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hi i download froyo 2.2 to my htc touch pro2 for t-mobile and i was wondering if i will get charged if i don't change my unlimited windows data plan to an unlimited android data plan while using the internet and the android market
d_freshley said:
hi i download froyo 2.2 to my htc touch pro2 for t-mobile and i was wondering if i will get charged if i don't change my unlimited windows data plan to an unlimited android data plan while using the internet and the android market
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Just use it... if it works, great. I know Cricket users had issues because Cricket would block access to the market, but I don't know of any other carrier that does this.
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but my phone doesn't block my internet im just worried that t-mobile will charge because im using android internet on a windows data plan
d_freshley said:
but my phone doesn't block my internet im just worried that t-mobile will charge because im using android internet on a windows data plan
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I'm on Sprint and they haven't said a thing if it makes you feel any better... I can't make any guarantees that your provider won't tho.
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when u got your touch pro 2 did you have to switch your data to windows
d_freshley said:
when u got your touch pro 2 did you have to switch your data to windows
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Switch my data to Windows...? What does that even mean?
hes tryin to say theres no such thing as a windows data plan, android data plan, etc. You have one data plan that covers your acct. whatever you do to your phone is still under the same data plan.
and he was being nice about it, frankly i would have just said that if you don't understand that much than you shouldn't be on this website
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and he was being nice about it, frankly i would have just said that if you don't understand that much than you shouldn't be on this website
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you're absolutely right
thanks 4 the tip
im not exactly sure what you mean but it shouldnt matter...android or windows because youre accessing the internet through your carriers network...should be the same either way
He sounds like a U.S. Cellular guy, like myself, so let me elaborate:
USCC is charging $25/mo for data plans if you have a BB or WinMo, but that goes up to $30/mo if you have an Android (they claim Android users will eat more network load, though we here at XDA all know that's a pretty vague excuse).
But no, they have no idea (or care) that you are using Android on the TP2 and not paying the $30/mo. Go live it up.
i have been using android on my tmo tp2 pretty much since its been available...i have never had any extra charges
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I think it depends on your carrier...
Here's a rule of thumb - if the market works & everything else works as expected, you're probably OK. If the market traffic is blocked, then your carrier probably wants you to pay extra $$$ for an Android data plan.
@noodles21o2 and Chizzwizz... no reason to be rude, its a valid question for some carriers... To your posts I say if you have nothing worth while to say, don't post on this site, I cannot stand those bs elitist answers.
@ OP.... if it makes you feel any better, I was using a blackberry as a temp phone until I got my tp 2 replaced, I switched it to a blackberry internet plan but I never switched it back and my internet works just fine in windows mobile and android. I dont think that anyone really knows (or cares) If they really wanted to I am sure they can poll your device... but will they in the vast sea of users using the cell broadband network? Likely not. I wouldn't worry about it.
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hes tryin to say theres no such thing as a windows data plan, android data plan, etc. You have one data plan that covers your acct. whatever you do to your phone is still under the same data plan.
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there is no rudeness in my comment...i was really tryin to be helpful...didnt kno us cellular was weird
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us cellular was weird
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USCC is weird about a lot of things, lol
noodles21o2 said:
and he was being nice about it, frankly i would have just said that if you don't understand that much than you shouldn't be on this website
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People like you need to remember we are not all the same and we don't all know the same.
If you don't want top help a noob out then shut what they call the hell up and remember we were all there at one time.
d_freshley said:
when u got your touch pro 2 did you have to switch your data to windows
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If it makes you feel any better I am on a Sprint plan where they specifically said that android is not allowed and I still use my touchpro2 all the time with android.
my apologies to the OP, i got my data plan 4 years ago and still on my parents plan so i dont see the bill. i was unaware that things have changed since then
Is there a real guide on how to get a Sprint Evo 4G working on Boost Mobile? I have searched everywhere on various forums, but have come up empty handed. Except for some youtube videos, no1 wants to even talk on how to do it.
Wrong place for this question. Should be in Q & A.
Impossible to put EVO on Boost Mobile.
mitchellvii said:
Wrong place for this question. Should be in Q & A.
Impossible to put EVO on Boost Mobile.
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No, its not impossible. I have seen it for myself.
Just call Boost Mobile Customer Service, give then the ESN number, which must be clean, and have then activate the ESN. You must have a working Boost Mobile account prior to doing it. Do not tell them you have an EVO, just give them the ESN. Some reps will tell you right away it can't be done, others do not even look at the fact that it is a Sprint phone and just put it on the system. Keep trying, be courteus, if the 1st rep does not do it, call back. It has worked for me.
Lol no matter if he gives them the esn it dont have to be clean why u think people switch to cricket u need to flash the prl first and then manual add the wdb and mms settings u must have ur boost number first just follow the cricket guide but google boost mms and web servers and uze them along with ur boost prl
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Just call Boost Mobile Customer Service, give then the ESN number, which must be clean, and have then activate the ESN. You must have a working Boost Mobile account prior to doing it. Do not tell them you have an EVO, just give them the ESN. Some reps will tell you right away it can't be done, others do not even look at the fact that it is a Sprint phone and just put it on the system. Keep trying, be courteus, if the 1st rep does not do it, call back. It has worked for me.
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do what he said but instead of calling back just go onto boostmobile.com and do it there you may need to enter the esn number 3 or 4 times but it will take it.
Dude r u people stupid its a sprint phone so it requires to be flash so it can get the boost tower that means prl flash duh u need cdma workshop and qualcom
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Lmao im going to call att to give them my esn oh snap I will have a sprint on att impossible dude same as a sprint phone recieving boost with no flash when u flash it call 611 u will here wel,omd to boost not sprint ask anyone look up tbe crap on google
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I had my evo done because i couldn't find a good guide to flash it to boost. Now everything is working great.
oh and my boost phone also works too. It's basically a clone.
Ostthug2k said:
I had my evo done because i couldn't find a good guide to flash it to boost. Now everything is working great.
oh and my boost phone also works too. It's basically a clone.
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Not wise to keep them on at the same time.
I'd say outright dumb.
But hey, your mileage may vary
krazydude4g said:
Dude r u people stupid its a sprint phone so it requires to be flash so it can get the boost tower that means prl flash duh u need cdma workshop and qualcom
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THANK YOU! Im reading like "are these ppl serious?" Calling boost with an Evo Esn # will get u nowhere they're not gonna activate it Period. if it was that simple Sprint would have NO business. I dont know the Step by Step (but i seen the process) but the evo must be properly flashed to work with boost (too much work for me so i jus had a friend of a friend do it for me for $70) and from wut i understand its technically illegal cus it involves esn cloning an other trickery blah blah...politics
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THANK YOU! Im reading like "are these ppl serious?" Calling boost with an Evo Esn # will get u nowhere they're not gonna activate it Period. if it was that simple Sprint would have NO business. I dont know the Step by Step (but i seen the process) but the evo must be properly flashed to work with boost (too much work for me so i jus had a friend of a friend do it for me for $70) and from wut i understand its technically illegal cus it involves esn cloning an other trickery blah blah...politics
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No your wrong boost is owned by sprint and their cdma phones run off of sprint network truth is a Evo could run on boost cdma portion if and only if you get someone dumb enough to activate the esn and imei on there without checking what type of phone it is I've seen both Evo's and here's on boost. Truth is those people got lucky and no no esn cloning is needed like I said you just need someone dumb enough to NOT CHECK WHAT PHONE IT IS! You won't have 4G but you still get 3G, all possible cause THEY RUN ON THE SAME NETWORK AND SIGNAL
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No your wrong boost is owned by sprint and their cdma phones run off of sprint network truth is a Evo could run on boost cdma portion if and only if you get someone dumb enough to activate the esn and imei on there without checking what type of phone it is I've seen both Evo's and here's on boost. Truth is those people got lucky and no no esn cloning is needed like I said you just need someone dumb enough to NOT CHECK WHAT PHONE IT IS! You won't have 4G but you still get 3G, all possible cause THEY RUN ON THE SAME NETWORK AND SIGNAL
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Im not exactly wrong, I know boost is owned by sprint and I see wut ur saying ..yes if u get lucky enough to get a rep to just blindly activate an evo then lucky u. ESN cloning is an (illegal) precaution cus believe it or not most of the reps do their job an will deny activation. but let's say they do activate it that way, everything is not gonna work like web an mms those settings HAVE to be manually altered.
The whole point is for boost to think u have one of there phones... any rep has the right to shut u down if they see an evo on ur account
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Im not exactly wrong, I know boost is owned by sprint and I see wut ur saying ..yes if u get lucky enough to get a rep to just blindly activate an evo then lucky u. ESN cloning is an (illegal) precaution cus believe it or not most of the reps do their job an will deny activation. but let's say they do activate it that way, everything is not gonna work like web an mms those settings HAVE to be manually altered.
The whole point is for boost to think u have one of there phones... any rep has the right to shut u down if they see an evo on ur account
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I stand partially corrected
( I am literally standing to)
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Jbcarrera said:
I stand partially corrected
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Sent from my EVO at the edge of Hell
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Lol Its cool man, its a good move if u don't live in a 4g area like me (I doubt it will ever come here) im saving $40 a month, everything working an not paying for 4g service I don't have ...but if anyone ask u tell em I have a samsung rant lol
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ddark4eva said:
Lol Its cool man, its a good move if u don't live in a 4g area like me (I doubt it will ever come here) im saving $40 a month, everything working an not paying for 4g service I don't have ...but if anyone ask u tell em I have a samsung rant lol
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What EVO?
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What EVO?
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Yep
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How do i do it???
Is there a guide, links something to get me started because im not paying anyone to do this because id like to do this myself. I looked up the cdma workshop but i have no clue where to go from there.What about my prl, what settings do i need to flash this to. Plz help me with links or a guide/walkthrough/telling me how. Thanks in advance.
trizyman said:
Is there a guide, links something to get me started because im not paying anyone to do this because id like to do this myself. I looked up the cdma workshop but i have no clue where to go from there.What about my prl, what settings do i need to flash this to. Plz help me with links or a guide/walkthrough/telling me how. Thanks in advance.
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You want on Boost, buy a Boost phone.
thetakara said:
You want on Boost, buy a Boost phone.
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Thx but no Thx Ive brought many boost/nextel phones. i90/i95/i730/i530/i930 etc. I even use to mod them. Now Ive UPGRADED to have an ANDROID Evo an Im not Downgrading/buying another crappy boost phone. SO if anyone has any useful info plz inform me. Also Ive seen u can gsm unlock the phone how useful is that.
My wife and I use our phones more for the smart phone functions, and maybe use 300-500 minutes, 500 texts a month. The ting mobile plans would save us $1000 a year, the problem is that you have to buy phones straight from them.
According to the Ting support, some of their customers have gotten around this problem by purchasing one of their cheap phones, and then cloning the ESN to their better sprint / verizon phone. Ting encourages this, but I need to figure out how to do it.
Any ideas? Thanks!
I tried to post the link to the ting support staff statement, but apparently I haven't posted on XDA enough yet. So to find the forum post, just highlight this (including the quotation marks) and google it:
"Is it possible to activate ex-Verizon or ex-Sprint smartphone on Ting?"
This is possible I'm sorry I don't have a how to but I'm here to give you some encouragement. This has been done on numerous different wireless carriers so if you figure out how it would be as simple as 1,2,3...
I think flashing to alternative carriers doesn't differ so if you look at the how to flash boost mobile or cricket here on xda and ask them ill link them to ya
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473141
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This is something i would like to know too been trying to find a way to get my GF att phone to work with Verizon but everything ive found says it cant be done because Verizon is CDMA and att is GSM and the 2 technologies arent compatible
Pretty sure you guys are going to get flamed for this discussion or worse.
Isn't messing with esn illegal?
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K3VlN said:
This is something i would like to know too been trying to find a way to get my GF att phone to work with Verizon but everything ive found says it cant be done because Verizon is CDMA and att is GSM and the 2 technologies arent compatible
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Yeah your not going to get anything working there two completly different radio frequecies there bud
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mjben said:
Pretty sure you guys are going to get flamed for this discussion or worse.
Isn't messing with esn illegal?
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Yes but this is flashing to an alternative carrier with an esn they have bought and paid for what your referring to is a ghost esn not esn swapping
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yeah thats what i gathered just trying to find out if there was a way to get around that with out taking the phone apart...i told her to just sell it on swappa i already rooted it so she should get a lil chunk of change for it
mjben said:
Pretty sure you guys are going to get flamed for this discussion or worse.
Isn't messing with esn illegal?
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Really man... you haven't seen the threads on how to do this for boost, virgin, and cricket? Those threads have been here since before I was a member... you're just not allowed to go into significant detail about it... as long as nobody explains how to do the esn switch you all should be alright... (btw there are TONS of guides on how to do this.... its basically the same for every carrier with minor changes here and there...) not hard to do and takes less than 20 minutes once you get it down... also if you would rather metro pcs or have one in your area most of their stores have a rep there that will do this for you... just don't pay them until they get data working!!!!
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Yes but this is flashing to an alternative carrier with an esn they have bought and paid for what your referring to is a ghost esn not esn swapping
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Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarity. I've seen other folks threads get quite beaten up over that sort of thing.
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Should have no problem flashing the phone as long as both phones are cdma phones. Might be difficult getting mobile data and MMS working though. I am running an epic on virgin mobile and everything works except mms. I have gotten mms to send just can't receive it. As for the legality I made sure to zero out the esn on my old phone so both cant be active at same time. Might be a good idea to avoid the risk of being banned.
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Thanks everybody!
Entirely Possible
Yes, a Sprint phone on Ting would be easy to do. In your case, the Epic 4G phone by Samsung is incredibly easy to change the ESN on. All Samsung phones are really... especially on Verizon as their SPC codes are 000000. The standard Samsung SPC code unlock password though should work on Sprint Samsung phones. Google around for it.
The problem with all of this though is that you'll have to purchase a Ting phone in the first place. Now maybe you could purchase the feature phone that they have available and use that ESN, but using hundreds of megabytes on an ESN that is supposed to be a feature phone might be suspect in Ting's system. I'm not sure they would care though, but you would stick out like a sore thumb. Buying one of their smart phones seems to defeat the purpose of doing this as you would be left with a unusable smartphone that is probably better than your Epic 4G in the first place. You could take your Epic 4G to Boost. I admit, Ting rocks especially for more than one phone on a plan, but Boost isn't bad.
Don't go to Virgin Mobile. It is the same network as Sprint and Boost, but getting the phone on VM is difficult. You need the A-logins and Passwords that are difficult to get if you don't know what you are doing. Also, VM seems to more actively police their network for this type of use and if you don't have everything exactly copied from the donor phone you'll be noticed. No one really is sure what all needs to be copied over and after about 3 months or so the phone is usually noticed. It is kinda a mystery. I noticed that a person above said he has a phone on VM from another carrier. Might want to inquire with him though he said that he had several phones so maybe the little use of the VM phone is enabling him to skirt under the radar.
For the person looking for AT&T on Verizon... as already mentioned... not possible. I would look into using Red Pocket for AT&T's MVNO. You could also go to Simple Mobile, but would not get 3G data.
Let me know of anyone else has any questions...
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Yes, a Sprint phone on Ting would be easy to do. In your case, the Epic 4G phone by Samsung is incredibly easy to change the ESN on. All Samsung phones are really... especially on Verizon as their SPC codes are 000000. The standard Samsung SPC code unlock password though should work on Sprint Samsung phones. Google around for it.
The problem with all of this though is that you'll have to purchase a Ting phone in the first place. Now maybe you could purchase the feature phone that they have available and use that ESN, but using hundreds of megabytes on an ESN that is supposed to be a feature phone might be suspect in Ting's system. I'm not sure they would care though, but you would stick out like a sore thumb. Buying one of their smart phones seems to defeat the purpose of doing this as you would be left with a unusable smartphone that is probably better than your Epic 4G in the first place. You could take your Epic 4G to Boost. I admit, Ting rocks especially for more than one phone on a plan, but Boost isn't bad.
Don't go to Virgin Mobile. It is the same network as Sprint and Boost, but getting the phone on VM is difficult. You need the A-logins and Passwords that are difficult to get if you don't know what you are doing. Also, VM seems to more actively police their network for this type of use and if you don't have everything exactly copied from the donor phone you'll be noticed. No one really is sure what all needs to be copied over and after about 3 months or so the phone is usually noticed. It is kinda a mystery. I noticed that a person above said he has a phone on VM from another carrier. Might want to inquire with him though he said that he had several phones so maybe the little use of the VM phone is enabling him to skirt under the radar.
For the person looking for AT&T on Verizon... as already mentioned... not possible. I would look into using Red Pocket for AT&T's MVNO. You could also go to Simple Mobile, but would not get 3G data.
Let me know of anyone else has any questions...
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Virgin Mobile isn't hard to do.. I wrote up the guide for us, the only ones having issues are the few who don't use the phone written on the guide, and many who do not bother reading the guide. I have heard boost is actually more tedious.
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Im not asking for instructions/guide. i just have a quick question.
I want to know if i buy the Samsung Gusto on verzion prepaid can it be used to flash my already boosted flashed evo 4g and have full 3g data?
Alienx15 said:
Im not asking for instructions/guide. i just have a quick question.
I want to know if i buy the Samsung Gusto on verzion prepaid can it be used to flash my already boosted flashed evo 4g and have full 3g data?
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i would like to know as well, having a nice phone on verizon prepaid for unlimited talk and data for $50 would be the cool. i would switch from my 0g 4g metropcs $25 mo. unlimited 1x in a flash. get it,flash
i wondered about this a while back when i first seen verizon had unlimited prepaid, i called everyone to get the details and low and behold verizon prepaid xustomers service said you can only use the ones they allow you too use and they are non android phones. lol figures they want the prepaid people from otjer carriers to switch and at the aame time not lose any of their own android paying cuatomers. paying like $125 or more/mo.
Hey if anybody knows please tell me how to get the HA and AAA passwords from the Pantech Caper without the newest CDMA Workshop PM Me
Sorry guys i just edited it i meant without the newest cdma workshop PAID. I only have the cdma workshop 2.7.0 cracked
Best place to ask those questions is in Howard's forums thats the place to be at.
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What he said there is a guide in the page plus fourmunder handset technical page 14 will get you 3g if follow that guide
Thanx you guys that will help with the data but all i need to know is can i u QXDM to get the HA and AAA shared Passwords from the Pantech Caper
Ran into an issue with the Caper. I would appreciate 64-bit drivers for windows 7 on the caper i already tried the Verizon access manger way. Or do i need to downgrade to 32-bit?
I wouldn't think the caper is a 3g phone, I flashed mine using a LG revere and got the keys by using a fascinate.
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Lol even that way I'm stuck at 1x so I gave up and used the fascinate with the 50$ plan its so much easier but if u pm me on how u are getting it working I would greatly appreciate it
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Do any NVItems need to copied from the Caper for it to work. Does anybody have the full guide?
Hi guys, I'm about to cancel my Sprint account and root the evo to boost, the incognito/rant are no longer on sale except on eBay. Which of the newer cheapest phone from Boost I can use as a donor???? I am afraid to get a used one from eBay thinking it might not work. Thanks in advance.
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Hi guys, I'm about to cancel my Sprint account and root the evo to boost, the incognito/rant are no longer on sale except on eBay. Which of the newer cheapest phone from Boost I can use as a donor???? I am afraid to get a used one from eBay thinking it might not work. Thanks in advance.
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I've gotten mine, always used incognito, from craigslist. Doesn't matter what condition the phone is in as long as it powers up and can connect the usb port. I've done it with the Evo and the E3D. I want to try one of the Galaxy phones next but haven't gotten my hands on one. Good luck.
I've done two now with the incognito and their both working fine.
Technically you could use any 3g phone, it just may be harder to get all the info you need since most of the directions are for those 2...
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Thanks guys, so I won't matter if the incognito has been used as a donor before?? does it has to be an incognito from Boost or any other carries who might have sold it.:good:
It has to be from boost. And it can ONLY be used as a donor once at a time.
Meaning, say a buddy uses it to flash his evo. If he's still using it, you can't.
So if your buying one, make sure its a clean esn and activatible.
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Thanks to all, I think I'm ready now. I did search CL and found a couple near where I am, just need to make sure they're ok. Thanks again
SilverTigre2010 said:
Thanks guys, so I won't matter if the incognito has been used as a donor before?? does it has to be an incognito from Boost or any other carries who might have sold it.:good:
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Just change the phone number on the Incognito it will assign new HA/AAA information.
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Just change the phone number on the Incognito it will assign new HA/AAA information.
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But that doesn't matter. When you clone the info to a new phone, its always going to use the same unique numbers. The HA/AAA are only the passwords needed to access the information.
The esn/meid are unique and only 1 phone has those numbers. Its like a network mac address.
So no, you still can only use a phone once at a time. Otherwise, I could sell just the numbers off my phone all day long.
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I'm not talking about multiple people using the same information.
I'm talking about generating new HA/AAA information so at least he would know there's no way for some else to have it like the guy he bought it from.
By activating the phone you know if its in use or not.
He wouldn't be able to even activate the phone if someone is even using the MEID or ESN.
Can't you just call boost with your evo's ESN and they'll put it on their network? No need for a donor if so.
Some people claim they have but their official policy is against it, most have said they've been denied and I haven't even tried.
They can tell what ESN is coming from where Boost and Sprint ESNs are not considered the same in their systems.
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Can't you just call boost with your evo's ESN and they'll put it on their network? No need for a donor if so.
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To my understanding after reading a few blogs is that you can't do that, it will seem doable because is basically the same network(Sprint) but aparently is not possible therefore the need to flash.
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Just to update there are some other phones that can be use see this.
I was able to get a brand new incognito from a Sprint Store in VA, I spoke to one of the managers and they're getting rid off all the old boost mobile phones, I got mine for less than $30 they can even go lower If you buy in bulk, I thought about buying them(they had about 20) and reselling them on CL but didn't do it(not enough cash).
Anyway I completed the flash and now I am using my 4G Evo with boost, I am down to $25/month, I got the Pay as you go plan $.50/day unlimited web + $0.20/minute call. Works great for me since I don't use the phone to make calls, mostly text and web. Running ICS ROM of course with no 4G, I was paying about $93/month with Sprint.