[Q] data plan - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development

hi i download froyo 2.2 to my htc touch pro2 for t-mobile and i was wondering if i will get charged if i don't change my unlimited windows data plan to an unlimited android data plan while using the internet and the android market

d_freshley said:
hi i download froyo 2.2 to my htc touch pro2 for t-mobile and i was wondering if i will get charged if i don't change my unlimited windows data plan to an unlimited android data plan while using the internet and the android market
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Just use it... if it works, great. I know Cricket users had issues because Cricket would block access to the market, but I don't know of any other carrier that does this.

thanks
but my phone doesn't block my internet im just worried that t-mobile will charge because im using android internet on a windows data plan

d_freshley said:
but my phone doesn't block my internet im just worried that t-mobile will charge because im using android internet on a windows data plan
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I'm on Sprint and they haven't said a thing if it makes you feel any better... I can't make any guarantees that your provider won't tho.

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when u got your touch pro 2 did you have to switch your data to windows

d_freshley said:
when u got your touch pro 2 did you have to switch your data to windows
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Switch my data to Windows...? What does that even mean?

hes tryin to say theres no such thing as a windows data plan, android data plan, etc. You have one data plan that covers your acct. whatever you do to your phone is still under the same data plan.

and he was being nice about it, frankly i would have just said that if you don't understand that much than you shouldn't be on this website

noodles21o2 said:
and he was being nice about it, frankly i would have just said that if you don't understand that much than you shouldn't be on this website
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you're absolutely right

thanks 4 the tip

im not exactly sure what you mean but it shouldnt matter...android or windows because youre accessing the internet through your carriers network...should be the same either way

He sounds like a U.S. Cellular guy, like myself, so let me elaborate:
USCC is charging $25/mo for data plans if you have a BB or WinMo, but that goes up to $30/mo if you have an Android (they claim Android users will eat more network load, though we here at XDA all know that's a pretty vague excuse).
But no, they have no idea (or care) that you are using Android on the TP2 and not paying the $30/mo. Go live it up.

i have been using android on my tmo tp2 pretty much since its been available...i have never had any extra charges
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I think it depends on your carrier...
Here's a rule of thumb - if the market works & everything else works as expected, you're probably OK. If the market traffic is blocked, then your carrier probably wants you to pay extra $$$ for an Android data plan.

@noodles21o2 and Chizzwizz... no reason to be rude, its a valid question for some carriers... To your posts I say if you have nothing worth while to say, don't post on this site, I cannot stand those bs elitist answers.
@ OP.... if it makes you feel any better, I was using a blackberry as a temp phone until I got my tp 2 replaced, I switched it to a blackberry internet plan but I never switched it back and my internet works just fine in windows mobile and android. I dont think that anyone really knows (or cares) If they really wanted to I am sure they can poll your device... but will they in the vast sea of users using the cell broadband network? Likely not. I wouldn't worry about it.

chizzwhizz said:
hes tryin to say theres no such thing as a windows data plan, android data plan, etc. You have one data plan that covers your acct. whatever you do to your phone is still under the same data plan.
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there is no rudeness in my comment...i was really tryin to be helpful...didnt kno us cellular was weird

chizzwhizz said:
us cellular was weird
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USCC is weird about a lot of things, lol

noodles21o2 said:
and he was being nice about it, frankly i would have just said that if you don't understand that much than you shouldn't be on this website
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People like you need to remember we are not all the same and we don't all know the same.
If you don't want top help a noob out then shut what they call the hell up and remember we were all there at one time.

d_freshley said:
when u got your touch pro 2 did you have to switch your data to windows
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If it makes you feel any better I am on a Sprint plan where they specifically said that android is not allowed and I still use my touchpro2 all the time with android.

my apologies to the OP, i got my data plan 4 years ago and still on my parents plan so i dont see the bill. i was unaware that things have changed since then

Related

virtual blackberry

the virtual blackberry for windows mobile 6. does it erase everything on your phone like the windows os and contacts and stuff? or is it just an application that you can run? or does it integrate blackberry features within the windows apps?
more details on this program?
It looks like it is an application
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2121074,00.asp
"Research in Motion will release an "application suite" this fall that will let some Windows Mobile 6 devices run all BlackBerry applications, executives said Monday. "
Also do you have a link to download it or no?
It also states that "The software will appear as an icon on the screen of a smartphone and will have the same interface as a BlackBerry. Users will be able to toggle between the Windows Mobile and BlackBerry interfaces, the company said."
The suite would sit next to, but not overwrite the existing Windows Mobile personal information management applications – so yes, that means you'll have two address books on your device which wouldn't talk to each other. If you have the BlackBerry suite running in the background, the BlackBerry phone and contacts applications will activate when you get a call.
Man, that's very old news: 04.23.07.
Did it come to happen or is it just the BB connect?
Cheers.
Yes, but is it out yet or no? Cause that would be nice once it comes out to have...
virtual blackberry is bbconnect?
is bbconnect the virtual blackberry you're talking about? if it is then i've downloaded it but hit a couple of snags... first of all tmobile won't let me switch to a blackberry internet plan...saying that my dash which is a wm device is not compatible with it... tried twice with two different reps...(because u need a blackberry plan to run this service)...and one question...even if i did manage to convince tmobile to let me have the bb plan, is it faster than edge?
naars90 said:
is bbconnect the virtual blackberry you're talking about? if it is then i've downloaded it but hit a couple of snags... first of all tmobile won't let me switch to a blackberry internet plan...saying that my dash which is a wm device is not compatible with it... tried twice with two different reps...(because u need a blackberry plan to run this service)...and one question...even if i did manage to convince tmobile to let me have the bb plan, is it faster than edge?
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Even Total Internet plan cannot let BB traffic go through?
nope....you would need bb internet plan to be able to connect to the blackberry service apparently...
Just go to tmobile.com and switch your phone to a blackberry on the top right corner, then call tmobile and add the service. This will make them think you have a blackberry. Trust me I work for tmobile so do this and then give a call to them.
jdoggraz said:
Just go to tmobile.com and switch your phone to a blackberry on the top right corner, then call tmobile and add the service. This will make them think you have a blackberry. Trust me I work for tmobile so do this and then give a call to them.
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But is it faster than EDGE? And won't they see that I already have the tmobile internet plan? Has anybody done this before and how did it work out for them?
No its not much faster the edge, its about the same speeds. Oh and you would need to switch your plan like cancel the internet plan and add the other plan for blackberry, but it will not be faster. In order to make the internet faster I would recommend using opera mini which runs in java and it loads pages much faster then internet explorer. Give it a shot and let me know what you think.
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No its not much faster the edge, its about the same speeds. Oh and you would need to switch your plan like cancel the internet plan and add the other plan for blackberry, but it will not be faster. In order to make the internet faster I would recommend using opera mini which runs in java and it loads pages much faster then internet explorer. Give it a shot and let me know what you think.
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Thanks for the support but if it's not faster than edge then I don't see the need to go to all that trouble...again, thanks
naars90 said:
Thanks for the support but if it's not faster than edge then I don't see the need to go to all that trouble...again, thanks
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Yup no problem. Just wait for the new 3G to come out. It should be balling.
im using the bb plan from tmobile on my dash and im using edge....besides i hardly use the internet service.. and also u can change the plan online... no need to talk to a rep... i did everything online... lol to me you cant tell the difference.. everything still feels the same.. the only difference i see on my bill
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im using the bb plan from tmobile on my dash and im using edge....besides i hardly use the internet service.. and also u can change the plan online... no need to talk to a rep... i did everything online... lol to me you cant tell the difference.. everything still feels the same.. the only difference i see on my bill
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Haha thats true thats true, you should try the 5.99 trick... Same difference in speed... Only difference is on the bill 5.99 instead of 19.99
the $5.99 internet plan trick is just like the other internet services on tmobile?
cilver said:
the $5.99 internet plan trick is just like the other internet services on tmobile?
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Yes it is, the only difference is the price on the bill.
P.S. However you have to follow all the instructions labeled to get it working.
Is the Virtual Blackberry App available for DL?
Did a forum search and couldn't locate any info regarding the Virtual Blackberry application. This was talked about a year ago. Has it materialized yet? Is there a working application to download somewhere?
Thanks.

NEW T-Mobile TP2 Owner. GoogleMap Issue?!

Just wanted to check with the other TMO Touch Pro 2 owners. Does anyone have issues with the "my location" feature in GoogleMaps? I constantly get your location is temporarily unavailable. It seems to be unable to triangulate radio towers, but is able to acquire location if I enable GPS. I have updated GoogleMaps and all but it's still unable to triangulate.
Loving the 3G so far!
Any ideas? Thanks.
Works good over here.....
Download and install the new layers version...this should fix you up
dwny said:
Works good over here.....
Download and install the new layers version...this should fix you up
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Yikes! Really? The TMO rep gave me some BS that it was probably cause I had the old 19.99 total internet plan, and that I had to upgrade to the new $25.00 web2go plan or something, but I honestly don't think thats the problem..
Menu>Use GPS
be sure to use QuickGPS to make a fix happen faster.
btw, download the new Google maps. much improved.
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/maps.html#p=winmo
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Menu>Use GPS
be sure to use QuickGPS to make a fix happen faster.
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Yea I know, with the GPS enabled, my location works, but with it disabled, it is unable to acquire through radio tower triangulation which was the old school way before gps came with phones..
crazy talk said:
btw, download the new Google maps. much improved.
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/maps.html#p=winmo
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Mine is the most current I believe...v 3.2
clin0420 said:
Mine is the most current I believe...v 3.2
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alright, because the default one for the T-mobile Tp2 is a much older version. doesn't work very well at all.
and why do you want to use triangulation?
crazy talk said:
alright, because the default one for the T-mobile Tp2 is a much older version. doesn't work very well at all.
and why do you want to use triangulation?
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Well even though GPS is best..its not the most practical sometimes because it takes a while to locate you and it also eats battery power like crazy.
Triangulation can find your general area quickly and saves battery power too..
i get where your coming from now.
i cant find any option to use triangulation. but if you just do a quick search for a local cross street that will get you in the right general area. probably just as fast as well since we have this big awesome keyboard
crazy talk said:
i get where your coming from now.
i cant find any option to use triangulation. but if you just do a quick search for a local cross street that will get you in the right general area. probably just as fast as well since we have this big awesome keyboard
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thanks for your input, but whats really bothering me is whether it is because I have the old total internet plan and not the new web2go plan that I having this issue that others are not experiencing...if so, I'm wondering what other things may not work correctly for me...
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thanks for your input, but whats really bothering me is whether it is because I have the old total internet plan and not the new web2go plan that I having this issue that others are not experiencing...if so, I'm wondering what other things may not work correctly for me...
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I can confirm this issue as well. I have a grandfathered 5.99 tzones plan that I am using and so far everything works BUT for the my location (with GPS disabled) - it sucks
However, I am not that worried - this happened when I bought the Dash - my location did not work with the tmobile ROM. but when I upgraded it to 6.1 using a custom ROM, my location was back.
What truly sucks is that the my location works fine on my wife's jailbroken IPhone, on my unlocked Kaiser (custom ROM though).
So I am hoping once we have HardSPL and can get EnergyROM going here , my location should appear!
I thought i read online that google maps may not get location w/o gps when in 3g mode. If using edge, should work. The brief time i had the dash 3g, it did not work with 3g but if i was using edge it worked fine. Try turning 3g off and see if it works. I hope that something they do fixes it though.
T-Zone $5.99
Hi all, please help! I have the t-zone $5.99 plan and I have the T-mobile TP2,
T-Mobile Rep. said I need the $24.99 for the T-Mobile TP2 and the $24.99 plan will be auto. add to my T-Mobile account. Is this True?
Thanks
EightEight said:
Hi all, please help! I have the t-zone $5.99 plan and I have the T-mobile TP2,
T-Mobile Rep. said I need the $24.99 for the T-Mobile TP2 and the $24.99 plan will be auto. add to my T-Mobile account. Is this True?
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True for me. That's what they did. I didn't protest though, since I wanted the 3G connection.
Even on Edge, the full $25 plan is wayyyy faster. It just is really faster. Maybe that's cuz of the power of the phone, though. But I'm happy.
ace10134 said:
True for me. That's what they did. I didn't protest though, since I wanted the 3G connection.
Even on Edge, the full $25 plan is wayyyy faster. It just is really faster. Maybe that's cuz of the power of the phone, though. But I'm happy.
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Thank for the quick help! I going to put my T-Mobile TP2 on ebay and go for the Pharos 137, so I can keep my T-Zone plan.
EightEight said:
Thank for the quick help! I going to put my T-Mobile TP2 on ebay and go for the Pharos 137, so I can keep my T-Zone plan.
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Lol, cheapscape!
And I always reply like, instantly. I'm new here, but you'll get to know me!
ace10134 said:
True for me. That's what they did. I didn't protest though, since I wanted the 3G connection.
Even on Edge, the full $25 plan is wayyyy faster. It just is really faster. Maybe that's cuz of the power of the phone, though. But I'm happy.
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So does your my locations work with 3g connection on and with the web2go $25.00 plan? Does it include txt messaging?
What APN is everyone using? The default on the phone used to be epc.tmobile.com, but I changed it to internet2.voicestream.com, considering that I was on the old total internet plan and maybe my locations would work then, but unfortunately there was no difference....anyone else do the same?
ace10134 said:
Lol, cheapscape!
And I always reply like, instantly. I'm new here, but you'll get to know me!
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Yes, I am cheap. But, why pay $24.99 for 3G when you can have it for $5.99. I been using my SE TM506 Bluetooth connection to my eeepc for 3G for a long time and I am getting over 150KB speed all over the city. I love the t-zone plan and love to be cheap.
CheapScape
P.S.
Thanks again!
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So does your my locations work with 3g connection on and with the web2go $25.00 plan? Does it include txt messaging?
What APN is everyone using? The default on the phone used to be epc.tmobile.com, but I changed it to internet2.voicestream.com, considering that I was on the old total internet plan and maybe my locations would work then, but unfortunately there was no difference....anyone else do the same?
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I got the $25 plan because my family plan already has TXTing in it. The only difference between $25 and $35 plan is texting. Otherwise they're identical.
I left it on the default APN. Never touched it. Those voicestream connections were always slower, for me, so I don't use them. epc.tmobile.com is the way to go.
And Google Map's locate me feature works fine with cellular triangulation. Mine was defaultly using that, when I installed the new version of Google Maps. Something must be going weird with your setup. Idk.

Teathering on T-Mo TP2?

I am contemplating dumping my HTC Fuze and jumping ship from AT&T to T-Mobile just to get a Touch Pro 2, however I just got off the phone with T-Mo customer service and they informed me that you cannot tether the Touch Pro 2 to a laptop or use it as a modem.
Now I am sure the harware supports tethering and this is just something T-Mobile has decided to cripple, but how easy would it be to enable teathering? I hate the idea of paying $350 plus locking into a new contract and losing functionality from my Fuze!
Baloney.
Internet sharing is on the phone and the HTC WiFiRouter works perfectly.
I have tested both.
Thank you for the fast response, and for clearing this up! Once again, knowledge gained from this site continues to impress me!!!
I think what the T-Mobile people were actually getting at is your not supposed to do it.
I think its in the T&C's that if you have a data plan you wont use it through a computer and to watch video etc
(I use it all the time though and they dont enforce it)
You can tether (legitimately) on Total Internet (their old $20 plan) or the new "PDA" plans ($25 and $35, but include messaging.)
You CANNOT (according to the rules) do so on their "phone" plans (Web2Go I think now) but in some cases it will work. They're enforcing this with the TP2 by doing the "automatic add the feature" game based on IMEI, as they have with other smartphones they are selling now (especially the Android ones that won't work at all without it.)
Note that the TP2 has a number of included features (including embedded account management!) that doesn't work right, especially from the browser, if you use the Internet2 or Internet3 APN. You have to use "epc" if you want those to work.
I'm not sure why they'd care about video and such on the TP2 in particular, seeing as it has a Youtube video viewer BUILT IN FROM THE FACTORY in T-Mobile's software load!
Genesis3 said:
Baloney.
Internet sharing is on the phone and the HTC WiFiRouter works perfectly.
I have tested both.
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Where are you finding this "HTC WiFiRouter"?? (I'm on the T-Mobile version just like you guys)
I don't see it anywhere. I feel like such a newb, lol, even though I'm an ex-cook from my old Wing. So the WiFiRouter thing is pre-installed, right? And it'd let me create a WiFi hotspot for others to connect and use my data? That's what it sounds like.
Am I way off here? Or where the heck is this program? (Welcome everyone)
Search for it here on XDA - its a CAB you have to load.
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Search for it here on XDA - its a CAB you have to load.
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Ok, lol. You made it sound as if it was pre-loaded. I'll find it. Thanks.
T-mobile policy on tethering
Per policy it states that this type of 3g HSPCA device isnt allowed to tether and be used as a modem but the phone says otherwise. Also my theory on the last minute price jump on the tp2 is because tmobile can't stop it from being used as a modem on there smart phone data plans like they have with non rooted android devices. As an employee I researched this heavily before buying the TP2 and its one of the reasons why I went for the device. T-Mobile is so proud of their new 3g network but have made a lot of decisions to try and limit bandwidth consumption like removing push internet from the device. But anyway it should work. My disclaimer is that policy changes constantly at T-Mobile so this may not always be so.
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Per policy it states that this type of 3g HSPCA device isnt allowed to tether and be used as a modem but the phone says otherwise. Also my theory on the last minute price jump on the tp2 is because tmobile can't stop it from being used as a modem on there smart phone data plans like they have with non rooted android devices. As an employee I researched this heavily before buying the TP2 and its one of the reasons why I went for the device. T-Mobile is so proud of their new 3g network but have made a lot of decisions to try and limit bandwidth consumption like removing push internet from the device. But anyway it should work. My disclaimer is that policy changes constantly at T-Mobile so this may not always be so.
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Lol. Yea, that's probably true. I wish if we could have the push internet, but we'll get that with custom ROM's! Take that T-Mobile!
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I am contemplating dumping my HTC Fuze and jumping ship from AT&T to T-Mobile just to get a Touch Pro 2, however I just got off the phone with T-Mo customer service and they informed me that you cannot tether the Touch Pro 2 to a laptop or use it as a modem.
Now I am sure the harware supports tethering and this is just something T-Mobile has decided to cripple, but how easy would it be to enable teathering? I hate the idea of paying $350 plus locking into a new contract and losing functionality from my Fuze!
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Tethering works. I have a Touch Pro 2 with the stock T-Mobile USA ROM. Despite what the T-Mobile representative says, the stock ROM contains the correct application to do this. Programs --> Internet Sharing.
Plug the Touch Pro 2 into your computer via USB and then hit "Connect". Bam, instant Internet tethering. Works well if you're in a bind.
T-Mobile does states exactly this:
"1. Permissible and Prohibited Uses
Your Data Plan is intended for Web browsing, messaging, and similar activities on your device and not on any other equipment. Unless explicitly permitted by your Data Plan, other uses, including for example, tethering your device to a personal computer or other hardware, are not permitted."
When I logged in to get details of my Data Plan, here is what I found:
"T-Mobile Total Internet
T-Mobile Total Internet includes unlimited Internet access on your phone, along with unlimited Internet access in T-Mobile HotSpot locations. Access your e-mail or browse the Web on your phone, or log on to wireless broadband access from a T-Mobile HotSpot in one of thousands of locations around the world using your Wi-Fi-enabled device."
I'm not inclined to poke this fire with T-Mobile as I have been a customer for a long time and have been nothing but happy with their customer service; and even before a put a cooked ROM on my last phone (wing) it had an internet connection sharing by default (bluetooth or USB only).
i tether on my 2.99 t-zone plan, they never said anything.
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i tether on my 2.99 t-zone plan, they never said anything.
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They won't ever say anything, lol, don't worry. Hell, I downloaded a 139 MB file to my TP2 a few days ago, it's not like they nock on my door, saying, are you the account holder of number ******???
Go ahead and tether all you want. If they do ask you, say you were downloading lots of music or something FROM YOUR PHONE. They can't prove anything.
PS, that's the $5.99 T-Zones, LOL. 2.99 would be incredible!
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Go ahead and tether all you want. If they do ask you, say you were downloading lots of music or something FROM YOUR PHONE. They can't prove anything.
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This is one blind statement if I ever heard one!
Tmobile IS your ISP. Tmobile KNOWS where you go and what you do.
Now, whether they will actually take the time to look through their logs and find out who's been going where, that's a different story.
But don't say they can't prove anything, because they can, and if they want to they will terminate your contract, and charge you the ETF on top.
FYI, I've been with Tmobile since they were VoiceStream. In fact I opened the account in Feb of 2001. Not to mention, at some point during my career I've actually managed the entire wireless account pool for a 150 people office, and most of them were on Tmobile. That should tell you something about my level of knowledge, as well as loyalty.
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PS, that's the $5.99 T-Zones, LOL. 2.99 would be incredible!
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Actually no, his is $2.99. At one point it WAS $2.99; however i have the $5.99 tzones and have used it to tether w/o any issue a few times
Hi, are there any other settings to configure internet sharing in win mobile, can't browse on my PC, but on my phone says it's connected
leemrvnt said:
Hi, are there any other settings to configure internet sharing in win mobile, can't browse on my PC, but on my phone says it's connected
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Start - Programs - Internet sharing.
LOL
The last post was too funny. Seriously though, T-Mobile has little in the way of "monitoring" what data is being sent to your phone. Its more of the amount thats an issue. T-Mobiles logic is that tethering will burn up bandwidth quicker which makes it more likely to hit the data cap and considering whats going on with ATT and the IPHONE bandwidth issue it makes sense. BUT if you monitor your bandwidth consumption and keep it under 10gb, I would say safer would be under 5gb a month then your not rocking the boat. And even when it hits the cap is throttles down to edge speeds anyway so I cant see an issue in this. Now if you live on tethering 24/7 then ya your gonna be pushing it. Customer care can see your data consumption in the system so just call um up and say hey I am worried I might be going over my data limit, lol they will be like blah i know how important blah blah it is to not go over. Then when they shut up they will say you used only 3gb this month so far so your doing fine blah blah blah. If T-Mobile had something in place to detect you tethering they wouldnt have made google remove the tether app from the market. Open source i guess means its open until you do something we think isnt right? I think its still bunk because what happens when someone hits the cap on there 3g phone. nada. And you would be surprised how under used T-Mobiles 3g network really is depending on the city. Theres some rumor that this was planned since the iphone may be going to other carriers soon. I will leave it at that.

att forced data plan

I plan on giving this phone to my dad and was wondering if att will detect it. I am running cm9 and will be blocking all data before giving it to him.
raytraceme said:
I plan on giving this phone to my dad and was wondering if att will detect it. I am running cm9 and will be blocking all data before giving it to him.
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Yes, they will detect it. If your dad is on a very old plan (maybe 3+ years since renewing the contract), he might be grandfathered in (meaning that he wouldn't be required to get a data plan for a smartphone, and they won't automatically assign one to him). This doesn't apply to most people though.
lol nope i have used his upgrades for myself. So i guess he is not grandfathered.
Might I ask what phone you are switching to?
either the one x or the galaxy s3. The nitro gets too hot, still has color banding issues, and the battery life is humbug.
raytraceme said:
either the one x or the galaxy s3. The nitro gets too hot, still has color banding issues, and the battery life is humbug.
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All those things will be addressed once a stable version of CM9 is out with an undervolting kernel, but suit yourself. ;p
why would you want to give your dad a phone that overheats, has graphics issues and ****ty battery life?
He bought himself a HTC vivid, so I don't have to worry about giving him one that sucks...
Because in just about every metric, the HTC vivid is worse (comming as a person who does not like non fridge related LG products, here).
Sent from my LG-P930 using Tapatalk 2
Edit, however, as long as no data used, normally, att will not bother you.
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why would you want to give your dad a phone that overheats, has graphics issues and ****ty battery life?
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^ so are you saying that I should warranty it?
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Edit, however, as long as no data used, normally, att will not bother you.
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Not true, if they detect a smartphone on the network at all, they will attempt to put you on a data plan. Sometimes it's not immediate but it WILL happen.
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Not true, if they detect a smartphone on the network at all, they will attempt to put you on a data plan. Sometimes it's not immediate but it WILL happen.
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Ah Thank you. I guess I got lucky with my TW GSII (or does AT&T only have IMEI of its own branded phones?).
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^ so are you saying that I should warranty it?
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well, i was attempting to make it funny.......................but yeah, i'd replace it 1st.
jeremyshaw said:
Ah Thank you. I guess I got lucky with my TW GSII (or does AT&T only have IMEI of its own branded phones?).
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Yeah, that might be the reason -- I don't have any idea which devices are in their list but it's very possible that T-Mobile phones will bypass the detection. The other possible reason is the one I mentioned earlier in this thread: if you are on a very old plan that didn't have the data requirement listed in the contract.
raytraceme said:
I plan on giving this phone to my dad
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Do you really hate your dad that much?
My mom had exact same situation when I gave her a HTC Inspire 4G, she went to another carrier simply because ATT would not allow her use a smart phone without data plan. Well, they tried to rip her off with $30 a month and at the end they simply lost a customer who payed $45 a month.
Good job ATT.
Someone is giving my wife an LG Nitro HD after she lost her Samsung Captivate. We currently have the $15/mo 200MB data plan, but when I was shopping for upgrades and looking at newer phones online it seemed like we had to switch to a newer, more expensive 4G data plan. If we get a new sim card from AT&T for my wife will it work in this phone? Will we be able to use it without changing her data plan?
no driver said:
Someone is giving my wife an LG Nitro HD after she lost her Samsung Captivate. We currently have the $15/mo 200MB data plan, but when I was shopping for upgrades and looking at newer phones online it seemed like we had to switch to a newer, more expensive 4G data plan. If we get a new sim card from AT&T for my wife will it work in this phone? Will we be able to use it without changing her data plan?
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I'd suggest calling up AT&T support or going into a local AT&T store to see if they can move your wife from the 200MB 3G data plan to the 200MB LTE data plan (same price - $15/mo). I think they will do it without any problem, but I'm not sure. It's worth a try at least.
I have taken a sim card out of a regular phone and put it into a smart phone and att never added a data plan to it. I had that for maybe a year. If you don't want to pay for data anymore take out your sim card and put it into an old phone and tell att that you sold the smartphone and are using the older phone now, then switch the sim card back without telling att, I've done that too. I can't say they won't force a data plan but this is just what i experienced
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airicd22 said:
I have taken a sim card out of a regular phone and put it into a smart phone and att never added a data plan to it. I had that for maybe a year. If you don't want to pay for data anymore take out your sim card and put it into an old phone and tell att that you sold the smartphone and are using the older phone now, then switch the sim card back without telling att, I've done that too. I can't say they won't force a data plan but this is just what i experienced
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It depends on how recently you've signed a contract with AT&T. If you've signed a contract since they implemented the requirement for data plans on all smartphones, then they will automatically switch you to a data plan if you use a smartphone. If you haven't, they won't.
This was with an iPhone 4 when it first came out. I sold it and then but an old razor and they took the data plan off per my request. And did the same thing with my wife's phone but she got an older smart phone but they never turned a data LAN on for it automatically.
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[Q] Hotspot Question

Hello,
Id like to know if I root my ATT S3 can i use an alternate hotspot app like wi-fi tether and avoid ATT's premium data charges?
zeno163420 said:
Hello,
Id like to know if I root my ATT S3 can i use an alternate hotspot app like wi-fi tether and avoid ATT's premium data charges?
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Typically you can "end-around" the restrictions on tethering and creating mobile hotspots, but carriers are getting increasingly savvy about detecting this (though there is not a great deal of intelligence about the exact methods used by each carrier) and ultimately shuffling customer into plans that include tethering. If you choose to go down this path, I would recommend using it sparingly, and prepare for the possibility of a plan change.
Thanks!
tobnddl said:
Typically you can "end-around" the restrictions on tethering and creating mobile hotspots, but carriers are getting increasingly savvy about detecting this (though there is not a great deal of intelligence about the exact methods used by each carrier) and ultimately shuffling customer into plans that include tethering. If you choose to go down this path, I would recommend using it sparingly, and prepare for the possibility of a plan change.
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Thank you! right now im already in a plan that includes hotspot but ATT charges an arm and a leg for this service! Im just looking for a work-around these charges and maybe bring my bill down but it may not be worth it if they can detect and change your plan automatically. Thanks again for the input!
zeno163420 said:
Thank you! right now im already in a plan that includes hotspot but ATT charges an arm and a leg for this service! Im just looking for a work-around these charges and maybe bring my bill down but it may not be worth it if they can detect and change your plan automatically. Thanks again for the input!
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They won't change it automatically, at first. They will send you a nice letter advising you are tethering and currently do not have a plan that supports it. I used it 1 day for an hour recently and got the letter. I have unlimited data and think they are specifically targeting these plans to get us off of them.
ed20910 said:
They won't change it automatically, at first. They will send you a nice letter advising you are tethering and currently do not have a plan that supports it. I used it 1 day for an hour recently and got the letter. I have unlimited data and think they are specifically targeting these plans to get us off of them.
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WoW, I guess its true they really ARE watching us ALL THE TIME...

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