayno-san said:
1. There are a few grayed-out icons that are in my app menus from applications that I have uninstalled and some that are duplicates of applications that I still have installed. Any way to clear these out? I'm assuming these are a result from using the move2sd application at some point.
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If they're still in the list they're probably stock apps that are designed not to be uninstalled. You can remove updates for them but the original app stays. In this case, Titanium Backup is a generally recommended solution to really uninstall those. Just please check what you're doing before you uninstall it.
I snipped #2 and #3 and #5 below as I don't have an answer for those.
Wayno-san said:
4. Whenever I mount the phone as a USB device it reboots itself after I unmount and disconnect the USB cable. Is this normal?
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Not in my experience. Please make sure you have the current version for the drivers on your PC. If not running a stock ROM you may want to try that (ex. EL29 Rooted or not) and see how it behaves.
garwynn said:
If they're still in the list they're probably stock apps that are designed not to be uninstalled. You can remove updates for them but the original app stays. In this case, Titanium Backup is a generally recommended solution to really uninstall those. Just please check what you're doing before you uninstall it.
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Nope, not stock apps. For instance I have two icons for Amazon... one color and one greyed out. Another for "Drawing Pad"... a program that I uninstalled, another dual icon for Google goggles, and another grayed out icon for PNF Lite, a game that I uninstalled.
garwynn said:
Not in my experience. Please make sure you have the current version for the drivers on your PC. If not running a stock ROM you may want to try that (ex. EL29 Rooted or not) and see how it behaves.
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OK, thanks for the feedback.. I didn't think that this was normal. I think I'll wait until ICS and then reload everything from scratch, including the SD card. I hoping that this rebooting is not damaging to the file/file structure. I only transfer files about once weekly to sync up passwords. The rest of the stuff I just move through dropbox and such.
Wayno-san said:
Nope, not stock apps. For instance I have two icons for Amazon... one color and one greyed out. Another for "Drawing Pad"... a program that I uninstalled, another dual icon for Google goggles, and another grayed out icon for PNF Lite, a game that I uninstalled.
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Hmm... possible that you had these installed and moved to SDCard and they're no longer there? That may explain that as well.
And just so I'm making sure that we're talking the same thing, you're talking about inside Settings->Applications->Manage Applications->All, correct?
I was actually referring to the "Applications" button off of the main screen, which shows all the applications... but you gave me an idea... I checked manage apps and removed (uninstalled) all the single instance grayed applications. The ones where both the color and gray icons are present are still there.
Is there a "cache" for the manage applications that I could try clearing?
Otherwise I'll try to uninstall and reinstall completely but I think I may have tried that route already.
Thanks for the help!
Couldn't you open the app drawer and push menu. Go to edit then long click on the icon and click the x to remove? Also in my experience when I remove an app a reboot should fix the apps still showing as greyed out. But you could also reboot recovery and wipe dalvik and cache it should remove those upon reboot
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Wayno-san said:
2. I have Vlingo start automatically when I connect a bluetooth headset. It finds it necessary to remind me how many missed calls I have since I last flashed the phone... I'm up to almost a 100 now. Any way to stop it from doing this?
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Quite annoying, isn't it? I agree.
The only "solution" to this I've found is to delete all the missed calls.
Wayno-san said:
I have a few questions that have been accumulating that I would like to get the answers to. If you know the answer to any of the below please chime in.
3. I currently use a suction cup phone holder in my car. Is there any way to have it emulate the official Samsung car dock by going into car mode when I plug the power cable in or is this specific to the Samsung dock? Are there any alternatives to the Samsung car dock with this capability?
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There is a an app in Google Play (Android Market) called Car Mode Control.
It will put you into car mode without the dock.
Wayno-san said:
4. Whenever I mount the phone as a USB device it reboots itself after I unmount and disconnect the USB cable. Is this normal?
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That is not normal.
When you disconnect the phone, do you click "disconnect storage from PC?"
patrao_n said:
Couldn't you open the app drawer and push menu. Go to edit then long click on the icon and click the x to remove? Also in my experience when I remove an app a reboot should fix the apps still showing as greyed out. But you could also reboot recovery and wipe dalvik and cache it should remove those upon reboot
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Tried both of those but no dice (see pic)... oh well, I'll just live with it until ICS... hopefully it will not be much longer.
Kn0wBuddy said:
Quite annoying, isn't it? I agree.
The only "solution" to this I've found is to delete all the missed calls.
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OK, thanks. Not sure why they decided to force us to do that but I guess we'll have to live with it for now. Wonder if the Samsung ICS will suffer from this.
qfadder said:
There is a an app in Google Play (Android Market) called Car Mode Control.
It will put you into car mode without the dock.
That is not normal.
When you disconnect the phone, do you click "disconnect storage from PC?"
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Thanks, I just D/Led the app. Yes, I always use the safe eject option on the PC. Maybe it's some crucial app that shouldn't be on the SD card that is doing this? I'm actually getting a little more concerned about this because I've come back to a the phone a few times with an "SD card was unexpectedly removed" message waiting and ALL the apps on the SD card greyed out.
+1 thanks to all of you!
I experience number 1 quite often too and yes it has to do with moving apps to sd. I think this phone has issues reading sd cards. Only way I can remember fixing this is by playing around and switching the apps back and forth between phone and sd or sometimes tapping on both icons for the app on the app drawer will magically make the grayed out one disappear lol.. I'm using my sd card from my og epic which is a class 2. Maybe this phone needs a better quality sd card.. All I know is if I move all my movable apps to sd card my phone will go into a bootloop frenzy until I remove the sd card and let it boot without it. Then I would put the card back on and hope it won't reboot while scanning media (which it did sometimes) till eventually I would get lucky n get a full scan without rebooting. Now I only move a few apps n not all lol
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Hmm, I'll have to try the double-icon tap trick. I have not experienced the boot issue. The last two cards that I've used have been class 10 cards, the current one being a Samsung. I would hope that their phone would work well with their cards. I did have issues with the first version of the Patriot 32GB Class 10 card that I previously used in the phone, but a replacement card with updated firmware seemed to have alleviated most of the issues. Nevertheless I switched to a Samsung card since I have a lot of mission critical info on my phone.
On another note I just ran out of space on the "internal SD" storage and since I'm not sure if there is a way to force apps to move to the "external SD" card, I guess I won't be moving apps to SD any longer.
Actually the apps go directly into the sd. They never go into the internal memory. I know that sounds weird being that when moving apps it shows you the available internal memory but as you move them you will see it won't decrease. That's because its actually going to the sd card. I confirmed this by checking my sd space from the storage section and it did decrease. And my sd card is a Samsung its from the first Epic
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Suggested Fixes
1. - This sounds as if you have a corrupt SD Card. I suggest reformatting it. If this doesn't work, switch roms and do a clean install of said rom...
2. - Manually clear the calls
3. - I think this was already answered
4. - Try answer 1 above
5. - Samsung made the pw protected lockscreen this way. You can try the widget if you like.
BTW, if my answers for 1 and 4 don't work, go back to stock UNROOTED and see if the issues persist. If they do, go back to sprint. Your phone is not acting the way it should...
RayTrue04 said:
Actually the apps go directly into the sd. They never go into the internal memory. I know that sounds weird being that when moving apps it shows you the available internal memory but as you move them you will see it won't decrease. That's because its actually going to the sd card. I confirmed this by checking my sd space from the storage section and it did decrease. And my sd card is a Samsung its from the first Epic
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I'm unclear about how the install location is actually determined... I know that if the SD card is unmounted then a lot of the normally available programs go gray so I know those are installed on the external SD card.... however, the "internal SD", or "USB storage" on my phone is almost completely full so not everything is getting installed on the external (plugged in) SD card. All the gameloft games installed in the USB storage area along with IVONA voices and a few other programs.
VeNuM said:
1. - This sounds as if you have a corrupt SD Card. I suggest reformatting it. If this doesn't work, switch roms and do a clean install of said rom...
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I've run scandisks (using a microSD USB adapter) on the card and it shows everything OK. I also have not had any instances of lost or corrupt data (thankfully).
VeNuM said:
5. - Samsung made the pw protected lockscreen this way. You can try the widget if you like.
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Which widget are you referring to?
Thanks again all!
5. My phone is rooted but I have to have a password on it since I use it for work. Is there any way to NOT have it lock immediately after I use the power button to turn the screen off? In other words, I just want it to lock based on the Screen unlock settings timeout value. I know there are some widgets that will do this but I'd rather press the power button instead of scrolling to the screen with a widget.
Idk. You refer to one at the end of your sentence above... Figured you had one...
VeNuM said:
Idk. You refer to one at the end of your sentence above... Figured you had one...
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LOL, Ahh, OK. No I do not (yet).... I'm trying a lite version of "Smart Screen Off" right now. Works good (aside from being little too sensitive) but I want to find out how battery life is effected before I spring for the paid version.
BTW, I was able to get rid of the last of the grayed out icons by copying the effected programs to/from the SD card. All cleaned up!
Wayno-san said:
I'm unclear about how the install location is actually determined... I know that if the SD card is unmounted then a lot of the normally available programs go gray so I know those are installed on the external SD card.... however, the "internal SD", or "USB storage" on my phone is almost completely full so not everything is getting installed on the external (plugged in) SD card. All the gameloft games installed in the USB storage area along with IVONA voices and a few other programs.
Thanks again all!
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Apps have a separate place where they go. It has a built in 2GB for apps that's separate from the internal memory. So apps are either installed there or the external sd card. Your internal must be full with other stuff like music, movies, photos and things of that nature.
Edit: Game apps even tho they don't install into the USB storage they do copy all files like the music and stuff into the USB storage. That can also be draining your space
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Wayno-san said:
BTW, I was able to get rid of the last of the grayed out icons by copying the effected programs to/from the SD card. All cleaned up!
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Your welcome! Lol
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With everything going on in the news with apps being able to read your media I was wondering how easy it is for someone to access your information from your phone.
While on the phone you can use a pin or password to prevent someone from going into your phone and I know that there are apps that will individually allow you to password protect individual apps or even "hide" your media if someone gets your phone. You can do a remote wipe of the card with some of the security software but you have be quicker than the "thief" in activating the wipe.
What I have not been able to figure out is how I would protect the SD Card on the phone if someone pulled it out before I had a chance to do a remote wipe. I have not seen anything, with a general search, that will block access on the SD Card if someone puts it in a computer. Other than not loosing my phone what options are out there?
I am running a rooted EVO 4G using the Senseless version of tommytomatoes Classic Rom.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Doc
Thanks for any suggestions.
Encrypt the card?
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If I encrypt the card won't it prevent the other apps from accessing data on the card? Also what will that do to the function of the apps that have been partially moved to the SD Card?
Is there a step by step on how to encrypt?
Thanks,
Doc
What I feel we really need is an app that manages permissions instead of having to blanket allow an app it would be nice if I had another app that could block some of those permissions if I feel like it , sure it may break the app using those apps but control and security are more important, maybe a toggle feature so you can toggle permissions for various apps and sort them by permission type. I have no idea if this can be done, I'm just an end user that sees a need. What do you guys think?
As for the op , in some cases your just screwed , nothing can ever be 100% secure , who is to say even if encrypted it can't be cracked ? And encrypting the sd card but allowing apps access defeats the purpose if the thief can access the data through those apps before you can start a remote wipe.
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I wish someone would solve this problem as soon as possible, looking forward to it
I realize that not everything is 100% but it seems silly that no matter what precautions I take by using a pin lock or pass-phrase, it can be circumvented just by removing the SD Card. Of course if I encrypt the card then many of the apps may not work unless they have the functionality to decrypt/encrypt on the fly.
I just need to make sure to remotely wipe the card if I ever loose the phone.
Thanks to everyone who responded.
Doc
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i have been on several roms and when i hit about 250apps+ on my internal memory my apps start to not show up in the app drawer but they are still installed then when i restart the launcher my all my apps will show but then again after 10min its the same thing..my apps start to disappear leaving me with about 20 in there? i have been on gingerbread and ics, is this normal for the sgs2?
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i took sd card out then in twice and phone would not read it until i rebooted my phone now it can see my sd card hence apps are all back as normal. why does my phone kick out the sd card like that?
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By any chance did you change kernels after loading those apps?
in my case my sd card kept un mounting not diminishing in available capacity. yup i did why? im on calkin el29 3.0 and then to flash the modem i did for just in case. Im going to have a little R&R over at the thread to see if it happens to other people. also does the below link could apply to the sgs2 system as well and work as a fix if needed?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863222
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863222
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I was killing apps with that task killer and i think that's what happened there is no option to exclude apps?
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actually i have the issue again and its not the task killer this time. and its the internel storage not the sd card is there a fix
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Fast Boot option may be the culprit
So, maybe the disappearing apps has nothing to do with storage type (sdcard, internal phone) and task killers?
This is actually a long-standing problem in Android OS, going back at least two years (donkey's years in this technology!)
Something about the interaction of the OS and an sdcard formated for holding apps creates odd behaviours.
Lots of complicated suggestions have been made, including reformatting sdcard, reinstalling ROMs, changing launchers (the one suggested here) and such.
None of these approaches seems really to solve the problem even in most cases.
What seems to be working for me (at least for the last week or so) is the following very simple tweak.
CUT TO THE SOLUTION BELOW -- SEARCH FOR ////
Some (not all) of my apps moved to SD (all by Titanium Backup Pro) have begun to disappear and (sometimes) reappear without warning after I began to add and delete large Virtual Machines created in QEMU from my 16GB SanDisc class 10 microSD card on my HTC Droid Incredible running rooted stock Verizon Android Froyo 2.2.3. I know this thread is far from my phone's "home base", but from what I can tell this problem with disappearing apps located on an sdcard is NOT determined by hardware or even Android version.
I also happen to use LauncherPro by Federico Carnales instead of the built-in HTC Sense launcher. I noted elsewhere on XDA that a user had suggested that because at least some (maybe all) launchers start before the SD Card that this may be a problem, especially if changes are made to the sdcard that the launcher did not perform, or was not active during their performance by other apps such as Titanium Backup. That fits my situation, because I unmounted the SD, physically removed it to a PC, and added/deleted large VM files to save (lots) of time. No problems of this sort before I did this, so there must be some connection.
I noted that other users have tried reformatting SD, substituting different brands of SD, using newer/older SD etc. None of these reliably helped. So I skipped these options.
//// The (simple!) solution I tried that SEEMS to work (only time will tell!) is buried in the main Android Settings (accessed from the Menu button while in Home screen). Under "Applications" there is a setting "Fast Boot" that I checked long ago and forgot about (it seemed like a good thing to do at the time). The text warns "Turn off to use some Market apps" (that shows the age of my 2-yr old used phone and Android OS -- ohmygosh!-- because it refers to Market rather than Google Play Store!) Anyway, I unchecked the option and rebooted the phone.
Yes, it took a bit longer to boot (maybe a whole minute!), but after waiting about another minute ALL my home screen apps had normal icons and loaded properly. Titanium Backup Pro batch scenarios confirmed there were no apps in a forced uninstalled state (i.e. I had not done the deed, the system somehow had done it or at least rendered the apps "invisible" to Titanium, which decided they needed reinstallation).
The only odd behaviour was that auto brightness was turned off after I unchecked Fast Boot and rebooted. Going into Android Settings > Display and rechecking "auto brightness" took care of that. No other oddities or strange behaviours thus far (but it has only been about an hour).
I will report anything further on this thread only (Samsung Fascinate > Fascinate Q&A > What just happend? apps on sdcard) if anything else requires reporting. Silence implies success!
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1873670
(I am copying this post to other relevant threads, but will not post anything further elsewhere -- only there. This is a bit arbitrary (especially now that the chosen thread no longer is the most recent active one on this topic), but I hope this approach pleases the XDA sysops/admins) :angel:
Can we have a class action suite against Google, the carriers and/or the phone vendors (Samsung in this case) for taking meaningful SD support away
1. sue to get reimbursed for the cost of the SD card which is now nearly useless.
2. sue them due to conflict of interest where the carrier charges for bandwidth-- when we use cloud storage instead of SD storage and where google is effectively forcing us to use the cloud-- which google has a great interest in.
Even a symbolic attempt at a class action suit maybe useful.
Maybe that will force google to pay attention to the user rather than to their big plans which they force on us?
davidshooki said:
Can we have a class action suite against Google, the carriers and/or the phone vendors (Samsung in this case) for taking meaningful SD support away
1. sue to get reimbursed for the cost of the SD card which is now nearly useless.
2. sue them due to conflict of interest where the carrier charges for bandwidth-- when we use cloud storage instead of SD storage and where google is effectively forcing us to use the cloud-- which google has a great interest in.
Even a symbolic attempt at a class action suit maybe useful.
Maybe that will force google to pay attention to the user rather than to their big plans which they force on us?
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1.No.
2.No.
3.They're not forcing you to do anything.
4.Not only would Google laugh, they'd think its an April fools joke.
5. SDcard policy changed in 5.0
Lol .
Pp.
davidshooki said:
Can we have a class action suite against Google, the carriers and/or the phone vendors (Samsung in this case) for taking meaningful SD support away
1. sue to get reimbursed for the cost of the SD card which is now nearly useless.
2. sue them due to conflict of interest where the carrier charges for bandwidth-- when we use cloud storage instead of SD storage and where google is effectively forcing us to use the cloud-- which google has a great interest in.
Even a symbolic attempt at a class action suit maybe useful.
Maybe that will force google to pay attention to the user rather than to their big plans which they force on us?
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You do realize you can get the SD card back to the way it was pretty easily?
Google or search this forum for several apps, or for the settings you need to change to get it to work.
There is even a free app on the Play Store.
rlichtefeld said:
You do realize you can get the SD card back to the way it was pretty easily?
Google or search this forum for several apps, or for the settings you need to change to get it to work.
There is even a free app on the Play Store.
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Searching is so yesterday! I should be able to come and ask any question that pops into my head regardless of how many times it's been answered; I mean.. this IS a support site, right?
I'm obviously kidding. I just wanted to chime in.. what's so different about KitKat's SD policy and JellyBean? I mean, other than that SDFix app which I haven't had to use since KitKat first came out, I haven't noticed any difference in accessing the extSdCard between 4.2.2 up to 4.4.4. I assume most custom ROMs have the fix built right in? That could be why I haven't noticed it now that I think of it...
I can't find any fix for a un-rooted cell phone, and for the most part I am ok with the stock ROM and don't need to root... except that now my SD card is, for the most part, useless.
I also don't understand the reasoning for this: my apps are free to do what they want on the phone's internal card. They are just blocked from writing to the external card. They can read whatever they want from the external card as well. So they still have some access to my personal and sensitive information. I don't see the point other than trying to slowly phase out external cards and forcing us to use carrier/vendor's services. There are so many better ways to implement this if the goal was really security rather than to limit the use of SD cards.
davidshooki said:
I can't find any fix for a un-rooted cell phone, and for the most part I am ok with the stock ROM and don't need to root... except that now my SD card is, for the most part, useless.
I also don't understand the reasoning for this: my apps are free to do what they want on the phone's internal card. They are just blocked from writing to the external card. They can read whatever they want from the external card as well. So they still have some access to my personal and sensitive information. I don't see the point other than trying to slowly phase out external cards and forcing us to use carrier/vendor's services. There are so many better ways to implement this if the goal was really security rather than to limit the use of SD cards.
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Well, for the first time ever, I am considering apple/iphone since it seems that is where Android is striving to be. At this point I may even consider Windows phone.
davidshooki said:
Well, for the first time ever, I am considering apple/iphone since it seems that is where Android is striving to be. At this point I may even consider Windows phone.
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Please do, and yes we want to be iPhone
ShinySide said:
Please do, and yes we want to be iPhone
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lol my sd card doesn't work at the moment but i'm not complaining (im on android 5.0 cm rom).